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extremism I don't care if it's dietary extremism I don't care for spiritual extremism political extremism ideological extremism religious extremism it never works in the long run because the average human being isn't equipped or interested or has the motivation or effort to live an extreme life so if we want to bring veganism and vegetarianism for African people let's do it in a very realistic practical impatient fashion let's get away from now all enough in proposition because we're going to lose more than we get hi I'm Ellen and I'm Cal D we have the privilege of talking today with one of the great advocates for our black people doc dr. Umar Johnson I'd like you to start by first of all telling us a little bit about yourself not as if everybody doesn't know you already but just to give a little background no certainly I'm dr. Umar Johnson doctor of clinical psychology a certified school psychologist certified school principal I'm also a political scientist a blood relative of the great Frederick Douglass a former Minister of Education for Marcus Garvey's universal Negro Improvement Association author of the book psycho academic Holocaust of the special education and ADHD Wars against black boys I'm a private practice in school psychologists where I value eight children in an effort to keep them out of special ed away from ADHD and off of the dangerous psychiatric medications founder of a movement the National independent black parent association where we try to organize black parents to fight to protect their children in school and I'm currently I'm in the middle of an effort to raise two million dollars to purchase the st. Paul's College a historically black college in Virginia that we want to re Chris it into the Frederick Douglass and Marcus Garvey Academy does that going to be a charter school basis not independent Linden charter schools are still public schools by law and we really don't want the local or state Department of Education dictating our curriculum and our school culture so it's going to be independent of course it's going to be tougher that way because that means there's no outside money but we believe is pan-africanist and Garvey is that what is to be done for black people must be done by black people tell us a little bit about the curriculum at the school and why shut in but give it to us in baby steps I got so hmm right now the dominant narrative of public education in America is to prepare children to go to college okay schools exist to get your child into college right for African children that's not a worthy goal because college doesn't guarantee opportunity and so it doesn't even guarantee a child right we have to do better than that College is sitting black people into debt for lifelong poverty in the form of student loans we have to prepare our children not for college but for economic self development so at the Frederick Douglass Marcus Garvey Academy our children will be trained in at least 12 different expertise expertise areas where they will be able to take that and turn it into a business the day after they graduate from high school I don't want our children I have to go to college in order to access wealth I don't want them to have to go to college in order to earn a living I want them to be in a position to earn a living right after high school graduation so they will be taught how to do documentary films they will be taught how to make vegan food they will be taught the real estate industry by the time a child is done ninth grade they will have mastered the real estate market and in native state by the time they've done the eleventh grade they will have their own stock portfolio by the time they've done um their third year of school they would have already mastered multinational investments and stocks before they graduate they will know how to do their own taxes so we want to make sure that they are economically sophisticated and economically a debt because the top 1% richest people in America never went to college not only did they not go to college most of them live off of unearned income it's a while we're slaving they're sleeping making more money in their sleep then we do on the job passive as we say way into the income you talk about agriculture in in the first in that segment justice yes so you talked about agriculture and that the economic independence of yes agriculture the size agriculture what are some other avenues you just talked about documenting yeah for for for tourism okay black people spend a disproportionate amount of the disposable income on tourism Bob Johnson so be et to Viacom in two thousand four two billion dollars I believe it was he did that because he wanted to go into tourism he believed he could make more money in tourism than he could with B et the problem was racism kept him from getting into that particular industry the way he wanted to we want to teach our children how to capture those black tourism dollars the amount of money that we spend traveling flying floating but we don't own any commercial we don't own honey Airlines we all not a single uh what do we want to call that a franchise Hotel there's not a single black franchise Hotel on the planet Earth that I'm aware of we have black hotels but it's not franchise so it's in one location in one location only that makes little sense with the type of money we spend traveling so we want to teach our children how to capitalize on that clothing production and manufacturing very important our children will be taught how to make clothing that's another area where we're spending a significant proportion of our disposable income you want to teach them how to make their own clothes okay now you brought up Airlines you brought up clothing now I'm gonna might sound like I'm taking a jab that's all right Tyler Perry just went in negotiation to buy an airline you got Damon - the shark tank Damon Oh you got complex right I'm leaning towards another question sure you cuz you talk about it a lot of times about wealth of those that what stands before is there an answer to change that is is it something they can do or is that is it I don't I don't put the question is it something that cuz there's a lot they can do the problem is the higher you go as an African in this country on the economic and entertainment food chain the closer you are in direct contact with white people of power you understand thereby the less freedom you feel to reach how to help your own people it's ironic and it's contradictory but the richest amongst us or the least inclined to do something because the more money you have the closer white people watch so how do they change it well can they you know mean not critical of nonono's that is they have to move as a group the reason why I say that because our spectrum is from okay boogity washington and WD boys hadn't debate their whole life yeah you know that yeah what I felt like what they could have done comes together some kind of way brands to gap why able to draw forces to create a moments right so but it was tough to help you well well yeah also it wasn't so much ideology between Booker T and W the boy buddy go it was he go it's a stay with WB Des Moines Garvey it wasn't ideology the