Horizon Forbidden West | 40 GPUs Tested [1080p, 1440p, 4K | Medium, High, Very High + Upscaling]

Horizon zero Dawn was an extremely successful game and something we used quite frequently in our benchmarking Suite so when the news of the successor Horizon forbidden West was coming to PC at long last after being a PlayStation exclusive I thought it was only fair to see what performance was like on 40 different gpus at three resolutions three quality presets and some upscaling kind of thrown in for good measure too but before we get into that here's a quick word from this video sponsor oh mate you're all right yeah just got all the bits from my banging new gaming PC just got to put it together it's gon to be so much better than yours oh right what did you get then the latest Intel 12g processor a feature patched motherboard and 32 gig of ddr4 memory see miles ahead of yours you you realize that board needs ddr5 memory don't you don't tell me you went and bought the wrong stuff ddr4 is so 2014 I can't believe you was stupid what no you're joking what should I get then for me I'd be 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on the Desma game engine which is made by Gorilla Games while it's not let's say the most famous game engine out there it was used in Horizon zero Dawn and death stranding both of which have proven to be massively popular titles while PlayStation Gamers will be more than familiar with the game it was only actually recently that we saw it being imported over to PC by nyx's software who are a Dutch based developer who are known for pting the likes of Ratchet and Clank and the latest Spider-Man titles too so Spider-Man remastered and then Miles Morales and overall they've done a pretty good job and that shows in Forbidden West with' I guess the only real issue that I found coming by the way of screen tearing but nothing that kind of can't be fixed without fiddling with various settings in the game now talking about the settings much like Ratchet and Clank and the Spider-Man games you do have a splash screen when you first load the game which takes you to your settings directly so you can tweak things before you actually get into the game it's here where you get access access to the resolution enabling or disabling upscaling Dynamic resolution scaling which did decide to enable itself halfway through my testing and of course the quality presets which can be set individually or you can manually change settings one by one including motion blur ambient occlusion and general quality changes in terms of upscaling the game does have pretty extensive support supporting dlss FSR 2.2 and Intel Zess along with frame generation for NVIDIA based cards and that's something we'll look at a little later on you get the typical upscaling quality presets ranging from Ultra performance to Quality on dlss and FSR while zest has the options of performance through to ultra quality though for our test we settled on the balance mode to give the best offset of quality without sacrificing performance in terms of quality presets you have the option of very low low medium high and very high and this just increases the individual quality of each element including textures Shadows depth fulfilled hair screen space Reflections water quality and Cloud quality along with enabling or disabling various settings to make the overall game just look prettier and don't get me wrong the game is stunning to look at in every aspect in terms of the visuals very low and low do take well quite a beating but obviously will help for those Clinging On to older Hardware who want to play the latest titles and while the gameplay will be fluid the visuals are going to suffer quite dramatically thankfully the medium preset does make I guess up for quite a large difference mainly in textures that before looked somewhat flat and without depth or shading As you move up to high or very high that's where the stunning visuals really come into play with improved Shadows Reflections and just more depth to the textures of individual elements like the ground leaves trees and water for those wanting to experience the very best visuals without having the horsepower upscaling can get you at least partway there though as expected at lower resolutions we do start to introduce the typical upscale issues of grain blurring and just overall latency issues though some upscaling tech is clearly better than others in terms of that also as I mentioned if you are using a 40 series GPU then this game does support frame generation from nvidia's upscaling arsenal of Technologies and while FSR 3 isn't supported at this time nixes have mentioned it so it should be coming along in the future but it's a shame how new titles keep coming out and are lacking on the AMD side so the reason you're all here numbers figures and to see how gpus do at various resolutions and settings and to forewarn you we have a lot of data that took us just short of a week to compile with by my calculations over 360 individual runs and that's without revalidating and retesting when we were presented with outliers so it's definitely a lot of work as a side note if you do appreciate the huge