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WE WILL BE BACK TOMORROW WITH MORE "MEET THE PRESS" BUT NBC NEWS NOW COVERAGE CONTINUES AT "HALLIE JACKSON NOW". ♪ ♪ >>> TONIGHT, NO ESCAPE FROM THE FIGHTING IN GAZA AS ISRAEL CONTINUES TO RAMP UP ITS ATTACK. REFUGEE CAMPS ARE NOW POTENTIAL MILITARY TARGETS. WHY THE U.N. IS A NO PLACE IS SAFE FOR CIVILIANS. >>> DEPENDING WHERE YOU ARE, YOU MIGHT BE SEEING SNOW, ICE, AND RAIN. WE WILL TELL YOU WHAT IT MIGHT MEAN FOR TRAVEL WITH MORE THAN 100 MILLION PEOPLE PLANNING TRIPS HOME FOR THE HOLIDAYS. >>> JUST BEFORE WE WENT ON AIR, REPUBLICANS RAISING THE STAKES IN THE IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY INTO PRESIDENT BIDEN. WHAT THEY ARE ASKING FOR IN A LETTER JUST OBTAINED BY NBC NEWS NOW. >>> A WIN IN COURT FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP. WE WILL TELL YOU WHAT IS ON THE PRIMARY BALLOT. >>> DETAILS ON A MIRACULOUS RESCUE AND HOW DRIVER TRAPPED FOR DAYS STAYED ALIVE IN THE ONE IN 1 MILLION STORY OF THE DISCOVERY. >>> HELLO COME IN, FOR HALLIE. WE ARE COMING ON THE AIR WITH UNITED NATIONS WARNING THAT THERE IS NO SAFE PLACE FOR CIVILIANS AS ISRAELI OPERATIONS EXPAND AND INTENSIFY ACROSS GAZA. GAZANS WHO FLED THEIR HOMES INTO REFUGEE CAMPS, NOW FACING THE REALITY THAT THEIR SAFE HAVEN COULD BECOME A MILITARY TARGET. REFUGEE CAMPS ARE SEEING THAT PLAY OUT. LOOK AT THIS SCENE FROM A LOCAL HOSPITAL, CHAOS ALL AROUND WITH MORE PATIENCE IN THE EMERGENCY ROOM. HEALTH OFFICIALS SAY THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE KILLED SINCE THE WAR BROKE OUT HAS NOW TOPPED 21,000. ISRAEL'S ARMY CHIEF SAID TUESDAY THAT THE WAR WILL GO ON FOR "MANY MONTHS UNTIL THEY ACCOMPLISHED DISMANTLING HAMAS'S CONTROL OVER GAZA." HEART OF THAT IS DESTROYING THE TUNNEL SYSTEM BELOW GAZA. WE ARE TAKING LOOK AT TO THE LARGEST TUNNEL FOUND, TO DATE. IT IS SO BIG YOU CAN DRIVE A CAR THROUGH IT. WE HAVE TEAM COVERAGE TONIGHT WITH JAY GRAY AND JOSH LETTERMAN IN TEL AVIV. GIVE US SOME PERSPECTIVE ON WHAT THIS EXPANDING ISRAELI OPERATION MEANS FOR MILLIONS OF GAZANS LOOKING TO GET OUT OF HARMS WAY. >> YEAH, THOSE SCENES YOU SHOWED US, AIRSTRIKES NEAR THAT HOSPITAL LEFT AT LEAST 20 DEAD ACCORDING TO REPORTS ON THE GROUND. THE IDF IS EXPANDING THE GROUND OPERATION AND ARE TARGETING REFUGEE CAMPS, CALLING THOSE AREAS "A NEW BATTLE ZONE." THEY ARE GRAVELY CONCERNED ABOUT THE SHIFT IN STRATEGY, THE FIGHTING INTENDS AND CROWDED IN URBAN AREAS AND ADDING TO THE PANIC AND CHAOS. THOSE AREAS ARE DEALING WITH COMMUNICATION BLACKOUTS, NO CELL PHONES, NO INTERNET. THE IDF IS SAYING THAT THEY HAVE STRUCK AT LEAST 100 HAMAS TARGETS OVER THE LAST 24 HOURS AND KILLED ONE SENIOR HAMAS MILITARY LEADER. THE PALESTINIAN HEALTH MINISTRY IS SAYING THAT MORE THAN 250 HAVE DIED. >> WE ALSO HAVE GROWING TENSIONS BETWEEN ISRAEL AND THE STATE RESPONSIBLE FOR DISTRIBUTING AID TO GAZA AS OFFICIALS OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS ARE MAKING SERIOUS CLAIMS. TAKE A LISTEN. >> UNFORTUNATELY, THEY HAVE BEEN WOEFULLY UNSUCCESSFUL. AID IS NOT REACHING THOSE WHO NEED IT BECAUSE HAMAS HIJACKED IT. >> IF THERE IS ANY ALIDITY TO THOSE CLAIMS, AND HOW IS THE A GROUP RESPONDING? >> WE DO HAVE A RESPONSE AND I CAN TELL YOU, WE WERE AT THE CROSSING A FEW DAYS AGO AFTER IT INITIALLY OPENED. WE SAW SOME OF THOSE TRUCKS, LOADED AND MOVING INTO GAZA. WE WERE TOLD THAT THERE WAS "NO FOOD SHORTAGE" IN GAZA. WE ARE HEARING FROM THE AGENCIES, INCLUDING THE U.N., SAYING THEY DELIVER DIRECTLY TO PEOPLE IN NEED IN THE GAZA STRIP, TRUCKS WITH DRIVERS, GO TO THE BORDERS AND PICK UP THE TRUCKS WITH AID. DRIVERS ARE USING CARS TO DELIVER THE AID TO SHELTERS WHERE STAFF RECEIVED IT AND DISTRIBUTE IT TO THOSE IN NEED. WE WERE TOLD BY THE IDF, WATCHING THAT AID MOVEMENT THAT THERE SEEMS TO BE SOME TYPE OF DISTRIBUTION PROBLEM AS YOU JUST SAW AND HEARD. THEY REALLY DISPUTE THAT AND ARE SAYING THEY ARE DOING EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO GET AID TO PEOPLE WHO DESPERATELY NEED IT RIGHT NOW. ONE OTHER QUICK NOTE, ON A GOOD DAY, 200 TRUCKS RIGHT NOW MOVE ACROSS THE BORDER AND INTO GAZA AND BEFORE THE WAR, AS MANY 500 A DAY. >> NOW, TO JOSH LETTERMAN WITH A FIRSTHAND LOOK INSIDE WHAT ISRAEL CAUSED THE LARGEST HAMAS TUNNEL THEY FOUND SINCE THE WAR BEGAN. >> EVER SINCE THIS WAR STARTED, ISRAEL HAS BEEN SAYING THAT THE MOVE TO BUILD TUNNELS UNDER CIVILIAN INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE GAZA STRIP WAS ONE OF THE REASONS IT IS SO DIFFICULT FOR ISRAEL TO CONDUCT THIS WAR WITHOUT POTENTIALLY PUTTING THE LIVES OF CIVILIANS IN DANGER AND TODAY WE GOT A FIRSTHAND LOOK INSIDE WHAT ISRAEL SAYS IS THE LARGEST HAMAS TUNNEL DISCOVERED DURING THIS WAR. IT'S ABOUT 10 FEET TALL WITH CONCRETE WALLS, AND IT'S ACTUALLY POSSIBLE FOR A CAR TO BE DRIVEN INTO IT BASED ON THE WIDTH AND THE FACT THAT THERE IS A DECLINING SLOPE INTO THIS TUNNEL. ISRAEL SAID THAT THIS IS ONLY A QUARTER-MILE FROM THE ISRAELI BORDER BUT THAT IT DOES EXTEND 2.5 MILES INTO GAZA TOWARD GAZA CITY. NOW, WE CANNOT INDEPENDENTLY VERIFY WHAT HAMAS WAS USING THE TUNNEL FOR, WHETHER IT WAS USED FOR ANY MILITARY PURPOSES, OR HOW RECENTLY IT WAS INHABITED BUT WE WERE INVITED TO TOUR THE TUNNEL BY THE IDF AS THEY ARE WORKING TO BOLSTER THEIR CLAIMS ABOUT HOW HAMAS, IN THEIR VIEW, HAS JEOPARDIZED THE SAFETY OF THE POPULATION AS ISRAEL SAYS THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF THESE TUNNELS THROUGHOUT THE GAZA STRIP WITH THE ISRAELI GOVERNMENT LOOKING FOR WAYS TO TRY TO DESTROY THESE TUNNELS, EVEN AS THEY SAY THAT GETTING EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM IS A VERY DIFFICULT TASK AND THEY SAY IT'S CRITICAL THAT ISRAEL BE ABLE TO ROOT OUT THESE TUNNELS IF THEY ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THEIR GOAL OF COMPLETELY ELIMINATING HAMAS. >> THE TOP DIPLOMAT IS IN MEXICO FOR A MEETING WITH THE COUNTRY'S PRESIDENT, HOPING TO CHART A PATH FORWARD. THE MEETING BETWEEN THE SECRETARY OF STATE AND MEXICAN PRESIDENT LOPEZ COMES AS A CARAVAN IS MAKING ITS WAY NORTH, RAISING FEARS THAT THE IMMIGRATION SYSTEM WILL BE PUSHED TO THE BREAKING POINT. THEY ARE HIDDEN ALL-TIME RECORDS FOR HOW MANY PEOPLE THEY ENCOUNTER TRYING TO CROSS THE BORDER AND 200,000 MIGRANTS TRYING TO GET NTO THE U.S. EVERY MONTH. MORE, FROM EAGLE PASS, TEXAS. >>> WHAT DIFFERENCE A WEEK MAKES BECAUSE IT WAS ON THIS VERY SPOT THAT WE STOOD A WEEK AGO AND LOOKED INTO A FIELD OF MIGRANT FAMILIES DURING A TIME THAT WAS BREAKING RECORDS FOR ILLEGAL CROSSINGS. WE ARE EXPERIENCING A BIT OF A LOAN, BUT IT MAY NOT BE LASTING LONG. WE KNOW THAT THERE IS A CARAVAN SPOTTED IN MEXICO, THAT IS 1000 MILES AWAY FROM WHERE WE ARE, BUT THE ORGANIZERS SAY THAT THEY ARE NOW 8000 STRONG, COMPRISED OF MEN, WOMEN AND CHILDREN, MAKING THEIR WAY NORTH WITH CARAVANS, GROUPS LIKE THAT TO PRECIPITATE THIS MEETING BETWEEN MEXICO'S PRESIDENT AND U.S. SECRETARY OF STATE ANTHONY BLINKING -- ANTONY BLINKEN. THEY AGREE THAT SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE SOONER THAN LATER. FINDING A WAY TO INCENTIVIZE MIGRANTS TO STAY IN MEXICO LONGER OR POTENTIALLY PERMANENTLY ONCE THEY LEAVE THE CENTRAL AMERICAN COUNTRIES OF ORIGIN WITH A POTENTIAL SOLUTION , WORKPLACE VISA THAT WOULD ALLOW THEM TO PROVIDE FOR THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILIES WHILE THEY ARE THERE INSTEAD OF RUSHING TO THE RIO GRANDE. ANOTHER KEY ISSUE, AS WELL. WE DO KNOW THAT PRESIDENT BIDEN HAS PROMISED ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR UPWARDS OF MORE THAN 1000 BORDER PATROL OFFICERS. MEXICAN AUTHORITIES ARE ALSO SAYING THAT THEY ARE PRESSED TO KEEP UP WITH THE NUMBER OF MIGRANTS WITHIN THE LAW ENFORCEMENT THEY HAD ON HAND SO NOTHING IS OFF THE TABLE FROM A SOLUTION STANDPOINT IF IT COULD HELP THE ISSUE THAT THESE COUNTRIES ARE FACING SIMULTANEOUSLY. WE KNOW THAT FROM THOSE THAT WE SPOKE TO WHO HAD MADE THAT JOURNEY, AS DANGEROUS AS IT'S BEEN, AND AS LONG AS IT'S BEEN, THEY SAY THAT IT'S ABSOLUTELY WORTH IT TO LEAVE THE DANGER OF THEIR HOME COUNTRY BEHIND. BACK TO YOU. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >>> MILLIONS OF AMERICANS ARE FACING ALL KINDS OF MESSY WEATHER AS THE MIDWEST GET SLAMMED BY A MIX OF ICE AND SNOW. THE NORTHEAST IS SEEING HEAVY RAIN AND DENSE FOG, CAUSING LOW VISIBILITY ON ROADS AND THE PLAINS ESTATE IS SEEING THE AFTERMATH OF BLIZZARD CONDITIONS IN THE LAST FEW DAYS, PLACES LIKE NEBRASKA AND NORTH DAKOTA REOPENING MAJOR INTERSTATES AS THEY SHOVEL FEET OF SNOW AND THOUSANDS ARE STILL WITHOUT POWER WHICH COULD MEAN TROUBLE PAIN, SOMETHING LIKE 115 MILLION PEOPLE ACROSS THE COUNTRY ARE HEADING HOME BETWEEN CHRISTMAS AND NEW YEAR'S ACCORDING TO AAA. WE GOT OUR TEAM ALL OVER THIS FOR YOU, AND JULIET IS STANDING BY AT REAGAN NATIONAL AIRPORT. LET'S GO TO YOU, FIRST. WHO IS GETTING THE WORST OF IT RIGHT NOW? >> WE ARE ENDING THE YEAR WITH QUITE THE MASTERS WE DO HAVE FLOOD WATCHES FROM PHILADELPHIA TO ATLANTIC CITY, NOT SO MUCH BECAUSE OF A TON OF RAIN, BECAUSE THE GROUND IS SATURATED AND RIVERS ARE CLOSE TO OVERFLOWING. THE STORM ITSELF WILL CONTINUE TO BRING HEAVY RAIN TO THE NORTHEAST AND MID- ATLANTIC. ON THE BACKSIDE OF THIS SYSTEM, IT GETS PRETTY CHILLY AND WE ARE LOOKING FOR SNOW SHOWERS TO THE MIDWEST AND WE WILL EVEN SEE LIGHT SNOW IN KENTUCKY AND TENNESSEE, NORTHERN ALABAMA, NORTHERN MISSISSIPPI COULD SEE SOME FLURRY ACTION, BUT WE ARE NOT LOOKING AT A LOT AS FAR AS THE SNOWFALL IS CONCERNED, MAYBE IN THE APPALACHIANS. WE HAVE A FEW INCHES OF RAIN AND THEN AS THE STORM FINISHES, EVEN ON FRIDAY, IT IS UNSETTLED AND WE WILL SEE IMPROVEMENTS INTO THE WEEKEND. >> DO WE EXPECT THE STORMY WEATHER INTO THE NEW YEAR? >> FOR THE MOST PART, THE WEATHER LOOKS OKAY GETTING INTO THE NEW YEAR. WE ARE LOOKING FOR HEAVIER RAIN OUT OF THE WEST COAST, WHICH FIZZLES AS IT MOVES EAST. SUNDAY, WE SEE LETTER SNOW SHOWERS AROUND THE GREAT LAKES THERE SUNDAY NIGHT, WHICH GETS QUITE CHILLY, ESPECIALLY THE NORTHERN PLAINS. WE HAVE TEMPERATURES ONLY IN THE TEENS AND 20s AND MONDAY WE DON'T REBOUND MUCH. WE FEEL SEASONABLE, IF NOT A LITTLE BELOW AVERAGE BUT FOR NEW YEAR'S DAY, AGAIN, IT DOES LOOK LIKE THE WEATHER SHOULD COOPERATE WITH SUNSHINE. >>> WE HAVE GOOD NEWS TO LOOK FORWARD TO. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >>> BRINGING IN JULIET IN D.C. WHAT ARE YOU HEARING FROM TRAVELERS TODAY? >> LET'S START WITH GOOD NEWS. WE HAVE NOT SEEN TOO MUCH OF THAT DISRUPTION CAUSED BY HEAVY RAIN. YOU CAN SEE IT BEHIND ME. THE DELAYS HAVE PICKED UP THROUGHOUT THE DAY, I JUST CHECKED, 30 OR SO, SO NOT GREAT BUT NOT TERRIBLE AND THOSE THAT WE CHATTED WITH SEEM TO BE IN GOOD SPIRITS. >> BE ON TIME. WE DON'T WANT TO BE SO STRESSED. >> A LOT OF PLANNING, GETTING ORGANIZED. A CAR SEAT, STROLLE , BAD FOR HER STUFF, A LOT OF PREPLANNING BUT WE ARE ALL SET. >> BUT TRAVELERS ACROSS THE COUNTRY, NOT SO LUCKY. MORE THAN 4700 FLIGHTS HAVE BEEN DELAYED WITH 1200 OF THOSE FROM SOUTHWEST AIRLINES AND WE JUST HEARD THAT THE DELAYS ARE A RESULT OF AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL REDUCING THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC. YOU ARE SEEING THIS IMPACT AIRPORTS IN FLORIDA. ABOUT QUARTER OF THE FLIGHTS OUT OF ORLANDO AND FORT LAUDERDALE HAVE BEEN DELAYED AND THERE IS A GROUNDED DELAY IN PALM BEACH ALL DAY, ABOUT 2.5 HOURS. SAN FRANCISCO, EXPENSING GROUND DELAYS, SO COAST-TO-COAST YOU DO SEE THESE DISRUPTIONS AND DELAYS THE AIRLINES ARE TRYING THEIR BEST TO STAY ON TARGET. >> AND THE QUESTION, WHAT SHOULD PEOPLE TRAVELING TOMORROW OR LATER EXPECT? >> THEY SHOULD EXPECT MORE OF THE SAME. WE ARE TOLD BY TSA THAT THEY EXPECT TO .5 MILLION OR MORE PASSENGERS TODAY WHICH IS EXPECTED TO GROW WITH THE PEAK FRIDAY AND MONDAY, NEW YEAR'S DAY BEEN THE BUSIEST TRAVEL TIME BUT THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT TSA HAS KEPT IT UNDER 15 MINUTES, SO THEY ARE DOING THEIR BEST, BUT AS YOU HEARD FROM MY FRIENDS HERE EARLIER, THE BEST THAT TRAVELERS CAN DO IS PLAN AHEAD, AND ARRIVE EARLY AND BE SURE YOU DON'T GET STUCK IN TRAFFIC ON YOUR WAY HERE. >> THANK YOU. >>> TO CAPITOL HILL, WHERE HOUSE REPUBLICANS ARE REVVING UP THEIR IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY OF PRESIDENT BIDEN. BY GOING AFTER THE WHITE HOUSE DOCUMENTS ON THE PRESIDENTS SON, HUNTER BIDEN. THE HEAD OF THE OVERSIGHT AND JUDICIARY COMMITTEES ARE ADDING FOR DOCUMENTS AND COMMUNICATIONS RECEIVED BY EMPLOYEES OF THE EXECUTIVE OFFICE REGARDING THE DEPOSITION OF HUNTER BIDEN. A FEW WEEKS AGO, THE HOUSE REPUBLICANS EXPECTED HUNTER BIDEN TO TESTIFY PRIVATELY AND INSTEAD HE STOOD THEM UP, SAYING HE WOULD ONLY TALK IN A PUBLIC SETTING. THE COMMITTEE CHAIRS ARE NOW FOLLOWING UP ON A PROMISE TO INVESTIGATE HIS NO-SHOW AND WHETHER OR NOT THE PRESIDENT PLAYED A ROLE IN ENCOURAGING HIS SON NOT TO TESTIFY. WHAT -- WHAT ARE THEY HOPING TO FIND AMONG THESE DOCUMENTS AND WILL THE WHITE HOUSE PLAY BALL? >> WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO FIND IS A DIRECT CONNECTION OR COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE WHITE HOUSE AND HUNTER BIDEN'S LEGAL TEAM THAT LED TO THE PRESIDENT HIMSELF SPECIFICALLY TELLING HUNTER BIDEN NOT TO COMPLY WITH THE COMMITTEE'S SUBPOENA TO APPEAR FOR DEPOSITION. THEY ARE NOT BASING IT ON HARD EVIDENCE, PUBLIC STATEMENTS FROM MEMBERS OF THE WHITE HOUSE TEAM, AND THE WAY THAT HUNTER BIDEN CONDUCTED HIMSELF, SO THAT'S WHY THEY'VE BEEN TAKING THIS STEP OF ASKING FOR COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE LEGAL TEAM AND THE WHITE HOUSE TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY SPECIFIC ADVICE BEING PROVIDED BY WHITE HOUSE COUNSEL OR MEMBERS OF THE ADMINISTRATION, INSTRUCTING HUNTER BIDEN DID NOT COMPLY WITH THE SUBPOENA. THE FACT THAT THE PRESIDENT HAD ADVANCED AWARENESS THAT MR. BIDEN WOULD DEFY THE SUBPOENA RAISES A TROUBLING QUESTION THAT WE MUST EXAMINE. FROM COMPLYING WITH THE COMMITTEE'S SUBPOENA. IT COULD CONSTITUTE AN IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE AND ITS PECULIAR THAT THEY ARE RAISING ANOTHER POSSIBLE IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE AS THEY CONTINUE THIS INQUIRY INTO PRESIDENT BIDEN, SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE THEY HAVE YET TO HAVE HARD EVIDENCE THAT LINKS HIS BUSINESS DEALINGS WITH THE PRESIDENT HIMSELF ESPECIALLY THAT WOULD RISE TO THE LEVEL OF HIGH CRIMES AND MISDEMEANORS ON THE WHITE HOUSE AT THIS POINT IS NOT COMMENTING ON THIS LETTER SENT TO THE WHITE HOUSE, ASKING FOR THIS INFORMATION AND WHETHER OR NOT THEY WILL SUPPLY IT REMAINS IN QUESTION. THIS WILL LIKELY BE A LENGTHY BACK-AND-FORTH BETWEEN THE SIDE BEFORE WE GET A SOLUTION. >>> FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP CLAIMED VICTORY AFTER MICHIGAN SUPREME COURT DECLINED TO HEAR A CASE TO REMOVE HIM FROM XERS PRIMARY BALLOT. THE OUTCOME IS VERY DIFFERENT IN THIS BATTLEGROUND STATE FROM WHAT WE SAW IN COLORADO. THE SUPREME COURT RULED TO REMOVE TRUMP FROM THE BALLOT AND THE SUPREME COURT WROTE THAT IN THIS CASE IT WAS NOT PERSUADED THAT THE QUESTIONS PRESENTED SHOULD BE REVIEWED BY THIS COURT. THE FORMER PRESIDENT WROTE THAT NOT LONG AFTER THAT THIS WAS A "PATHETIC GAMBIT" DURING THE ELECTION. SO, SAME SECTION, TWO OUTCOMES. HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE? >> MICHIGAN SUPREME COURT ACTUALLY, DISAFFIRMED THE DECISION, SAYING THEY WOULD NOT HEAR ARGUMENTS THEMSELVES ON THIS MEETING THAT DONALD TRUMP WOULD REMAIN ON THE BALLOT AND THOSE LOWER COURTS NEVER ANSWERED THE QUESTION OF WHETHER DONALD TRUMP ENGAGED IN INSURRECTION OR AIDED IT OR NO . TO YOUR QUESTION, WHY? WELL, THE LAWS ARE DIFFERENT AND IN COLORADO IT'S UP TO THE SECRETARY OF STATE TO DETERMINE WHETHER A CANDIDATE IS QUALIFIED TO BE ON THE PRIMARY BALLOT AND THEY SAID THAT THAT IS NOT THE DECISION OF THE SECRETARY OF STATE, ITS POLITICAL PARTIES THAT DECIDE AND NOTICEABLY THAT COULD THAT -- THAT COULD BE DIFFERENT FOR THE GENERAL ELECTION. IT WILL BE COMPLICATED BUT DECIDED BY THE U.S. SUPREME COURT IN REGARDS TO THE APPEAL THAT THIS COULD HAPPEN IN WEEKS, MONTHS, AND THIS IS VERY MUCH SOMETHING WE ARE WAITING FOR. >> AND THERE ARE SIMILAR LEGAL CHALLENGES HAPPENING IN OTHER STATES AS WELL. >> COLORADO AND MICHIGAN ARE NOT THE ONLY ONES, SO WHAT WE CAN EXPECT IS THESE OTHER STATE COURTS WHICH ARE WORKING OFF OF THEIR OWN STATE LAWS ARE HEARING THESE APPEALS AND THE U.S. SUPREME COURT WILL LIKELY HEAR THE APPEAL AND WE EXPECT DONALD TRUMP AND HIS LEGAL TEAM TO PUT THAT FORWARD FROM THE COLORADO CASE WHICH COULD COME IN A MATTER OF DAYS. IT'S ALL, LOCATED BY THE FACT THAT THE PRIMARIES ARE BEGINNING ON THE 15th AND DONALD TRUMP AND THE REPUBCAN PARTY HAVE EXPRESSED CONCERN THAT SAY THE U.S. SUPREME COURT WERE TO DETERMINE THAT DONALD TRUMP IS DISQUALIFIED, DR. TRUMP HAS MADE THE CASE THEY WOULD BE NULLIFYING THE VOTES AND THAT IS WHAT WOULD GET INTO TOTAL CHAOS BECAUSE THE CONVENTION IS NEXT JULY AND IT'S NOT THE VOTERS THAT DECIDE. >> CHAOS IS THE WORD. >>> THE FIRST LAWSUIT FROM A MAJOR MEDIA COMPANY FROM OPEN AI, WHY THE NEW YORK TIMES SAYS THEY ARE OWED BILLIONS >>> DETAILS IN THE DEATH OF A FAN AT ONE OF TAYLOR'S FIRST CONCERTS IN BRAZIL. WHAT POLICE ARE SAYING ABOUT >>> A MAJOR TOURIST ATTRACTION IN PARIS IS CLOSED TODAY. WE WILL EXPLAIN. >>> NEW DETAILS ON A MIRACULOUS RESCUE WHERE THE DRIVER IS LIVE AFTER BEING TRAPPED INSIDE HIS TRUCK FOR DAYS THANKS TO A MAN AND HIS FATHER-IN-LAW WHO ENDED UP FINDING THE DRIVER BY CHANCE. AUTHORITIES IN INDIANA SAY THAT THE MEN WERE SCOUTING FISHING HOLES BUT FOUND A MAN WHO APPEARED TO BE IN HIS LATE 20s IN A MANGLED CAR UNDER A BRIDGE INSTEAD. PLEASE THINK THE DRIVER CRASHED THE CAR AROUND THE 20th AND THAT HE WAS NOT SPOTTED UNTIL LIKE, SIX DAYS LATER. HE WAS IN SUCH BAD SHAPE THAT THEY INITIALLY THOUGHT HE WAS DEAD. >> HE SAID TO ME THAT HE'S BEEN THERE FOR A LONG TIME. HE WAS A YOUNG GUY AND IT LOOKS LIKE HE WAS REALLY FIGHTING TO BE THERE. >> THE DRIVER TOLD THE MAN THAT HE COULD NOT REACH HIS CELL PHONE TO CALL FOR HELP AND THAT NO ONE COULD HEAR HIM SHOUTING FROM THE CAR, EITHER. POLICE SAY HE SURVIVED ON RAINWATER AND WAS TAKEN TO A HOSPITAL IN SOUTH BEND WITH LIFE-THREATENING INJURIES. >>> LET'S GET YOU OVER TO THE "FIVE THINGS". SOUTH KOREAN POLICE TELL NBC NEWS THAT AN ACTOR DIED IN APPARENT SUICIDE BEST KNOWN FOR HIS ROLE IN "PARASITE." HE WAS BEING INVESTIGATED ON DRUG CHARGES. >>> POLICE IN BRAZIL SAY A TAYLOR SWIFT FAN DIED FROM HEAT EXHAUSTION AFTER COLLAPSING AT ONE OF HER CONCERTS IN RIO. THE 23-YEAR-OLD PASSED OUT DURING THE SECOND SONG AND DIED HOURS LATER AT A HOSPITAL. TEMPERATURES.HUNDRED DEGREES AND CONCERTGOERS ACKNOWLEDGE THEY COULD HAVE DONE MORE TO HELP FANS. IT WAS CLOSED. WAS THE ANNIVERSARY OF THE TOWERS CREATOR. BETWEEN NOVEMBER 1st AND CHRISTMAS EVE. IT WAS UP MORE THAN 6% COMPARED TO THE SAME TIME LAST YEAR. SO WHAT ARE PEOPLE SPENDING MORE ON? >>> THE DETROIT PISTONS MADE HISTORY, TO BECOME THE FIRST TEAM IN THE LEAGUE TO WIN 27 GAMES IN A ROW. THEY WANT THEIR NEXT GAME AGAINST THE CELTIC'S. >>> TAKING OPEN AI AND MICROSOFT SUPPORT FILING A LAWSUIT OVER COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT AND THEY SAY THAT MILLIONS OF ARTICLES PUBLISHED WERE USED TO TRAIN AUTOMATED CHAT BUT AS A SOURCE OF RELIABLE INFORMATION. THIS FOLLOWS AUTHORS LIKE SARAH SILVERMAN WHO SUED OPEN AI AND META-EARLIER THIS YEAR OVER SIMILAR CONCERNS RELATED TO HER BOOK. WE REACHED OUT TO THEM FOR COMMENT AND SO FAR WE'VE ONLY HEARD BACK FROM OPEN AI WHO SAID THAT THEY ARE "SURPRISED AND DISAPPOINTED" WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AND HOPEFUL THAT THEY WILL FIND MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL WAYS TO WORK TOGETHER. BREAKING IT ALL DOWN, HOW DOES THIS WORK? >> THEY ARE TAKING THIS GIGANTIC PILE OF COPYRIGHTED MATERIAL, TRAINING AI TO GENERATE CONTENT THAT WILL BE BASED ON THAT. I DON'T THINK THE DEFENDANTS WILL EVEN DISPUTE THE FACT THAT THEIR PROGRAMS ARE SCANNING OR SCOURING OR DIGESTING THIS HUGE SET OF MATERIAL, INCLUDING THE PLAINTIFF'S, THEIR CONTENT THAT THEY BEEN PUTTING OUT FOR I GUESS, CENTURIES. I DON'T THINK THAT'S IN DISPUTE. WHAT IS IN DISPUTE IS WHAT ARE THEY DOING WITH IT? THAT'S THE KEY. WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT, WHAT THESE COMPANIES ARE DOING IS EXACTLY WHAT WE DEAL. IN FACT, THE LEGAL STUFF I TALKED ABOUT, THE WORDS THAT COME OUT OF MY MOUTH ARMY READING COPYRIGHTED MATERIALS BY LAW PROFESSORS ON THIS TOPIC AND SPITTING IT OUT AS MY OWN WITHOUT CREDITING THEM OR PAYING THEM A DIME EVEN THOUGH I CONSUME YOUR COPYRIGHTED MATERIAL. