Geoff Castellucci: Tea Time Interview with Elizabeth Zharoff

welcome back to the charismatic voice i am here today with jeff castellucci the amazing amazing low note guy from voice play who does a ton of his own stuff as well say hello jeff hello everybody super happy to be here thank you thank you thank you so much for joining and making time i know you're super busy um so to to get us started we both obviously have our mugs uh tea or coffee uh today it's tea usually coffee but today delicious tea i'm a big fan this is actually it's a cherry blossom green tea it comes in a uh it comes in a pink tin it's amazing i feel very fancy when i drink it and it tastes awesome i highly recommend it amazing all right i should also warn you that i'm like i'm a notorious slurper so oh warning you in advance perfect let's keep it human right i uh i love earl grey that's like one of my go-to morning teas it's morning time yeah yes that's right because you're a couple hours behind me three hours right now arizona is one of those weird places that doesn't uh shift times oh you're so lucky that's awesome it's nice except for when you teach a lot of people online and you have to juggle everyone's schedule at different times yes that is a that's a drawback for sure but personally i really really like it so uh well okay you are from florida originally and you are still there right i'm actually from virginia originally virginia originally virginia oh but okay this is what i have you grew up with some of the other members and voice play yes was it did you meet lane in middle school is that right so the story is like this so uh we the the three there were four founding members right this is years and years ago and it was myself lane and earl we're all in middle school chorus together and we had a high tenor at the time a higher tenor than earl at the time his name was michael kildore uh he was in school with us as well and he went on to do broadway like almost immediately post graduating high school wow so the three of us just kind of stuck with it so yeah so the original guys were myself uh earl lane michael and scott and you might also know scott porter from tv he's on netflix show right now called ginny in georgia i think i think it's what's going on it's apparently it's very popular i've caught a couple episodes he's great in it um my wife loves it so oh yeah wife kathy right kathy that's right you've done your research done some okay but what happened uh virginia you moved to florida then and yeah my dad my dad was a civil engineer for the navy so he was based in dc at the time and then uh we got transferred down here so i moved here when i was like six got it yeah i've been in orlando ever since what made you say uh you know that's a good we have a lot i just have a lot of family here um kathy has a lot of family here and obviously the guys are here so it makes it really easy to work when you're all in the same city and i i read somewhere that you don't like snow right do not i do not like the snow that is what is awful about snow just it's cold it's horrible you know like when to go outside you've got to wear 30 layers and then like you've got the gloves or the mittens and the hat that thing and then you got to go outside just to get to your car and you freeze in your car and then you get out of your car and go wherever you're going and you got to take all that stuff off and then you know it's just what a hassle you don't have to live in the snow you can move somewhere warmer have you seen that there's like an opera singer spoof video at one point about like how many scarves we put on it's like that's like there's this person that eventually has like 20 scarves around because they're so scared of the cold and the voice does that affect you at all it does not no uh i think bases are uniquely positioned to take um less fewer precautions with their voices that's a good point i can't speak for everybody but that's kind of for me so uh i specifically want to know if you have any uh any fun stories from growing up together with some of those founding members of voice play oh man um i don't know how many stories i have that are appropriate um let me see here there were so many like we used to play uh okay so we used to play basketball in lane's driveway as kids and his his dad steve is a uh fierce competitor so uh and so lane comes by this competitive nature very naturally and so i think we playing basketball it could have been football but lane's dad throws elbows like crazy when he's playing basketball um and so we've taken some elbows over the course of the years and uh lane actually i mentioned scott porter earlier we were playing uh tag football in his yard one day in lane's yard one day and lane tackled him lane is not a small dude like he likes you know he's a big fella and he tackled scott and broke scott's leg but we didn't know was broken we were he kept playing on it little by little and then like the next day we had a rehearsal and we were just sitting there singing and all of a sudden we hear a pop and scott's leg finally broke oh that was when it broke so it was like a delayed reaction yeah so you're getting so lane and scott will always have that connection wow uh this is a good story yeah that's good i have more oh is there another one that you want to share i'm down for another story so voice play as a group always enjoys food always we've always enjoyed we've always bonded over food we used to do these parties and this this might be a little insensitive to the vegetarians out there but we used to do these parties we'd call them meat fest meat fast wrap your head around that and we would just we would all just bring various varieties of proteins uh burgers chicken just and we would just eat for hours and it was disgusting we don't do that none of us can handle it we're all too old but but yeah that was like one of the other things we used to do as kids i say kids as kids much younger than we were now oh man it's like uh it's like when people carb load before the big marathon you guys would meatload protein load that's right yeah i don't know that it helped our voices at all but um but it was fun sometimes i refer to uh if i like gain a little bit of weight i'll be like i'm working on my vocal support because like my diaphragm doesn't have to work as hard now like it's like my ribs naturally stay a little bit more expanded there you go yeah i was actually told once upon a time that if i gained like another 10 or 20 pounds that i would be more suited for certain operatic rolls i was like nah that doesn't sound like something i really want to go for that's interesting was that based on somebody's um understanding of how the voice changes if you gain weight like the way things resonate or was that just like we want to put you on stage and you would look better if you were like being typecast yeah it um so it was not a stage thing as much honestly um with how big some of those costumes are and how far away people are um i i think that a really thin person on stage might be a little more difficult to costume but i don't think it really matters that much um in the end the the reason for that was more of the support idea um saying essentially like if you're singing something that's really loud and sustained like i was looking at much more dramatic repertoire at that point and saying well if you sing tosca like what are you how can we help you have an even sort of more grounded sense of support and uh and having a little more weight can can be helpful but you don't have to have it you can learn to sing without that just as well it just can take a little a little more work sometimes that's interesting i didn't know that yeah it's kind of fun huh uh let's see oh i wanted to know um i don't know how i don't know this actually but what when was the moment that voice play decided like let's go for it let's really become uh i guess you don't say i'm gonna become a big thing but when did you guys start taking it seriously and say like we're gonna release movies with high production quality and do this regularly right um that's that's i don't really know that there was ever a a moment where we sat down and said that i think what happened is we were so we were always singing together just like whether we were getting paid or not we were always together always singing and uh one of our first few shows we would get like paid in pizza or play at the bagel shop and they'd give us lunch or whatever it was and um so we just we just kept working at it and then i i want to say lane was the first guy it was like hey we should put some videos on youtube and to his credit he kept pushing with that and i think i was very much more along the lines of hey let's focus on the live show let's let's