Futuristic Visions & Beyond | Fiorella Giordano & Ruth Cube Keijdener

all right jesus hallelujah we're live okay hey beautiful powerful people of the world um okay let me just go and find myself there there yes okay everyone you are in for a treat i am with the fiorella giordano she is like you know the woman in the future but actually on earth right now here this this girl is so phenomenal she is brilliant she is so just different but in such a special powerful exciting inspiring way okay that's who she is and i thought i need to get this girl to be listened to by you guys and so without further ado this is miss fiorella jordan no fee can you please say hi to everyone hello everybody thank you for having me on ruth i'm so grateful this is such an amazing opportunity to be able to just have this conversation yeah i'm very excited i mean we're gonna unpack a little bit more i mean we were together in the conference um in texas and it was like whoa mind-blowing and i felt i felt so strongly that you know the calling that you have right now is just so important to be understood by people and so let's get into it straight away fiorella i think i should have called you fee or fiorella yeah you can call me fee first of all though um what platform are we on so i can share what platform we are in beautiful powerful oh we are in ruth cube gaitherner ministries okay okay so i have two ruth cube the other one with the orange uh okay got it i will i will um oh got it okay here we go okay so and you know we have so many things going on right now in our lives you're all over the place yeah i know we have um i don't know how many platforms you have several too many yeah um i think it's good it's good to reach as far as we could and as fast as we could for jesus okay fear i of course um i'm not so sure whether all our audiences actually know you um and your background so if you can just share a little bit we'll start with that share your background a little bit before jesus and now with jesus okay so pre-jesus i actually grew up in a christian home my parents were missionaries but it was their faith it wasn't my faith so i very much grew up a little angry and just you know not interested in in god honestly until um later on in my college years i um i was borderline agnostic and i just had this profound season where as an english major for english literature i was taking some courses um you know that had to do with literature and i decided to take a whole semester on cs lewis which if you guys know who he is he wrote the chronicles of narnia and um so anyways i took a whole semester and reading his his literature his books actually really softened my heart towards the lord um and then the following semester i actually went and watched the passion of the christ and um and you know after that i i got on um i locked myself in my dorm room and i read the gospels for three days and it was just so palpable and so clear um that this was the love that i couldn't turn away from that this was real and um and then i gave my life to the lord and it was a total you know complete turnaround for me because i have a very um very intense nature and so i knew that if i ever came to a place of faith that it would be a complete turnaround for me and so that day came march 2nd of 2004 and my life has never been since you know has never been the same since then and that's you know i was very much in the space of academia and wanting to get my master's in doctorate in literature and um and then you know after i got saved um right in the midst of my um you know trying to get my degree um my bachelor's in uh literature i um i had this burning desire to step into ministry and to um just see you know where the lord would take me um if i if i said yes to the ministry call and i did and so that was in a journey in it of itself and i ended up landing within a year after i got saved you know around some just key people that unlocked my destiny unlocked my perspective and the lord did so much in a two-year season that really just catapulted me into the whole next phase of destiny wow um would you say when you were young or even you know before jesus you were already super imaginative or is that your nature or you just really like to study um i think i have always had a flair for being imaginative i actually remember the first time that i cognitively like knew that i was daydreaming it was different you know how all children you know play you know make believe right it's just part of like they're just like imagining role-playing or whatever right and i did that as a child but i had this one morning um i spent a lot of time with my grandparents and my grandfather was up early this one morning and i woke up extra early and normally he would want to you know just be you know sitting and quiet you know he had you know uh mozart going on it was like mozart or beethoven or handel every morning and i knew you know who these guys were when i was like five and um so anyways i woke up and i interrupted him and he was just like no no just calm down like sit over here sit next to me close your eyes and i said okay and he said now just imagine and follow the music and that was the first time i remember cognitively that i actually my mind was following a narrative and it was a narrative that was generated inside of me but it was activated by this music and i began to just follow the music and i actually began to do that every day from that point on it was something that i was literally unlocked i remember the first day dream i had and that was it and um and i just you know so ever since then my imagination was activated my grandfather didn't even know um you know so my mind not just like my make-believe like role-playing like as as any little girl would right but my desire and longing to see beyond was opened up that morning and it's always been there since then that's exciting yeah with me they will give me a word or i would see a situation or or something like that and my mind will just no no no it has already it's all story right so how would you know i i mean how did you recognize that it was actually the lord giving you all these ideas you see normally how would you my question is how would you know that that's the voice of god with you how would you know that it was the mind of jesus talking to you i think that um being highly imaginative you know um pre-jesus obviously i didn't know you know and um and then after i got saved and the and i started reading you know scripture and the stories that the truth that was emanating out of there and the possibility of the supernatural and what was actually possible in god and what these other people had had touched in god you know started start stirring with my desire so i think that for me at first i didn't fully know i was just doing what i always had done and just sort of engaged the lord in this place where i would just follow the narrative of possibility and i eventually took me a few months but i realized that from the point i had gotten saved my imagination had really shifted and i hadn't realized it till this one night where i was like oh i think i'm actually seeing some of my destiny but it wasn't even it was just more of an impression it wasn't like i knew that i knew that i knew but i found it i was like well there can't be any harm in you know in in dreaming about things of god right so i just sort of let myself just go and then you know then the dreams like at night would come or prophetic words and they started intersecting and confirming a lot of what i was already engaging with my imagination so i think that that was more of like where i knew that there was a level of confirmation from the lord that my mind and my imagination were on track wow so um straight away because you're you're in literature you're immune you know and you're even with beethoven and all these mozart thing and then but now all of a sudden you you're into uh just basically redesigning so many things and envisioning things and all that so to get in before you got into all these uh were you actually were you actually like is was there a time when you got confused somehow or not really because you know you're in literature no i wasn't