amount of work that went into this and want to help support us then you can over on patreon where you'll not only support what we do here but also get access to the charts in their entirety along with a ton of other really cool benefits including exclusive behind the scenes content biweekly game nights patreon only live streams and much more more the link is as always down below now for our testing we use the GPU test system with an AMD ryzen 7 7800 x3d and 32 gig of Corsair Vengeance RGB 6,000 MHz cl30 ddr5 memory for the motherboard we used the gigabyte b650 or a Master with the latest BIOS version installed along with Windows 11 on its latest update driver wise we used amd's 24.31 driver and for NVIDIA we used the 55 1.86 driver we tested 40 gpus in total including all cards from the last two generations from AMD and Nvidia along with a couple of older ones to see how they'd hold up so with that out of way let's get in to those glorious benchmarks so starting things off with 1080 medium because upon testing it does still seem that some good performance can be had even on older Hardware so why limit yourself to low or even very low settings if you don't have to it's here where AMD take the top of our chart likely down to the driver overhead issues that come from Nvidia that aside we're good for over 200 FPS on both the 7 900 series gpus along with the RTX 490 while lower end cards still manag to hit some pretty respectable numbers the latest 7900 gree from AMD manages to push out 4% more performance when compared to the RTX 480 super but again at such a low resolution this is likely due to driver overhead where Nvidia suffers quite badly at times moving down further we have the likes of the 6800 XT at 166 FPS which essentially matches the performance of the 47 TTI and TI super but does have slightly better 1% low figures even older cards like the 28 ETI from yesterday year are still good for 123 FPS which puts it ahead at the 46ti by 16% and a slightly larger margin of 19% when compared to the RTX 460 non moving even further down we do find all but one GPU tested manages to hit 60 FPS though the RTX 3050 really is on that limit and the poultry 4 gig 6500 XT SE our worst result yet where it just basically Falls over at 26 frames per second due to the lack of capacity in terms of vram as we move up to 1440p we can start to see that top spot under some contention with the 490 now sitting ahead of the 7900 XT and only 5% behind the 7900 XTX though this should all change as we move up to 4K nvidia's 480 super is now pushed ahead of the 17900 G by 6% now coming in at 147 frames per second along with just over half of the cards tested still giving us performance in excess of 100 FPS older 30 series and 6000 series gpus do start to slip ever so slightly but the likes of the 2080 super is still good for 76 FPS now matching the performance of the newer and current generation 460 TI as well as the 5700 XT from AMD still managing to push out 66 frames per second there are some cards that now don't make the cut like the 6600 at 55 FPS the RTX 3050 at 43 FPS and the 6500 XT has just slipped even further and is now essentially unplayable also the 3060 while it did pack 60 frames per second 4K or higher quality probably won't be as kind to it at 4K where the gpus are working their hardest we now see the 490 taking its top spot at 109 FPS which puts it just 3% ahead of the 7900 XTX while the 7900 XT still comes in strong and pushes out 6% more frames than the 480 Super Cards like the 6950 XT still managed to get a respectable 82 frames per second essentially matching the performance of the 3090 TI while plenty of other cards are still good for 60 FPS or higher including the RTX 38 to 10 gig and 6800 XT at 66 and 67 FPS respectively it's crazy to see that even on medium newer cards like the RTX 4070 fall just short of the mark and the 460 TI only comes in at 42 FPS and now matches the performance of the much older 2080 super likely due to the gig vram buffer where it shows newer titles like this just make the cards suffer while lower frame rates like we see on the RX 7600 and 5700 XT coming with a 1 FPS difference it is still playable to a degree but you can start to notice overall gameplay just doesn't feel as fluid and you'd expect better performance on newer Hardware like the RTX 4060 with its only saving grace coming by way of upscaling potentially beyond that we now see more cards Dro below 30 FPS including the 6600 and RTX 3050 and that 6500 XT which has consistently been the worst card we've tested now sitting at sub 10 FPS on this preset cycling back round to 1080p but this time on the high preset the 7900 XTX again comes in at the top of the chart with 5% more performance than the RTX 490 the 7900 XT still manages to best the 480 super by a 6% margin and the 6950 XT is still well up there in terms of performance just 3 FPS behind the RTX 48 we still have almost half of the cards exceeding 100 frames per second with the most noticeable being the 7800 XT which shows its fantastic value based on the performance that we see as it falls just behind the 4070 super and packs 7% more performance than the RTX 38 10 