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT AI IS DOING, THE THING THAT SCARES PLAINTIFFS LIKE THE NEW YORK TIMES IS THAT AI CAN CHURN OUT CONTENT AND IT CAN BE REMARKABLY CLOSE TO THE ORIGINAL CONTENT AND NOBODY WILL BE COMPENSATED. >> IT SOMETIMES VERBATIM, SO HOW IS THE COURT GOING TO BE QUESTIONING THAT? >> WHAT MATTERS IS THE OUTPUT. WHAT IS THE OUTPUT? IS IT IDENTICAL OR CLOSE? THEN YOU HAVE A PROBLEM. IF IT'S INSPIRED OR JUST DERIVATIVE, YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE A COPYRIGHT VIOLATION AND THEN YOU GET INTO SECONDARY ISSUES OF WHO IS REALLY DOING THE COPYRIGHT VIOLATION? THE PROGRAM OR THE HUMAN ASKING THE PROGRAM TO COMMIT A COPYRIGHT VIOLATION? YOU MAY NOT REMEMBER IT BUT WHEN I WAS A KID, BOOMBOXES WHICH ARE PROBABLY MADE UP MOSTLY FOR COPYRIGHT VIOLATIONS, BUT THERE ARE LAWFUL USES AS WELL, SO IT'S REALLY ABOUT IF THE USER, VIOLATOR, OR THE PROGRAM ITSELF, THE MACHINE. >> IT WILL BE FASCINATING AND THE WHOLE INDUSTRY SWINGS IN THE BALANCE. BACK THAT'S WHY, ULTIMATELY, WHETHER IT IS SAID OR NOT, IT'S ABOUT PROGRESS. PROGRESS, AI PROGRESS. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >>> WHEN WE COME BACK, FOUR MONTHS AFTER THE DEADLIEST WILDFIRE IN U.S. HISTORY. MANY PEOPLE IN LINE ARE STILL PICKING UP THE PIECES. FOLLOWING THE SEARCH FOR ANSWERS IN THE NEW DOCUMENTARY, NEXT. >>> NEW DETAILS AFTER TWO TORRES WERE STABBED IN NEW YORK >>> THE DEADLIEST WILDFIRE IN MODERN U.S. HISTORY, AND DEVASTATING THE COMMUNITY OF LAHAINA. IT'S BEEN FOUR MONTHS SINCE THE DISASTER AND PEOPLE THERE ARE STILL SEARCHING FOR ANSWERS. THESE WERE THE STUNNING AND TERRIFYING IMAGES THAT CAME OUT OF THE TRAGEDY THAT DARTED AUGUST 8th. HUNDRED PEOPLE DEAD AND MANY MORE DISPLACED OR HURT. THE FIRE ALSO CLAIMED 2000 ACRES OF LAND. IN THE NEW DOCUMENTARY, WE TALKED TO FIREFIGHTERS WHO ARE ON THE GROUND DESPERATELY TRYING TO FIGHT OFF THE FIRE IN THEIR OWN NEIGHBORHOODS. >> TRIED NOT TO DAMAGE BADLY SAW THAT DAY. >> IT IS STILL TOUGH TO GRIEVE FRIENDS, FAMILY, LOVED ONES. WE ARE STILL GRIEVING. >> TOM JOINS ME NOW. IN THE DOCUMENTARY, THE ORIGINS OF THIS FIRE, YOU SPOKE TO FIREFIGHTERS WHO SAY THERE IS NOTHING THAT COULD PREPARE. >> THEY REALLY WERE NOT PREPARED FOR THIS AND I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING THEY COULD HAVE DONE. THE FILM DOES EXPLORE THE QUESTION OF WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE AND DURING THE FIRE AND THE RESPONSE, COULD IT HAVE BEEN PREVENTED? SOME PEOPLE SAY DEFINITELY. COULD IT HAVE BEEN HANDLED BETTER? A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE CRITICIZING THE GOVERNMENT FOR THE WAY THIS WAS HANDLED AND AFTERWARDS AS WELL, EVEN IN REAL-TIME. YOU'LL SEE THE GOVERNMENT SAY THINGS THAT CLEARLY THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN SAYING OR DOING AND IT LEADS TO MORE QUESTIONS ON THE RESPONSE AND IF WHAT THEY DID LEAD TO MORE DEATHS. >> PEOPLE THERE ARE STILL WORKING TO RECOVER. >> TWO FIREFIGHTERS IN THIS DOCUMENTARY HAD SOME TIME TO SPEND WITH THEM AND THEIR FAMILIES AND WERE TELLING ME HOW TOUGH IT IS. THERE'S A LOT OF CONFUSION ABOUT WHERE KIDS ARE GOING TO GO TO SCHOOL AND WHERE THINGS ARE GOING TO BE DUMPED. EVEN JUST THE CLEANUP PROCESS RIGHT NOW IS TERRIBLE. YOU'LL HEAR FROM THE FIREFIGHTERS AND YOU'LL SEE VIDEO YOU'VE NEVER SEEN BEFORE, PEOPLE ESCAPING THE INFERNO AND THE REALITY THAT WERE ON THE GROUND, BODIES ON THE STREET AS PEOPLE WERE DYING OR PASSING OUT . ONE OF THE FIREFIGHTERS WE SPOKE TO TOLD US WHAT SHE SAW AND REMEMBERS, LOOKING OVER AT THE FIRE AND REALIZING THAT THEY HAD NO CONTROL. >> THIS IS IT. NOT EVEN 20 MINUTES LATER, I GO UP OVER THE HILL. I AM LIKE, HOW DID IT JUMP? IT ATE EVERYTHING IN ITS PATH. NOTHING CAN PREPARE YOU FOR THAT. NOTHING COULD HAVE PREPARED US FOR THAT MOMENT. >> IT'S BEEN NEARLY FIVE MONTHS AND REPORTERS IN HAWAII ARE REPORTING AT LEAST 1000 PEOPLE HAVE LEFT HAWAII ALTOGETHER BECAUSE OF THIS FIRE. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DO NOT FORGET ABOUT LAHAINA, THIS IS AN AMERICAN COMMUNITY AND I THINK THAT THIS WILL ASK A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND REMIND PEOPLE THAT WE CANNOT FORGET WHAT HAPPENED. >>> POWERFUL WORK. WATCH THE FULL DOCUMENTARY ON NBC NEWS.COM OR BY SCANNING THE QR CODE ON YOUR SCREEN. >>> TIME TO GET TO THE BACK STORY, A LOOK AT HOW A STORY COMES TOGETHER AND FITS INTO THE BIGGER PICTURE. WE ARE TAKING A LOOK AT A SERIES OF REPORTING BY SOME OF OUR OWN REPORTERS, FOCUSED ON FAITH AND POWER AND WHAT IT MEANS TO PROTECT KIDS. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT GRAPEVINE, TEXAS, JUST OUTSIDE DALLAS, WHERE THERE IS A WELL-FUNDED CAMPAIGN HAPPENING TO IMPOSE CONSERVATIVE BIBLICAL MORALITY PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND RESTRICT TRANSGENDER RIGHTS. HERE'S A QUICK LOOK. >> WE FOUND A TRANSGENDER CHILD JUST WANTING TO BE HEARD. >> A MOTHER, DETERMINED TO PUT GOD FIRST. >> WHAT SHE WROTE ME WAS THAT GOD MADE HER THE WAY GOD WANTED AND I SAID EXACTLY. >> A 27-YEAR-OLD TEACHER, CAUGHT IN THE MIDDLE. >> I BROKE DOWN CRYING IN THE HALLWAY, NOT OUT OF SADNESS, BUT I WAS TERRIFIED. >> THEY ARE NOT THE ONLY ONES IN A FIGHT FOR THIS IS HAPPENING ACROSS THE COUNTRY. YOU LISTENED TO A HEATED MEETING WHERE THIS MOTHER ACCUSED A TEACHER OF GIVING HER CHILD ACCESS TO INFORMATION THAT LED TO HIM CHANGING GENDERS. HOW DID THAT KICK OFF WHAT BECAME A YEAR-LONG INVESTIGATION? >> I WAS ACTUALLY IN BED LISTENING TO THAT MEETING OVER MY WIRELESS AIR PODS AND HEARD THIS MOTHER COME TO THE MICROPHONE AND BASICALLY ACCUSE A TEACHER OF CONVINCING HER CHILD TO CHANGE GENDERS AND HER PARTING WORDS, WERE I -- "I LOST MY SON BIT I WAS AT MY YOUNG CHILD ENDING IN WHAT LIBRARY BOOK OR CLASSROOM LESSON COULD DRIVE A WEDGE BETWEEN A PARENT AND A CHILD LIKE THAT? I TEXTED MY COLLEAGUE AND SAID, WE'VE GOT TO LOOK INTO THIS. THE RESULT IS THE GRAPEVINE SERIES, WHERE WE DIVE INTO THIS FIGHT, THIS FAMILIES GOAL TO PAINT A PICTURE ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN AMERICA RIGHT NOW. >> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS HARD ABOUT COVERING THESE STORIES IS HEARING FROM THE STUDENTS BEING AFFECTED BY THIS MOVEMENT BUT YOU AND THE TEAM GOT TO TALK TO RYAN, AT THE CENTER OF THE STORY. WHAT IMPACT DID THAT HAVE ON THE REPORTING YOU WERE ABLE TO DO? >> FOR THE LAST FEW YEARS WE'VE HEARD ACTIVISTS AND POLITICIANS CLAIMING THAT TEACHERS ACROSS THE COUNTRY ARE WORKING TO INDOCTRINATE KIDS TO GET THEM TO BECOME TRANSGENDER AND THAT IS WHAT THIS MOTHER ALLEGED. WHEN WE HEARD THAT COMMENT WE THOUGHT, HERE'S A CHANCE TO INVESTIGATE AND FIND OUT WHAT'S REALLY HAPPENING AND TO DO THAT WE HAVE TO TALK TO REN AND HER TEACHER AND HER FATHER WHO IS SUPPORTIVE AND WE FOUND A DIFFERENT STORY FROM THE ONE THAT'S BEING TOLD ACROSS THE COUNTRY, A MUCH MORE COMPLICATED STORY WERE TEACHERS AND STUDENTS, THE TEACHER WAS JUST OFFERING ENCOURAGING, A BOOK AND AGREEING TO CALL THE CHILD BY THE PRONOUNS THAT THEY WANTED TO BE CALLED BY. WE WERE COMPLICATING THE NATIONAL NARRATIVE THAT'S BEEN SPREADING OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. >> THIS BUILD ON A LOT OF THE REPORTING YOU BEEN DOING FOR A WHILE. THESE BATTLES OVER LGBTQ RIGHTS, RACE, AND DIVERSITY AND HOUSEHOLDS CAN TALK ABOUT ALL OF THAT. HOW ARE YOU SEEING THE LANDSCAPE OF THE SITE CHANGES AND YOU STARTED YOUR REPORTING? >> WHEN WE FIRST STARTED REPORTING ON THIS IN SOUTHLAKE, TEXAS THREE YEARS AGO, IT WAS ALL ABOUT RESTRICT AND CLASSROOM LESSONS ON RACE AND RACISM OVER WHAT CONSERVATIVES WERE CALLING CRITICAL RACE THEORY AND WHAT WE FOUND AND DOCUMENTED IN OUR PODCAST WAS A SHIFT IN THE MONTHS AND YEARS THAT FOLLOWED TO BE MUCH MORE EXPLICITLY IN ATTACK ON LGBTQ INCLUSION IN SCHOOLS AND THE OTHER PIECE OF THAT IS WHAT IS DRIVING THAT PUSH IS THIS CAMPAIGN TO IMPOSE CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIAN MORALITY IN SCHOOLS AND ONE IMPORTANT FACTOR, AND YOU'LL CATCH THIS IN THE PODCAST, THIS IS NOT JUST ABOUT LOCAL SCHOOLS. THIS IDEA OF PUTTING PRAYER IN SCHOOL AND ENDING THE SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE IN AMERICA, THAT'S A CENTRAL ISSUE. WE HAVE TO GIVE AN IDEA OF WHAT CHOICES ARE ON THE BALLOT. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. YOU CAN LISTEN TO THE FULL SERIES BY GOING TO OUR WEBSITE OR SCANNING THE QR CODE, ONE OF THE HARDEST TOPICS TO TALK ABOUT IN THE CONVERSATION ABOUT THE WAR BETWEEN ISRAEL AND HAMAS SUT THE PRESS. >> NEWS FOR THE GENERATION OF NOW IS NBC NEWS NOW. >>> NOW WE WANT TO BRING YOU TODAY'S ORIGINAL WITH IN-DEPTH REPORTING ON A TOPIC WE BEEN KEEPING AN EYE ON. IT HAS BEEN ALMOST 3 MONTHS SINCE THE START OF THE ISRAEL HAMAS WAR AND TENSIONS ARE STILL HIGH AT HOME WITH SO MANY FAMILIES TOGETHER FOR THE HOLIDAYS AT THE END OF THE YEAR, HOW DO WE TALK ABOUT THE WAR WITH THEM AND THEIR FRIENDS? IS IT OKAY TO DISAGREE WITHOUT HURTING SOMEONE WE LOVE? LIZ SAT DOWN WITH FOUR WOMEN, TWO OF THEM JEWISH, TWO OF THEM MUSLIM FOR AN HONEST DISCUSSION AND SOMETIMES DIFFICULT CONVERSATION HOPING FOR A PATHWAY TO PEACE IN THE NEW YEAR. >> IS ANYONE HERE NERVOUS TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION? >> YES. >> LATELY. >> WHY? >> IT ALWAYS FEELS LIKE IT'S NOT POSSIBLE TO DO IT ALL THE TIME. WHEN YOU GET IT RIGHT. >> THERE'S A LOT OF ANXIETY AROUND THIS BECAUSE IT'S THE HARDEST TOPICS TO TALK ABOUT AND I KNOW THAT EVERY SINGLE WORD I CHOOSE HAS THE POTENTIAL TO HURT SOMEONE I LOVE. >> IT'S ONE OF THE HARDEST CONVERSATIONS TO HAVE AND YET THESE FOUR WOMEN, TWO JEWISH AND TWO MUSLIM AMERICANS AGREED TO DO IT, TO SIT DOWN TOGETHER IN PARTNERSHIP WITH AN INTERFAITH GROUP CALLED NEW GROUND AND TALK FACE-TO-FACE ABOUT THE WAR IN ISRAEL AND GAZA . >> LET'S GO AROUND IN A CIRCLE AND HAVE EACH OF YOU TELL ME AN ADJECTIVE TO DESCRIBE HOW YOU'VE BEEN FEELING THE PAST TWO MONTHS. >> SHATTERED. >> LONELY. >> IN DEEP PAIN. >> NAUSEOUS. SICK TO YOUR STOMACH, TRULY, ALL THE TIME. IT'S HARD TO EAT WELL, IT'S HARD TO SLEEP. I HAVE AN EIGHT-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER. JUST HOLDING HER BRINGS ME TO TEARS. JUST A REMINDER OF THE FRAGILITY OF LIFE AND WHAT WE HAVE AND WHAT WE LOVE. >> A YEMENI AMERICAN, A PALESTINIAN AMERICAN, BOTH MUSLIM AND SITTING ACROSS IS RABBI-- AND ANDREA, BOTH JEWISH. A TABLE DIVIDED BY FAITH BUT BONDED OVER A SHARED HOPE FOR PEACE. >> WERE ANY OF YOU SURPRISED BY THE ATTACK ON OCTOBER 7? >> I WAS VERY SURPRISED AND STILL AM SURPRISED BY OCTOBER 7 AND I DON'T KNOW WHY I'M STILL SURPRISED BY THE REACTION TO OCTOBER 7. >> HAVE YOU BEEN WATCHING WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE WEST BANK BUT SETTLER VIOLENCE AND THE IDF, I COULD SEE THAT SOMETHING WAS GOING TO BLOW UP BUT I DIDN'T HAVE ANY IDEA IT WAS GOING TO BE WHAT IT WAS. >> I FELT LIKE I WAS PUNCHED IN THE GUT. THAT'S PART OF WHY IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO FIND A WAY THROUGH THIS. >> ONE THING THE WOMEN AGREE ON IS THE FEELING THAT THEY ARE FORCED TO CHOOSE A SIDE. >> I SEE THE CHILDREN IN GAZA, I SEE THE PEOPLE IN PALESTINE AND I FEEL THEIR PAIN AS WELL. THE QUESTION IS CAN WE HOLD MULTIPLE TRUTHS AND FEEL EACH OTHER'S PAIN? EVEN SAYING THIS OUT LOUD, AM I GOING TO BE SHUNNED? CANCELED FROM PEOPLE IN MY LIFE? >> FOR SAYING WHAT? >> JUST THAT, THAT I CARE ABOUT ALL PEOPLE. >> ANDREA, DO YOU FEEL THAT THERE IS A PLACE OR A SPACE TO CRITIQUE ISRAEL? >> DEPENDS ON WHAT ARENA YOU ARE IN. >> 0 SOME IDENTITIES AND THAT IS REALLY DANGEROUS. >> I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M FINDING HARDEST, WE ARE GETTING TO A PLACE WHERE I THINK HUMANS ARE READY TO LISTEN TO THE PALESTINIAN NARRATIVE AND I WANTED THAT SO MUCH BECAUSE I KNOW THAT IT'S WHAT JEWS NEED ALSO. >> I COULDN'T AGREE MORE, TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IS DIFFERENT THAN JUSTIFYING. >> FINDING UNDERSTANDING IS HARDER ONE HOLDS WERE DIFFERENT MEANINGS FOR DIFFERENT PEOPLE. TAKE FOR INSTANCE THE WORD ISRAEL. >> ISRAEL IS A LOT OF THINGS TO ME. I SEE THE CREATION OF ISRAEL AS A TRAUMA RESPONSE TO REAL TRAUMA. WHAT I'M GRAPPLING WITH IS THAT ISRAELI AND JEWISH ASPIRATIONS FOR SAFETY DO NOT HAVE TO COME AT THE COST OF THE OPPRESSION AND SUBJUGATION OF ANOTHER PEOPLE. AND THE ASPIRATIONS FOR SAFETY AND DIGNITY THAT THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE ASPIRE FOR THEMSELVES CANNOT COME AT THE COST OF THE OPPRESSION AND SUBJUGATION OF ANOTHER PEOPLE. >> WHEN I THINK OF ISRAEL I THINK OF MY GRANDPARENTS BECAUSE THEY SURVIVED THE HOLOCAUST AND THEY MOVED TO MANDATE PALESTINE AND THEY HELPED START THE STATE OF ISRAEL. IT'S WHAT SAVED THEM AND WHAT I KNOW SAVED MANY JEWISH PEOPLE. >> WHEN IT COMES TO MEDIA COVERAGE, AZIZA TELLS US SHE THINKS IT HAS BEEN SKEWED IN SUPPORT OF ISRAEL. >> SEEING IMAGES OF HOSTAGES AND HEARING STORIES ABOUT THEIR FAMILIES, AND IT FEELS LIKE IT IS MISSING ON THE COVERAGE PIECE, IS THAT PALESTINIANS DON'T HAVE--. MAYBE SOMETIMES THERE'S AN AGE OR AN OCCUPATION, BUT THE STORIES OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE TOTALLY MISSING. >> WE THEN MOVE ON TO THE PROTESTS TAKING OVER COLLEGE CAMPUSES AND A CHANT OFTEN HEARD AT PALESTINIAN RALLIES. >> WHEN I FIRST HEARD IT, IT MEANT THAT PEOPLE ARE OKAY WITH ISRAEL NOT EXISTING, IF I'M BEING HONEST. I WAS IT WASÃI WISH IT WAS NOT THE CHANT BEING CHANTED BECAUSE I THINK IT'S QUITE TRIGGERING TO HEAR. AND I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT MEANS. >> BUT FOR AZIZA WHO TELLS US SHE DOES NOT USE THAT, IT'S ABOUT UNDERSTANDING THAT IT'S HER PEOPLE'S HOMELAND, TOO. >> FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA ALL SHOULD BE FREE. BUT ALL SHOULD BE SAFE. >> THAT CHANT WORKS FOR ME. I JUST WANT TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU. I SO VALUE YOU AND APPRECIATE YOU AND FEEL LOVE FOR YOU AND FEEL YOU. >> I WANT TO SAY THAT TO YOU, TOO. >> A MOMENT OF COMPASSION AND UNDERSTANDING. >> WE CAN ALL CRY. >> TO FIGHT-- DESPITE DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES, THIS WOMEN SHOWING SHOWING THAT TRUE DIALOGUE AND AN OPEN MIND, THERE CAN BE COMMON GROUND. >> LIZ JOINS US NOW FROM LOS ANGELES. SUCH A POWERFUL CONVERSATION. HOW HARD WAS IT TO GET THESE WOMEN TO SIT DOWN TOGETHER AND WHAT DO YOU THINK THEY LEARNED AND HOPE OTHERS CAN LEARN? >> WE ARE SO GRATEFUL FOR DOING THIS. IT WAS NOT EASY TO GET THEM TOGETHER. OUR PRODUCER FIRST REACHED OUT A WEEK AFTER THE OCTOBER 7 ATTACKS AND IT TOOK UNTIL NOW FOR THE WOMEN TO FEEL COMFORTABLE ENOUGH TO DO THIS. EVEN SO, AT TIMES DURING THE CONVERSATION THEY WERE PRETTY GUARDED AND WORRIED THEY WERE GOING TO OFFEND THE OTHER BUT IN THE END IT WAS ACTUALLY REALLY HEARTWARMING TO SEE WHEN THEY WERE OUTSIDE THEY WANTED TO KEEP TALKING AND THEY DID, AND IT SHOWED ME, IT SHOWED THEM, AND HOPEFULLY OUR VIEWERS THE POWER OF LISTENING TO SOMEONE WHO THINGS DIFFERENTLY THAN YOU, THAT ULTIMATELY WE MAY ALL HAVE MORE IN COMMON THAN WE MIGHT THINK. >> LIZ KREUTZ, THANK YOU SO MUCH. >>> BECAUSE IT'S TOUGH TO WATCH, READ, AND LISTEN TO THEM ALL OUR TEAMS HAVE DONE IT FOR YOU. THIS IS WHAT IS GOING DOWN IN THEIR REGIONS, WHAT YOU CALL THE LOCAL. FROM THE NORTHEAST BUREAU, A MAN CHARGED WITH HATE CRIMES IN THE STABBING OF TWO TEENAGED GIRLS AT NEW YORK CITY'S GRAND CENTRAL STATION ON CHRISTMAS ACCORDING TO A BAIL APPLICATION. HE ALLEGEDLY USED AN ANTIWHITE SLUR AND THEN STABBED THE TEENAGERS WHO APPEARED TO BE WHITE. THE GROUP REPRESENTING THE SUSPECT DECLINED TO COMMENT. HE IS SET TO APPEAR IN COURT ON FRIDAY. THE TEENAGERS ARE EXPECTED TO BE OKAY. >>> ALSO OUT OF THE NORTHEAST BUREAU, OFFICIALS RESPONDING TO A CRASH IN NEW HAMPSHIRE ON CHRISTMAS NIGHT FOUND NONE OTHER THAN THE GRINCH BEHIND THE WHEEL. YUP, THE DRIVER WAS WEARING A FULL GRINCH COSTUME. POLICE SAY THE DRIVER APPARENTLY GOT DISTRACTED AND THE CAR WENT OFF THE ROAD AND CRASHED NEAR AN EVENT VENUE. OFFICIALS ARE INVESTIGATING. >>> FROM THE SOUTHERN BUREAU, DID THE GRINCH DO THIS? NO, IT WAS A THREE-YEAR-OLD IN NORTH CAROLINA WHO WAS A LITTLE NAUGHTY THIS CHRISTMAS. AT THREE IN THE MORNING HE UNWRAPPED HIS ENTIRE FAMILIES GIFTS.E BEST YEAR EVER WHEN IT COMES TO GIRL POWER. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THAT'S A WRAP FOR THIS HOUR. COVERAGE PICKS UP RIGHT NOW. >>> WE START TONIGHT, NO ESCAPE FROM GAZA AS ISRAEL CONTINUES TO RAMP UP THE ATTACK. REFUGEE CAMPS NOW POTENTIAL MILITARY TARGETS. WHY THE UN IS SAYING NO PLACE IS SAFE FOR CIVILIANS. THEN DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU ARE YOU MIGHT BE SEEING RAIN, SNOW, ICE, OR FOG. WE WILL TELL YOU WHAT IT MIGHT MEAN FOR TRAVEL AS MORE THAN 100 MILLION PEOPLE PLAN TRIPS HOME FROM THE HOLIDAY. >>> BEFORE WE WENT ON AIR, THE IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY INTO PRESIDENT BIDEN. WHAT THEY ARE ASKING FOR IN A LETTER JUST OBTAINED BY NBC NEWS. AND THEN A WIN IN COURT FOR FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP. WE WILL TELL YOU THE KEY STATE WHERE HE WILL BE ABLE TO BE ON THE PRIMARY BALLOTS. >>> NEW DETAILS ON A MIRACULOUS RESCUE. HOW A DRIVER TRAPPED FOR DAYS STAYED ALIVE AND THE ONE IN 1 MILLION STORY THAT LED TO HIS DISCOVERY. I AM IN TONIGHT FOR HALLIE JACKSON AND WE ARE COMING ON THE YEAR WITH THE UNITED NATIONS WARNING THAT THERE IS NOW, QUOTE, NO SAFE PLACE FOR CIVILIANS AS ISRAELI OPERATIONS EXPAND AND INTENSIFY ACROSS GAZA. GAZANS WHO FLED THEIR HOME AND CREDIT INTO SPRAWLING REFUGEE CAMPS FACING THE REALITY THAT THEIR SAFE HAVEN COULD BECOME A MILITARY TARGET. CITIES AND THE NEARBY REFUGEE CAMP ARE SEEING THAT PLAY OUT IN REAL TIME. LOOK AT THE SCENES FROM THE LOCAL HOSPITAL EARLIER TODAY. CHAOS ALL AROUND AS MORE PATIENTS STREAM INTO THE EMERGENCY ROOM. OFFICIALS IN GAZA SAY THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE KILLED SINCE THE WAR BROKE OUT HAS TOPPED 21,000. ISRAEL'S ARMY CHIEF SAID THAT THE WAR WILL GO ON FOR QUOTE, MANY MONTHS, UNTIL THEY ACCOMPLISH THEIR ULTIMATE GOAL OF DISMANTLING THE CONTROL OF HAMAS OVER GAZA, PART OF THE EFFORT, DESTROYING THE MASSIVE TUNNEL SYSTEM THAT LIES BELOW GAZA. NBC NEWS NOW GETTING A FIRSTHAND LOOK AT WHAT ISRAEL SAYS IS THE LARGEST TUNNEL THEY HAVE FOUND TO DATE. TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. IT IS SO BIG YOU CAN DRIVE A CAR THROUGH IT. >>> WE HAD TEAM COVERAGE WITH JAY GRAY, LET'S START WITH YOU. GIVE US PERSPECTIVE ON WHAT THIS EXPANDING OPERATION MEANS FOR MILLIONS OF CITIZENS LOOKING TO GET OUT OF HARM'S WAY. >> THE HOSPITAL SCENE THAT YOU SHOWED US, AIRSTRIKES AND ISRAELI AIRSTRIKES NEAR THE HOSPITAL LEFT AT LEAST 20 DEAD ACCORDING TO REPORTS ON THE GROUND. THE IDF IS EXPANDING GROUND OPERATIONS NOW TARGETING, THEY SAY, REFUGEE CAMPS IN CENTRAL GAZA CALLING THOSE AREAS, QUOTE, A NEW BATTLE ZONE. THE UN IS GRAVELY CONCERNED ABOUT THE SHIFT IN STRATEGY. THE FIGHTING IN CROWDED, URBAN AREAS ADDING TO PANIC AND CHAOS. THOSE AREAS ARE, AGAIN, DEALING WITH COMMUNICATIONS BLACKOUTS. NO CELL PHONES, NO INTERNET, THE IDF SAYING THEY HAVE STRUCK AT LEAST 100 HAMAS TARGETS OVER THE LAST 24 HOURS AND KILLED ONE SENIOR MILITARY LEADER. THE HAMAS RUN PALESTINIAN HEALTH MINISTRY SAYING MORE THAN 250 HAVE DIED IN THAT SAME PERIOD. >> WE ALSO HAVE GROWING TENSION TONIGHT BETWEEN ISRAEL AND THE AGENCY RESPONSIBLE FOR DISTRIBUTING AID TO GAZANS. ISRAELI OFFICIALS OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS MAKING PRETTY SERIOUS CLAIMS. TAKE A LISTEN. >> UNFORTUNATELY TO DATE THE UN AID MECHANISM HAS BEEN WOEFULLY UNSUCCESSFUL. IT SIMPLY IS NOT REACHING THE PEOPLE WHO NEED IT BECAUSE HAMAS HIJACKS IT AND IT IS COVERED UP FOR. >> DO WE KNOW IF THERE'S ANY VALIDITY TO THESE CLAIMS? HOW IS THAT GROUP RESPONDING TONIGHT? >> WE DO HAVE A RESPONSE FROM THE GROUP. WE WERE AT THE CROSSING A FEW DAYS AGO AFTER IT HAD INITIALLY OPENED ONE OF THE FIRST-- AND SAW TRUCKS BEING UNLOADED AND MOVING INTO GAZA. WE WERE TOLD THAT, AND I AM QUOTING HERE, NO FOOD SHORTAGE IN GAZA. WE ARE HEARING FROM THE AGENCIES INCLUDING THE UN SAYING THAT UNRW DELIVERS IT DIRECTLY TO PEOPLE IN NEED. UNRWA TRUCKS WITH UNRWA DRIVERS GO TO THE BORDERS AND PICK UP THE TRUCKS, UNRWA DRIVERS USING UNRWA CARS DELIVER THE AID TO UNRWA SHELTERS WERE UNRWA STAFF RECEIVE THIS, AND THEN DISTRIBUTE IT. WE WERE TOLD BY THE IDEA DURING OUR VISIT AND WATCHING SOME OF THE AID MOVE-IN THAT THERE SEEMED TO BE SOME TYPE OF DISTRIBUTION PROBLEM. AS YOU JUST SAW AND HEARD, THEY REALLY DISPUTE THAT SAYING THAT THEY ARE DOING EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO GET AID TO PEOPLE WHO DESPERATELY NEED IT RIGHT NOW. ONE OTHER QUICK NOTE. ON A GOOD DAY, 200 TRUCKS RIGHT NOW MOVE ACROSS THE BORDER AND INTO GAZA BEFORE THE WAR AND AS MANY AS 500 A DAY WITH FOOD AND OTHER SUPPLIES. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. LET'S GO TO JOSH LETTERMAN WHO IS GETTING A FIRSTHAND LOOK INSIDE WHAT ISRAEL CALLS THE LARGEST HAMAS TUNNEL IT HAS FOUND SINCE THE WAR BEGAN. >> EVER SINCE THIS WAR STARTED, ISRAEL HAS BEEN SAYING THAT HAMAS MOVED TO BUILD TUNNELS UNDERNEATH CIVILIAN INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE GAZA STRIP AND WAS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY IT IS SO DIFFICULT FOR ISRAEL TO CONDUCT THIS WAR WITHOUT POTENTIALLY PUTTING THE LIVES OF CIVILIANS IN DANGER. TODAY WE GOT A FIRSTHAND LOOK INSIDE WHAT ISRAEL SAYS IS THE LARGEST TUNNEL DISCOVERED DURING THIS WAR SO FAR. IT'S ABOUT 10' TALL WITH CONCRETE WALLS, IT IS ACTUALLY ABLE TO HAVE A CAR DRIVEN THROUGH IT BASED ON THE WIDTH AND THE FACT THAT THERE IS A DECLINING SLOPE FROM THE SURFACE OF THE EARTH INTO THIS TUNNEL. ISRAEL SAID THIS IS ONLY ABOUT A QUARTER-MILE FROM HE ISRAELI BORDER BUT THAT IT EXTENDS SOME 2 1/2 MILES INTO GAZA TOWARD GAZA CITY. NBC NEWS CANNOT INDEPENDENTLY VERIFY WHAT HAMAS WAS USING THE TUNNEL FOR, WHETHER IT WAS USED FOR MILITARY PURPOSES, OR HOW RECENTLY IT WAS INHABITED BUT NBC WAS INVITED TO TOUR THE TUNNEL BY THE IDF AS THEY ARE REALLY WORKING TO BOLSTER THEIR CLAIMS ABOUT HOW HAMAS, IN THEIR VIEW, HAS JEOPARDIZED THE SAFETY OF THEIR OWN CIVILIAN POPULATION. ISRAEL SAYS THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF THESE TYPES OF TUNNELS THROUGHOUT THE GAZA STRIP. THE ISRAELI GOVERNMENT NOW LOOKING FOR WAYS TO TRY TO DESTROY THESE TUNNELS EVEN AS THEY SAY GETTING EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM IS GOING TO BE A VERY DIFFICULT TASK BUT THEY SAY IT IS CRITICAL THAT ISRAEL BE ABLE TO ROOT OUT THE TUNNELS IF THEY WERE BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THEIR GOAL OF COMPLETELY ELIMINATING HAMAS. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >>> RIGHT NOW THE TOP DIPLOMAT OF THE US IS IN MEXICO WITH A MEETING FOR THE PRESIDENT OF THE COUNTRY HOPING TO CHARGE A - AS THE NUMBER OF MIGRANTS HEADING TOWARD THE SOUTHERN BORDER CONTINUES TO SEARCH. THE MEETING BETWEEN SECRETARY OF STATE AND LOPEZ COMING AS AN 8000 STRONG CARAVAN IS MAKING ITS WAY NORTH, RAISING FEARS THAT THE ALREADY OVERWHELMED IMMIGRATION SYSTEM WILL BE PUSHED TO THE BREAKING POINT. BORDER OFFICIALS SAY THEY ARE HITTING ALL-TIME RECORDS FOR HOW MANY PEOPLE THEY ENCOUNTER TRYING TO CROSS THE BORDER AS WELL AS 200,000 MIGRANTS TRYING TO GET INTO THE US EVERY MONTH. MORGAN CHESKY HAS MORE FROM TESCO-- TEXAS. >> WHAT A DIFFERENCE A WEEK MAKES BECAUSE IT WAS ON THIS VERY SPOT THAT E STOOD A WEEK AGO LOOKING INTO A FIELD OF FAMILIES DURING A PERIOD OF TIME THAT WAS BREAKING RECORDS FOR ILLEGAL CROSSINGS. TODAY, HOWEVER, WE ARE EXPERIENCING A BIT OF A LULL BUT THAT MAY NOT E LASTING LONG. WE DO KNOW THERE IS A CARAVAN THAT HAS BEEN SPOTTED IN THE SOUTHERN CITY OF MEXICO ABOUT 1000 MILES AWAY FROM WHERE WE ARE BUT ORGANIZERS SAY THERE ARE NOW 8000 STRONG COMPRISED OF MEN, WOMEN, AND CHILDREN SLOWLY BUT SURELY MAKING THEIR WAY NORTH AND IT IS GROUPS LIKE THAT THAT CERTAINLY HELPED PRECIPITATE THIS MEETING BETWEEN MEXICO'S PRESIDENT AND US SECRETARY OF STATE ANTONY BLINKEN. THE MEETING IS IN MEXICO CITY, BOTH COUNTRIES AGREEING THAT SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE SOONER THAN LATER TO HANDLE THE RECORD NUMBER OF MIGRANTS WE'VE BEEN SEEING. AMONG THE POTENTIAL TOPICS OF DISCUSSION, FINDING A WAY TO INCENTIVIZE MIGRANTS TO STAY IN MEXICO LONGER OR POTENTIALLY PERMANENTLY ONCE THEY LEAVE THEIR CENTRAL AMERICAN COUNTRIES OF ORIGIN. A POTENTIAL SOLUTION IS A WORK VISA THAT WOULD ALLOW THEM TO PROVIDE FOR THEMSELVES AND OR THEIR FAMILIES WHILE THEY ARE THERE INSTEAD OF RUSHING TO THE RIO GRANDE. BORDER SECURITY ANOTHER KEY ISSUE AS WELL. WE DO KNOW THAT PRESIDENT BIDEN HAS PROMISED ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR UPWARDS OF MORE THAN 1000 BORDER PATROL OFFICERS. MEXICAN AUTHORITIES ALSO SAY THAT THEY ARE PRESSED TO KEEP UP WITH THE NUMBER OF MIGRANTS WITH THE LAW ENFORCEMENT THAT THEY HAVE ON HAND. ESSENTIALLY NOTHING IS OFF THE TABLE FROM A SOLUTION STANDPOINT IF IT COULD POTENTIALLY HELP THE ISSUE THAT THESE COUNTRIES ARE FACING SIMULTANEOUSLY. WE KNOW THAT FROM THE MIGRANTS THAT WE'VE SPOKEN TO WHO HAVE MADE THAT JOURNEY, AS DANGEROUS AS IT HAS BEEN, AS LONG AS IT HAS BEEN, FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS IN CERTAIN INSTANCES, THEY SAY THAT IT'S ABSOLUTELY WORTH IT TO LEAVE THE DANGER OF THEIR HOME COUNTRIES BEHIND. WE WILL SEND IT BACK TO YOU. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. TONIGHT, MILLIONS OF AMERICANS FACING ALL KINDS OF MESSY WEATHER AS THE MIDWEST GETS SLAMMED BY A MIXTURE OF ICE AND SNOW AMIDST HEAVY RAIN AND FOG CAUSING LOW VISIBILITY ON THE ROADS. THEY ARE ALSO FACING THE AFTERMATH OF BLIZZARD CONDITIONS OVER THE LAST FEW DAYS. PLACES LIKE NEBRASKA AND NORTH DAKOTA NOW REOPENING MAJOR INTERSTATES AS THEY SHOVEL FEET OF SNOW. THOUSANDS STILL WITHOUT POWER. ALL OF THIS CAN MEAN TRAVEL PAIN, LIKE 115 MILLION PEOPLE ACROSS THE COUNTRY HEADING HOME BETWEEN CHRISTMAS AND NEW YEAR'S WHICH ACCORDING TO AAA AND OUR METEOROLOGIST IS WITH US. STANDING BY AT REAGAN NATIONAL AIRPORT, LET'S GO TO YOU FIRST. WHO IS GETTING THE WORST OF IT RIGHT NOW AND WHEN WILL FOLKS SEE SOME RELIEF? >> BACK TO THE MIDWEST THE MAJOR SNOWSTORM THAT BLIZZARD CONDITIONS ARE WINDING DOWN AND NOW IT'S ALL ABOUT THE RAIN FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS MOVING THROUGH THE MID-ATLANTIC. WE HAVE FLOOD WATCHES IN EFFECT FOR PARTS OF AND SLOVENIA IN PHILADELPHIA STRETCHING INTO NEW JERSEY AND ATLANTIC CITY. NOT BECAUSE OF A TON OF RAIN FALLING, BUT BECAUSE OF THE FLOOD THREAT FROM THE RIVERS OVERFLOWING. THE GROUND IS PRETTY SATURATED AT THIS POINT. YOU CAN SEE THE RAIN SLOWLY MOVING THROUGH THE EASTERN PORTION OF THE COUNTRY WHICH WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE UP INTO THE NORTHEAST AND EXIT NEW ENGLAND AS WE GO INTO THURSDAY AFTERNOON. ON THE BACKSIDE OF IT, IT'S COLD ENOUGH FOR SOME LIGHTER SNOW SHOWERS SO WAS ST. LOUIS WE WILL SEE SOME OF THAT SNOW INTO KENTUCKY, TENNESSEE, NORTHERN MISSISSIPPI AND ALABAMA WE WILL SEE SOME FLURRIES WHICH WILL BE INTERESTING AND FUN FOR THEM. AS FOR SNOWFALL TOTALS AS THE STORM PULLS AWAY IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE GOING TO SEE A LOT, AN INCH OR SO NEAR ST. LOUIS, HIGHER AMOUNTS ACROSS THE APPELLATIONS SO IT'S A MINOR EVENT MOVING THROUGH BUT AS WE LOOK AT THE RAIN WE ARE LOOKING AT 1 TO 2 " BEFORE ALL IS SAID AND DONE AND THEN FRIDAY STAYS A BIT UNSETTLED BUT GOING INTO THE NEW YEAR WE ARE LOOKING FOR SOME REALLY NICE WEATHER. SATURDAY MOST OF THE COUNTRY LOOKS REALLY NICE EXCEPT FOR THE WEST COAST WHERE WE WILL SEE A BIT OF RAIN MAKE ITS WAY ON SHORE. THAT WILL FIZZLE OUT AS IT MOVES EASTWARD BUT ON SUNDAY AS WE FINISH OFF THE YEAR IT LOOKS LIKE MOST OF THE COUNTRY WILL BE SEEING A GOOD AMOUNT OF SUNSHINE, SPOTTY SNOW SHOWERS AND WE ARE LOOKING AT COLD TEMPERATURES ACROSS THE PLAINS BELOW AVERAGE. MIDNIGHT IS REALLY FRIGID IF YOU ARE PLANNING ON SPENDING TIME OUTDOORS, THAT'S WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE INTO THE TEENS. SO VERY CHILLY EVEN BACK THROUGH THE MIDWEST AND AS WE GO INTO THE FIRST DAY OF 2024, MOSTLY CLEAR CONDITIONS FOR MANY AND WE ARE LOOKING FOR MUCH MORE SEASONABLE TEMPERATURES DROPPING BACK DOWN INTO THE 40s UP AND DOWN THE EAST COAST. STILL LOOKS PRETTY NICE WITH A MIXTURE OF SUN AND CLOUDS. WHILE WE FINISH OFF WITH THIS MESSY SYSTEM THINGS ARE LOOKING BETTER GOING INTO THE NEW YEAR. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. LET'S BRING IN JULIA. WHAT ARE YOU HEARING FROM TRAVELERS TODAY AND WHAT HAS BEEN DONE TO MAKE SURE THINGS GO SMOOTHLY FOR TRAVELERS AND ISN'T WORKING? >> WELL, HERE AT REAGAN NATIONAL WE CHATTED WITH TRAVELERS EARLIER TODAY THAT WERE PLEASANTLY SURPRISED THAT THEIR FLIGHTS WERE ON TIME, RUNNING SMOOTHLY. AS YOU MENTIONED, THAT IS NO ACCIDENT. I WAS HERE AT THIS AIRPORT A WEEK AGO WITH PETE BUTTIGIEG AND FAA ADMINISTRATORS WHO GAVE A LIST OF TANGIBLE ACTIONS THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON SINCE THE HOLIDAY TRAVEL DEBACLE OF LAST YEAR WHICH INCLUDES CLOSE COORDINATION WITH THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE, MAKING SURE THEY ARE ANTICIPATING POSSIBLE WEATHER DISRUPTIONS, OPENING MORE FLIGHT PATHS IN THE AIRSPACE DURING PEAK TRAVEL TIMES, AND ESPECIALLY THEY ARE WORKING ON COMMUNICATING CLOSELY WITH THE AIRLINES AND THE DAILY DIALOGUE BETWEEN THE FAA AND MAJOR AIRLINES HAPPENS BY THE HOUR DURING THESE PEAK TRAVEL TIMES. YOU SEE THAT WHEN WE FACE THESE DELAYS. THE BAD NEWS IS THAT EVEN WITH ALL OF THESE PRECAUTIONS, AIRLINES LIKE SOUTHWEST ARE SEEING MORE THAN 1000 DELAYS. IN THE LAST HOUR WE'VE SEEN AN EXTRA 500 DELAYS. WE ARE UP TO MORE THAN 5000 ACROSS THE NATION AND TRAVELERS ARE ON THE LUCKY END F THAT SPECTRUM BUT A BIG PART OF THAT IS BECAUSE THEY ARRIVED EARLY AND CAME PREPARED. HERE'S WHAT THEY HAD TO SAY. >> BE EARLY. BE ON TIME. SIT DOWN AND HAVE SOME BREAKFAST AND NOT BE SO STRESSED. >> A LOT OF PLANNING, A LOT OF GETTING ORGANIZED. I'VE GOT AN EIGHT-MONTH-OLD DAUGHTER SO A CAR SEAT, STROLLER, A BAG AND A LOT OF PREPLANNING BUT WE ARE ALL SET. >> FOR THOSE OF YOU STILL COZY AT HOME AND HAVE NOT TRAVELED YET, THE PEAK TRAVEL DAYS THIS WEEK ARE EXPECTED TO BE FRIDAY AND MONDAY NEW YEAR'S DAY. SO BE SURE TO KEEP SOME OF THOSE TIPS AS YOU HEAD TO THE AIRPORT THROUGHOUT THIS HOLIDAY SEASON. >> GOOD TO KEEP THOSE TIPS IN MIND. TO CAPITOL HILL, HOUSE REPUBLICANS ARE REVVING UP THE IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY OF PRESIDENT BIDEN BY GOING AFTER THE WHITE HOUSE DOCUMENTS ON HIS SON. THE HEADS OF THE OVERSIGHT AND JUDICIARY COMMITTEES ASKING FOR ALL COMMUNICATIONS SENT OVERSEAS BY EMPLOYEES OF THE EXECUTIVE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENTIAL OFFICE GUARDING THE DEPOSITION OF HUNTER BIDEN. IN A FEW WEEKS AGO HOUSE REPUBLICANS EXPECTED HIM TO COME UP AND TESTIFIED TO THEM PRIVATELY AND INSTEAD HE STOOD THEM UP SAYING HE WOULD ONLY TALK IN A PUBLIC SETTING. THE COMMITTEE CHAIRS ARE NOW FOLLOWING UP ON A PROMISE TO INVESTIGATE HUNTER'S NO-SHOW AND WHETHER THE PRESIDENT HIMSELF PLAYED A ROLE IN ENCOURAGING HIS SON NOT TO TESTIFY. RYAN NOBLES IS FOLLOWING THIS FOR US TONIGHT. WHAT OUR HOUSE COMMITTEES EXPECTING OR HOPING TO FIND, AND WILL THE WHITE HOUSE PLAY BALL HERE? >> WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO FIND IS SOME SORT OF DIRECT CONNECTION OR COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE WHITE HOUSE AND THE LEGAL TEAM THAT LED TO THE PRESIDENT HIMSELF SPECIFICALLY TELLING HUNTER BIDEN NOT TO COMPLY WITH THE SUBPOENA TO APPEAR FOR A DEPOSITION. THEY DON'T HAVE MUCH HARD EVIDENCE, INSTEAD PUBLIC STATEMENTS FROM MEMBERS OF THE WHITE HOUSE TEAM AND THE WAY THAT HUNTER BIDEN CONDUCTED HIMSELF. THAT'S WHY THEY'VE TAKEN THIS STEP OF ASKING FOR COMMUNICATIONS BETWEEN THE HUNTER BIDEN LEGAL TEAM AND THE WHITE HOUSE TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY SPECIFIC ADVICE BEING PROVIDED BY THE WHITE HOUSE COUNSEL'S OFFICE OR MEMBERS OF THE ADMINISTRATION INSTRUCTING HIM TO NOT COMPLY WITH THE SUBPOENA. THE FACT THAT THE PRESIDENT HAD ADVANCED AWARENESS THAT MISTER BIDEN WOULD DEFY THE COMMITTEE SUBPOENA RAISES A TROUBLING NEW QUESTION THAT WE MUST EXAMINE, WHETHER THE PRESIDENT SOUGHT TO OBSTRUCT PROCEEDINGS BY PREVENTING, DISCOURAGING, OR DISSUADING HIS SON FROM COMPLYING WITH SUBPOENAS. SUCH CONDUCT COULD CONSTITUTE AN IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE AND ITS PECULIAR THEY ARE RAISING ANOTHER POSSIBLE IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE AS THEY CONTINUE THIS INQUIRY INTO PRESIDENT BIDEN SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE THEY HAVE YET TO DISPLAY ANY HARD EVIDENCE THAT LINKS HUNTER BIDEN'S BUSINESS DEALINGS WITH THE PRESIDENT HIMSELF, ESPECIALLY ANYTHING THAT WOULD RISE TO THE LEVEL OF CRIMES AND MISDEMEANORS. AT THIS POINT THE WHITE HOUSE IS NOT COMMENTING ON THIS LETTER THAT WAS SENT ASKING FOR THIS INFORMATION AND WHETHER OR NOT THEY WILL SUPPLY IT REMAINS AN OPEN QUESTION. HOWEVER THERE HAS TO BE THIS TYPE OF COMMUNICATION THAT FITS THE BILL IN ORDER FOR THE WHITE HOUSE TO SEND IT OVER SO IT WILL LIKELY BE A LENGTHY BACK AND FORTH BEFORE WE GET ANY SORT OF RESOLUTION. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >>> RESIDENT TRUMP CLAIMING VICTORY AFTER THE SUPREME COURT DECLINED TO HEAR A CASE TO REMOVE HIM FROM NEXT YEAR'S PRIMARY BALLOT. THE OUTCOME VERY DIFFERENT IN THIS BATTLEGROUND STATE THAN WHAT WE SAW PLAY OUT IN COLORADO WHEN THE SUPREME COURT RULED TO REMOVE HIM FROM THE BALLOT. THE MICHIGAN SUPREME COURT SAYING IN THIS CASE IT WAS NOT QUOTE PERSUADED THAT THE QUESTIONS PRESENTED COULD BE REVIEWED BY THE COURT WRITING NOT LONG AFTER UNTRUTH SOCIAL THAT THE CASE WAS A FAILED, QUOTE, PATHETIC GAMBIT TO RIG THE ELECTION. TWO DIFFERENT RULINGS, THE SAME CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT, TWO DIFFERENT STATES. WHAT CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT WHY? >> THAT'S WHY THERE'S ULTIPLE COURTS AND THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT BECAUSE DIFFERENT STATES HAVE DIFFERENT LAWS AND IN THIS SITUATION, VERY MUCH SO THAT HAS TO BE DOING SPECIFICALLY WITH THE LAWS IN COLORADO AND MICHIGAN AS IT PERTAINS TO PRIMARY BALLOTS. IN THE STATE OF COLORADO IT'S UP TO THE SECRETARY OF STATE TO DETERMINE THE QUALIFICATIONS OF A CANDIDATE WHICH IS AT THE HEART OF THE DISQUALIFICATION CLAUSE AND WHETHER DONALD TRUMP AIDED OR WAS ENGAGED IN AN INSURRECTION. THEY DIDN'T EVEN TOUCH THIS AT ALL NOR DID THE LOWER COURTS THAT MADE THE INITIAL RULINGS. WHAT WE SHOULD EXPECT IS THE US SUPREME COURT, ONCE THE LEGAL TEAM APPEALS THE COLORADO RULING WE SHOULD EXPECT THE SUPREME COURT TO TAKE THIS UP FOR CONSIDERATION AND ULTIMATELY THAT RULING WILL NOT IMPACT JUST COLORADO, BUT MICHIGAN AND STATES AROUND THE COUNTRY. >> THEN WE HAVE SPECIAL COUNSEL JACK SMITH FILING A MOTION IN THE FEDERAL ELECTION INTERFERENCE CASE. WHAT IS THAT ABOUT? >> THIS COULD BE NOTABLE BECAUSE WHAT THE SPECIAL COUNSEL'S OFFICE IS SEEKING IS DURING THAT THREE-MONTH TRIAL, THEY ARE ASKING THE JUDGE TO BAR DONALD TRUMP AND HIS DEFENSE TEAM FROM ALLOWING THEM TO INTERJECT THAT SOMEHOW HE IS BEING POLITICALLY TARGETED OR THAT THIS IS UNFAIR PROSECUTION. THEY SAY THAT THEY DO NOT WANT TO TAINT THE JURY AND CONFUSE THE JURY OVER WHAT THEY ARE FINDING DONALD TRUMP GUILTY OR INNOCENT ON, AND DONALD TRUMP AND HIS LEGAL TEAM SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO THROW OUT THE IDEA THAT THIS IS PART OF DEEP STATE EFFORT TO TAKE HIM DOWN. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE CALENDAR, DONALD TRUMP IS RUNNING A CAMPAIGN, A POLITICAL CAMPAIGN THAT IS RUNNING PERPENDICULAR TO HIS LEGAL CAMPAIGN. JANUARY 15 IS THE IOWA CAUCUS, THE DEFAMATION CASE IS THAT FOLLOWING DAY AND THEN MARCH 4 IS THE FEDERAL ELECTION INTERFERENCE CASE SLATED TO BEGIN. YOU HAD THE POTENTIAL OF THE NEW YORK HUSH MONEY CASE AND THE MAR-A-LAGO DOCUMENTS CASE ALL AT THE SAME TIME E'S TRYING TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. THIS WILL BE AN INTENSE JANUARY, FEBRUARY, MARCH. I THINK COME APRIL WE WILL HAVE MORE CLARITY ON WHERE HE FINDS HIMSELF POLITICALLY AND LEGALLY. >> INTENSE TO SAY THE LEAST. COMING UP, AND UPDATE ON A MAN FOUND UNDER A BRIDGE DAYS AFTER HIS CAR CRASH IN INDIANA. WHAT WE ARE LEARNING ABOUT HIS RESCUE AND WHAT THE HOSPITAL IS SAYING TONIGHT. PLUS, THE FIRST LAWSUIT FROM A MAJOR MEDIA COMPANY AGAINST OPENAI. WHY THE NEW YORK TIMES SAYS >>> NEW DETAILS ON A MIRACULOUS RESCUE, A DRIVER IN INDIANA IS ALIVE AFTER BEING TRAPPED INSIDE OF HIS TRUCK FOR DAYS. WE ARE NOW LEARNING THIS MAN, MATTHEW REUM HAS HIT -- HAD HIS LEG MPT DID. HE IS STILL IN CRITICAL CONDITION. HE AND HIS FATHER-IN-LAW FOUND HIM YESTERDAY BY CHANCE. AUTHORITIES SAY TWO MEN WERE SCOUTING FISHING HOLES BUT FOUND A MAN IN HIS MANGLED CAR UNDER A BRIDGE AND SAIDÃAND SAID THEY CRASHED THE CAR AROUND DECEMBER 20. THE FISHERMAN DID NOT SPOT HIM UNTIL SIX DAYS LATER. HE WAS IN SUCH BAD SHAPE THE GUYS WHO FOUND HIM INITIALLY THOUGHT HE WAS DEAD. HERE'S WHAT ONE OF THEM TOLD US ABOUT APPROACHING THE SCENE. >> I WENT TO THE CAR, I LOOKED AROUND IT REAL QUICK, EVERYTHING WAS REALLY QUIET. THE AIRBAG WAS COVERING THE WINDOW. HE MIGHT'VE PUT IT THERE, HE MAY NOT HAVE BUT I HAD SEEN A HUMAN BEING THERE. IT SHOCKED ME AT FIRST BUT I WENT AHEAD AND TOUCHED HIM TO SAY WHO IS THIS PERSON AND WHAT CAN I DO HERE? BUT THE MOMENT I TOUCHED HIM HE TURNED AROUND. IT WOKE HIM UP. HE WAS OUT. SO I WOKE THEM UP AND HE LOOKED RIGHT AT E WITH HIS EYES WIDE OPEN. THE BIGGEST RELIEF YOU'VE EVER SEEN. >> JUST INCREDIBLE. REUM TOLD THE MEN HE COULDN'T REACH HIS CELL PHONE TO CALL FOR HELP AND NO ONE COULD HEAR HIM SHOUTING FROM THE CAR EITHER. POLICE SAY HE SURVIVED ON RAINWATER. >>> THE NEW YORK TIMES IS TAKING OPENAI AND MICROSOFT A COURT FILING A FEDERAL LAWSUIT AGAINST THE MAKER OF CHAT GPT OVER COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT. THE TIMES SAYS THAT MILLIONS OF ARTICLES PUBLISHED IN THE PAPER WERE USED TO TRAIN AUTOMATED CHAT BOTS THAT NOW COMPETE WITH IT AS A SOURCE OF RELIABLE INFORMATION. WHILE THE TIMES IS THE FIRST AMERICAN MEDIA ORGANIZATION TO SUE COMPANIES OVER COPYRIGHT ISSUES, IT FOLLOWS PEOPLE LIKE SARAH SILVERMAN WHO SUED OPENAI AND META-OVER SIMILAR CONCERNS RELATED TO HER BOOK. WE'VE REACHED OUT TO MICROSOFT AND OPENAI FOR COMMENTS AND SO FAR WE'VE ONLY HEARD BACK FROM OPENAI WHO SAYS IT IS SURPRISED AND DISAPPOINTED WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT AND HOPEFUL IT WILL FIND A MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL WAY TO WORK TOGETHER AS WE ARE DOING WHAT MANY OTHER PUBLISHERS DO. A LEGAL ANALYST APPEARED TO BREAK ALL OF THIS DOWN FOR US. DANNY, CAN YOU WALK US THROUGH THESE ALLEGATIONS? >> THE NEW YORK TIMES IS ALLEGING THAT THESE COMPANIES ARE BASICALLY ACCESSING THEIR ENTIRE BODY OF CONTENT THAT THEY HAVE PUT OUT THAT YOU NORMALLY HAVE TO PAY FOR, INGESTING IT AND USING WHATEVER FORMULA IT USES TO SPIT OUT OTHER CONTENT. THE KEY HERE IS WHETHER THAT CONTENT IS IDENTICAL OR VERY CLOSE TO THE NEW YORK TIMES CONTENT OR WHETHER IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS DERIVATIVE, DIFFERENT, MAYBE EVEN INSPIRED BY A PARTICULAR COLONIST AT THE TIME. BUT YET, DERIVATIVE BUT OT THE SAME WILL BE THE KEY TO THIS CASE. NOT WHETHER OR NOT THE COMPANIES ARE ACCESSING INFORMATION BECAUSE I THINK IT'S PRETTY UNDISPUTED THAT THEY ARE. >> NOT A LOT OF LEGAL PRECEDENTS HERE. IS THIS A CASE OF TECHNOLOGY OUTPACING THE LAW? >> NORMALLY I WOULD SAY YES AND THERE'S NO PRECEDENT FOR AI BUT I MIGHT ARGUE THAT COPYRIGHT LAW HAS ALWAYS ENVISIONED EXACTLY THIS. IN FACT IF YOU SUBSTITUTE AI FOR A REGULAR HUMAN, COPYRIGHT LAW ENCOURAGES THIS KIND OF BEHAVIOR, ENCOURAGES HUMANS TO READ AS MUCH AS YOU CAN WHICH IS WHAT COLLEGE IS, READ A BUNCH OF COPYRIGHTED MATERIAL, IN JUST IT AND SPIT IT OUT. SOME OF US ARE MORE DERIVATIVE THAN OTHERS. I AM DERIVATIVE, BASED ON EVERYTHINGÃI RACE EVERYTHING AM READING OTHER PEOPLE'S COPYRIGHTED MATERIALS AND THEN I SPIT IT OUT HERE ON SET AND I'M NOT CREDITING ANYBODY WHEN I DO IT. SO THE FACT THAT COMPUTERS ARE DOING IT, I THINK, IS SOMETHING THE LAW NEEDS TO WORK OUT BUT MAY HAVE BEEN PROVIDED FOR UNDER EXISTING COPYRIGHT LAW. >> WHICH WE DO YOU THINK THE COURTS WILL GO? >> NEW YORK TIMES AS TO LOSE FOR NO OTHER REASON THAN THE PUBLIC POLICY. IF NEW YORK TIMES WINS, AI GROWS WEAKER AND ON THE WHOLE, SOCIETY DOESN'T WANT WEEK AI. WE WANT STRONG AI. THAT'S MY PREDICTION. I'M USUALLY WRONG. >> WE WILL HAVE TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS. DANNY THANK YOU SO MUCH. >>> LET'S GET YOU OVER TO THE FIVE THINGS OUR TEAM THINKS YOU SHOULD KNOW ABOUT TONIGHT. NUMBER ONE, SOUTH KOREAN POLICE TELL NBC NEWS THAT THE ACTOR DIED IN AN APPARENT SUICIDE AT 48 YEARS OLD. HE WAS BEST KNOWN FOR HIS ROLE IN THE OSCAR A WINNING ROLE PARASITE. HE WAS BEING INVESTIGATED ON DRUG CHARGES AND SAID HE WAS IN'S-- INNOCENT. >>> POLICE IN BRAZIL SAY TAYLOR SWIFT FAN DIED OF HEAT EXHAUSTION AFTER COLLAPSING AT ONE OF THE CONCERTS. THE 23-YEAR-OLD PASSED OUT DURING THE SECOND SONG AT THE SHOW LAST MONTH AND DIED HOURS LATER AT A HOSPITAL. FANS IN THE CITY TOP-- TEMPERATURES IN THE CITY TOPPED 100 DEGREES AND CONCERT ORGANIZERS ACKNOWLEDGED THEY COULD'VE DONE MORE TO HELP FANS DEAL WITH EXTREME HEAT. >>> NUMBER THREE, THE FEDERAL BAN ON APPLE WATCH IMPORTS ALREADY PAUSED. WE TOLD YOU WHEN IT WENT INTO EFFECT. THE INTERNATIONAL TRADE COMMISSION HAD RULED SOME OF THE APPLE WATCH MODELS VIOLATED A BIOTECH COMPANY'S PATENT FOR TECHNOLOGY THAT READS BLOOD OXYGEN LEVELS THE ITC HAS TWO WEEKS TO FILE A RESPONSE. NEITHER APPLE NOR BIOTECH IMMEDIATELY RESPONDED TO A REQUEST FROM NBC FOR COMMENT. >>> A NEW REPORT FROM MASTERCARD SAYS RETAIL SALES IN THE US ROSE MORE THAN 3% BETWEEN NOVEMBER 1 AND CHRISTMAS EVE. ONLINE SHOPPING DROVE THAT INCREASE. IT WAS UP MORE THAN 6% COMPARED TO THE SAME TIME LAST YEAR. WHAT ARE PEOPLE SPENDING MORE ON? APPARENTLY THINGS LIKE CLOTHING AND EATING AT RESTAURANTS. >>> THE DETROIT PISTONS MAKING NBA HISTORY BECOMING THE FIRST TEAM TO LOSE 27 GAMES IN A ROW IN ONE SEASON. THE COACH SAYS NOBODY WANTS THIS KIND OF FAME. THEIR NEXT GAME IS TOMORROW AGAINST THE BOSTON CELTICS, THE TOP TEAM IN THE LEAGUE RIGHT NOW. >>> FOUR MONTHS AFTER THE DEADLIEST WILDFIRE IN US HISTORY, MANY PEOPLE IN MAUI ARE PICKING UP THE PIECES. TOM LLAMAS IS FOLLOWING THE SEARCH FOR ANSWERS. HE JOINS US NEXT. >>> NEW DETAILS TONIGHT AFTE >>> THE DEADLIEST WILDFIRE IN MODERN US HISTORY DEVASTATED THE COMMUNITY OF LAHAINA. WHILE IT HAS BEEN MORE THAN FOUR MONTHS SINCE THE DISASTER, EVEN TODAY PEOPLE THERE ARE SEARCHING FOR ANSWERS ABOUT WHAT EXACTLY HAPPENED. THESE WERE THE STUNNING AND TERRIFYING IMAGES THAT CAME OUT OF THE TRAGEDY THAT STARTED ON AUGUST 8. 100 PEOPLE DEAD AND MANY MORE DISPLACED OR HURT. THE FIRES ALSO CLAIMED OVER 2000 ACRES OF LAND. IN A NEW NBC NEWS DIGITAL DOCUMENTARY, TOM LLAMAS TALKED WITH FIREFIGHTERS WHO WERE ON THE GROUND DEFINITELY TRYING TO FIGHT OFF AN INFERNO IN THEIR OWN NEIGHBORHOOD. TAKE A LOOK. >> TRYING NOT TO THINK SO MUCH OF WHAT WE SAW THAT DAY. IT'S INCOMPREHENSIBLE. >> IT IS STILL TOUGH TO GRIEVE, YOUR FRIENDS, FAMILY, LOVED ONES, GRIEVE THE MEMORIES. WE ARE STILL GRIEVING. >>> TOM LLAMAS JOINS ME NOW. IN THE DOCUMENTARY YOU EXPLORE THE ORIGINS OF THIS FIRE. YOU SPOKE WITH FIREFIGHTERS WHO SAY THERE WAS REALLY NOTHING THAT COULD PREPARE THEM FOR THIS. >> WHEN IT COMES TO THE FIREFIGHTERS AND THE PEOPLE OF LAHAINA THEY WERE NOT PREPARED FOR THIS. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING THEY COULD'VE DONE BUT WHAT THE FILM DOES IS EXPLORE WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE THE FIRE AND DURING THE FIRE. COULD THE FIRE HAVE BEEN PREVENTED? THERE WERE PEOPLE THAT SAY DEFINITELY IT COULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED. COULD IT HAVE BEEN HANDLED BETTER? THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE CRITICIZING THE GOVERNMENT FOR THE WAY THAT IT WAS HANDLED BOTH TRYING TO GET PEOPLE OUT AND THEN AFTERWARDS AS WELL. EVEN IN REAL TIME THE GOVERNMENT SAYS THINGS THAT THEY CLEARLY SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN SAYING OR DOING AND IT'S GOING TO LEAD TO MORE QUESTIONS ON WHETHER THE RESPONSE AND WHAT THEY DID LEAD TO EVEN MORE DEATHS. >>> AID AND RELIEF ARE STILL HAPPENING ALTHOUGH PEOPLE ARE STILL WORKING TO RECOVER. WHAT DID YOU LEARN ABOUT THE RECOVERY? >> TWO FIREFIGHTERS IN THIS DOCUMENTARY WERE HERE IN NEW YORK AND TELLING ME JUST HOW TOUGH IT IS. THERE'S A LOT OF CONFUSION ABOUT WHERE KIDS WERE GOING TO SCHOOLS, WHERE THINGS ARE GOING TO BE DUMPED, EVEN JUST THE CLEANUP PROCESS RIGHT NOW IS TERRIBLE. IN THIS FILM YOU WILL HEAR FROM THE FIREFIGHTERS, ONE OF THEM YOU SAW A RIGHT THERE AND YOU WILL SEE VIDEO YOU'VE NEVER SEEN BEFORE OF PEOPLE ESCAPING THE INFERNO AND THE REALITIES THAT WERE ON THE GROUND, BODIES LAID OUT ON THE STREET BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE DYING AND PASSING OUT BECAUSE OF THE SMOKE AND THE FLAMES. ONE OF THE FIREFIGHTERS THAT WE SPOKE TO TOLD US WHAT SHE SAW AND WHAT SHE REMEMBERS. LOOKING OVER AT THE FIRE AND REALIZING THEY HAD NO CONTROL OVER THIS. >> THIS IS IT. IT CAN'T GET WORSE THAN THIS. 320 MINUTES LATER I GO OVER THE HILL AND HOW DID IT JUMP AND EAT EVERYTHING IN ITS PATH? NOTHING CAN PREPARE YOU FOR THAT . NOTHING COULD'VE PREPARED US FOR THAT MOMENT. >> IT HAS BEEN NEARLY 5 MONTHS AND REPORTERS IN HAWAII REPORT AT LEAST 1000 PEOPLE HAVE LEFT NOT JUST MAUI BUT HAWAII ALTOGETHER. WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T FORGET ABOUT LAHAINA. THIS IS AN AMERICAN COMMUNITY AND I THINK THIS FILM WILL ASK A LOT OF QUESTIONS BUT ALSO REMIND PEOPLE THAT WE CAN'T FORGET ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED THERE. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. REALLY POWERFUL WORK. YOU CAN WATCH THE FULL DOCUMENTARY, IN THE ASHES. FIREFIGHTERS, VICTIMS AND SURVIVORS OF THE DEADLIEST INFERNO ON NBC NEWS.COM OR BY SCANNING THE QR CODE THAT YOU SEE ON YOUR SCREEN. >>> TIME TO GET TO THE BACK STORY, A BEHIND-THE-SCENES LOOK AT HOW A STORY COMES TOGETHER AND HOW IT FITS INTO THE BIGGER PICTURE. WE ARE TAKING A LOOK AT A SERIES OF REPORTING BY SOME OF OUR OWN REPORTERS FOCUSED ON FAITH AND POWER AND WHAT IT MEANS TO PROTECT KIDS IN ONE TEXAS SUBURB. TALKING ABOUT GRAPEVINE TEXAS LOCATED JUST OUTSIDE A DALLAS SUBURB WHERE THERE'S A WELL- FUNDED CAMPAIGN HAPPENING TO IMPOSE CONSERVATIVE LOCAL-- BIBLICAL MORALITY IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS. HERE'S A LOOK AT ONE STORY. >>> WE FOUND A TRANSGENDER CHILD JUST WANTING TO BE HEARD. >> I WISH YOU WOULD STOP BUT SHE DOESN'T LISTEN. >> A MOTHER DETERMINED TO PUT GOD FIRST. >> WHAT SHE WROTE ME WAS, GOD MADE RAND THE WAY GOD WANTED RAND, AND I ANSWERED BACK EXACTLY. >> AND A 27-YEAR-OLD TEACHER CAUGHT IN THE MIDDLE. >> I BROKE DOWN CRYING IN THE HALLWAY AND IT WAS TEARS NOT OF SADNESS, BUT TERRIFY-- TERRIFIED. >> BUT IT'S A FIGHT THAT WE ARE SEEING HAPPENING ACROSS THE COUNTRY IN LOTS OF COMMUNITIES. MIKE, YOU LISTENED TO A HEATED SCHOOL BOARD MEETING IN AUGUST 2022 WHERE THIS MOTHER THAT WE HEARD ABOUT IN THAT CLIP ACCUSED A TEACHER OF GIVING HER CHILD ACCESS TO INFORMATION THAT LED TO THE TEENAGER CHANGING GENDERS. HOW DID THAT KICKOFF WHAT BECAME A YEAR-LONG INVESTIGATION? >> I WAS LAYING IN BED LISTENING TO THAT MEETING OVER MY WIRELESS AIR PODS AND I HEARD THIS MOTHER COME TO THE MICROPHONE AND BASICALLY ACCUSE A TEACHER OF CONVINCING A CHILD TO CHANGE GENDERS AND HER PARTING WORDS WERE, I LOST MY SON. I WAS WITH MY OWN YOUNG CHILD THINKING WHAT LIBRARY BOOK OR CLASSROOM LESSON COULD DRIVE A WEDGE BETWEEN A PARENT AND A CHILD LIKE THAT? SO I TEXTED MY COLLEAGUE AND SAID WE'VE GOT TO LOOK INTO THIS. THE RESULT IS THE PODCAST GRAPEVINE, A SIX PART SERIES THAT YOU PLAYED A CLIP FROM WHERE WE DIVE INTO THE FIGHT AND STRUGGLE TO PAINT A PICTURE ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING IN AMERICA RIGHT NOW. >> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS HARD ABOUT COVERING THESE TYPES OF STORIES IS HEARING FROM STUDENTS BEING AFFECTED BY THIS MOVEMENT. BUT FOR THIS SERIES YOU AND THE TEAM TALK TO GOT TO RAND WHO IS AT THE CENTER OF THE STORY. HOW DID THAT COME ABOUT AND WHAT IMPACT DID IT HAVE ON THE REPORTING YOU WERE ABLE TO DO? >> FOR THE LAST FEW YEARS WE'VE HEARD CONSERVATIVE ACTIVISTS AND POLITICIANS LIKE RON DESANTIS CLAIMING THAT TEACHERS ACROSS THE COUNTRY ARE WORKING TO INDOCTRINATE KIDS AND GET THEM TO BECOME TRENDS, ESSENTIALLY AND THAT'S WHAT THIS MOTHER ALLEGED. WHEN ANTONIA AND I HEARD THE COMMENT WE THOUGHT, HERE'S A CHANCE TO INVESTIGATE AND FIND OUT WHAT'S REALLY HAPPENING. TO DO THAT WE HAD TO TALK TO WREN AND TALK TO HER FATHER WHO IS SUPPORTIVE AND WE FOUND A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT STORY THAN THE ONE THAT IS BEING TOLD ACROSS THE COUNTRY, A MUCH MORE COMPLICATED STORY WHERE A TEACHER IS NOT CONVINCING A CHILD TO CHANGE GENDERS. IN THIS CASE THE TEACHER WAS JUST OFFERING AN ENCOURAGING