say over the last hour or so. We saw the arrests made at this point. no word on how many arrests have been made if there were any injuries as things. started to get fairly violent but a lot still left to figure out again you are looking at the aftermath there on your screen as we do have several different angles. I do want to bring in a guest to talk a little bit more about all of this as it is unfolding here. Dr. A soft Roar marowski is the executive director of Scholars for peace in the Middle East joining us now live. Thank you so much for taking the time to be here with us today. Thank you, as always. All right, so first off I just want to ask you as you're looking at some of these images as you have seen these images that have been coming in all throughout the night and morning. What are you thinking what's going through your mind watching all of this? well let's frame it for starters. I mean, this is uh Hamas is this is our war against Hamas in America? what you're seeing here is really a um, an exact mirroring of Israel's war against Hamas and on the ground in Israel and the people who are jumping on the bandwagon here are really are professional. operatics. They are professional agitators. who have been organizing. Um, and designate designating their time. Uh, and in orchestrated way to activate American college campuses the comments that have come out. are clearly supportive of Iran Hamas hasbulla you've seen Flags, uh with the whole idea of trying to put pressure. on these. universities. uh to what in their viewpoint uh, adopt the Palestinian narrative, which is basically a pro commas narrative. It's not about Palestinian Society. It's about a terrorist organization. and I would also note that it's also anti-American. I mean the the flat you know, the the statements that have come out on some some of these campuses have been uh burning American flags burning Israeli Flags This is an anti-western. anti-American, uh anti-israeli movement. Uh, and it's important to note that because the enemies of Israel. That Israel was fighting on the ground or the enemies in the United States and vice versa and that's this is a subsidiary of this entire reality. Uh, and so that's part of what you're seeing here as well. It's also important to note that a deeper dive into the funding. of these encampments namely the tents the foods all the supplies are the same people who are funding the boycott divestment and sanction movement. Uh and also led by people like George Soros And so there's a political connotation in a correlation. between the progressive flank of the Democratic party and these encampments and the reactions that you're seeing. as a result of uh by the leadership of the campuses namely the president and the administration. correlates with that. I mean a lot of the uh sentiment is Marxist ideology, Um, but they are equating themselves as to uh, Freedom Fighters. uh when they are indeed exactly Pro commas, Uh, and it's also important to note that many of the people who've been on campus. at Columbia and other places are known active terrorists on Colombia's campus when all much of this began and when they were hijacking and took over Hamilton Hall. uh you also saw in the audience. uh, saw me Arion wife Sammy. Larian is a convicted criminal a professor who funneled money to the Palestinian Islamic Jihad. his wife his son-in-law or also a son-in-law also, Teachers, uh, you see this correlation of terrorism on American college campuses. which is why you're seeing not only verbal abuse, but violent abuse and you're seeing violent happening, uh, on several aspects of all this all over the place. and another thing that is worth noting you hear a lot of folks who are saying First Amendment rights to protest there is that everyone? does have the right to protest? However there's a difference there between the First Amendment, right as well as hate speech. Those are 2 very different things. 100% I mean I think that the biggest confusion they the trying to argue that this is Free Speech, which is really it's hate. speech and it's beyond that it's racism. It's terrorism on American college campuses. I mean I would argue. that finally we saw some expulsions and in some movement by the police. and the local cities to move out these students but there should be consequences. This is using and abusing. a liberal. Western institution and trying to turn it on its head. by promoting. acts of terrorism. This is this is promotes Iran promotes Hamas the entire axis of Iran. uh it is utilizing. American institutions. to try to promote their own. agenda. under the guise of free speech. Uh, and we this should not be tolerated. I think that the hearings that we've seen on Capitol Hill starting going back to uh, when they um when the hearing took place with the president of Penn MIT and Harvard and then later on we saw a few weeks ago, with the president of Colombia. only spotlighted the rock that we already saw. in the academy. taking place here. where you've seen Insidious, nefarious activity of attempting to hijack American liberal Western institutions. with the idea of promoting totalitarian ideologies. Um, Marxist ideologies that are that a tyrannical and our terroristic by Nature Are you surprised to see just how far these protests? have? extended? I want to get your thoughts on that because we do know that we've now seen them happening not just on. Columbia. University's campus where it appears that. most of the larger ones. did start the ones that were getting I guess you could say the most publicity so to speak but now you have them. UCLA you also have them in the middle of the country over at University of Texas, Austin Are you surprised based on what you've seen that we are seeing these pop up all over the country from coast to coast. Uh, I'm not surprised. This is you know, this is an orchestrated organized event. none of this has happened in a vacuum. It's also important to contextualize. in the same vein that literally 2 3 days after the war on the ground began in Israel. You started seeing the Palestinian groups namely groups like the SJP students for justice in Palestine who already had playbooks kids of how to radicalize and activate American college campuses. 