gig a card that was significantly more expensive when it launched all but four cards now present more than 60 FPS with the RX 6600 just falling short though it's unlikely you'd ever notice during gameplay whereas the more noticeable performance drops are on the RTX 3050 at 41 frames per second that could see it dip lower in the more intensive areas of the game as we move up to 1440p the 490 takes the top spot though we're talking a margin of error 1 frame per second difference over the 7900 XTX AMD still comes in the better of the older gpus with the 6900 XT falling 2 FPS behind the newer 47 TTI super which isn't great for NVIDIA in the grand scheme of things the 6800 XT is also displaying very strong performance as it sits in the same realm as the 7800 XT showing that the uplifting performance generation to generation doesn't really account for much in this title at this level of performance older gpus like the 28 UTI still give some solid numbers at 67 FPS which puts it a pretty Stark 16% ahead of the newer RTX 460 TI which only just manages to creep past the lower-end RTX 2080 super beyond that a lot of gpus are now sitting sub 60 FPS while the 3050 still manages to cling on at 31 FPS though again more intensive parts of the game could result in a subpar experience overall 4k on high is where we see some of the biggest drops in performance with no gpus coming in above 100 FPS in fact we now see the 490 taking the top spot at just 91 followed closely by the 7900 XTX which sits just over 5% behind in terms of surpassing 60 FPS we now have only 11 gpus ranging from older but still high-end 30 series cards like the 3080 TI and 3090 still managing to just scrape by to the 6950 XT which now pushes just ahead of the RTX 4070 TI super below 60 FPS which is still playable we find newer cards like the 7800 XT at 56 frames per second followed behind by the RTX 4070 super at 55 FPS the 20180 super still does reasonably well at 33 FPS which puts it 10% ahead of nvidia's 460 and 460 TI which both come in identically at 30 frames per second which is isn't great considering the much older 5700 XT only comes in 7% slower further down we now have a smattering of 6,000 series cards around 20 FPS and now in the frankly unplayable Realms of performance with the 6500 XT now feeling somewhat like a slideshow presentation it comes in at just 6 FPS as we move to 1080p on the very high preset I will say that performance and overall visuals didn't actually change much looking at the 7900 XTX for instance which tops our we only saw performance drop by 1 FPS going from high to very high other cards like the 490 actually saw performance increase with it having the ability to stretch its legs just that little bit more and this really comes down to game optimization in drivers which as we've seen before in games does get better over time so game patches and Driver improvements should see bigger differences in the future that aside we do still see a lot of cards surpassing 100 FPS including some older more mid-range cards like the 6800 XT 114 frame per second which means that it only sits 4% behind the RTX 470 TI below 100 FPS we have the likes of the 6800 at 94 followed closely by the 7700 XT then the 2080ti still holds up well matching the performance of the 6750 XT and 370 TI at around 87 frames per second and the majority of the cards including the Relic 5700 XT still manag to hit a minimum of 60 frames per second while the 6600 and RTX 3060 it four to 5 frames below at 1440p the top spot is still under contention between the RTX 490 and 7900 XTX with just a 3 FPS margin between them again the older 6000 series cards still show that they are more than up for the task like the 6950 XT at 106 FPS and the slower 6900 XT at just under 100 frames per second only being beaten in terms of newer cards by the 47 TTI super by just 3 FPS we do still have the majority of the cards test at above 60 frames per second ranging from the 6700 XT and 28ti upwards so there's still some life left in them yet while some cards fall just below that including the RTX 460 TI at 57 and the RTX 460 Noni at 50 frames per second at 1440p on very high there's only two cards that actually sit at 30 FPS or lower being the RTX 3050 and of course the lowly 6500 XT which is now really struggling due to its lack of vram lastly at 4k on very high the 490 retains its top spot at 90 frames per second with the 7900 XT now sitting 8% slower it then starts to drop in a sizable manner with the 480 super and 7900 XT evenly matched in performance and the lowest performance 60 plus FPS card is the 7900 G which further cements its value for money proposition below 60 however we do see quite a few older cards but also some 7,000 series AMD cards like the 7800 XT at 54 frames per second and 4070 super at 53 FPS again upscaling even on Modest settings we'll see this potentially bounc back up past 60 frames per second but now we have 14 cards coming in with performance of 30 FPS or lower and sadly this includes the 460 TI which matches the performance of the 5700 XT and the RTX 460 which matches the performance of the 362 gig so not great for nvidia's latest 4060 series cards now I