'He's In Deep Trouble': Giuliani Goes On Tirade Against Feds After Raid

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STARTS RIGHT NOW. >> HI, NICOLE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE HAVE A BIG SHOW FOR YOU RIGHT NOW, INCLUDING ABSOLUTELY BOMBSHELL NEW ALLEGATIONS. THE CONFESSION OF SEX CRIMES IN WRITING FROM AN ASSOCIATE KNOWN FOR HIS LINKS TO MATT GAETZ. IT IS A BIG STORY, AND WE HAVE THAT AS WELL AS MR. GAETZS DENIAL COMING UP. >>> ALSO, PRESIDENT BIDENS 100th DAY IN OFFICE IS TODAY. WE LOOK AT WHERE HES HEADED. >>> RIGHT NOW THE DEVELOPING NEWS OF THE INVESTIGATION INTO RUDY GIULIANI. HIS PHONES AND COMPUTERS WERE SEIZED AND HES NOW SPEAKING OUT. GIULIANI IS BREAKING HIS SILENCE, AND THIS IS FASCINATING. HE IS, OF COURSE, THE FORMER PROSECUTOR FACING A RAID BY THE OFFICE HE USED TO RUN. HE IS THE LAWYER TO THE FORMER PRESIDENT, ALTHOUGH THEY HAVE HAD A FALLING OUT. HE LOOKS LIKE A SUBJECT OF THIS PROBE. HE IS SPEAKING OUT FOR THE FIRST TIME IN DEPTH WITH DETAILS ABOUT THAT RAID, AND HE DENIES ANY WRONGDOING. >> I HAVE NEVER REPRESENTED A UKRAINIAN NATIONAL OR OFFICIAL BEFORE THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT. MY SOLE CONCENTRATION FROM THE BEGINNING HERE, TUCKER, WAS TO FIND EVIDENCE THAT WOULD PROVE WHAT I KNEW, THAT HE WAS INNOCENT OF RUSSIAN COLLUSION. HE DID EXACTLY WHAT A PRESIDENT SHOULD DO WITH THE PRESIDENT OF UKRAINE. HE ASKED HIM TO INVESTIGATE. >> RIGHT. >> A VICE PRESIDENT. THEY INVADED, WITHOUT TELLING ME, MY iCLOUD. THEY TOOK DOCUMENTS THAT ARE PRIVILEGED. THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT SPIED ON ME. >> NOW, SOME OF THAT IS GIULIANIS REBUTTAL AND DEFENSE. SOME OF IT IS TRUE. INDEED, WE ARE LEARNING THAT THE FEDS DID GO INTO THE iCLOUD TO BASICALLY TAKE OR SURVEIL INFORMATION FROM RUDY GIULIANI. ALL OF THIS, THOUGH, ACCORDING TO PUBLIC INFORMATION IS LAWFUL NOT ILLEGAL OR COVERT SPYING. REFERRING TO HOW FEDERAL INVESTIGATORS TOOK BASICALLY SEVEN OR EIGHT OF HIS ELECTRONIC DEVICES. HE CLAIMS HE MADE AN OFFER TO THEM. HE CLAIMS HE HAD HUNTER BIDENS HARD DRIVES IN ONES APARTMENT AS HE OFFERED THAT TO FEDS. THERE ISNT ANY OUTSIDE VERIFICATION OF THIS. THIS IS A STORY THATS NEWSWORTHY, BUT WERE NOT HERE REPORTING ON OUR ABILITY TO VERIFY WHATS IN HIS APARTMENT. HERE YOU GO. >> AT THE END OF THE SEARCH, WHEN THEY HAD TAKEN ABOUT, ID SAY, SEVEN OR EIGHT ELECTRONIC ITEMS OF MINE, WHICH IS WHAT THEY TOOK, AND TWO OF SOMEONE ELSES, THEY WERENT TAKING THE THREE HARD DRIVES WHICH OF COURSE ARE ELECTRONIC DEVICES. THEY JUST MIMIC THE COMPUTER. I SAID, DONT YOU WANT THESE? AND THEY SAID, WHAT ARE THEY? I SAID THOSE ARE HUNTER BIDENS HARD