EARLIEST, WHICH WILL BE THURSDAY, JULIE. SPOON ALL RIGHT, GILLIAN TURNER, THANK YOU SO MUCH. JOHN DUFFY HOST OF "THE BOTTOM LINE" AND FORMER REPUBLICAN CONGRESS FOR WISCONSIN JOINS ME NOW. THERE WAS SO MUCH, MUCH TO UNPACK BUT LET'S TALK ABOUT ERIC SCHWERIN VISITING THE WHITE HOUSE AT LEAST 36 TIMES AND IT COULD BE MARKED BECAUSE THAT NUMBER IS GROWING VISITING THE VICE PRESIDENT AND HIS LETTER THAT COMES FROM THE WAY THE PRESIDENT LOOKING FORWARD TO THE NEXT VISIT. >> THE BOTTOM LINE IS WHY DOES SOMEBODY HAVE THAT MUCH CONTACT WITH THE VICE PRESIDENT AND WHAT IS GOING ON HERE? REPUBLICANS ARE LOOKING FOR A FIRE. THE PROBLEM IS THE FBI. ANY AMERICAN WITH THESE KIND OF TIES IN CONNECTION AND THIS KIND OF SMOKE, THEY WOULD BE INVESTIGATING. YOU HAVE BASICALLY NOT JUST THE FBI BUT THE MEDIA TRYING TO TURN A BLIND EYE TO EVERYTHING HAPPENING IN BIDEN WORLD. THERE WAS LIKE THIS MASSIVE PROTECTION MECHANISM THAT WANTS TO MAKE SURE NO ONE LOOKS AT WHAT THEY HAVE DONE IN THE PAST AND MEETINGS THEY HAVE HAD THAT WOULD LEAD US TO FUTURE INVESTIGATIONS. >> Julie: I AM GLAD YOU BROUGHT IT UP SPEAKING OF THE FBI CONGRESSMAN CALLING OUT A SPECIAL AGENT WHO LIED WITH BIG TECH ABOUT THE HUNTER BIDEN ADMINISTRATION. JORDAN ACTUALLY POSTED A FACEBOOK EMPLOYEES MESSAGE FROM OCTOBER 2020. THAT EMPLOYEE SAID, "HE SPOKE TO ALVIS CHAN WHO SAID HE WAS UP TO SPEED ON THE HUNTER INVESTIGATION" AND "THAT THERE WAS NO CURRENT EVIDENCE TO FOREIGN EVIDENCE OF THE FOREIGN LEAK OF A LAPTOP STORY." BUT HIS SWORN TESTIMONY TWO YEARS LATER, "CHAN SAID HE HAD NO INTERNAL KNOWLEDGE OF THE INVESTIGATION INTO HUNTER." >> SO IT APPEARS CHAN WAS THE POINT MAN BETWEEN FBI AND SOCIAL MEDIA COMPANIES AND HE LIED UNDER OATH. WHY ARE THE FBI AGENTS LYING ABOUT THE LAPTOP AND THEIR INVOLVEMENT OF SOCIAL MEDIA COMPANIES? LISTEN, IF YOU TAKE A STEP BACK AND LOOK AT THE SCUM OF THE FBI HAS THE PROTECTION MECHANISM FOR THE BIDEN FAMILY. THIS IS EASY TO HANDLE, JULIE. YOU CAN DO A FORENSIC AUDIT AND THE FBI DOES THESE ALL THE TIME THEY ARE ERS DOES THIS ALL THE TIME. THE SHOW COMPANIES EVAPORATED AND THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE BRILLIANT BUT THEY ACTUALLY ARE NOT PURE THE IRS CAN SEE. AND I DON'T THINK THEY WILL LOOK WHERE THE MONEY GOES. THEY WON'T DO IT BECAUSE THEY KNOW THE MONEY GOES FROM FOREIGN COUNTRIES TO HUNTER BIDEN INTO JOE BIDEN'S POCKET. IF THEY TALK ABOUT FOREIGN INTERFERENCE AND ELECTIONS, ALL CONCERNED ABOUT FOREIGN INTERFERENCE. WE HAVE DOMESTIC INTERFERENCE IN OUR ELECTION THROUGH THE