confused um i actually didn't want to finish my degree because i was wanting to go so badly into ministry i just wanted to get around revival i wanted to get around the prophetic i wanted to get around miracles and i was in the space where um you know if you know anything about that academic you know field um i was sort of disenchanted just because a lot of the conversations were you know in classes and things like that felt so circular and it didn't feel like there was any you know there were great conversations but there was no arrival into anything and i i think i began to really just in that moment i was like i hunger for the power of god and i'm not seeing it here and so i wanted to drop my degree but the lord wouldn't let me he had a plan for it um so i finished and um and then i went into you know into what i wanted to i actually didn't really even use my degree like as a career per se um i immediately you know went into ministry right away and um and so that was my transition into what i am right now you know that the experience of the power of god was my transition and the lord began to introduce me um to just a different perspective i remember one day i was i was about to go to bed and i just told the lord i had this like very it was one of those conversations that you just kind of like say it you know and you're just you're not really putting a whole lot of thought behind it and i just said lord if there's anything that you want to talk to me about that is beyond my box i want to hear it you know i don't want you to just talk to me about my needs and my process and what i need right but i want to hear you know beyond beyond that and um and i didn't know that he was going to answer me and it was around that time that he started stirring a lot of um just curiosity for things like quantum physics and um you know just sound the power of sound and light and and so my curiosity started leading me into a discovery and then you know the year it took years um but the lord started at that at some point eventually he started speaking into the process of my curiosity and just releasing revelation um about sound and light so initially was sound and light and then um around 2015 there was like a hard shift and then it was as if all the seeds that he had planted for i think that that question came out of me the initial you know that that phrase that i said talk to me outside of my box was probably like 2010 and then by 2015 so it took five years of him sowing these seeds um there was a really hard shift of just the revelatory realm over my life and i started seeing into dimensions of technology that i had never you know i had never like thought about and um i had no you know in college i had to take classes for computer science and stuff as part of my part of my basic and i hated it i was just like this is like the most awful thing how can anybody i was actually dating a guy who was in technology and it was i don't know if you've ever had this happen but it was like um you know you have that one friend that is in tech and you when you introduce them they're like yeah i don't really know what he does he's like in technology or something because they have no idea right it's like what does this guy do systems analysts like what in the world is that like nobody knows right and they try to tell you what it is but nobody gets it so i was in that space and um and then you know it was funny because i was sort of like what in the world is this and what am i going to do with this maybe you know maybe i'm going to meet some people that i'm going to speak this into and edify them and help them you know in their innovative endeavors and a little while later i was like lord this is so outside of my box you know i wasn't i wouldn't have um considered myself anybody that was that had any scientific aptitudes you know i was very much i really struggled in my linguistics class because it was linguistics is very much science driven as far as like language and so um and the lord reminded me of this of the season in my life in my childhood and i had completely forgotten about this and i couldn't believe i had forgotten about it but it was that seed of longing and somehow that seed of longing had kind of like just forgotten you know i didn't i didn't remember i was eight years old i actually had to call my mom about this and um because i was like maybe i'm like remembering am i remembering a dream or am i remembering like is this real you know like what happened but i was eight years old and i remember asking my mom to sign me up for for a programming class i was eight and my mom was like okay so she signed me up i lived in south america in peru and so she signed me up into this like this institute this like computer science institute and it was summer and so i she managed to somehow get me in some course but everybody else was like older than me i was like a child and i was and i remember sitting in front of that computer and learning this programming thing which i don't even know what language it was you know like what programming code or whatever it was and the lord reminded me of that and i was like wait i called my mom and i was like mom did you sign me up she's like oh my gosh i did i totally forgot about it so all that to say that that seed didn't come into fruition until the right time and when the right time came when the lord unveiled the whole side of technology which i already was getting an infrastructure and a framing through my longing and desire to discover sound and in in light and even just thinking more architecturally like how do things work you know my mind started going into this thing as to like how do even the things in the spirit work like i want to know how they work and that whole journey unlocked me and it eventually became like i understand it it's just a dimension that i understand and it's easy for me to under to learn you know and educate myself in it well would you say um when you when you matured a little bit more the expanse that was inside you just it's just coming out i think that's what's happening right there's just so many things inside of us because of the lord wanting to go and be rediscovered by us and then all of a sudden i but you timing that's what you said right there's always a timing for the lord to actually reveal himself to us um i was just actually asking you that because um you know everybody you have to understand she actually there's a certain definition that we we put in the the church uh usually use but then her definition and and and some of our friends as well have redefined some stuff they're actually beyond the church which is really exciting that's why when i met these people i'm like oh we need to get them out because there's just uh god is so immeasurable that there's more guys there's more and so i'm gonna i'm gonna give you fiorella some words that huge is being used most of the time in the christian supernatural world but guys be ready she's gonna answer you and blow that mind off and you know just the boxes that we put ourselves in you know that's gonna go away right now you're ready so visions and visionary okay that word and please explain how do you awaken these visions okay just explain i wanna break it down so a visionary is somebody who is able to generate and produce high levels of vision meaning they see at a whole different altitude they see a macro instead of the micro they see the large picture they can see you know beyond the scope of what is present and you know we tend to think of visionaries like people like maybe walt disney or people like elon musk or people you know like jeff bezos who just you know are influential and their level of vision just unlocks the destiny of the globe i mean that's really what they're doing and i think that sometimes especially in the charismatic church or in the church in general we don't really know we think that visionaries are just sort of people that just can envision at high levels and i i actually think believe really that a visionary can be grown and it's really something that if you learn to steward vision um beyond just even like okay this is a prophetic word but what is god dreaming about about that word that's