work on and our live show was a whole lot of fun um obviously we haven't done that in quite some time but uh so yeah so there was never really a moment i think the thing that really turned the corner for us as far as youtube videos are concerned was uh being on the sing-off and then having that built-in audience so we had planned um all these collaborations with the quote unquote stars of this thing off season four [Music] and so as the show was airing we were releasing these videos every week or so yeah that was once again that was that was lane's brainchild super smart dude and uh and from there it just kind of took off but i remember when we were on the tour with this thing off i was looking at our facebook page and and i was like 4 000 likes and i was like man we can't we can't buy a like meanwhile like we're on the road with home free and they're uh just you know like all the love all the people all the fans and they're phenomenal all their to to all of their credits but but yeah it took it took a long time took a lot of work to get to where we are now who are some of the other acapella groups out there that you really admire and i mean that would include people that are not necessarily groups but one person that's also doing a bunch of layers like what you do sure um peter hollins it would be the first guy that comes to mind um not only because he's got first of all he's got an incredible voice the guy just he can sing anything and he's just sounds amazing uh peter's great i really i really enjoy home free stuff um they're phenomenal there's a group out of la called mpact that's m p a c t m okay and they're just incredible vocal jazz group they're really great they kind of have a smaller following but it doesn't diminish their quality they're just incredible are they a mixed group so both they are not to mix group they are they are six guys vocal jazz uh but they kind of they kind of sound like a mixed group their high tenors are just insane um who else that's three right rockapella classic gotta love rockville um yeah yeah take six how can i forget take six my god all right i'm excited to check out impact yeah they're super good yeah i'll end up doing that for sure um okay so i uh i recently got to see my mother told me and that video actually is going to premiere right before this interview oh good right so i was kind of curious about the process of voice play and i've heard a little bit about this from lane but i'm kind of curious like when you were concepting that idea were you just like how like what's your best low note and how many times can you sing it was that part of the conversation no and you know it it never is um i think because we will sit down at the top of the month and we'll say okay what are we gonna do what are we gonna do this month and that was a song that i had seen come across our um comments several times like you guys should do my mother told me i was like what on earth is this song and the first time i heard it i was like oh that's really it's really interesting because the harmonies are so there's like a lot of open fifths and it's it's not our typical uh thing and so i threw it to lane i said hey do you want to take a crack at this and he was like yeah i can i like this song let me let me see so he comes back with this with this uh with his chart and right away it's like oh this sounds okay but then about 15 seconds in you get that low i think it's like an f or an f sharp or something yeah buddy come on you know do i just get in the studio and i just like lay out as many as i can and i send everything back to him and he does whatever he does and then it comes back it's like oh that sounds pretty good good work yeah i'm i mean for my brain i think about people are doing a reaction or analysis on youtube and the low notes are something that really does well that can trend in that atmosphere more and so i was thinking wow this song i think might actually have a nice trend on youtube and that uh it's it's weird it's not necessarily the best things that always trend like but when you have something that's impressive like a bunch of low notes in a row i thought wow ah that was that was kind of a smart marketing move it was a fun idea yeah i don't know i don't know where lane goes to get the ideas that he gets he goes into some weird space and he comes back it's just like this whole thing yeah he's he's got a twisted mind cool i think i think that is a really really cool video so many kudos to you there thank you let's see uh do you have any particular favorite performances or songs with voice play and then we're going to kind of follow this up with some of your own stuff yeah you know i recently got asked this question we do uh um voice play does a um a podcast on our patreon your christmas card i know because i'm the secret podcast oh are you oh you are yes yes um we have like a not so secret podcast but so every month we get asked these questions and that was one that came across and i think i mentioned i think i had mentioned something about um one of my very early arrangements from our disney album once upon a never after but then i was on youtube the other day and i got served can't help falling in love and i was like ow i always forget about this song so that one i think would be a favorite um and just the sound like i would just really like the way that one ended up they don't always turn out the way they sound in your head yeah by the time everyone gets their voices on them and the ant gets mixed and engineered in the whole thing you're like uh well that was close um but that one turned out great i think i also can't help falling in love for sure and just a great song you know yeah that's awesome i i know um i've done so all vocal arrangements too and like it's so amazing when you have midi that you're singing along with and then it gets a voice on it like well that's different yes and the moment it gets a beat in there then it just shifts completely again yeah uh-huh it really is that's what i think i don't know if lane works like this but when i'm when i'm arranging i i almost always start with where is the rhythm almost always oh yeah so it's like but so i'll listen to the original song a bunch of times and then kind of go okay so where where's the where is it you know and that yeah that'll take it let's take some time because if you start if you start in the wrong place rhythmically tempo then if it changes two three four hours into the into the arrangement then you've gotta undo all your work and it's really frustrating it's happened a handful of times that's really interesting i think uh you have just convinced me that i should change my approach to that so thank you you're welcome that's pretty awesome so when uh let's go into that when you're arranging for just you because you have your own channel and somehow you managed to balance doing voice play and these all well just tons of layers of your voice i know you have uh sometimes other instruments in there with the arrangements that you're making for yourself are you the one that's doing all of their arranging arranging for your own voice as well yes yeah i do um i do all that arranging i do all the instrumentation i don't play everything but uh samples or whatever i guess i guess it kind of you are kind of playing it because it's just like i'm playing the chords and then the computer will do whatever the computer does um but uh but yeah that's all that's all me and then the myth the final mix goes to a mix engineer i i'm not an audio engineer by any stretch oh who is it ed boyer ed boyer yeah yeah he's just the best he's just the sweetest guy yeah yeah that's cool and um and then you know let's talk a little bit more about 16 tons um i loved in that video the way that whenever you have the percussion of it sounds like a hammer maybe hitting a nail or something um it really goes back to like the the coal mine idea um i love the way it had that distortion on the screen oh yeah the camera shake when the yeah it hits was that uh was that was that your doing was that uh i know i think you filmed with patty cake i did i actually just filmed at their studio so lane helped me set everything up oh and then he was like i gotta go i was like that's great i'll see you in four hours so yeah so actually the person behind the camera was was kathy we just had it on a tripod and she would just hit record and i'd smash things with hammers that was it yeah that that was i it was such a like simple but like the perfect cool effect on top i loved that so much thank you yeah we had actually had a much more ambitious plan for the video uh and then i was just like you know what this i don't think this no one's gonna really care about this song so let's just keep it real simple we'll