FBI'S CRAZY BEHAVIOR IN THE LAST ELECTION. >> Julie: FORENSIC SHOULD NOT BE THAT HARD, RIGHT? IT DEPENDS WHO ARE NOT BLOCKED IT FROM HAPPENING VERY MUCH LIKE THE COCAINE FOUND AT THE WHITE HOUSE. YOU NOTICE WE HAVE NOT TALKED ABOUT THAT? THAT IS COMPLETELY SWEEP UNDER THE RUG, FIGURATIVELY AND LITERALLY. IF IT WAS ANTHRAX, WE WOULD KNOW WHO BROUGHT IT INTO THE WHITE HOUSE, OKAY? YES, BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO. THAT IS PRECISELY WHY. THE SUNDAY NEWS SHOWS TYPICALLY TO RECAP THE POLITICAL EVENTS OF THE WEEK BUT NOT LAST SUNDAY THOUGH. THEY BLEW OFF DEVON ARCHER TESTIMONY. REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE DOUG BURGUM CALLED OUT ABC NEWS ON-AIR. WATCH THIS. >> WAS MIKE PENCE RIGHT WHEN HE CERTIFIED? I LISTED TO MIKE LISTEN TO 50 MINUTES ON LEGAL DEBATE AND I'M SURE YOU CAN RUN AT SEVEN BY 24 BUT WHAT I KNOW I'M RUNNING AGAINST JOE BIDEN AND THAT IS WHAT WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT. OF COURSE, NOT A MENTION IN THE LAST 15 MINUTES OF HUNTER BIDEN OR THE LAPTOP. AMERICANS OUT THERE THERE ARE PEOPLE CONCERNED NOT WATCHING THE SUNDAY PROGRAMS THAT ARE SAGGING, WHY IS THE DOJ DEPENDING HUNTER BIDEN AND WHY ARE THEY ATTACKING PRESIDENT TRUMP? IT DOES SEEM POLITICAL TO PEOPLE. >> SEEMED MORE POLITICAL IN IT COULDN'T BE MORE POLITICAL AND GOOD FOR HIM FOR CALLING IT OUT. HOW DO YOU IGNORE THE STORY? THIS AS A YOUR STORY AND PRESIDENT BIDEN NOT ONLY A PRESIDENT BUDDY PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES. >> IT IS THE BIGGEST STORY FROM A DEVON ARCHER COMES OUT AND SAYS JOE BIDEN WAS ON THE PHONE 20 TIMES WITH HUNTER BIDEN AND POTENTIAL CLIENTS OR CLIENTS CAUSING THE WHITE HOUSE TO CHANGE THEIR STORY BIDEN HAD NO KNOWLEDGE OF HUNTER BIDEN'S BUSINESS DEALINGS AND NEVER IN BUSINESS WITH HUNTER BIDEN. THE MASSIVE STORY THAT WAS A COVER UP. WHO, HOWEVER FOR THREE YEARS RUSSIAN COLLUSION. EVERY HOUR, EVERY DAY, EVERY WEEK. AGAIN, GUESS WHO LOSES CREDIBILITY? PEOPLE DON'T LOOK TO NEWS STREAM MEDIA. >> Julie: OPTICS IS EVERYTHING. THIS NEXT STORY, THE OPTICS ARE BAD. HEARTBREAK TEMPLE FULL DISPLAY. THERE ARE FAMILIES IN 13 AMERICAN SERVICE MEMBERS KILLED IN AFGHANISTAN SPEAKING OUT NEARLY TWO YEARS AFTER THE ADMINISTRATION'S BOTCHED WITHDRAWAL FROM THE COUNTRY. THE PARENTS OF 31-YEAR-OLD STAFF SERGEANT DARIN TAYLOR HOOVER SAY THE ADMINISTRATION LIED TO THE FAMILY ABOUT HIS DEATH. AN OUTPOURING OF PAIN AND RAW EMOTION, WATCH. >> CONFUSION, DECEIT, LOST, ANGRY, SAD, HEARTBROKEN AND DISGUSTED. HE DIED ON IMPACT