where you can begin to expand as a visionary and use your imagination submit it to christ to empower your scope of possibility and really how it works is that you know we're all given a gift of faith we're all given seed of faith and that seed of faith is meant to grow and the way that a vision you know people who are visionaries actually have a big gift of faith you know we think of the gift of faith as this gift that is for like healing the sick and raising the dead but it also works on the other side of creating vision and envisioning a future envisioning the possibility um envisioning progress all of that can also operate out of faith because faith is the substance of things hoped for the evidence of things not seen right and so if we begin to engage our faith in the hope of of a substance that man i have faith to believe for that i have faith to reach for that but i may not have a revelation that that's part of my destiny and so maybe i won't go there right but i feel that the lord just wants to break those limits out of people and say you can dream with me and you don't know you know how you know sometimes your destiny doesn't always come in a prescriptive way like this is what you're supposed to do sometimes it's it's a discovery i mean god took abraham in a discovery he didn't tell him right off the bat where he was heading you know um so i think that we have to um break agreement with some some uh vows of poverty that we have made within our own scope of vision and actually take hold of the faith that is in us and grow that faith by dreaming with god and growing vision so that we can expand and we can actually chart vision and give vision to culture in the world who's hungering for vision without vision the people perish right yeah what there's just the thing is you know um there's so much more that god wants us to go and attain and he has given it to us but you know what you're doing right now is actually awakening that awakening that there is something inside you that you have to dream with god about because there's an expanse inside you that god has put exactly oh i want to eat it that's so good okay i i love this word futuristic you know we we as christians tend to just be um you know most of the time okay how are we gonna heal the sick how we're gonna you know get the people fed how are this how would that but not really go beyond where and we can actually create create something that will actually prosper the world i love the way you explain futuristic and how it is applied go for it girlfriend okay so you know there is this quote and i can't remember who actually uh you know coined it but i'm just gonna quote it and it says the best way to predict the future is to create it and so if you you know if you're not partnering with god to create a future and you're just living for the now or you're just more on a fixing mode like let's meet the needs um you know we're missing you you know what what is possible and how to how does one action build on another action and what is the possibility of the pattern um of the times and seasons that the lord is releasing what is the what is the possibility in those patterns and so a futurist you know is more somebody who is has their their own they're prophetic in the sense that they're prophesying out of the it's the imagination of god you know what is possible in god and what is you know the renewed and the redemptive reality of christ and what is possible within him in that reality and so you begin to to look at at your life at your present and then start thinking about you know years beyond and your children or your nephews or your nieces or whatever and you start being able to identify okay i think that this is going to head in this direction because you're actually the way that you're connecting with the lord is generationally so if you're not thinking generationally you're not going to be able to be futuristic because you know futurism in and of itself has to do with your ability to predict what's coming and so on a prophetic side we only think of like the forecast for the year or or even the next 10 years but we never really asked the lord what is the realm of possibility in faith not necessarily out of like spoken prophecy but the possibility that's unspoken how can we build a future out of the evidence of of things hoped for so it's it's so connected to being a visionary but it's it's more as to like i want to take this globe and this and this and the people in the globe to the next level to the next frontier and identify that frontier so that innovation can happen in that next frontier and you can begin to actually create leadership usually people who have leadership are ahead of the curve in some level so either they were positioned beforehand um you know and have a level of leadership because of their positioning because you know they saw something they saw potential somewhere whether it was in a market in an industry or whatever and they're positioned to lead now as god can position you to lead you know he can lead you by revelation and by desire and longing and you he can start posturing your curiosity can begin to pass through you for the future so that you can lead in the future so god wants to you know move people beyond just understanding times and seasons but really have a strategy for the possibility of time in general yeah i i i love that i i actually have this imagining envisioning projecting or predicting what has not been realized but with you going further that can actually be realized when we are doing it in faith with knowing that you are actually called to do something like this yeah it's it's it's it's it's amazing how god has created human minds just human beings right i mean wow i mean well at the end of the day who's going to create the future well it's been we have to yes yeah you know we yeah ah it's so exciting okay um you you you gave the word infinitier and it's a fact come on fiorella uh can you put that in a normal language i'm gonna try i'm gonna try um infinite hearing came out of this concept where i was trying to process you know how does the futurist visionaire visionary you know it felt more like it felt like how can i work with the vastness of god and actually build out of his vastness and so that was where the word infinite and engineering came together so it's really um a concept that is centered around the idea of the manifold wisdom of god and just the multifaceted nature of god's perspective and how he sees things and how he processes things as the manifold wisdom of god his divine intelligence but it has so many lenses it's not always um it's not always solution driven sometimes it's it's wonder driven you know sometimes it's both sometimes it's um it's just it's just has so many levels in the sense of like there's realms of glory there's realms of justice there's realms of solutions there's there's wonder there's possibility there's um there's government you know and like a governance you know of how to do things and and that kind of thing and so i started thinking how how do i begin to frame this concept in a word and empower people to actually build out of the multi-faceted nature of god but also the multifaceted nature that they're carrying you know a lot of times i think that in the past people um for a long time have been advised um to educate themselves and specialize in something and you know suppose when you specialize in something you can become very good at it however i think that for this next era you actually need to have a generalized um education and approach and the reason why is because it's the era of the manifold wisdom of god and god wants to reveal the diversity in you all of the giftings in you and and unify them in a way that there is depth but you have traction and you can actually build out of the full scope of the divine design that's inside of you and when you begin to partner with god with your fullness and his fullness what can be created is infinite and so you're literally engineering the infinite dimensions of your divine design in god and revealing the manifold wisdom of god on the earth displacing powers and principalities in the heavens according to ephesians 3 so that's where