shoot it very simply and then we'll put it up and then you know like i like the song but i didn't know that people were really hungry for 16 tons right and people are very hungry for 16 times that's blown up yes it's done very well surprisingly i mean it's not like hundreds of millions of views but for my channel like a couple million views is that's huge that's great why i don't know i don't know why i can't actually just like you were saying earlier like sometimes the things that are that you least expect it are the ones that do the best yeah internet is a crazy place yep yes yes yes yes very hard to predict um and you know when we in exchange a message at one point i had mistakenly referred to something in 16 tons as a sub-harmonic and you said actually no that that wasn't a sub-harmonic so can you tell me a little bit about like what parts of your voice you used to record that sure well that that one is um i think that one's all full voice i think so full voice or chest voice i'm not the most technically minded singer so um school of hard knocks all the way all right so yeah so that that one there's no there's no trickery in there there's no like fry or growls or some harmonics that's just all me um and thank you yeah uh there is a uh there's kind of like a it's all it's it's a thing i put on myself like i don't want to always do all the tricks all the time so there are moments in that song where i could have taken it lower or higher and i was like that's just let's just keep it kind of true to the ridge because the original is wonderful too right oh and you know that actually brings me to a question about role models are there any particular role models vocally that you like to listen to or are inspired by um i don't actually listen to a ton of bass singers um i've really but if you're talking about bass singers specifically i would say that the guys are like my heroes would be um uh barry carl from rockapella thorough ravenscroft who was like the disney base guy for years and years and years um who who else would be somebody else like oh the base singer from manhattan transfer trista elvis he's he's a newer addition uh but he can like he does base scouting which is like he's like it's incredible it's it's just he's got an amazing mind for music and he just knows exactly where he's going and it sounds like it's just it's awesome uh so if you ever get to see manhattan transfer live go see him and then uh yeah but as far as like music in general like i don't really listen to a ton of agapella um i listen to a lot of john mayer because who doesn't love some john mayer and um i just let spotify just choose stuff so it's kind of where i am in the world yeah oh that's that that's fair and that makes a lot of sense um how do you balance your time uh and this is kind of like a three-fold question because i know of three main things that would keep you busy but there might be more which i'd love to hear about uh voice play your own arrangements and then also your wonderful family right you have cathy and son william william so how do you how do you find that life balance and how do you maintain it especially uh you know thinking back to times when you toured as well like how do you keep that balance going then as well yeah uh that is that is a challenge for sure um the with voice play um it ends up being like the way the way that we do video rotations it's like lane and i are kind of on opposite so like he's working on one that i'm working on one he's working on one and currently we've upped that production schedule so we're doing two a month so he and i are both working on the same pro like the same projects at the same time so if you're a voice play patron then you just got hit with two videos simultaneously because that's just the way that's just the way that everything worked out um this month and now like this morning we were on our monday meeting phone call this morning going like hey what are we doing this month um so in between those videos then i am uh working on my stuff like either at night or uh on the days when like i have the arrangement is finished and i'm waiting on the guys to send me back their their vocals so i have a couple days in between where it's like well you know i'm not really great today so let me let me take a couple more days with this and i'll get it back to you so there's there is time um my son is only in school for a handful of hours a day so it's like that's my work time um and when he gets home it's just like go go go go go go very active uh but i wouldn't change that you know like he's awesome we were in we were at a pool party this weekend and uh socially distance i should i should mention we're all vaccinated over here uh and he was in the pool like for probably four hours and there was a moment there was a moment towards the end where he's like daddy daddy daddy go go go over there and i'm gonna swim to you but i didn't realize how shallow the pool was so i jumped in and started kicking my legs to um uh tread water and i smashed my both feet on the bottom of this pool and i think i broke my big toe no so so yeah so he keeps me he keeps me literally and figuratively on my toes even when they're broken yeah aw so i i love uh like i love the joy that you have when you're talking about your son that's so cute oh yeah he's he's a handful that one he's good i wouldn't change him but he's he's a challenge challenge and a half um let's see i have a lot more questions i'm gonna go down oh yeah we've gotten through it okay oh i'm gonna kind of i wanna we're gonna go into voice technique like crazy in a little bit before we do that i wanted to ask you about collaborators and just this one question in particular because i feel like everybody needs to hear this from all kinds of different artists what makes a good collaborator damn um okay so for us for voice play somebody who who knows who knows that theirs who knows their lane like who knows their their space right um who's not trying to be something that they aren't and somebody who's extremely comfortable on camera i think that that is one of the harder things to find um when we started collaborating a couple years ago one of the things when we were auditioning for for a new baritone one of the things that drew us to jay like right away was he was just instantly comfortable instantly likable on camera because sometimes somebody's really likable in person and then you get them on camera and you film them and you're doing the edit you're like oh he just they have this like face that is like off-putting or what it's just the camera does that sometimes you know it's like camera adds 5-10 pounds however you say right so yeah so sometimes it's just like there's a there's an intangible but yeah like know your stuff be great be comfortable have fun that was good that was a that was a really awesome breakdown and explanation thank you oh you're welcome that's that surprised myself i didn't think it was gonna be good so it's good it's very organized we had like bullet points with it okay okay uh let's talk about voice and let's go into voice technique and how it's just super awesome and you're really good at it uh i love the videos that you have on your channel that are talking about how to sing low notes and you're describing um different things you have additional videos like that as well uh i was introduced to your voice in oogie boogie and yes of course i was shocked by how low you could go but at the same time it wasn't just that the thing that was even more impressive was how you could negotiate a really wide range and still have low notes to spare i thought that was just crazy impressive to me so rather than starting up the low notes i want to talk about the high notes first because like they don't get enough love um can you tell me uh you know at the very top do you work very much in your falsetto do you ever do uh have any particular exercises for the top of your voice just to keep it in shape that you do you ready uh no he's like it's just there it's easy here here's the thing right so i spent a lot of time working in theme parks when i was younger and the majority of that was not in acapella groups so i wasn't singing bass and um so i had to use i had to learn like if you wanted to audition for something and get cast i had to learn where that was like where where that sound was yeah in my uh in my own voice and placing it so that it would sound right and uh just recording myself over and over and over again and i'm like well that doesn't sound very good let me try something else so and then like once i started working full time i was just using that same placement again and again and again and again and again and uh just over the years just ended up having you know just having