DRIVES. AND THEY SAID, NO, NO, NO, NO. NO. >> NOW, IN COURT THIS WOULD BE CALLED HEARSAY, BUT IT IS CERTAINLY INTERESTING AND NEWSWORTHY. THIS IS WHAT HE SAYS THE FEDS SAID IN RESPONSE TO HIS HUNTER BIDEN OFFER. NOW, WE WILL LEARN A LOT MORE ABOUT THIS IF THIS PROCESS GOES FORWARD. WELL GET THE FEDS SIDE OF THE STORY. THATS GIULIANIS SIDE. WE DO KNOW A JUDGE APPROVED THIS RAID BASED ON THE EVIDENCE THAT GIULIANI IS SEARCHABLE, THAT THERE WAS REASONABLE SUSPICION THAT HE HAS THE EVIDENCE OF A CRIME IN THOSE LOCATIONS. THE SCOPE OF WHAT THEY CAN SEE IS GOING TO BE QUITE TARGETED. AS FOR GIULIANIS BRAZEN ATTITUDE ABOUT HIS DEALINGS IN UKRAINE, HE WAS BRIEFED ALL THE WAY BACK BY THE FBI. ITS THE SAME ARM OF THE GOVERNMENT THAT WOULD DEAL WITH RAIDS, BUT NOT THE SAME PEOPLE. AND THE FBI TRIED TO WARN HIM IN 2019 THAT HE WAS BEING TARGETED SPECIFICALLY BY RUSSIAN INTELLIGENCE OPERATION. THIS WAS GOING ON IN THE CONTEXT OF HIM TRYING TO GATHER SOME SORT OF DIRT ON THE BIDEN FAMILY FOR A PLOT THAT ULTIMATELY GOT DONALD TRUMP IMPEACHED. "THE WASHINGTON POST" REPORTING THAT INFAMOUS TRIP TO UKRAINE IN DECEMBER THAT YEAR OCCURRED AFTER THIS BRIEFING WHERE THEY WERE SAYING, HEY, BE CAREFUL. THESE EFFORTS, THIS RUSSIAN-BACKED EFFORTS TRYING TO MAKE YOU, RUDY GIULIANI, A STOOGE. ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL THAT RAN THIS FAMED AND INDEPENDENT OFFICE, THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK, SAYS BASED ON THE EVIDENCE GIULIANI IS IN DEEP TROUBLE. I MENTIONED THAT OFFICE, AND WE HAVE A SPECIAL EXPERT WITH EXPERIENCE THERE TONIGHT. A FORMER SDNY PROSECUTOR. AND NICK IS A FORMER WATERGATE SPECIAL PROSECUTEOR AND BACK IN THE DAY SERVED IN THE SDNY AS WELL AND OVERLAPPED AN WORKED WITH GIULIANI. GOOD TO SEE YOU BOTH. >> HEY, ARI. >> HELLO. >> NICK, DO YOU BELIEVE THAT THIS RAID MEANS THERE IS BAD NEWS FOR RUDY GIULIANI AND HES AT RISK FOR INDICTMENT. >> YEAH. I THINK IT DOES MEAN BAD NEWS. IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO GET A JUDGE TO APPROVE A SEARCH WARRANT ON A LAWYER. NEVER MIND A WELL-KNOWN LAWYER LIKE RUDY GIULIANI, WHO IS THE FORMER MAYOR OF THE CITY OF NEW YORK, WAS THE LAWYER TO PRESIDENT TRUMP. THE GOVERNMENT HAS TO GO IN AND PROVIDE VERY SPECIFIC FACTS JUSTIFYING THAT A CRIME WAS COMMITTED. AND UNDER THESE CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE IT IS SUCH A HIGH LEVEL OF PERSON, YOU WOULD EXPECT THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE WOULDNT GO IN THERE BUT WITH THE MOST REFINED AND DETAILED FACTS OF CRIMINAL ACTIVITY. AND ONCE YOU DO THAT, YOU HAVE TO ASK, WELL, WHAT KIND OF EVIDENCE IS IT? ITS PROBABLY PRETTY DECENT EVIDENCE