that word came from in short you're limitless exactly in short you're immeasurable in short even if it's impossible you can do it because when god because it's been ingrained in you to work the impossible that's right all these things are so you know if you're calculative you have a problem with this [Laughter] but if you have faith and know that god is beyond even beyond our imagination wow there's everything is infinite right you just go infinity and beyond but no i have seen your ear has heard it's what we haven't been able to to put a word to you know we haven't been able to to to push forward but that's what god wants to bring out but he needs the infinity or he needs that person that is going to embrace the fullness to bring that forth i like that um fee because the thing is every one of us has a different type of the way god created us and so therefore it's so exciting to just see the manifest glory of that you know them you know to see i mean i'm i'm already so in awe of who you are and how how things got unfolded on you and and you know so are i'm sure all of us have something to contribute because jesus god in us is just so immeasurable and limitless and that's right it's true it's too exciting i mean my heart like explodes okay so innovation um you know um i think you know a lot of business people would use innovation work but not a normal being like i mean sorry not normal being we're all normal beings even the business people but i mean normal you know thinking oh i'm just a housewife i don't think i can innovate oh i'm just you know that you know you just you just got yourself you know you almost kind of curse innovation word so can you just explain a little bit more so that they're going to be like broken i mean their their brains are just gonna you know explode in that how yeah you know how to cultivate it as well please do that absolutely you know um that's one of the things that i love doing in my infinite hearing mentorship which i do this 15-day sort of mentorship programs and i just actually finished the last at my last latest one um yesterday so i have some experience in this in this and seeing people come out of this box and actually begin to innovate um and i say this you know innovation is just bringing something new into being and you know it's it it can be creative but innovation is more you know more driven to like a product perhaps rather than like an art form but art can be innovative you know in and of itself um so it's a it's a word that can cross over many many fields so i don't i normally tell people don't think only innovation is technology or science but you can be innovative in the way that you create courses in the way that you educate in the way that you um it's just bringing a whole new approach into being and and creating a trajectory right that is innovative and bringing people into the new now when it comes to you know people cutting themselves off saying well i'm just not that creative or i'm just not really wired to innovate like i don't really think about you know stuff like that or whatever i have some people in my in my mentorship who um who join my my the mentorship program not necessarily because they identify themselves as a innovator or technology innovators per se but because they're just hungry right and they just maybe they love what i'm sharing on or whatever so it's more on that end but so usually those people that sign up you know thinking well i'm only you know i love writing but i'm a housewife or you know that's all i've done all my life and and this and that you know so i i have i actually have a one-on-one with them and i begin to break open you know the possibility like i asked them questions i brought them like what is it that makes you come alive you know and don't give me a religious answer like really makes you come alive and i can normally tell when they're talking about the stuff because normally they come into the session and they just want to talk about like a specific thing and it's like i'm just making my pieces with this and this is what i want to do and and then you know they kind of come out of their shell and then they say well i really actually kind of you know i've had this on the side and i love to do this and and they're like whole demeanor everything about them changes like they light up and i was like that's where destiny is it's not there it's here and so i i usually start you know my mentorship programs with this thing i tell them i was like i want you to step out and that one idea that is wild that is like that wild factor that not not something that just came to you but something that keeps coming to you because normally when the lord is speaking to your mind he'll keep bringing something up if it's in a thought if it's in a thought form or in an idea form it'll keep coming up and so and usually people don't aren't like oh you know that's the lord speaking or whatever you know they never explore beyond that and so i tell them take that idea and let and usually that idea that wild idea will break them out of their box and so i had this one one one lady who was you know um there and these people are not like like in their 20s you know they're they're more mature and so they're some of them are in their 50s some of them are in their 60s and this one lady you know she just stepped out of her box and she began she's begun uh you know publishing a children's series and she's gotten somebody to illustrate it um she's beginning to step in and explore and discover entrepreneurship and even you know holistic um you know environments and creating holistic atmospheres to to facilitate you know healing and things like that that she had never given herself permission to think about but now she's thinking about it one other lady you know she came into the session and she said that she loved writing but then she the spark went off inside of her about you know this particular um this particular you know just idea that she had and and after the 15 days she's decided to create her her own skincare line and these are people who never thought they were going to do that you know they never thought that they would actually take the risk of going into that into that paradigm of thinking and pursuing something that they had never given themselves permission to do so all you have to do is start with that one wild idea to break you out of your box and then in it of itself because you're out of your box you're out of your usual patterns you'll actually start innovating it's really simple like it's not it's not like you know i mean there is the level of inspiration and creativity that that generate inside of you as you are engaging the possibility and there are moments of sovereign you know inspiration but there's also these places where you know god has put desires in your heart and he wants to partner with you and bring those things into being and they're very they they are part of the plan but there are so many with me though that i have too many things that i wanted to innovate and sometimes oh my gosh lord wait a minute i have to go and stop and and really think of which one first right well you do you have to you actually have to really connect with like where do i i normally you know i know how to gauge it like this where does time disappear where don't where is it that i don't feel time is it in this idea is it in this idea that i can go into it for like four or eight hours and just you know that's the one that you want to start out with because that's the place where you're having time dilation and you're you're actually operating out of the eternal but you're not realizing it you know and you're just loosing yourself with the lord in this process and so normally start with the one that is burning the most and commit follow through and produce i'm having so much joy in my i'm just having so much fire and joy in my heart when you're talking oh my god where oh my gosh the dilation of time i love that word i'm an optometrist dilation you use in your eye your pupil you know but dilation of time it god stretches your time no but actually god doesn't stretch the time you're just in that in that zone oh my gosh because you love what you're doing