those notes so it's an anchor for you essentially like you have an anchor placement that has been set for years and years and years is not something that you really need to practice or keep in shape anymore yes let's go with that one no it sounds like a great explanation um so uh actually out of curiosity what was your favorite role that you played in in in the parks oh my favorite role okay so my favorite role wasn't actually a singing role this was a it was an acting it's an acting dancing role i i know and if you if you dig around on youtube you might you might find something it was called the the ghostbusters um it was the ghostbusters like review or i forget what it was called but but it was like there would be like there's a section of universal studios where it it looks like the facade of the new york public library and they would gather a crowd like you'd see it in your mouth like oh there's a shuttle let's go stand there and then beetlejuice would pop out and he would do his thing and cause havoc and then the ghostbusters would show up and i was one of the four ghostbusters and then he would possess us just like he would in the movie and we would lip-sync to pop songs and it was like a boy band basically is what it was but it was so fun and i got to like drive the ecto-1 and it was just it was awesome [Music] being a ghostbuster that's like a lifelong dream it's very exciting completed that's right amazing uh we're actually gonna we're gonna check out disney world for the first time soon oh yeah yeah this isn't on my script uh but since you mention it uh any a lot of the shows might not be up and running but if they were running which one's your favorite okay so i would always recommend especially for you if you haven't seen the voices of liberty live go check them out and i don't know that they're playing in the rotunda where they normally sing um off mic they sing acoustic in this in this space and it's just like the best thing ever that's awesome oh yeah but i think they might be singing in the american gardens theater right now which is it's a big open space uh probably safer with socially distancing and they're singing on mike and they still sound great on mike but off mic itself whoa i didn't know this was possible um a lot of the singers from from vodka are in the whispers so that's kind of like it's the same kind of same kind of vibe oh my goodness i didn't know that that's so cool so if you can check out one thing that's at epcot go look at that and then the second thing would be right in front of that there is a uh sam adams beer tent and you should check that out too the beer is the beer really good or is it delicious got it noted amazing amazing perfect okay i feel like we have a dream vacation already scheduled yeah totally absolutely that's it that's all you need voice of liberty beer happy days film that's awesome uh okay let's uh a little more about the um techniques here okay so you'd mention essentially that you have you figured out when you were younger some of that higher placement when you're going from low to high my years pick up that one of the things i love that you do is that you don't take up the meatiness of the voice because a lot of times if you take up too much meat when you go higher it gets out of that placement um do you consciously think about any sort of vocal transition as you're going higher or is it something that just happens now oh i'm i'm not 100 sure once again i'm not 100 sure that i understand what you're asking but um i am definitely conscious of i think mostly what i'm trying to do is i'm trying to stay relaxed so if that answers your question and i think the other thing that that i do is i i don't sing very loud some of the things that maybe are coming across on studio recordings um don't convey that all that well but i am not the loudest singer and uh trying to be would probably do some damage that i i don't want to do so i maybe i have like a little bit of natural compression heading from the low notes all the way up to the high notes exactly um just trying to keep everything in the same house so to speak where it's not like so so loud at the top and so so quiet at the bottom because it can just get like ridiculous you know obviously lower notes are just going to be quieter um and then the higher notes are going to be louder so i try to do a little volume management on my own there okay and then i think i think the other thing is like do i have enough air because those high notes tend to wind me pretty quickly so i'm trying to like push a lot of air through it so that i'm not choking and cracking mm-hmm got it got it got it yeah i definitely think um like staying relaxed usually means that you're not gonna get the build-up of breath pressure underneath um that might essentially add more of that weightiness to the voice so if you're thinking about staying relaxed that's i think that's probably the main thing that you might be actively thinking about that would um be really cool and not transitioning up but man it sounds like honestly it's just something you've worked on for years and years and don't have to think too much about anymore oh that well i'm glad it sounds that way the other thing that we should probably just touch on is like the studio recording i mean obviously like i can do as many takes as i need right yeah not every time not every take is going to be v take and it's not uncommon for me to have like 70 80 shots at one vocal line if it's like one of those big money and i'll just sit here and i'll just like i'm in i'm this is the studio right so i'm just like i'm in here and it's hot and i'm singing and i'm angry and i'm just like sweat it's the worst because i'm in here just doing it on my own and i'm like that one's not good that was not good that was not good throw it all out start over again so yeah that definitely happens there's a um there's a great uh video on youtube there's like a like nine or ten-year-old girl she's trying to sing some whitney houston song and she uh she's going for the for the so that's i will always love you it's like and i will and she just keeps cracking and cracking and cracking and then she screams and then she cracks again and then she screams some more that's exactly how i feel all the time are you recording in logic or pro tools or i do i work in logic um i used to use pro tools but it was it was like the buggiest program and i would have to argue with it just to get anything recorded it'd be like a half an hour of troubleshooting and then it would work the logic is like instantly i'm in i'm working it's not it's not my favorite program there are some quirks about it that i don't like but for the most part it's like it's like the one that gets the job done the fastest i was thinking about those 70 takes and i was thinking about the comping facility of logic and i was like oh she loves comping yes yeah for sure logic nerds that we were talking about that's pretty that's fun uh what about okay those super low low notes now right those are the ones that make faces that happen to me that i don't know where they came from right i think that our fans kind of specifically look for like base low note faces now um so that being said uh how often do you use sub-harmonics and is this something that you're actively working on every day when did you first start using them i'm really curious kind of what your journey with sub-harmonics has been and how you've expanded it it seems like people track your range in videos and it seems like overall it's been expanding and going lower as well so yeah i'd love it if you just talk for a little bit about that and maybe fry is yeah um well i should i should give credit where credit is due here because i this was a couple of years ago and uh i am a i'm a fan of like i've just always been interested in base singing and i guess youtube knows that so it served just one day like we were on tour and it served me this video of this guy and he was he was like here's how you hit these really low notes and he starts singing this thing and he did he did not have an extremely low voice right just a very average sounding fella um but he's just committing to the camera and he's like this is how you do it he goes i was like holy cow how did you do that and uh i was like i gotta figure this out so doing some more digging going down the rabbit hole uh this guy's named david larson um okay david david with the long hair if you're looking on youtube he does he has really long hair and uh yeah so just i was like i gotta figure this out so it took me probably three or four months of consistently thinking about it and working on it and like all the other guys in the group are doing it too so like we're all just a-holes in the street like doing some