boy start out as a pan-african himself he was jealous the Marcus Garvey was able to organize black people coming from another country Jamaica then he could it was jealousy okay I led to most of those comps so if you were speaking of Tyler Perry you had the voice of our Damon Dash what was uh I don't know that you had a conversation what would my questions for them would be if you're buying an airline if you're doing any if you're participating in any major economic undertaking how are you going to use this vehicle to improve the condition of your people because you can buy an airline as a black person and use it just as a nugget another capitalistic instrument to get paid this dozens of black businesses that serve white people more they serve black folk and hardly have any black people in managerial positions so Tyler Perry bonnet airline is gonna mean nothing to black people unless he sometime let's see somehow comes up with a way to use that to benefit us you're like with President Obama right here because I'm becoming president another self in no way benefits black people unless you're gonna use that influence to some extent to open up some doors which he has not done in seven years well I had to go back to him because they see my thought process is some of you spoke of earlier we got some earlier footage of you just a minute ago when you had you know some got a part of a documentary and you mentioned the thought process because I'm a big on the the power of mind yes okay so how do we make this be realistic to me or the average person because what you saying I get Tyler Perry he did his thing he got his young Sam yeah you know yeah and and mr. Pooh Boudewijn you know he did his thing David - you did as well yeah so how do I you know change my situation to make it where I can be because this we talked of wealth yes we talking billions we're talking to the average person you know if we don't even live in a world of being financially a star percentage of sixty-five percent of African man No exactly no no what no net worth they have no net worth even the so-called middle class even suck on the rice in America actually manufactured the black middle class it's really an idea it's not a reality it's not because class speaks the ownership of wealth and it's actually average middle class exactly there's a tip that teaches its to wealth you know exactly it's not a stepping stone you can't go through that mentality like so this is what I'm starting and go with you I said that I almost unplug and walk away from the exactly to go exactly fine in America was very slick because they reengineering of class well ok class no longer includes your net worth of wealth right material assets class is purely education and occupation that means a schoolteacher raising four children on her own at a thirty thousand dollar a year job hypothetically speaking because she has a master's degree in education and because she's a schoolteacher she's considered middle class class but when you look at the amount of money shake a-shake Sam it times the amount of children she's raising she's below the poverty line but she's considered middle class because they took you understand net worth an income out of the definition of class and it's only education and occupation so how what's the solution so I would get that I said well here's the thing - you got to recognize that wealth is intergenerationally created most people who get rich don't get rich in a lifetime Oprah that's once in a while Bill Gates that's once in a while most people are intergenerational wealth that means what that if black people want to catch up we have to start saving wealth and passing it to the next generation our biggest problem ain't that we're splurging is that every time we splurge we're stealing for our descendants you're giving them no inheritance that get started with but the white child they're starting out one hundred thousand dollars plus a million a million dollars plus and I think we have to become more strategic in the way that we do our health plans as well as our life insurance plans because what I'm learning with a lot of these white folk a lot of them are getting their first what you wanna call a shock of wealth do the life insurance policy of their area we talked about that you sighs insurance pop so there's so many different strategies towards wealth that we're not even thinking about because black people our selfishness it's also based on our what you want to call it emergency consciousness survival instinct we're only running about our in life we do not think about those who come after us now you got to realize now and we got our slavery white folks but already building wealth for a couple centuries we started behind the eight-ball okay so you got to play catch-up how do you catch up with somebody who's a hundred yards in front of you you have to run faster than they are right that means we have to sacrifice our spending habits more than everyone else in order to catch up how does the people who are at the bottom waste money more than people who are at the top so not only are you not catching up you're not even thinking about trying to catch up um we this is good we got a thousand questions and we know you got a flight and we appreciate the time thank you number one fat meat juicy point what would it be before you go I would say that we have to build our own schools everything we're talking about the only way it becomes normalized the only way it becomes a part of the collective black consciousness is if the children are raised with it as a group remember all progress is group work it's team work that means we need all the children in Jackson to be taught the principles of financial empowerment all the children objection to be taught how to eat healthy all the children of Jackson to understand what black family means and why it's so important until then is just a specialty as we spoke earlier diet being a specialty wealth is a specialty think about it if you're black and you're in the know about money in the laws of finance you are a 'special to the right you aren't eccentricity you are an oddity that's a problem because for white people gaining wealth is a regular part of their everyday conversation even poor white people are regularly talking about wealth black people don't discuss wealth at all we have to move it from the marginalized status it has and make it a mainstream topic of conversation is there an answer I know you can't just drop a two second and know you here's what I was able to unity again unity has to be incorporated into the collective consciousness which means children have to be socialized to unite with one another our kids are socialized to disunite as a principal right I've had first graders 6 and stop talking about how black your skin is how cheap your closes how Napa you're six yeah you dis your first year in school how do you know audiences yeah the parents we are teaching our kids to be Negros so the only way you're going to undo that is the teaching of the Africans which is why I want my school to be residential because I know sending them back to the same house that created the illness after school is gonna undo everything I do some eight two three you got the kids for 16 