2 3 days after the war and you saw a similar tool kits being handed out to Palestinian students and sympathizers. at Berkeley. at Columbia and other places with the idea of creating the amount of pressure you had leaders of Hamas. on Qatari TV Thanking American students. for their support of their cause this is part of the globalizing of their messaging. Uh, and it's exactly what's been happening all over the place. It's also critical to understand that what happens on campus. never ends on campus. the political toxicity that we're seeing here. Which is analogous to what we saw in 1968, but I would say Amplified by the terroristic reality. uh to my mind is a precursor to what you're going to see predominantly. at the DMC in Chicago. uh in August. Uh, and so a lot of the progressive politics that are playing into um, in articulating and sympathizing with these causes. and so that's also part of the architecture and and there there is an attempt uh to demand I mean you're seeing some of the comments that have come out for example places like brown, uh, and even in Colombia and at Northwestern the other day, making demands on divestiture demands, that these universities divest from the state of Israel. So you're seeing a clear correlation. between the economic. Warfare that has been employed by the boycott divestment and sanction movement employed by these Palestinian. radical islamist groups. Not only in the region, but also on American college campuses in the United States. that are pro commas and are making these demands in order to impact. American foreign policy and that's part of the how the circular movement has taken place here between um, the campuses and American foreign policy and it's also worth noting that these are the Future Leaders of American society. And so if you kind of get a microcosm here of what our institutions are producing and if American universities, I still believe are indeed social indicators And so if you're looking at the exactly what are they thinking and how they're thinking about this? That's very concerning. I think that invest, very concerning. there is a there's clearly a level of that. They are really no longer. and some of these cases uh promoting scholarship. they're promoting propaganda, and that's quite telling about and should be concerning to all of us about what research institutions that are based on these. values of discourse and inquiry are actually producing these days. Uh, and they're producing really propagandists rather than actual thinkers. uh for the Next Generation. 1 thing that you kind of already touched on but it's important to note is that we did hear from mayor Eric Adams in New York City talking about the Colombia protests and he said 282 protesters were arrested at 2 universities. including Columbia. This was overnight the night before he did say most of them were quote outside. agitators, So a lot of times we're talking about not necessarily all students who are there we're talking about people who have come to the university and are pretty much. I guess Gathering other folks some students, but mostly these outside agitators and holding these these protests. Yeah, I mean you're seeing a a combination of professional. agitators and professional students Some of them are actually maybe auditing a class or 2 trying to get their footing. on the campuses themselves, but they're using and abusing. uh, the environment in itself and the institution to radicalize the campus itself. Um, that brings up a very interesting point in a very critical point. that I think needs to be looked at very carefully and that has to do with the fact of the the background. of the students who are coming to campus. whether or not they have international backgrounds and doing some background checks on where they're coming from. especially when it comes to foreign countries and that's also bringing into light. the question that we've been questioning all along. And there's a history of this. on. a a for decades in American college campuses that has to do with foreign funding when you have foreign funding that is coming from the qataris and other Arab countries and you know, China and other places. the there's a clear. Insidious narrative. that's playing out here that much of the foreign money that's coming into American universities is coming with a clear intention that if 1 buy buys a chair or a department. 1 buys the politics in which these topics are being taught and what is happening Now what has been spotlighted predominantly since the Congressional hearings is a questioning of the universities that whether or not they're in violation of Farah issues whether or not the violence of any any tax issues when it comes to taking on foreign money and not checking the origins of the money and the objectives of where these monies are coming from and and and their goals. All right. a soft. Thank you so much for taking the time to join us and to talk about these protests here. again, there's a lot to discuss a lot of developments as we've seen a lot of action. taking place here. this morning especially on the UCLA campus. We know that more protests are scheduled for later on today. before I let you go Is there anything else that you want to add about this or any developments there out of the Middle East as I mentioned all the time, they happen pretty much. on an hourly basis. Yeah, I I think that there's an ongoing correlation as far as putting pressure, you know from the Middle East, you know to hear and vice versa. It's again as I said before it's important to critically note that this mirrors this is our war against Hamas on American college campuses. and these are not free speech individuals. Uh, they are looking to terrorize the campuses and they come with those agendas and unfortunately you're going to see uh, if we don't take this seriously, which we've seen uh taking place here all along they're going to radicalize take over the campuses. Uh, and you're going to see more acts unfortunately of violence that we've seen also, at you where a student was physically attacked and these are major concerns. uh that you're seeing all over the country and this needs to be cracked down on this this this this cannot be and should not be tolerated. Dr. Assaf ramski as always. Thank you so much for taking the time to join us and provide some perspective a lot of developments here. in the day ahead. I'm sure but thank you so much for taking the time to be here with us.