harmonics so yeah so that was a couple years ago and i probably get more credit than i deserve for um for my my uh my level of expertise when it comes to self-harmonix because i believe in my heart it is a lifelong pursuit that nobody ever perfects it's just one of those things where it's like you're constantly chasing it and it's sometimes it's there and sometimes it's not um so yeah so there are live situations where uh you know i i don't typically i say i don't i didn't used to typically put anything that involved a really important sub-harmonic early in the set it would always be at the end because i need to be like super warmed up to have anything uh come out properly or with any kind of confidence the other thing that i have discovered over the years is that if i don't have i can't hear myself clearly like if we're working with with wedges um stage monitors oh okay and it's just like a just gum it's like a wash mix forget it you need i need like absolute clarity and understanding and here love yeah because it's that sound for me always starts so quietly and then i can kind of like give it some gas hopefully and then and then it pops up the octave and then back down and it pops up and back down it's awful that's so funny it's like yodling it's exactly like yodoing yeah and it's a technique that i didn't realize i thought it was like this new dark art that just kind of like popped up on the internet but apparently it's people have been doing this for a long long time and somehow this guy david just rediscovered it and put it on youtube thankfully he did i wonder was that found in um and like some ethnic singing ahead of time like and then maybe specifically in throat singing in a culture somewhere potentially yeah um there's a uh throat singing i think is kind of like a different thing and that is that's like so painful have you ever tried throat singing uh yeah i mess with it a lot actually i don't think it's right but i played with it it's like if it feels like you're dying you're doing it right yeah yeah it's like the guys that get in the they're like the the monks right they get in the big they get together in this big room and they you know and well there's also like different kinds of throat singing which i didn't know for a long time and then i can't pronounce any of them so i won't try but there's like several different popular varieties it's been one of the coolest things actually with the channel is getting to um discover all kinds of different extended vocal techniques that i didn't know about it makes me so excited if you haven't interviewed any beatboxers yet like try to get a great beatboxer on the channel because they will blow your mind with the things that they can do just like and you're like how did you do that i don't know so yeah i i yeah i i've learned through practicing beatboxing that most the time it just sounds like flatulence like trying to figure out how that makes like turns into something good is it's a process for sure especially when you start recording that because you start recording it and you're like oh no and then you gotta then you gotta go do all the things and even live like i tell and people ask like how do you guys sound so well like we have a we have an engineer who works with us all the time he knows exactly what to do so the second you start singing into a microphone if you don't have somebody at the other end of that microphone that knows what they're doing on the board forget about it you're never going to sound good yeah true true true so true yes uh well just one more thing about the sub-harmonics i know that uh in one of the videos you mentioned you hadn't heard a girl or a female sing with stuff harmonics yet i i haven't either i was just curious if that's still true no um actually when i posted that video maybe last year the year before um everybody was hitting me up in the comments and like yeah yeah i'm totally a soprano one and i can sub harmonic all over the place so it's like a totally thing that you can do yeah it's like it's i didn't know because it's just this uncommon vocal style and uh yeah women are totally doing it and that's awesome tenors can do it i don't know how useful it is but it's kind of like a neat party trick well okay i think like as a woman that does all vocal you know all me arrangements sometimes if there's any way that i can get a little lower that's awesome because that's especially with an acapella group like you know you stack it up from the bottom and if i think about like how it arranged for an orchestra like i'm going to stack it up from the bottom and often follow what essentially would be that overtone series and i would rather have a base and then a double of that base before i start adding harmony on top i just can't do that as a girl or i haven't been able to yet harder for sure if i could different a different set of tools you have a different set of tools a different tool kit totally totally um that actually brings me to another question i had for you which was uh when you're recording your low notes in full voice do you have any tips like is it first thing in the morning do you wake up at 5 a.m to get those do you uh do you drink a bunch tonight before you like yeah that's it's interesting hang on a second i gotta i gotta shift around here um i sit like all day and so i had to buy a um i had to buy a seat cushion because my booty was getting sore and it's moving i'm sliding out from under me so i have to move around just saying you should check these guys out what is it secret lab chairs secret lab chair i'll check them out they disclaimer they are an affiliate with us um but the reason they are is because once i got this chair i stopped having back pain from sitting all day oh word is it creaky because mine's like mad creaky nope oh nice pillow and a nice reclining and all the good stuff all right i will as soon as we're done here i'm going to check it out you were asking me something and i told you low notes recording low notes any tips for that right okay so recording loads do i do it in the morning okay so the the worst time for me to do any singing believe it or not is like right now so the middle of the day is the worst uh morning is obviously better for so many reasons but also evening and i don't know why but i've just noticed and if you're a singer then you probably know too like when your voice feels right when it works correct like when it works but uh but yeah so [Music] earlier in the morning is better um have a quiet space um i'll i it's the most frustrating thing like if i sit down to record and my neighbors are mowing their lawn or then it just bleeds through and i mentioned that that i have you know i don't have the loudest voice so i have to like really crank the game and we're talking like these are notes that that uh nobody has any business singing including myself so you know the point the microphone is like in my throat yeah i'm just trying to get it out and where there's like a bird outside the window tweet tweet i listen back and i'm like oh man i gotta redo that so uh quiet space keep the microphone close pop filters are your friend i'm gonna this guy don't work without one of these in front of the mic um and then the other piece of the puzzle is um and i think it might even be more important than your microphone is have a great preamp ooh what preamp do you use i use a universal audio apollo and it is the best i've actually a bead them with um with like a focusrite or like even the pro tools stuff it's just the best like consumer level because i'm not like a pro audio guy right so i just needed something that was going to work for a studio uh and it's awesome it's so good it's so clean um yeah i have i have i have a universal uh i have apollo as well and a millennia they're both working very very well yeah right they're great can't complain they're always updated they always work they're always integrated with everything thumbs up universal send the check right this way right we need that affiliate program going that's right yeah totally that's awesome that's super awesome do you use any sort of um any sort of room treatment to get that to be a little quieter i do um i can move here so i have uh i have this big curtain right back there that i close this way i have a thing under the door so it seals it up and loving um i also have treatment on the and the reason that there's no vent on the ac because when the ac blows if the vent is on there it creates like a [Music] okay so i took the vent off the ac and then there's uh all kinds of treatment up there and around and i have these two portable guys over here i don't know if you can see them in the oh yeah so yeah those ones right uh they're from if i can name drop hang on my power cable