Here's What I Think Of Jordan Peterson - Jocko Willink

there's a lot of similarities i think between your personal philosophy and jordan peterson's i know you've spoken to him a couple of times what have you learned from him well the the most interesting thing that i learned from jordan peterson and i mentioned this the first time he came on my podcast was that you know he's a trained academic that studied this stuff his whole life and we came to a lot of the same conclusions about things and i just came to those conclusions through living and the the experiences that i had and he came to them through studying this stuff in a very rigorous way and and the cool thing is luckily for me i had written books that sort of predated uh i got there first yeah i got that first it wasn't that i got there first but i mean this these were the thoughts that i had i mean discipline equals freedom that book came out i think before i before jordan peterson was on the scene it's the book extreme ownership which is about taking personal responsibility what's about taking responsibility and you can definitely apply it to personal responsibility so luckily for me those books kind of predated uh jordan peterson coming onto the scene and and doing everything that he did but again it's not like i created any of those things it's not like i created it before he created and it's not like he created it before other philosophers had figured these things out so i'd say the most interesting thing about jordan peterson that i that i found and i think it was pretty interesting to him too was the fact that we both had kind of come to these same conclusions and we had lived very different lives i mean i'm sure there's more disparate lives that we could live but they're pretty different lives and that's that was a very interesting thing and it made me feel like well it made me feel good about the fact that the things that i had figured out were in line with things that he had figured out and that means maybe there's a little bit more strength and universality to these things that i believed which which felt pretty good just gonna pause that do you wanna go and see if there's someone stealing things outside if there's someone stealing things can you let me know it looks like they're bringing things in that's the opposite it's nice to know or to think that something that's been proven in the field of battle or on the field of play is backed up in academia right that someone can go through the annals of philosophy history and come to a similar conclusion as you yeah uh absolutely and you know the stuff this stuff that i say is in the bible the stuff that i say is in stoicism and and jordan peterson you know says the stuff that i say or i say the stuff that he says again i'm not trying to compete with jordan peterson on any level uh especially some kind of an intellectual level but we have similar thoughts about things and that predated either one of us knowing who each other were so i think that's pretty cool why do you think people are drawn to advice that's telling them to do hard things kind of seems counterintuitive why do i think people are drawn to advice telling them to do hard things because i think p any person any human realizes that if you want some kind of a good outcome you're going to have to work hard for it and if you and if you don't work hard for something you're not going to get an outcome that's really worth much well that is the thing that separates the achievements on the other side of it right if it was easy everyone would do it if it was easy everyone would achieve it so this is one of the things that i i try and rely on when training's been getting hard i ruptured my achilles a couple of years ago that sucked i wouldn't advise it as an injury generally yeah and it's like a random you know a lot of times people just do it you know getting out of their car or something i was playing cricket the most british way to snap into a very british way to snap your achilles for sure um [Music] during that during the rehab for that it's pretty just uncomfortable it's endless calf raises right which not fun and the discomfort that you feel and the the pain the um fear of it re-rupturing which is the number one thing you're doing it to have happen the thing that i went back to in my mind was this is why i'm here the discomfort that i was feeling the um effort the pain the sweat thankfully this was during covid so it meant that if i had to do a workout every single morning for half an hour on just my carbs it's like what else are you doing right there's a pandemic going on um this is why you're here was the reminder it's like look this is the reason why the re-rupture rate is uh five to ten percent because people don't want to do this thing people don't want to do the thing because it hurts because it takes half an hour every single day for nearly 12 months it's a full 12-month recovery that's why this is why you're here and i think that you're right i think that the selection is people deep down know that picking up heavy things physically psychologically existentially culturally is good for us and i think that that's why it's attractive i agree another thing that i think is that it's one of the reasons why people can become a little bit triggered triggered they can become a little bit uncomfortable when they see somebody else that's got a lot of discipline because i think deep down they know that if they had that thing that that would fix a lot of the problems that they have in their life is this a dynamic that you that you've seen i'm sure that's a a bummer for someone to look at someone else that's working really hard and and achieving some positive things and they know that they're not maybe working as hard as they could be and they're not really achieving what they want to achieve i'm sure that stings a little bit another thing that jordan said recently is that the problem with twitter is that the price of being a prick has fallen to zero i feel like you'd agree with that as well yeah yeah i guess i'd agree with that if you're gonna spend a bunch of time on twitter you're gonna you're gonna run into a bunch of people that don't like you and they're gonna say it and there's nothing you can do about it so and the ability for people's words and the consequences of those words to become detached as well is something that's only pretty recent i mean i mean i guess you could have sent a mean telegram a hundred years ago yeah i i i would recommend that you don't let random bots or people on twitter bother you that much that's that's my recommendation i i would recommend you i you know the first time i kind of experienced that it was when i was on i was on rogan for the first time and the youtube video came out and i sat there with my oldest daughter who is probably maybe 14 or 15 at the time and i sat there and read these heinous comments about me and laughed but i mean it was kind of you know some were pretty good it was kind of funny so yeah i'm not i i'm not getting bothered by somebody that wants to talk smack about me for whatever on twitter and also there's there's probably some truth to whatever they're saying you know they say i'm a big knuckle dragger yeah probably right you know they say i'm an idiot yeah there's definitely some of that what else what's happening people if you enjoyed that then press here for the full unedited episode and don't forget to subscribe peace

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Length: 7min 53sec (473 seconds)

Published: Fri Jul 15 2022