CONSIDERING THAT THEYRE GOING IN FOR THE SEARCH WARRANT ON THIS INDIVIDUAL. AND THEN YOU GOT TO ASK, WELL, HOW CLOSE ARE THEY TO ACTUALLY BEING ABLE TO INDICT AND CONVICT BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT? >> WHAT DID YOU THINK OF WHAT WE HEARD HERE FROM MR. GIULIANI WHO FAMOUSLY KNOWS HIS WAY AROUND THIS OFFICE AND REFERRED TO THAT IN THE INTERVIEW, HIS ATTEMPT BOTH TO MINIMIZE THE SCOPE OF THE SEARCH AND THEN ALSO TELL THAT STORY ABOUT WHAT HE SAYS HE OFFERED THEM? >> SURE. WELL, ITS A LITTLE HARD TO DECIPHER BECAUSE ITS GIBBER ERE MY FIRST YEAR OF PROCEDURE LAW STUDENTS HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF CRIMINAL LAW THAN THE FORMER U.S. ATTORNEY. THIS WAS NOT AN ILLEGAL OR UNCONSTITUTIONAL SEARCH AS HE ALSO SAID IN HIS FOX INTERVIEW LAST NIGHT. THE FACT THAT THE FEDS HAD ACCESS TO HIS -- THIS SORT OF iCLOUD, YOU KNOW, POINTING SKYWARD IS NOT UNUSUAL AND IS EXACTLY THE PROCEDURE THEY SHOULD HAVE FOLLOWED. AND THIS WAS, YOU KNOW, BY THE BOOKS. AND, SO, YOU KNOW, I DONT -- ITS NOT A DEFENSE AND HE WAS, AS YOU POINTED OUT, THE U.S. ATTORNEY WHO WAS CHARGED WITH OVERSEEING NO DOUBT HUNDREDS OF SEARCH WARRANTS UNDER HIS WATCH. SO HE KNOWS OR SHOULD KNOW HOW IT WORKS. AND HIS OFFER TO PROVIDE THIS TUCKER -- THIS HUNTER BIDEN -- IM SORRY. HE ALSO CONFUSED TUCKER CARLSON ABOUT HUNTER BIDEN IN HIS INTERVIEW. BUT HIS OFFER TO PROVIDE THAT HARD DRIVE, FIRST OF ALL, AS YOU SEE, ON HIS OWN ACCOUNT, BUT IT WOULD NOT SURPRISE ME AT ALL IF THE AGENTS DID NOT TAKE HIM UP ON THAT OFFER. THEY DID NOT HAVE A WARRANT EXCEPT FOR THE SPECIFIC ELECTRONIC DEVICES THAT THEY SEIZED. SO I THINK THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN ALSO BY THE BOOK. >> YEAH. YOU MAKE AN IMPORTANT DISTINCTION THERE WHICH FOR VIEWERS MATTERS, WHICH IS GIULIANI IS MAKING IT SOUND LIKE, OH, THEY WANTED DEVICES. I GOT ALL KINDS OF DEVICES. COME ON IN. WHEN IN FACT THEY COULD ONLY TAKE DEVICES TIED TO THIS INVESTIGATION. SO IF HE HAS A FRIENDS DEVICE OR A HUNTER BIDEN DEVICE OR SOMEONE WAS OVER FOR A COCKTAIL AND LEFT A PHONE ON THE TABLE,
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Channel: MSNBC
Views: 506,141
Rating: 4.6102881 out of 5
Keywords: Fox News, Politics, Ari Melber, Rudy Giuliani, Ukraine, Donald Trump, Best of last night, The Beat with Ari Melber, Giuliani, rudy guiliani raid, guiliani investigation, giuliani investigation, giuliani fox news, ukraine probe, giuliani allegations, msnbc, ari melber msnbc, giuliani interview
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Length: 8min 13sec (493 seconds)
Published: Fri Apr 30 2021
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