hours I got a fate I can't win because the brain is the creature of repetition whoever gets that is the most will rule it what did adolf hitler say come up with a lie keep on telling the lie be consistent with it it ain't got to be the truth but the brain cannot resist the temptation to believe something that is regularly presented before it repetition wins we give our kids the white folks for the first 18 years of a life if we would have remake them into Africans for the rest of their life that's ridiculous the formidable years of conditioning is birth to 12 the formidable years of conditioning is birth to 12 we give that the white people and then when it turned 21 they already had habituated they already have a personality they already got hard habits and now we want to react we cannot shift inside who does that what people have ever gotten free given the best years of their children today oppressed them in the future the fact that half of all black men in America unemployed that nearly half of all of our children grow up in poverty poverty dictates a certain type of a diet a very low income amount nourished a very sweet eat on the go type of a diet if you look at a lot of our neighborhoods the fast food restaurant chains predominate and all of the black neighborhoods this is not a coincidence when the black community came under attack by the CIA and FBI in the early 70s late 60s when the crack was dropped off in the 80s the mass incarceration of black men led to the disintegration of the black family capitalism seeing this rushed in to capitalize on the fact that black people were no longer operating as family if we're not operating as family we're not eating as family which means that we're often eating alone and on the go the fact that many black parents have to work two and three jobs to pay the bills dictates I got to get my breakfast on the move my lunch on the move my dinner on the move so capitalism saw this and I said hey we can get paid off the fact that black people are often on the go and have to eat as they go that they have to eat a low energy diet a low income diet and then on top of that they're not eating as a family which means they're spending more time outside of the home so this situation believe it or not our diet is largely related to the systematic destruction of the black family i'ma go step further though when we talk about diet as a psychologist we often look at the intersection between spirituality and diet and although food diet is critically important thought diet is as important I don't think black people African people understand the extent to which how you think every thought is a thing that manifests itself in your physical dwelling you cannot think a negative thought except to create a negative thought molecule in your body every thought creates an atom and molecule in the person so a lot of the disease that we're catching is as much related to the impoverished diet as it is related to the impoverished psyche or thought processes of African people cancer is being triggered by negativity as much as it is by the foods that we eat you look at diabetes that's being triggered by the anxieties and the fears as much as it is by the sugary sweets one of the things people have often pondered they say well how can we have vegans or vegetarians who are still coming up with cancer and they eat no animal products whatsoever how do you explain it with no trace of cancer in the genetics so it's not inherited you have to look at the spiritual diet in the thought diet you can eat well but that's only one aspect of reality you have to think well you also have to live well and we tend to isolate these psychology over here food over here lifestyle over here that Trinity of lifestyle food and thought or spirituality is three aspects of the same reality if you take care of one and neglect the others you'll end up just as sick I also believe that no matter how poor we are as African people we can improve the quality of the food that we eat by educating our parents on how to prepare for themselves ok community gardens and not only that now the technology is such that you can grow crops in your house if you have the right technology I know several Africans who have the farm indoors because they live in a place where they don't have access to land so there's so many different ways we can improve the health of African people through education and opportunity I think that's one area that we have to become more sufficient at I think there's one area where scholar warriors who are very adept at that type of science really have to step up and start giving back a little bit more to get our people on the right track number one we got to educate the children it's going to be difficult to make any lasting change to any people or any community if that change is not normalized into the culture right now eating healthy is still a marginalized area of activity for black people it's a whatever it's an eccentricity you know it's a specialty eating healthy is a specialty amongst black folk that's a problem because if it's a specialty that means most people do not do it we have to normalize it and in terms of normalizing it one of the critiques I would have of the vegan and vegetarian community don't be so extreme at first and introduce an african people to an alternative diet a lot of our people are being influenced away from going holistic because the holistic practitioners are coming at them with an all-or-nothing proposition you cannot give a baby solace you got to feed on baby food don't tell them that they can only eat these types of vegetables don't tell them that they can't eat no animal products at all slowly grow them meet them where they are slowly wean them off to me slowly wean them off the fish and take them from that stage are we on up I think we're being too aggressive and our intent to improve the health of our people it is not approving them at all improving the health at all extremism out of Kara's dietary extremism I don't care for spiritual extremism political extremism ideological extremism religious extremism it never works in the long run because the average human being isn't equipped or interested or has the motivation or effort to live an extreme life so if we want to bring veganism and vegetarianism the African people let's do it in a very realistic practical impatient fashion let's get away from all enough and proposition because we're going to lose more than we gain contact information contact information dr. Umar Johnson comm Twitter and Instagram at dr. Umar Johnson email dr. Umar Johnson at yahoo.com please please please think about joining the National independent black parent Association special ed committee school finance committee school discipline committee policy committee social support homeschooling and parent advocacy ni BPA aka black power and power stands for black parents organized against white educational racism black power okay thank you for spending time with us thank you we which there's too many topics week we could spend hours talking to you folks so we will avenge it Thank You Shane Bridget hopefully we'll get to work together sure hopefully wrong let's do that you
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