BOOK AND AGREEING TO CALL THE CHILD BY THE PRONOUNS THAT WREN WANTED TO BE CALLED BY. SO WE WERE COMPLICATING THE NATIONAL NARRATIVE THAT HAS REALLY BEEN SPREADING OVER THE LAST TWO OR THREE YEARS IN THIS COUNTRY. >> AND IT BUILDS ON A LOT OF THE REPORTING THAT YOU'VE BEEN DOING FOR A WHILE NOW. THE BATTLES OVER LGBTQ RIGHTS, RACE AND DIVERSITY AND HOW SCHOOLS CAN TALK ABOUT IT ALL. HOW HAVE YOU SEEN THE LANDSCAPE OF THESE FIGHTS BETWEEN PARENTS, POLITICIANS, SCHOOL OFFICIALS, AND STUDENTS CHANGED SINCE YOU STARTED REPORTING? >> WHEN ANTONIA AND I FIRST STARTED REPORTING ON THIS IN THE NEIGHBORING TOWN OF SOUTHLAKE TEXAS THREE YEARS AGO IT WAS ALL ABOUT RESTRICTING CLASSROOM LESSONS ON RACE AND RACISM OR WHAT CONSERVATIVES AT THAT TIME RECALLING CRITICAL RACE THEORY. WHAT WE FOUND AND DOCUMENTED IN THE PODCAST WAS THAT THERE WAS A SHIFT IN THE MONTHS AND YEARS THAT FOLLOWED TO BE MUCH MORE EXPLICITLY AND ATTACK ON LGBTQ INCLUSION IN SCHOOLS AND THE OTHER PIECE OF THAT IS WHAT IS DRIVING THE PUSH IS THIS CAMPAIGN TO IMPOSE CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIAN MORALITY IN SCHOOLS. ONE IMPORTANT FACTOR AND WE WILL CATCH THIS WHEN WE LISTEN TO THE PODCAST IS, THIS IS NOT JUST ABOUT LOCAL SCHOOLS OR ONE TOWN. THIS IDEA OF PUTTING PRAYER IN SCHOOL AND ENDING SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE, THAT'S GOING TO BE A CENTRAL ISSUE IN THE 2024 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION. BY TELLING THE STORY OF GRAPEVINE WE WERE REALLY, I THINK, TRYING TO GIVE PEOPLE AN IDEA OF WHAT CHOICES ARE ON THE BALLOT HEADING INTO 2024. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. YOU CAN LISTEN TO THE FULL SERIES BY GOING ON NBC NEWS.COM OR SCANNING THE QR CODE THAT YOU SEE ON YOUR SCREEN. >>> COMING UP, FOUR WOMEN, TWO JEWISH AND TWO MUSLIM OPENING UP ABOUT WHAT THEY SAY IS ONE OF THE HARDEST TOPICS TO TALK ABOUT. THE CONVERSATION ABOUT THE WAR BETWEEN SUNDAY, IT'S MEET THE PRESS. >> NEWS FOR THE GENERATION OF NOW IS NBC NEWS NOW. >>> NOW WE WANT TO BRING YOU TODAY'S ORIGINAL WITH IN-DEPTH REPORTING ON A TOPIC WE BEEN KEEPING AN EYE ON. IT HAS BEEN ALMOST 3 MONTHS SINCE THE START OF THE ISRAEL HAMAS WAR AND TENSIONS ARE STILL HIGH AT HOME WITH SO MANY FAMILIES TOGETHER FOR THE HOLIDAYS AT THE END OF THE YEAR, HOW DO WE TALK ABOUT THE WAR WITH THEM AND THEIR FRIENDS? IS IT OKAY TO DISAGREE WITHOUT HURTING SOMEONE WE LOVE? LIZ SAT DOWN WITH FOUR WOMEN, TWO OF THEM JEWISH, TWO OF THEM MUSLIM FOR AN HONEST DISCUSSION AND SOMETIMES DIFFICULT CONVERSATION HOPING FOR A PATHWAY TO PEACE IN THE NEW YEAR. >> IS ANYONE HERE NERVOUS TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION? >> YES. >> LATELY. >> WHY? >> IT ALWAYS FEELS LIKE IT'S NOT POSSIBLE TO DO IT ALL THE TIME. WHEN YOU GET IT RIGHT. >> THERE'S A LOT OF ANXIETY AROUND THIS BECAUSE IT'S THE HARDEST TOPICS TO TALK ABOUT AND I KNOW THAT EVERY SINGLE WORD I CHOOSE HAS THE POTENTIAL TO HURT SOMEONE I LOVE. >> IT'S ONE OF THE HARDEST CONVERSATIONS TO HAVE AND YET THESE FOUR WOMEN, TWO JEWISH AND TWO MUSLIM AMERICANS AGREED TO DO IT, TO SIT DOWN TOGETHER IN PARTNERSHIP WITH AN INTERFAITH GROUP CALLED NEW GROUND AND TALK FACE-TO-FACE ABOUT THE WAR IN ISRAEL AND GAZA . >> LET'S GO AROUND IN A CIRCLE AND HAVE EACH OF YOU TELL ME AN ADJECTIVE TO DESCRIBE HOW YOU'VE BEEN FEELING THE PAST TWO MONTHS. >> SHATTERED. >> LONELY. >> IN DEEP PAIN. >> NAUSEOUS. SICK TO YOUR STOMACH, TRULY, ALL THE TIME. IT'S HARD TO EAT WELL, IT'S HARD TO SLEEP. I HAVE AN EIGHT-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER. JUST HOLDING HER BRINGS ME TO TEARS. JUST A REMINDER OF THE FRAGILITY OF LIFE AND WHAT WE HAVE AND WHAT WE LOVE. >> A YEMENI AMERICAN, A PALESTINIAN AMERICAN, BOTH MUSLIM AND SITTING ACROSS IS RABBI-- AND ANDREA, BOTH JEWISH. A TABLE DIVIDED BY FAITH BUT BONDED OVER A SHARED HOPE FOR PEACE. >> WERE ANY OF YOU SURPRISED BY THE ATTACK ON OCTOBER 7? >> I WAS VERY SURPRISED AND STILL AM SURPRISED BY OCTOBER 7 AND I DON'T KNOW WHY I'M STILL SURPRISED BY THE REACTION TO OCTOBER 7. >> HAVE YOU BEEN WATCHING WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE WEST BANK BUT SETTLER VIOLENCE AND THE IDF, I COULD SEE THAT SOMETHING WAS GOING TO BLOW UP BUT I DIDN'T HAVE ANY IDEA IT WAS GOING TO BE WHAT IT WAS. >> I FELT LIKE I WAS PUNCHED IN THE GUT. THAT'S PART OF WHY IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO FIND A WAY THROUGH THIS. >> ONE THING THE WOMEN AGREE ON IS THE FEELING THAT THEY ARE FORCED TO CHOOSE A SIDE. >> I SEE THE CHILDREN IN GAZA, I SEE THE PEOPLE IN PALESTINE AND I FEEL THEIR PAIN AS WELL. THE QUESTION IS CAN WE HOLD MULTIPLE TRUTHS AND FEEL EACH OTHER'S PAIN? EVEN SAYING THIS OUT LOUD, AM I GOING TO BE SHUNNED? CANCELED FROM PEOPLE IN MY LIFE? >> FOR SAYING WHAT? >> JUST THAT, THAT I CARE ABOUT ALL PEOPLE. >> ANDREA, DO YOU FEEL THAT THERE IS A PLACE OR A SPACE TO CRITIQUE ISRAEL? >> DEPENDS ON WHAT ARENA YOU ARE IN. >> 0 SOME IDENTITIES AND THAT IS REALLY DANGEROUS. >> I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M FINDING HARDEST, WE ARE GETTING TO A PLACE WHERE I THINK HUMANS ARE READY TO LISTEN TO THE PALESTINIAN NARRATIVE AND I WANTED THAT SO MUCH BECAUSE I KNOW THAT IT'S WHAT JEWS NEED ALSO. >> I COULDN'T AGREE MORE, TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IS DIFFERENT THAN JUSTIFYING. >> FINDING UNDERSTANDING IS HARDER ONE HOLDS WERE DIFFERENT MEANINGS FOR DIFFERENT PEOPLE. TAKE FOR INSTANCE THE WORD ISRAEL. >> ISRAEL IS A LOT OF THINGS TO ME. I SEE THE CREATION OF ISRAEL AS A TRAUMA RESPONSE TO REAL TRAUMA. WHAT I'M GRAPPLING WITH IS THAT ISRAELI AND JEWISH ASPIRATIONS FOR SAFETY DO NOT HAVE TO COME AT THE COST OF THE OPPRESSION AND SUBJUGATION OF ANOTHER PEOPLE. AND THE ASPIRATIONS FOR SAFETY AND DIGNITY THAT THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE ASPIRE FOR THEMSELVES CANNOT COME AT THE COST OF THE OPPRESSION AND SUBJUGATION OF ANOTHER PEOPLE. >> WHEN I THINK OF ISRAEL I THINK OF MY GRANDPARENTS BECAUSE THEY SURVIVED THE HOLOCAUST AND THEY MOVED TO MANDATE PALESTINE AND THEY HELPED START THE STATE OF ISRAEL. IT'S WHAT SAVED THEM AND WHAT I KNOW SAVED MANY JEWISH PEOPLE. >> WHEN IT COMES TO MEDIA COVERAGE, AZIZA TELLS US SHE THINKS IT HAS BEEN SKEWED IN SUPPORT OF ISRAEL. >> SEEING IMAGES OF HOSTAGES AND HEARING STORIES ABOUT THEIR FAMILIES, AND IT FEELS LIKE IT IS MISSING ON THE COVERAGE PIECE, IS THAT PALESTINIANS DON'T HAVE--. MAYBE SOMETIMES THERE'S AN AGE OR AN OCCUPATION, BUT THE STORIES OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE TOTALLY MISSING. >> WE THEN MOVE ON TO THE PROTESTS TAKING OVER COLLEGE CAMPUSES AND A CHANT OFTEN HEARD AT PALESTINIAN RALLIES. >> WHEN I FIRST HEARD IT, IT MEANT THAT PEOPLE ARE OKAY WITH ISRAEL NOT EXISTING, IF I'M BEING HONEST. I WAS IT WASÃI WISH IT WAS NOT THE CHANT BEING CHANTED BECAUSE I THINK IT'S QUITE TRIGGERING TO HEAR. AND I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT MEANS. >> BUT FOR AZIZA WHO TELLS US SHE DOES NOT USE THAT, IT'S ABOUT UNDERSTANDING THAT IT'S HER PEOPLE'S HOMELAND, TOO. >> FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA ALL SHOULD BE FREE. BUT ALL SHOULD BE SAFE. >> THAT CHANT WORKS FOR ME. I JUST WANT TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU. I SO VALUE YOU AND APPRECIATE YOU AND FEEL LOVE FOR YOU AND FEEL YOU. >> I WANT TO SAY THAT TO YOU, TOO. >> A MOMENT OF COMPASSION AND UNDERSTANDING. >> WE CAN ALL CRY. >> TO FIGHT-- DESPITE DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES, THIS WOMEN SHOWING SHOWING THAT TRUE DIALOGUE AND AN OPEN MIND, THERE CAN BE COMMON GROUND. >> LIZ JOINS US NOW FROM LOS ANGELES. SUCH A POWERFUL CONVERSATION. HOW HARD WAS IT TO GET THESE WOMEN TO SIT DOWN TOGETHER AND WHAT DO YOU THINK THEY LEARNED AND HOPE OTHERS CAN LEARN? >> WE ARE SO GRATEFUL FOR DOING THIS. IT WAS NOT EASY TO GET THEM TOGETHER. OUR PRODUCER FIRST REACHED OUT A WEEK AFTER THE OCTOBER 7 ATTACKS AND IT TOOK UNTIL NOW FOR THE WOMEN TO FEEL COMFORTABLE ENOUGH TO DO THIS. EVEN SO, AT TIMES DURING THE CONVERSATION THEY WERE PRETTY GUARDED AND WORRIED THEY WERE GOING TO OFFEND THE OTHER BUT IN THE END IT WAS ACTUALLY REALLY HEARTWARMING TO SEE WHEN THEY WERE OUTSIDE THEY WANTED TO KEEP TALKING AND THEY DID, AND IT SHOWED ME, IT SHOWED THEM, AND HOPEFULLY OUR VIEWERS THE POWER OF LISTENING TO SOMEONE WHO THINGS DIFFERENTLY THAN YOU, THAT ULTIMATELY WE MAY ALL HAVE MORE IN COMMON THAN WE MIGHT THINK. >> LIZ KREUTZ, THANK YOU SO MUCH. >>> BECAUSE IT'S TOUGH TO WATCH, READ, AND LISTEN TO THEM ALL OUR TEAMS HAVE DONE IT FOR YOU. THIS IS WHAT IS GOING DOWN IN THEIR REGIONS, WHAT YOU CALL THE LOCAL. FROM THE NORTHEAST BUREAU, A MAN CHARGED WITH HATE CRIMES IN THE STABBING OF TWO TEENAGED GIRLS AT NEW YORK CITY'S GRAND CENTRAL STATION ON CHRISTMAS ACCORDING TO A BAIL APPLICATION. HE ALLEGEDLY USED AN ANTIWHITE SLUR AND THEN STABBED THE TEENAGERS WHO APPEARED TO BE WHITE. THE GROUP REPRESENTING THE SUSPECT DECLINED TO COMMENT. HE IS SET TO APPEAR IN COURT ON FRIDAY. THE TEENAGERS ARE EXPECTED TO BE OKAY. >>> ALSO OUT OF THE NORTHEAST BUREAU, OFFICIALS RESPONDING TO A CRASH IN NEW HAMPSHIRE ON CHRISTMAS NIGHT FOUND NONE OTHER THAN THE GRINCH BEHIND THE WHEEL. YUP, THE DRIVER WAS WEARING A FULL GRINCH COSTUME. POLICE SAY THE DRIVER APPARENTLY GOT DISTRACTED AND THE CAR WENT OFF THE ROAD AND CRASHED NEAR AN EVENT VENUE. OFFICIALS ARE INVESTIGATING. >>> FROM THE SOUTHERN BUREAU, DID THE GRINCH DO THIS? NO, IT WAS A THREE-YEAR-OLD IN NORTH CAROLINA WHO WAS A LITTLE NAUGHTY THIS CHRISTMAS. AT THREE IN THE MORNING HE UNWRAPPED HIS ENTIRE FAMILIES GIFTS.GHT BE THE BEST DAY EVER WHEN IT COMES TO GIRL POWER. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
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Channel: NBC News
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Length: 95min 36sec (5736 seconds)
Published: Thu Dec 28 2023
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