came out they're from gik acoustics okay good company and you like move them around on stands essentially well they just they're free standing and they have a hinge so they they're self-supporting ah got it yeah so if i have to bring in a singer um i'll stick them over here and close them in and we'll all sweat together right especially in that florida humidity oh man it's no joke because you have to turn the air off right yeah or keep it right because you don't wanna bleeding in yeah oh man that's gotta be actually a bigger problem for base uh for me if if i have a little bit of a computer fan or a little bit of air that's something i can remove in rx8 with the izotope because it lives below my voice for the most r nerd i love it that's so good no eyes a toe love them yeah right but that would that would dwell in the range where you would be speaking and singing more so that wouldn't work no taking out those uh those like 60 hertz homes that would that would ruin my life for sure yeah okay okay that was it that was some good uh tech nerdy moments yeah yeah yeah we just bored everybody to death just now they're gonna love it they're gonna love it sorry you guys all right um well let's see do you have any uh pre-performance routines or pre-recording routines in particular um routines uh okay so when we're performing live typically no because by the time we get okay unless we're doing like a like an early morning hit uh you know like if we have to do like a radio station that's always like drive time radio uh it's like why you know don't make me don't make me sing at seven in the morning six of them right and the same thing with uh with like news shows they're always at some inhuman hour uh you gotta be here at 3am we start shooting at four like oh man come on i don't have it nearly as bad as like um ellie would have it but you know so so for the for those for those types of things yes it would just be like i'm doing like a lot of uh fries like up and down the range trying to connect everything make sure everything's functioning i'm drinking a ton of water and people are gonna laugh at my mason jar at your mason jar okay i have a i have a version like it's like almost like a big mason jar oh yeah i love it um and then uh if i know the material we're gonna be singing ahead of time because sometimes we get to where we're going and it's like well it's not going to work so we got to do something else um i'll just sing that like we have recordings and i'm singing along with it and trying to get those muscles to be where they need to be yeah um but other than that no i don't i don't really have any like the sirens or the lip trills or things like that no cool i probably i probably should yeah straw singing i think it's i think it's amazing yeah i didn't that's like a new i feel like it's a new it's probably not a newer thing but that's new to my world i had no i've only seen that very recently yeah the research done on it it's a i want to put it like around 20 years ago when the research came out on it basically saying like semi-included vocal tract exercises are just really um really helpful for your voice really helpful for balancing that breath pressure as well and uh yeah it's like it is the number one thing that i've seen students increase their range using um yeah but a lot of times people that have been singing for a really long time they're already using some of the things that a straw teaches so i don't i don't know if it would be great for you interesting huh that's super cool does it matter the size of straw it does like one of those big boba tea straws okay so if you have a bigger straw uh that is plastic and flimsy you pinch it some to reduce the amount of air like what you want is actually air pressure reflecting back and then and that is that's like putting like extra pressure on your vocal cords is that what's happening it's teaching your vocal folds to essentially come together with less breath pressure from underneath um so if like when you wake up i don't know if you have this problem but if i i try to sing a high note immediately when i wake up i find myself going like like trying to essentially launch air at it it's like the best okay and uh and essentially when you do an sovt exercise which straw is one of those or lip trills is one of those and that helps to um it helps your vocal folds remember like oh i can come together without so much force so yeah that's really good there's other other things too but a straw that has less room for air to come through so either pinching one or you can kind of like close off the end of one or you can use one that's a small diameter and there are singing straws specifically made um for people that can adjust that too which is really really interesting but the research on it is solid it's really nice yeah that's so cool that's so cool that somebody got funded to do that research oh yeah and he's done a lot of research since too that's great yeah that's so that's so dope i'm very impressed yeah okay a couple more questions for you and then we have just a few patreon questions they they want to ask you some things so oh oh boy i know those patrons they're they're always like the ones that are they have like all the little nitty gritty like oh man those questions the ones that make you groan yeah like this one tell me about the um video the um video probably i'm probably doing it right now i have not okay that did come across my feed and i was like nope i'd so i don't know i know of it but i haven't watched it i bel jay told me about it or maybe he put it in our slack channel he's like you guys have to watch this i was like people just once again the internet is a weird place um uh um um um um um uh um um um uh [Music] i hope they make all the money on that video monetize it make all the money right go for it guys um talk to me about um the best and worst thing about your profession so being a singer what do you think the best thing is and what's the worst thing i think i think the best thing well okay so for me specifically i can't speak to every singer but um the the joy that i get is taking something that's just like a concept and then seeing it through every single stage of its life and delivering it to people and whether whether it gets a lot of views or no views just seeing it exist is awesome so that's like that's the highlight right um yeah and then obviously if somebody appreciates the work that you've done and they like the things that you're creating and you know we're not doing original music all that often um so you're you're also have to take into account what people feel about the original song so if you've taken their one of their favorite songs and done something interesting with it that they also appreciate that also is super cool um the worst part i think is that it is a job that you'd never get to turn off it's not like it's not like i can um click punch out at five you know it's like non-stop it is 24 hours a day seven days a week we are working we're thinking we're collaborating so it's exhausting um but you're your own boss i don't have to answer to anybody we get to make our own decisions there's no record label um calling the shots yeah you know like we have we have our fans online we have our patreon community and uh it's just it's great it's like a level of freedom that is is truly exciting and yeah i i could not have predicted this as a career for myself right i mean how could you 20 years ago we didn't know what youtube was no you're going to be singing bass on the internet what right what's the intro exactly exactly that's fun uh i'm curious if there's any particular favorite venues you've ever sung in absolutely um the ryman always comes to mind uh nashville that was awesome i think we were we were just we had we wouldn't have gotten to play there unless we were with the sing-off tour i know that uh our buddies home free play there pretty consistently but it's just like like the history of the space and um people in the audience like feel that energy there's been some cool stuff that's going on in this room and they deliver that to you on stage so it's like it's like this great thing and you know we got standing ovation and i am it's just was like one of those moments that it's just it's like etched in my mind there's a true true highlight uh cool we also got to play the lincoln center that was super cool mm-hmm that was yeah those would be one and one and two one or two oh that's neat for sure super neat uh and uh you know do you wanna do you want to talk about current projects now or after patreon questions what do you feel like um i'll leave it up to you okay um let's talk about that i want to have like a big moment at the end where we talk about current projects how to get your