because you're called for it oh my gosh actually that's actually simple right we just have to really like we just have to let ourselves go sometimes oh no i can't do that because you know no you can it's there inside you you have that desire because god put it there and there is a way in time for it there is that's exciting i'm excited because the people that are watching right now we are activating them as they listen right breaking off every box in your brain that you are actually going to innovate even as soon as we finish this wait don't innovate yet you you finish what we're talking here first and listen first okay now we let's go into thought leaders hmm how to become a thought leader and how to manage your thoughts okay well i think that thought leadership comes out of unique thought you know again it's that unique thought that is different than the rest right and that unique thought in itself has leadership because it's ahead of its time but you know we don't always start in that place or even recognize you know and actually validate the uniqueness in our thoughts thinking well i think that everybody thinks that you know and you might you know and i'm not saying necessarily like things something that nobody has ever thought about before but think beyond the trend around you you know and the and the place where that comes out of is really out of a place of connecting with the lord with the wisdom of god and allowing the divine intelligence of the lord to begin to infuse your intelligence and it begins to um you know frame your frame your your concept um and your perspective in a unique way and usually thought leadership comes by questions usually it's about the questions that you're asking yourself um about your process and you know ask the lord to give you questions to pursue rather than just trying to be like well why isn't change here why isn't this happening or why why can't i get my breakthrough or what you know those are important questions that you know there may be warfare or whatever but what about questions that you haven't asked you know it takes wisdom to actually write have the right question and so when you have the right question then god can take you into a unique thought and out of that question you can begin to develop thought and then the thought and the idea becomes so strong that it actually leads your framework leads your flow of thought and you know what you gravitate to and it you know eventually what you actually talk about right so out of the abundance of the heart mouth speaks right so so you you can create thought leadership first by asking what is the question that i need to be asking myself and just ask yourself that question research it you know if it's a concept start researching it and then the lord will start feeding your imagination your logic your reasoning all of that he'll start feeding it your conscious subconscious mind to be able to create a unique thought pattern that sets you apart and then people are going to be like how are you thinking on those levels and it's just because you've asked the right question i tell you fee uh there's quite a lot of people and you know i there was a time because i was a mom and i was this and how you know in in a certain time of my life wherein you know you kind of do routineary stuff you know there's a season in my life that i it was originally i'm not so sure whether you had a season in your life or you were you're routineary as well you had that routine all the time wherein as soon as my kids come out of the our nest we're thinking okay what am i good at and what am i what am i now going to do because you know some some people they they've been focused for example in their work all their lives they've been working working working working all of a sudden now they don't work all of a sudden they don't know anymore who they are what their what they're good at what capabilities i love what you said ask god to give you questions at the end of the day is the source of every single thing you don't you don't understand ask god if you don't have faith ask god if you don't have um desires for anything ask god ask god you know at the end of the day he wants to do things with you guys he wants you to be a thought leader because all of us have some thought in there that creates you no you're created to be a leader but there's a thought in there that i want that that i want that that unique thought yes lord unique thoughts in jesus name okay yeah um how about that um the word that says you have a self-control does that can that apply in your thought as well self-control yeah um yeah it can you know you can um self-control is the fruit of the spirit right so you can actually really you know if you're a highly creative person and you kind of you know tend to like go everywhere which is good you know it's part of your process but you can hone that in and actually create a little bit of structure and use you know begin to harness some self-control to focus your idea more and then you know when you come out of that structure you can let go and just go back into ideation and just imagining with the lord and that's fine but self-control also you know there might be some some dimensions where the lord has to refine your your imagination has to refine refine your your thought process and that might take some pruning you know like um i want you you know that you might feel like a certain nudge of the holy spirit to go in a specific direction in your mind and you know obedience is a great example of of self-control it's saying no to everything else and yes to one thing right and so but in that one thing god can multiply you and you can fulfill all right as much as as he desires you to fulfill so i think that self-control is super important because it creates discipline and when you have discipline you have structure that allows you to produce i think that self-control is actually a main contributor to the production and execution of ideas i mean i know so many creative people and i was i i have i have struggled in this place of actually bringing production to a lot of the ideas or just creative processes that i like that that i have and it's almost like i have to choose to commit and to follow through and that is going to take some governance of self-control to be able to focus your energy into a priority so it's not specializing in you know versus generalization like i was saying it's more about how can i focus into a priority but the priority unifies everything in you so when you are saying it's like when the bible says you know seek first the kingdom and everything else will be added unto you that's self-control because you're not seeking everything else you're seeking the kingdom but everything else is added mm-hmm how do you you know in ephesia in philippians also it says you know think of thoughts that are amazing and lovely think of thoughts that are you know praise worthy and all those things but i'm so sure in there think of thoughts that are innovative and think of thoughts that you know that are beyond your thoughts i i want to add that one in there oh okay because [Laughter] you know so because you know our our the battle is in the mind and so to be creative right to be creative you get so distracted with so many things that you're thinking about that actually you're not called for so you know it is it's good to control yourself and you know in focusing your mind into whatever god is calling you for wow how about you know spiritual and cultural architecture do you mind giving us an example of that oh my gosh yeah i think that spiritual and cultural architecture has to do with how do you build the thought how do you build um the idea so that it actually embodies a form that people can comprehend can look to can identify with and can begin to even imagine with and you know resonate with and so when you're architecting something you're looking for an order you know architectural comes out of a place of order so to create a cultural architecture of heaven or a spiritual architecture of heaven you have to understand first of all okay this is the thought and this is the idea okay and then from there you say what is the order you know what