PROJECT. HIS NEW BOOK, THE LATINO CENTURY, HOW AMERICA'S LARGEST MINORITY IS TRANSFORMING DEMOCRACY. IT COMES OUT NEXT WEEK. McCONNELL SAID TRUMP WAS PRACTICALLY AND MORALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE INSURRECTION. OKAY. I'M GOING TO SAY THAT ONE MORE TIME. PRACTICALLY AND MORALLY RESPONSIBLE. HOW DO YOU THINK THIS MEETING IS GOING TO GO? THERE IS A TURTLE SHELL AND SOMEBODY IS GOING BACK IN IT. >> IT'S WONDERFUL HOW PEOPLE CAN SAY CERTAIN THINGS AND A COUPLE YEARS LATER ALL OF A SUDDEN HE IS WINNING. HE SEEMED A LITTLE RELUCTANT, BUT NOT THAT SURPRISING. HE WILL HAVE TO SIT DOWN WITH DONALD TRUMP. THE REALITY IS NOTHING SUCCEEDS LIKE SUCCESS AND WINNING THESE PRIMARIES, WHATEVER ATTEMPTS TO ISOLATE HIM, TO ALIENATE HIM, TO TRY TO FIND SOMEONE ELSE, NONE OF THAT WORKED. >> LOOK, DONALD TRUMP HAS A PROBLEM RIGHT NOW. IT HAS BEEN CONSISTENT FROM NEW HAMPSHIRE TO NEW MEXICO. VOTERS ARE GETTING OUT FOR SOMEONE WHO IS NOT EVEN RUNNING ANYMORE AS LONG AS IT IS IN DONALD TRUMP. PERSONALLY SPEAKING I KNOW WHAT THIS PRESSURE IS LIKE. ANY REPUBLICAN WHO SPEAKS ILL OR OUT OF TURN IS GOING TO BE FORCED INTO FEALTY BY THE LEADER. >> AND HE IS NOT EVEN JUMPING FOR THAT PERSON. NIKKI HALEY, HE IS NOT EVEN RACING TO MAKE HER HIS VP. >> KNOW AND A MORE SIGNIFICANT PROBLEM I WILL SAY IS THIS. BOTH BIDEN AND TRUMP HAVE CHALLENGES WITH THEIR RESPECTIVE BASES, BUT DONALD TRUMP HAS AN ELECTION DAY PROBLEM THAT IS NOT SHOWING UP IN HIS POLLING. JOE BIDEN HAS A POLLING PROBLEM THAT IS NOT SHOWING UP ON ELECTION DAY. >> WHAT? >> JOE BIDEN HAS A POLLING PROBLEM THAT IS NOT SHOWING UP. >> OH, YES. >> TRUMP HAS THE EXACT OPPOSITE PROBLEM. IF THE MAP DOESN'T MATCH THE TERRAIN. WHAT IS REALLY HAPPENING ON THE GROUND IS DEMOCRATS ARE COALESCING BY THEIR NOMINEE AND NOT BACKING DONALD TRUMP AT HISTORIC LEVELS. >> IT IS INTERESTING BECAUSE WE HAVE BOTH BEEN AT STATE PARTIES AND ONE THING YOU GENERALLY DON'T HEAR FROM DONALD TRUMP IS ALL THE MONEY AND RESOURCES HE WILL PUT BEHIND OTHER CAMPAIGNS. >> NOT ONLY IS HE NOT SAYING IT, BUT HIS DAUGHTER-IN-LAW HAS MADE IT CLEAR THAT IT ALL GOES TO HIM. >> IT GOES TO HIM TO PAY OFF HIS LEGAL DEBTS AND SO ON. MAYBE THE MITCH McCONNELL MEETING IS AT LEAST CARRY SOME OF OUR CANDIDATES. AS A STRATEGIST HE WOULD WANT THAT TO HAPPEN. >> COME ON, DO YOU THINK MITCH McCONNELL IS GOING TO SAY THAT IN DONALD TRUMP WILL SAY THAT'S RIGHT. >> IF I AM MITCH McCONNELL I HAVE TO MAKE THAT POINT OTHERWISE YOU WILL LOSE TWO HOUSES. >> THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN IS SAYING THAT THE GOAL OF THIS IS TO UNITE THE SPLINTERED REPUBLICAN PARTY IN THE HOUSE AND SENATE BEHIND SORT OF TRUMP'S AGENDA. IS THAT REALLY HIS GOAL? >> FIRST IT SHOULD BE IF IT IS NOT. >> IT SHOULD BE, BUT LET'S LOOK AT WHAT HIS POLICIES ARE AND LOOK AT WHAT HIS ACTIONS ARE. DO YOU BELIEVE THERE IS ANY UNITED ACTION? >> NO, BUT THE ONLY POLICY DECISION HE MADE IS TO PULL BACK ON THE IMMIGRATION PLAN THEY HAVE BEEN ADVOCATING FOR. EVEN THEIR OWN PLANS THEY ARE WALKING AWAY FROM. I REALLY DO BELIEVE THAT THE GOAL IS TO TRY TO INSTILL DISCIPLINE AND SAY NO ONE ELSE IS LEAVING THE FAMILY. IF YOU LEAVE THE FAMILY THERE WILL BE A PRICE TO PAY BECAUSE HE HAS A SIGNIFICANT WEAKNESS IN THE REPUBLICAN BASE AND ANY LEAKAGE COULD BE DEVASTATING. >> EXCEPT THE FAMILY IS NOT THE REPUBLICAN FAMILY, IT IS THE TRUMP FAMILY. DO YOU THINK HE COULD BE SUCCESSFUL BECAUSE IN TRUTH -- EXCUSE ME, REPUBLICANS TRADITIONALLY DO A BETTER JOB OF GETTING IN LINE AND FOLLOWING THEIR LEADERS. SO DO YOU BELIEVE FOR HIM OR FOR THEM THAT SOMETHING GOOD COULD COME OF IT? >> IT GOES TO THE POINT EARLIER ABOUT SUCCESS. IF YOU LOOK AT SOME OF HIS PRIMARY CANDIDATES THEY HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL, BUT WHEN HE HAS GONE OUT AND SUPPORTED ELECTION DENIERS THEY HAVE NOT BEEN SUCCESSFUL. TO ME THERE HAS TO BE SOME REALIGNMENT, IF YOU WILL, USING THE TERM STRONGLY. THERE HAS TO BE REALIGNMENT OF THAT STRATEGY GOING FORWARD. HOW DOES A MODERATE REPUBLICAN SIT NEXT TO A TRUMP REPUBLICAN AND THINK THEY HAVE THE SAME OUTCOMES IN MIND? TO YOUR POINT I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT CAN ACTUALLY HAPPEN RIGHT NOW AND THAT IS WHY JOE BIDEN BELIEVES THERE IS AN OPENING. NOT JUST NIKKI HALEY VOTERS, BUT REPUBLICANS WHO ARE LIKE DO YOU REALLY WANT TO GET BEHIND THIS GUY? IF YOU ARE LOOKING AT WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH THE RISE OF THE FAR RIGHT AND YOU HAVE DONALD TRUMP ECHOING SOME OF THE SAME TALKING POINTS. IF I AM JOE BIDEN I AM SAYING NOT JUST WHO IS THIS GUY NOW, BUT WHERE IS HE TAKING US AS A COUNTRY? THIS IS INCREDIBLY DANGEROUS AND I IMAGINE A LOT OF REPUBLICANS