stuff on like a things but let's um let's wait for some curve balls first okay um so jason thomas wanted to know which of your songs should elizabeth react to next uh for voice play or for me um how about both always play okay um it would be fun to see have you reacted to um this is going back a long time have you reacted to uh the home free voice play battle where we're hillbillies and zombies you should it's fun ah that sounds cool yeah yeah it might be more appropriate for like a halloween type revisit um but it but it is cool and you don't only get like the singers in voice play you also get the singers in home free and um the the female vocalist that we had with us on the sing-off show and tour honey la rochelle uh she's in there as well and she's great so yeah that's just a really fun one just and like that was a collaboration between like home like they did their arrangement we did our arrangement we put them together it's just really really fun that's fun what about uh what about you i've done 16 tons i i've had a lot of requests for blackbird blackburn is fun yeah which one um the one the one that okay so my favorite on the channel is high and dry but it's like the least favorite of everybody else i mean i love radiohead i say i say least favorite it's like it's like the least viewed but it's the one that that i can you know like when you work on something for a while and you're like i don't ever want to hear that again ever um that's one that i can listen to but maybe bear necessities might be a fun one too that one's got some really low notes in it that are i think they're awful voice that was nearly a year ago at this point so that that might be a that may be a fun one that's cool i'm excited to see and like just be watching as more things are released by both you and voice play as well yeah for sure um you know we kind of talked about this uh which of voice plays songs are your favorite and why discuss that a little bit uh luke thurman asked this question as well do you want to add anything to that sure um my favorite voice and there are so many right there's just a ton uh but there are ones that come across my timeline and i'm like oh i forgot about that um one of those is and it's just completely ridiculous it's an original that we wrote through um we had a we had a collaboration with maker studios when they were still a thing and we had to do three one minute musical pieces and it's this absurd song about miley cyrus but it's pretty funny like it still holds up it's pretty funny listen up fellas i got a story to tell about what merle well it's a real live story about an angel sent to inspire ignorant wretches such as yourself well that sounds right transcendent merle it is now shut your game and hear tell miley cyrus angel without pants the other one the one that i can listen to consistently and it never gets old is it's one of the very first songs that we did with jay uh called something just like this and it was um i think layne and ellie collaborated on the video and lane did the arrangement and the arrangement is just like it's so good and it sounds great like it's one of those ones that everything's con perfect confluence of you know voices and um lighting and just the whole thing just worked out great so the video is great the song is great so something just like this i would say it's top of the list i confess that i watch that one without doing uh a reaction so if i ever see something on it it's not gonna be first time that's gotta i never really considered that but that's have you and maybe you're giving away company secrets here but have you ever like faked a reaction have you ever like done that were you like i'll just i'll act and see how it goes you know um that has only ever happened uh it's never been a whole no no i don't think that there was one time when i had a technical issue and i think we just never released that video as a result um if i have some technical issue part way through so i have to restart it i have had to restart a few um and i'll try to just remember exactly what i'd said the first time so that i'm not um i don't want to be fake essentially um and you want to be disingenuous right you want to you want to give them the thing well that makes sense yeah truly i really want to have that first impression which i think is probably what they value but um you know at the same time it sometimes i just really try to bring a lot of analysis to it so that people have newfound appreciation of whatever the song is um but yeah it's uh that's a bit of a hot topic with a lot of people i don't i liked it it to be legitimately the first time is the answer do you ever actively avoid watching something because you're like i have to i know i know that i'm gonna have to react to this so it's here and i have to swipe away all the time and then save it all the time yeah it's actually become a battle i was gonna say like that's gotta be so hard that's gotta be such a yeah such a challenge there's so much great stuff out there yeah and you never really know what someone's gonna because i'm sure you take a lot of requests and like what someone's gonna say you need to do this one you're like ah i already watched it last week yeah totally we're trying to find like like doing like an artist profile or something for a freddie mercury because i can't react to freddie mercury the first time it's just right right how could you that's not that's not true but something that helps actually is that i was i think a little bit detached from some pop culture growing up so because i grew up on an orchard and was very into classical music and opera as well and some acapella a little a little bit of country and church music so the channel has a lot of metal and rock which are not things that i heard growing up so that's luckily you know can be told first time what what kind of an orchard was it can i ask oh yeah um apples we had lots of apples until i was like three or four and then we had to shift a bunch of them to cherries so cherries were like the big crop i had growing up um and apricots were there as well we even had some stairs it sounds like heaven sounds like it's great yeah oh my gosh cherries right off the tree just incredible oh man yes yes we have we have oranges here they're kind of good oranges are great we're just like what what's these in our oranges right they're they're ripe i think i just thought like they grow wild here they're like they're just oh there's some oranges you want something just pull off the road and grab them that's like a real thing basically okay i'll keep an eye out for oranges when we visit uh let's see gl schmidt had i love this question because i feel like it echoes something i recently mentioned on the channel how many marriage proposals have you received not as many as you'd think um i i already have two marriages i have one to my wife and then my original marriage to my singer partners and ellie so uh kathy knew when she was when we were getting married that she was also marrying the band so yeah she's been very understanding about that but no like i hardly i hardly ever get i see inappropriate comments every now and again which always make me roll my eyes but um but yeah for the most part it's people are pretty respectful which is which is good i think i don't really i don't really see myself as as a um um what's the word i'm looking for here any any anyone super desirable so uh it's that's always like really huh okay so that's funny yeah but it happens though sometimes oh and if you could play any role in a musical animated or otherwise what would it be oh um i love okay in a musical are we talking about live shows are we talking about animated or otherwise i think it's like any role it's pretty wide open that is wide open i i would love to be in the book of mormon i don't know what i would claim i would just love to be in the chorus you know because i just love that show so much i also love rent and i thought doing tom collins would be super cool um but as far as animated stuff it's my favorite animated i i'll automatically go to disney and say like what would be a cool cool role baloo maybe from jungle book would be cool to do but they're probably not gonna revisit that anytime soon we kind of just did a little bit that's like the live they did the live action right yeah yeah um well yeah that would be what i would do that's cool it's fun uh quirky uncle dave wanted to know on this one he's so fun on the theatrical side of voice plays videos is there any pressure from a feeling of constantly having to one-up yourselves every time in terms of costumes effects etc or are you comfortable saying you know what this one's going to be a bit more straightforward and that's fine um i think there there is that