how how what would be priority here you know and then you you begin you write it down you know you write it down and then you start seeing you know how it fits in in relationship to spirituality meaning on the spiritual end of things or how it fits in culture how it's relevant how it can shape um you know as futurists people who have vision for the future are shaping the future you know so your thought in the in what comes out of you has an order that can shape this the earth now and shape the future like there's an effect in how you build so architecting something is asking okay you've shown me the idea you've shown me what's priority now how how do we build it you know how do we create this on the earth and so it's looking at how do these pieces how do these little points that i have of revelation connect you know is it an emotional connection is it a heart connection is it a you know imaginative connection like where you know how does it connect and how does it expand and actually have a form that people can actually identify and that's really what architecting um comes out of you know you can actually it's all about the thought leadership and how to build it it's knowing how things connect it's knowing how things are are established how things are are solidified and um you know that you have to you know wisdom built in in proverbs 9 it talks about how wisdom built her house right it had seven pillars so there were seven things that established wisdom the house of wisdom in such a way that it lasted so it's thinking okay i want to build this thought but i want it to last so you have to build and know how things fit together so jesus talked a little bit about this in the gospels where he talked about don't build in the sand but build in the rock so that's revelatory architecture right there you know you start in the rock you start you start in the solid and you don't build in the sand so that it lasts and then from then on you know i mean scripture you go through the book of zechariah the book of nate nehemiah and it's all about architecture so um oh my goodness so was it was it hard for you in the beginning when you get a thought and how you know how does your process look like i mean as personal process that you you have just an example yeah um i think that so when the idea for for the uh machine learning that i'm working on came to me um it was kind of a foreign thought honestly and at first it was like you know not all thoughts come like this but this one came like this some of them are really subtle right but this one was almost like it just went off inside my head and i spent several days in this place of awe like i was just in awe of like thought thought came from the lord like there's just like i know that i know that it came from the lord yeah and so then i had to go through a process of awe and then i had to go through a process of wonder as to like i wonder how i could do that how would i go about doing this is it even possible you know and then i i actually transition into this place of like okay i'm gonna make some calls some phone calls and ask experts in that field you know if this is possible and so then i transitioned to yes it's possible so then i was like okay now how do we do this well the next thing would be let's have a on-site conversation so then the thought the idea the thought that came began to take form but i actually had to really let the ah wash over me let the wonder wash over me and then and then the process and the strategy began to be birthed um but you know i have moments where i actually um dream a lot with the lord like i have to have my thinking time with god like daily so and it's sometimes very long you know it's unusually long for for not everybody you know can can has the same grace right so you start where you're at but for me sometimes it's like five hours sometimes i can be in a thought with the lord for 10 hours if i have like the free time to do that where i'm just thinking i'm just processing i'm mulling things over i'm i do maybe some research i i pray it out i ask for more dreams you know i pray in the spirit um so i do a a myriad of things in my own process to help me and then i also i'm i'm educating myself so if the lord is talking to me about technology or economy then i start you know reading up on technology and um you know economy or whatever field he's speaking to there's nothing wrong with you pursuing i think that sometimes there's this misconception that if you pursue to educate yourself you're almost like cutting out the lord where he can like download it sovereignly and i think that with all your your understanding you know gain insight so the lord once says you know daniel was given a grace a tenfold grace right to be he was ten times better than anybody else in in in babylon but he also studied you know it says that he studied the literature of the babylonians he had to study it and so it wasn't just the sovereign thing it was that that other peace partnered and the lord knew how to use his mind to circumvent and see things differently beyond what he was actually seeing but it gave him a grid yeah um this process is actually you know does this process is your process actually mostly or you know for is your project for example um what's the longest what's the longest time that you actually spent on uh on a project and what's the shortest time you spend on a project well i think that the longest time i'm like ideating the the project um before like taking any action before okay um i would say i gave myself six months six months before it took no five months before i took action on it like real real like legitimate action i gave myself five months to really process it now the reason why that one took so long was because it shifted me completely from from just doing prophetic ministry to innovation like it was like a really hard shift and so i had to seek a lot of counsel a lot of advice like it's this you know so i i took my thought my idea to different people that i trust and i i used them as a sound board and then i made decisions but other thoughts you know um i think that it just depends on the on the thoughts some of them you know you can't hurry a thought like you have to let it like really go through you like it has to go through every dimension of your mind because you can you can get a thought and then you can engage it to a level but it's shallow like you haven't really explored it and you have to let it just go through you and let it let the cycle of the thought and the experience of the thought come through you so sometimes now um when a new thing comes forth i think that it's probably usually about sometimes it's like five days to like three weeks where i like i'm really germinating in the thought yeah yeah no i i'm asking you that because i wanted people to understand that you know everybody has their own grace to be able to you know process things as as the thought comes in or as an idea comes into you don't hurry but at the same time you know because if it doesn't really germinate on you after two weeks of trying it you know it's gone it needs to really you need to know that it's really really really you know what god wants you to do as well right because if not you know you get so discouraged and so distracted so easily and plus you know when you do something you know so many things so many aspects are are are involved and you know human human responses as well right i mean it's not because you have an idea let's do it and then you know everything falls into place no there's there's quite a lot of things that are that you're going to be facing some giants some some obstacles and all that so it really has to you know you have to be very sure that you know you you you um you heard it from the lord and you you got it right yeah anyway how about um i have these three different um words that i wanted to ask you about so that you can just go and expand a little bit on right okay how do we as humans help transform the world through dreams wonder and truth in christ okay you know transformation is bringing is making something new right bringing it into like its fullness and um i think with dreams um supernatural dreams you know like dreams