How Billie Eilish & FINNEAS Created Oscar Winning Song 'What Was I Made For?' for 'Barbie'

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♪ Taking a drive ♪ - You barely hear it, it's so muffled. It's so in the background, but you feel it. I'm always trying to hide stuff. Hi, I'm Finneas, and I'm gonna take you behind the song, "What Was I Made For?" ♪ I don't know how to feel ♪ ♪ But I wanna try ♪ This happens occasionally where lyrics and melody and chords are all kind of happening at the same time. I sat down at the piano and we just started writing the whole song, minus, I think, the final verse that happens at the very end of the song was written about 30, 35 minutes. We recorded a little voice memo, just, like, sitting at the piano on my iPhone. Four or five days later, whenever we reconvened, recorded a vocal and a piano at the tempo that the final version is in. ♪ I don't know how to feel ♪ ♪ But I wanna try ♪ I think of creativity as, like, not a task, a recording of great vocal for three hours and comping all the takes together as a task, right? If we're sitting and creating something, I try not to be rigid at all. And then when she's recording vocals, she's very rigid of her own sort of volition. We try to make it very safe. I think that if you feel judged, and I'm sure Billie and I both fail at this occasionally, but I think if you feel judged, you'll be so much less creatively open. That's been a huge part of our process. And Billie and I laugh at it all the time. We'll listen to an old song or a new song, and we'll shake our heads and giggle at something that might be silly or something that might be a little contrived. But again, it's just because of the feeling of safety. (soft piano music) I record everything on Logic Pro. This song is real piano. There's a piano in the studio that sounds great. Any other instrument, sometimes the actual acoustic one is the wrong flavor for the thing. But Petrof piano has a felt pedal. It is sort of typically called, like, the practice pedal, but it has this incredible muffled feel. You engage the felt, and the hammers hit the felt instead of just hitting the string directly. (soft piano music) So that's the piano on its own. What I have selected is piano and stereo, and then room and stereo. The room is much like, sort of, more in the background of the whole recording and then the actual mic's that are right next to the hammers are what you're really hearing. So we just started piano, vocal. This was sort of the first base of everything (soft piano music) ♪ I used to float, now I just fall down ♪ ♪ I used to know, but I'm not sure now ♪ The fantasy is that the song is so great, and the vocal is so compelling that you could put out a song with no production and no layers, and that it would be, you know, just as well received. That's like your creative Nirvana fantasy of like just pure minimalism. And there are historic, amazing examples of that. Especially like, you go back in time to more primitive recordings. We don't have the limitations of that time, so we're trying to make the thing that is the most fun for us to listen to. And Billie is like a harmony God. We just set about adding doubles. ♪ What I was made for ♪ Those are left and right hard panned to create a wider image. ♪ What was I made for? ♪ Some harmonies come in. ♪ Made for ♪ ♪ What was I made for? ♪ We kept 'em really quiet. The whole thing to me, is like invisibly supporting the lead vocal. ♪ 'Cause I, I don't know how to feel ♪ No harmony there, just lead in doubles. ♪ But I wanna try ♪ Some harmony here. ♪ I don't know how to feel ♪ ♪ But someday I might ♪ At that point, where after the first chorus, this is probably the point in the song where we're not introducing new songwriting components anymore. This is this crazy toy. We ran 'em through a plug-in called SketchCassette, and they're like, (garbled music) they sound like a little toy kind of breaking. (garbled music) They're kind of following the vocal melodies, which is cool. (garbled music) They have such a kind of a, they sound a little crazy like this, but it's so melancholy to me, which I, I love. A bunch of mellotron comes in. Mellotrons have just, like, the prettiest onboard stuff, it's really crazy. (bright dinging music) It sounds so vintage and warm. Little vibraphone, fake cello, fake strings. This is a contact plug-in. (soft orchestral music) I think that it's all kind of about, like, the sort of physics of it. Once the production became lusher, there was room for the vocals to become lusher. And after we started adding more instrumentation, went back to the first half of the song, added some electric bass guitar just to support the kind of chordal structure of it. And we started automating in a bunch of ad-libs, and did a bunch of automating of delay and reverb. We did these kind of throws where they swell in. ♪ Try ♪ They just kind of pop out under certain words, and then all these beautiful ad-libs too. ♪ Looked so alive, turns out I'm not real ♪ Which are buried way in the background, but they just add a little more life. ♪ Oh I, I don't know how to feel ♪ ♪ But I wanna try ♪ You got these kind of things supporting the melody and also getting outta the way, and it's just sort of feels like a choir of people singing, even though it's all Billie's voice. Mark Ronson sent about four tracks. (soft piano music) It's so delicate, so soft. Like an orchestra stem, some harp. Beautiful, love it. And then keeping, like, pretty much kept it all out until nothing planned, and then verse two. Just to start bringing stuff in. (soft cello music) Some old, like cello comes in first, which is great. (soft orchestral music) Matt Dunkley did the string arrangement for this and the James Bond song. There's some really subtle percussion that just happens on impact notes. ♪ Taking a drive ♪ You barely hear it, it's so muffled. It's so in the background, but you feel it. I'm always trying to hide stuff. I'm trying to hide stuff because I'm a terrible visual artist. But, like, when you see a great painting and it's 190 different shades, and it doesn't look like 190 shades, it looks like a sunset. And that, to me, is the approach with all music productions. Like, if you're thinking about it, I have failed. But if you're just absorbing it, then it's a success. (soft organ music) This is a organ run through an Arpeggiator plug-in. So I'm playing all of the notes and it's just cycling through them. (bright arpeggio music) ♪ I, I don't know how to feel, but I wanna try ♪ ♪ I don't know how to feel, but someday I might ♪ I don't think about what people are gonna take away from music, I just think about what I do. If I am in a car or listening to headphones, or just in my house listening to a speaker, and I hear a song, and I resonate with it on some, like, subatomic level of like, "Oh man, I feel this song in my chest." Whether it's just a beautiful melody or it's a profound lyric. I'm trying to recreate that feeling that I get listening to great music in what I make. I know that when we made this song, Billie played it ad nauseum, it was like a therapy session for her. She felt like she had totally expressed what she needed to say. If fans take away that, that would be like the biggest victory. But to me, it's like if the audience took some profundity away from something and I felt nothing, I'd rather the opposite be true. I'd rather make music that I love. Seeing the response was incredibly gratifying. It was awesome. (crowd screaming) I think the goal was that it was, it was reflective of the experience of this character, but there's also this much broader reflection of just like, who am I? And especially with Billie as a artist and as a young person who's already been in the public eye for a long time, no one, I think, probably feels more figured out by the rest of the world than anyone in the public eye. People are like very quick to be like, "I know who that person is, I think these things about them and I think they're this way." You know with your friendships and your relationships with anyone in life, that you're subject to change. And the you of today is different than the you of six months ago, and the whole joy of life is changing, so. (soft piano music)
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Channel: Variety
Views: 781,721
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Keywords: Variety, Variety Studio, FINNEAS, finneas, billie eilish, behind the song, logic pro, finneas and billie eilish, barbie, barbie movie, mark ronson, billie and finneas, finneas eilish, finneas producing, barbie song, what was i made for, what was i made for billie eilish, what was i made for billie eilish lyrics, finneas interview
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Length: 10min 18sec (618 seconds)
Published: Fri Oct 13 2023
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