i don't know that we're concerned about having to one-up ourselves but there is that there's always that thing where we're like well we just we just did this where jeff was completely purple head to toe we can't do that again right so it's not necessarily like a one-upmanship it's like what can we do differently that people haven't seen before i think mostly for us the thing that we're trying to do is create first a great arrangement that sounds good yeah because ultimately if the song is exciting and it's pleasing to the ear then the video is secondary and we've i think we've done some really cool videos that don't get any views because it wasn't the right song choice or it wasn't um the right time for that song to be yeah to be visited arranged recorded yeah song choice is so important super important we agonize over that and we fail a lot uh but yeah what about um i actually had this as a possible question earlier and didn't ask it but this made me think because of the purple thing uh i loved seeing you uh do ursula but that was so fun so is it more fun to be a villain or a hero way more fun to be a villain okay no way way more fun right and i think you know especially with with with the lower notes that just they automatically just pull you towards that like super evil vibe so so yeah for me it's far more enjoyable to to play a darker character for sure ursula was a lot of fun he was so good yeah and i actually went back and forth about that a lot because he was he's like you don't you're not doing ursula right i was like there's no way that i'm gonna be able to do ursula the way that ursula does ursula like i just have to do my own version of it and hope that people understand so that's what we do that's funny it's a funny combo yes yes why did you make me ursula why i thought it was great thank you thank you john janz wanted to know um in in your take me home country roads at around the 2 15 mark you sound exactly like austin brown and his hi austin brown and his high parts so much so um there is i guess some people been wondering if austin did a few vocals for you so was that just you or did austin make an appearance in that recording no i've seen that comment floating around and no that's just that's all me uh and i can't explain why it sounds like i've listened to that pretty critically and i go i don't i don't hear it but if other people are hearing it then i'm not going to discredit what they're hearing but but no that's that's all me and um it's the all of those background parts are doubled right so they're one soloist but then all of the background parts are double tracked so i did the baritone part twice the tenor part twice uh ten or two part twice is there that might be a fourth harmony in there yeah i mean once you sing it once sing it twice you know whatever um it is a bit of work but uh so that might be why it sounds if it was just me by myself up in that world it might sound a little thin uh so double tracking it makes it a little give a little more body to it which may be why it sounds more like austin because obviously austin's a fantastic tenor one um but other than that i can't explain it but it's just it's just me i wish it was austin austin yeah right um and uh last last question kind of this is actually coming from my husband um have you ever done the full roll of gaston or like done any sort of um i know uh we've we have some disney things from voice play but has that ever been something where you've done like in the disney park gaston because something about like saying like thinking you win that role i don't know it works that's funny uh no i i had been asked to audition um for gaston many years ago but the guys that classically play gaston are uh much bigger because they have to be you know because you're they're doing it live on stage and um yeah they're just so i'm about six feet tall those guys are usually like a buddy of mine used to do gaston and he's six foot six and she's oh so yeah you've got to be larger than life to be guest on because they put you in this like muscle suit and the whole thing and yes no i've never done it but it would be fun it'd be fun to do that yeah for sure be fun to hear you on that uh well i think that wraps up our patreon questions i'd love to know about any current projects you want to talk about i also want to know how people can find your music how people can support you work they can buy your stuff essentially i'm in your patreon as well and so just like shouting shout out to everybody that's watching this uh both jeff's patreon and voice plays patreons are very active and very very good thank you thank you yeah if you're if you're talking to us on patreon you are talking to us so if you're if you're if you're if you're a member of patreon you're definitely talking to the members of the band or me directly uh yeah so you can find all if you just google search voice play you will find all of our stuff we're on youtube uh instagram the apple music spotify you name it we're there we're either under voice play or the voice play and we're we're starting a very fledgling tick tock uh we don't know what we don't know what we're doing on tick tock yet so bear with us but if you search for voice play on tick tock we should come up and for my stuff yeah same thing so jeff castalucci it's g-e-o-f-f it looks like g off castalucci uh search engine or wherever yeah that's right that's me so so yeah so i've got a couple videos out there my channel is relatively new but there's more stuff coming out um i can kind of give you a little a little peek into what's going on with voice play right now so we we have we're working on a new pop song that is going to be featuring a female vocalist um coming up this month and lane once again i don't know where he gets his ideas uh wants to do three additional videos this month so and i i don't know when this is airing but we're talking about it's may right um so he's gonna do three three little shorts and they're gonna be uh about a minute a piece and i don't know whether they're going to be on youtube or instagram or wherever they're going to live but they will definitely live in patreon and they're going to be like a departure from what we've been doing they're going to be more short format and a little test a little more let's let's use the word ridiculous um yeah so so that's that and then from my channel i i don't know i've got a couple i i've got a couple i think i've got three songs in the works right now and i don't know which one i'm going to end up with so i don't want to give anything away but it will be low okay it will be low oh hang on i got a call coming in here i'm going to say decline i get like oh no what happened oh did it go onto your your computer screen oh yeah there we go okay sorry there we go what happened um yeah i got those spam calls all the time somebody from philadelphia is coming like i don't know you oh they're like you are at that danger your social security has been breached right i'm still like who's doing those things great get a job okay um and and yeah more for you do you have i know voice by had merch at some point do you have merch um what about like other is what is the best way really to support you what things uh what services actually come back and help fund your next project the month the most sure i mean obviously like patreon is the most direct way to do it um but honestly you know if you just if you stream the music if you watch the videos if you hit like if you subscribe all those things are huge they really are you know i mean you're a youtuber anybody who's who's actively hitting that button makes a huge difference yes so so all those things help and uh anything is appreciated for sure we love every single person who's a fan on facebook or youtube or wherever your platform of choice super awesome happy to have cool yay well i think that that's all of the questions that i have for you now um so i just want to say thank you so much you're amazing you're very inspiring people love you and i just want more people to know about you because you deserve all the love well thank you so much i was very happy to do this interview you were a lot of fun so it was nice to meet you like this and you know high five keep doing a great job high five and we're going to miss because the timing is going to be weird but there you go yeah but uh thank you to everybody for watching this and i hope that you will have joined us ahead of time to see that uh reaction and analysis of voice play and jeff and we'll definitely be featuring them more in the future they're just super super amazing so thank you jeff and bye everybody see

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Length: 83min 49sec (5029 seconds)

Published: Fri Jun 04 2021