that you dream at night you know there's power in in that breath of revelation coming through your life um that can inspire other people to like hey you know what if like i believed for that you know whether they're believers or not you know the lord will pour out his spirit upon all flesh believers and unbelievers so you can as your dream life can inspire even an unbeliever and they can begin to ask questions and that comes to the next place of wonder right wonder is really um this place where you you know where something is introduced into your life and you know you go through that moment of awe and it's like wow and you can walk away from that and be like that was awesome or you can let it really go through you and you can begin to ask questions and that place of wonder where you're actually like i wonder why that happened like that was so unusual like if you're not going that extra measure of like asking some questions even if they're like questions that you feel will never be answered that's not the point the point is to get your mind open for the lord to introduce new information so experts in neuroscience and psychology discovered that when an individual experiences a moment of awe there's a there's a facet in their brain that shuts off where normally there would be like preconceived notions and ideas come upon the experience it shuts off so that you can actually be like wow you know and new information can come in so in the process of wonder you know you are you are letting new things come into your heart and into your mind and that generates a question and so you can actually bring transformation through wonder by bringing the awe of god into the earth and allowing people allowing culture to begin to ask questions within themselves and the question process you know harnesses this facet of mystery which empowers wonder and so the if you can reveal the mystery in such a way that you release the wonder and somebody who who was like a wonder visionary and futurist was walt disney like he literally like he wasn't he wasn't the type of a visionary that was solution driven he was wonder driven and so he brought he revolutionized the entertainment industry so how do you do it it usually is going to look through art through entertainment and through innovation it's wonder tends to work best in those dimensions but i believe that you can you can do it anywhere you know if you are carrying the wonder and you're stewarding the wonder that you have with the lord whatever you put your hand to it's going to translate because it's part of you so you can impart wonder to anything that you put your hand to even if it's cooking a meal even if it's i mean there is there is power in what you're carrying right and and this and so in the truth of christ it would be how do i bring something into the earth that will begin to generate questions about him you know like is this god real is this is this even possible does he love me you know could he really redeem me could he really heal me all these things are part of of this wonder you know component that are generating questions for people to ask about the lord absolutely absolutely that goes into that we we that connects with our next question the vastness of god go for it the vastness of god vastness of god so the vastness of god is like my favorite i um i love outer space if you haven't noticed and um [Laughter] the reason why i love outer space is because it's just beautiful number one but number two it's the one place in creation that i can actually feel the love of the lord the most more than like looking at oceans more than mountains more than anything it's like i actually feel love like it's the the feeling and the emotion but it's also just the never-ending nature of love and so when i think of vastness i think of outer space just this expanse that is growing and growing there's no end to it and there is this um there is this quote by this uh the scientist slash monk um from back in like i want to say like the 1400s and um his name was actually his name was actually giordano bruno so he had my my last name was his first name and he had this quote about this dream that he had about the cosmos and how when he was in it and when i was reading this i was like this is exactly what i feel he said that when he was in the stream he could see all of the cosmos and the moon and the stars and everything and it was as if there was no up or down but just the feeling of just falling in love like it was that feeling and so to me the vastness of god yes is infinite yes it's never ending but it in it in it of itself in its very nature it's the inexhaustible love of the lord that is ever-present and not ever present but also a resource that we can connect to and and be empowered by you know so that we can reveal that never-ending nature of love so to me that's what the vastness of god is is that there is no end but it's his love that there it really has no end you know um it crosses me really it causes me to go you know raise my hand sometimes when i just have that in me and i feel that because i feel like i i feel the expanse of god within me that wants to come out you know and it's and you're right you know it's the the love of god really fills us up and and and brings us to that place where there's just it's just it's just so beautiful and it it's indescribable i i you know the word indescribable for me so i'm i'm very ex excited that you can actually explain things like that because for me i just feel it and i just cry really i mean at the same time you know um you being able to go and exp you know uh get the the dream and the wonder and the truth together because at the end of the day our our processing our walk has to go through that honestly right yeah okay you you haven't okay i didn't write this to you but i want to throw it to you anyway are you ready what are the things some somehow sometimes that discourages you when you when god gives you an idea or something like you know a project what is it uh most of the time where in your where in your um journey or where in your process do you do you have this frustration sometimes i think the frustration sometimes comes where i feel like i am not wired for it okay you know like you know with innovation i was like well i can do so many other things better you know like why why this you know like i haven't studied it you know so there's this level of um just i see you know the sense of inefficiency but really is that place where the lord begins to meet you with his grace to empower your intellectual power your ability to communicate and all of that um so there there's that tension at times i don't have that so much right now but at the beginning of this journey a year ago i would wrestle and i was like lord i don't i feel like i'm the wrong person for this you know and um and i just had i just had to say yes i'm like well god you know i'm just gonna say yes you know and then the grace came um i think that the the other the next one would be that wrestling when you don't quite have the language for it and you're trying to share maybe with a close friend or even just your own process like writing it down and it's just sort of locked up inside of you like you like have it you know it but you can't articulate it and it's that when you're still generating the language and putting things together you know um you're still constructing meaning and so you have to let yourself just be in the moment and allow the lord and then just go through the process i think that sometimes we want to we want to shortcut or hack the process and at times i think that that you can learn some hacks you know spiritual hacks to to to get around things um you know not waste your time in the little things right but right um that would be you know another one and i think that there's always that sense of frustration that sort of rises up where you feel like you're kind of like just way ahead you know of your time but you don't really see yourself it's not like oh i'm like this amazing person that's so far ahead it's almost like why on earth do i think like this and like why in the world do i just like gravitate to this like why can't i do it this way you know