mentioned at the start about upscaling and I want to warn you now that well it's a hot mess no matter if you're using AMD or Nvidia there are some clear issues with performance when it comes to upscaling and it being kind of even worse than native as well as frame generation doing the exact same thing but not on every card after scaring the internet and looking at Reddit as well as the Horizon Discord server other people are getting the same anomalies so in all honesty for these next charts I would take them with the biggest handful of salt that you can find and until they're fixed I'd personally advise against using upscaling unless you're one of the lucky ones who has a card that does see a performance uplift so we also found that there was potentially an issue with Windows 11 and Windows 10 was absolutely fine what we also noticed was CPU usage between using the game natively and using frame gen and dlss upscaling set to balanc and it was very clear that when frame generation is on the CPU usage is somewhat higher and that's clear to see when we look at the game side by side at Native the CPU usage is much more consistent compared to when frame generation is turned on where CPU usage ends up going much higher and also fluctuates quite a bit more too either way let's look at the charts starting with 1080P and for the most part there are some cards that give some uplifts like the 6600 XT which sees a 5% uplift in performance with FSR enabled this is nice to see but nothing of the gains we'd expect to see based on other games the 6800 XT sees better gains of just over 20% and this is further proof that some cards are just nerfed in terms of upscaling the RX 7600 is another one that frankly sees a margin of error difference and shows that upscaling just isn't working right when compared to what we see on other cards like the 17900 XTX which also sees a 14% increase in frames but it's still nothing similar to what we've seen in other titles moving on to Nvidia and it's a bit of a mixed bag the 36 DTI sees upwards of 31% increases with the better uplift coming by way of D LSS and not FSR and the same with the 38 ETI though the increase in performance is smaller at 24% but definitely much more like it then we move on to the weirdest result the RTX 4060 which originally came in at 69 FPS which is pretty decent but turning up scaling on in both FSR and dlss mode actually saw performance drop by 9% and then the even stranger thing is enabling frame generation which saw it drop another 13% meaning that the worst result being frame gen was now 20 % lower than native so something is definitely wrong retesting garnered the same results and speaking to the community other people were seeing similar issues the RTX 480 super is a card that seems to run fine with upscaling as we saw between an 18 to 21% gain when enabling FSR or dlss and then frame gen increased that margin by another 10% which puts it 32% faster than the native result so again this card seems fine weird 1440p wasn't much different we do see a larg gain on the 6600 XT but we are talking lower numbers overall so percentages can seem inflated somewhat with a 22% uplift then the 6800 XT was still holding strong with a 30% increase in performance when enabling FSR and the RX 7600 seemed to have settled somewhat but we're only talking 14% more performance overall so still not great the 7900 XTX saw the biggest gain from AMD with 24% more performance between native and FSR and this seems to be one of the good ones that saw gains are all resolutions the 36 DTI saw even larger gains of 44% when going from native to dlss balanced with FSR just a little bit below which is I guess expected as dlss generally gives us larger gains anyway the 380 TI came in with an uplift of 31% when enabling upscaling with FSR and dlss separated by just a single frame but the 1% low was Stronger on dlss than it was on FSR so I guess you could chalk that up as a win for NVIDIA as we move back to the 4060 upscaling actually sees an increase this time with 8% more frames when using FSR and 10% when using dlss so all seems to be fixed until we enable frame gen where performance tanks and actually now drops 18% below the native result which again is frankly very weird and something that definitely needs addressing from the developer in conjunction with Nvidia then with the 480 super which has been consistent in terms of uplifts performance between native and upscaled sees an increase of up to 28% with dlss just edging ahead in the battle of the upscaler while frame generation sees things move up again by 133% which now puts it 45% faster than its native performance result so again things are looking really right on certain cards but also really wrong on others then lastly at 4K things really start to fall apart with a hope that the lower end cards could see some huge gains that just doesn't happen with the 6600 XT and 7600 actually dropping frames and well it becomes absolutely awful to Game On which I will show you shortly the 6800 XT still sees a 46% uplift in frames and that now puts it well above 60 FPS and the 7900 XTX while the gain is smaller it's still impressive at 37% the 36d