IS WHAT I WAS TOLD AND THAT IS NOT TRUE. THE ONLY REASON THAT I KNOW THIS IS BECAUSE WITNESSES TOLD ME THE TRUTH. I WAS LIED TO THEM BASICALLY TOLD TO SHUT UP PERIODS THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION, LINCOLN, , COWARDS, EVIL. ACCOUNTABILITY COME AWAY BUT I NOT JUST SAY WE MADE A MISTAKE? >> YOU ARE A [BLEEP] GROWN MAN. ADMIT TO YOUR MISTAKES, LEARN FROM THEM SO THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN EVER, EVER AGAIN! >> Julie: A D.O.T. SPOKESPERSON TOLD FOX, BY THE WAY, THEY EXPRESS CONDOLENCES TO THE GOLD STAR FAMILY AND FOREVER GRATEFUL FOR THEIR SACRIFICE AND COMMITTED EFFORTS DURING THE EVACUATION OPERATION. THE STATEMENT NOTABLY LEAVES OUT SUCCESS. EVEN AFTER THAT HORRIFIC SUICIDE BOMBING NEAR THE KABUL AIRPORT THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION STILL CALLED THE EXIT MISSION A SUCCESS. REMEMBER THAT? THE PENTAGON SUCCESS TO THE GOLD STAR FAMILY NOTED THAT WORD AND SAID THIS AND I QUOTE, CAN WE PUT THIS UP A SECOND? THE DEFENSE DEPARTMENT EXPRESSES DEEPEST CONDOLENCES, ONCE AGAIN LEAVING OUT THE WORD SUCCESS. SPEAKING OUT OF BOTH SIDES OF THE MOUTH AND THIS HAS A SLAP IN THE FACE FOR THE GOLD STAR FAMILY. >> IT WAS NOT A SUCCESS AND WE ALL KNOW THAT PEER THAT IS A POINT IN JOE BIDEN WHERE HE ABSOLUTELY CLIPS DOMAIN COLLAPSED BUT PART WRENCHING TESTIMONY. THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT DON'T WANT TO BE POLITICAL. YOU DON'T WANT TO ATTACK THE PRESIDENT. THEY DON'T WANT TO ATTACK GENERALS BUT WHEN THEY ARE LIGHT TO HOW THEIR SONS AND DAUGHTERS HAVE DIED, HOW THEY PASSED AWAY OR JOE BIDEN TRIES TO COMMISERATE AND SAY, "I LOST MY SON ALSO SO AND RECEIVED A FLAG MYSELF." JOE BIDEN DIDN'T DIE BUT OF CANCER. THESE ARE 13 MEN AND WOMEN WHO DIDN'T HAVE TO DIE IN AFGHANISTAN BUT THE FAILURES OF JOE BIDEN'S ADMINISTRATION OF THESE YOUNG PEOPLE ARE NOT WITH US TODAY. I THINK SHAME ON THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION. TREAT PEOPLE FAIRLY AND AGAIN YOU CAN MAKE MISTAKES. YOU CAN HAVE ERRORS. IF YOU ADMIT THEM, PEOPLE CAN DEAL WITH THAT. WHEN YOU DON'T ADMIT THAT YOU MADE A MISTAKE AND YOU SAY YOU WERE SUCCESSFUL IN THE NEW LIED TO THE FAMILIES, THAT IS WHAT YOU GET. >> Julie: THEY DEFLECTED AND TALK THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION VENT DEFLECTED AND SAID, WE ARE TRYING TO SPARE ANOTHER GENERATION OF FALLEN SOLDIERS. THEY FELL UNNECESSARILY IN THE BOTCHED AFGHANISTAN WITHDRAWAL. NO ACCOUNTABILITY. >> YOU CAN GET OUT OF AFGHANISTAN BUT GET OUT THE