ti which was scraping past 30 FPS saw no uplift with FSR enabled so again some big issues there but dlss saw an increase in performance of 36% amounting to 11 frames per second and that just leaves me with even more questions then moving on the 38 TI saw gains on both FSR and dlss of between 43 to 47% again in favor of dlss so some impressive stuff there which again pushes things well past that 60 FPS number that it was just falling behind at when on Native and then again the 4060 gets the award for the weirdest results with FSR giving us a 133% uplift in performance while dlss improves on that and puts it 29% ahead of its netive result though again low numbers so inflated percentages but then it gets weird again frame gen shows that it's just not working you know at least how it should be as while we do see an uplift of 21% it should actually be 30% or even higher and it falls below dlss with no frame gen turned on so yeah some really really strange results then lastly the 480 super which wins the consistency award goes from 72 fps to 99 with FSR which is a 38% uplifting performance and from 72 to 102 FPS with dlss enabled which is a 42% uplift frame gen increases at margin by 177% which now means that we've managed to improve our performance over native by whopping 65% it's just a shame that not all cards saw similar gains so I went into this video with some high expectations and as it's gone on there's some very clear and very big issues so big in fact that we threw the 6600 XT back on to show just how bad the performance is at 14 FPS average and it's just awful but it does get worse if we put FSR to ultra performance it looks reminiscent of an old arcade game with blurry and unsharpened textures almost as if it's like looking at the game with Vaseline smeared over your eyes that aside the performance was interesting it certainly scales to a point when looking at the difference between medium and high but as you move up to very high things just well go out the window the quality difference is minimal and the performance difference is in line at places with margin of error so there's definitely some big optimizations that could be done in terms of upscaling It's A Hard One to comment on as some cards did see some healthy uplifts and for the most part that seemed to be the case on higher end gpus like the 6800 XT 7900 XTX and 480 super While others did see an uplift they were just somewhat smaller or just all over the place and that seemed to be the case in terms of the lower end like the 6600 XT RX 7600 at the higher resolutions and the 4060 just is in general what is clear to see is that vram has a part to play in all of this and your older 4 gig cards even without upscaling are going to struggle a lot and even 8 gig I feel is on the kind of cusp as in the area we were in we were actually using more than 5 gig of vram and I'm sure there are more intensive areas that could see that dramatically increase all in all I think there's still a lot of work to be done and while I was doing my kind of main 40 GPU huge amounts of testing I didn't really see major issues other than screen te in but it was when I started to delve a little deeper and look at upscaling that things just well didn't add up and that was further confirmed when we retested and spoke to the community to see if they were seeing similar issues so at least we know it's not just us while I wouldn't straight out say don't buy this game I think there's definitely room for reservations and depending on the GPU you have you may not get the performance that you'd you know be expecting hey maybe AMD knew there were issues and that's why FSR fre with generation hasn't been added but in all honesty that's likely just a coincidence and timing and I guess that's potentially turned into their good fortune that Gamers can't hate on them and while I'm not blaming Nvidia there is definitely definitely work to be done between nix's mainly and with help from Nvidia I'd like to think things will drastically improve in upcoming patches but all things aside those updates need to come thick and fast or those glowing reviews at the moment on Steam could turn very very shortly for now that's going to wrap this one up I wish it was a better conclusion but as always we can only display the data that we're given and even after retesting revalidating and checking with others it seems that they are what they are and until it's fixed yeah I'm going to leave it at that hopefully you enjoyed this video if you did a like and a sub to the channel would be amazing and if you love what we do and appreciate the huge Monumental effort that went into all of this testing like I say 40G gpus three resolution three quality presets and upscaling 360 plus tests then you can help support us over on patreon you'll get access to all of our charts exclusive behind the scenes content a super special area on the official EIC Discord by-weekly game nights and much much more the link is as always down below thanks for tuning in I'll see you in the next one see L guys bye-bye

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Length: 27min 20sec (1640 seconds)

Published: Tue Mar 26 2024