and it's almost like this tension of like yeah well you could you know do it that way but but it's about you know what what the lord is pulling you into and embracing that and knowing that that you are probably going to be ahead of of your of your circle you know you're going to be ahead of your time and you have to just make peace that you're actually bringing the future into being you're bringing it here well i just wanted to make sure that everybody knows that you're normal even if you're wow um okay last question um how would you encourage people um or please encourage people that they're actually born for something supernaturally great that they are extremely unique that they have something to contribute and that they are actually futuristic in their nature as well how i mean can you just encourage them please yeah of course you know i think that um number one you know you are created in the image of god and being created in the image of god in it of itself um denotes that you are actually highly creative that you are intelligent that you are capable of things that are impossible and so i would encourage you to to be bold and ask those questions that even you haven't been letting yourself ask you know like could it be possible that that i could do this you know in this little thing that is swirling in my head could with the lord let me you know and it's not about what the lord let me it's giving yourself permission to dream with god and allowing him to empower you to do it and um you know be intentional about the fact that you actually are carrying the glory of christ in you and that glory has to come out in some way or form and it is supernatural you are a supernatural being and you have a great capacity to transcend where you're at right now to go beyond it and really touch something that you know no one else has touched or maybe nobody in your family has touched before but you have you have the power of the holy spirit not just to to survive but actually to dream something so much more and so no matter where you're at you know dare to to just ask those questions dare to dream give god a chance to actually unlock you because sometimes we're so locked up we're so set we just don't even think that it's possible that we shut ourselves off and our own unbelief coming in this form of fear limits god in his ability i mean god you know it talks about this in the bible where where the israelites limited the lord because of their fear because they saw themselves as grasshoppers so don't see yourself as a grasshopper you are a powerful being in christ and you have capacities and ideas that you know the vision the things that he's written for you to accomplish um small and big are supernatural and you have permission from the lord to be completely abandoned into into those things that are burning in your heart that are connected to his heart right yeah i mean you know um that's why i i i also uh wrote the book the power of obedience from nothing to something because really all of us i believe so much that we are called for you know a certain group of people or if not the world you know but you know whoever i can't reach you can you know so there there's a need in there that you you can meet that i can't you know all of us have all these you know all of us are um you know uniquely made for a unique tribe not tribe but you know brothers and sisters that are needing whatever it is that you are supposed to go and give to them but yeah just let yourself be unlocked today is that's a good that's a good word unlock yourself i need you to promote what you do girlfriend because you these people guys you have to you have to come into her classes and go to her website please uh let them let them know your website and you know what you're doing what you're up to right now uh where you're going you're all over yeah i have the space yeah you can actually my uh my itinerary is not up on my website just because with covid i've sort of you know been online the whole time so most of the time i've been letting people know online on my facebook but so you won't see my schedule but i do have something coming up um october 22nd through the 24th i will actually be part of an innovation um gathering and it'll be online and it'll be myself and theresa deadman from uh bethel and also angela meer who is the one the host and actually a speaker for the conference and she's an incredible innovator and just she's just a great incredible person so um you can sign up for that you can probably look through for it on my on my facebook because i have made the announcement there but other than that i also have a great workshop coming up on september 12th and it's online it's three hours long and it's called dream coherence so what this course and workshop is about is how is processing your dreams in a different way instead of just trying to interpret them you know how do we pray through through blockages in our dream life whether they're soulless dreams or maybe something that keeps coming up in the dream that seems to be like well i don't know i've never done anything like that and i don't know why there's this like issue there or like why i keep dreaming about this and it doesn't feel like it's the lord or maybe how do i work through the worry and the fear that is in my soul that creates traffic and blocks the flow of the spirit to release dreams that are from the lord so i teach you how to bring greater coherence in your mind your heart and your body so that you can dream better and then i also will start talk you know we'll touch a little bit on just you know the brain as a quantum field and like god's divine intelligence is a quantum field and just the effect um in our that happens in our interaction and how we just the shift of perspective just creates a whole different scope of possibility in the dream in your dream life so if you want to just be unlocked in a whole other level take the dream coherence workshop i highly recommend it i have seen major fruit in my life um out of it just just levels of peace and patience have increased just by by um you know just engaging dreams differently and i'm gonna i will actually have a prayer model that i will do in the workshop and take you through prayer um like you know extended prayer where you i'll teach you how to pray through different facets of your dreams so that you can gain the substance of the dream beyond the form of the symbols that you're seeing so yeah it's going to be a powerful uh power powerful workshop you can sign up at fiorella giordano online.com okay and and that's my e-courses in in you know different thing i just finished the mentorship program but i will be having one another one and usually for those that only take 10 people and it's called infinite hearing mentorship and it's for people who want to come out of their box basically you you know you want to be mentored in doing that one wild idea and it's two labs two group labs it's just 10 people so it's very intimate and then you know you'll have a one-on-one one-hour session with me where i will envision with you and coach you into how to actually see your vision on a greater magnitude and so that's infinity mentorship and i don't have a date for the next one because i just completed this one but i will have if you you know if you sign up and subscribe to my website you will actually um you will get you know an email about it and the third thing that i'm doing which i'm so excited about is my 100 days of wonder so october 4th i am launching out this initiative of 100 days of wonder basically what we're doing is saying yes to god and um and you can engage to whatever level you want you know if it's just you know i just wanna you know i just wanna be reading feast posts on on the hundred days you know on facebook then that can be your engagement but if you wanna take it to the next level you can actually purchase your own wonder box so whatever fits your budget i have a wonder box that i bought you know it's it's about this big and then i have like three other little boxes inside of it and i've categorized it for okay i'm gonna spend these hundred days expecting the wonders of god and i'm actually gonna chronicle and and keep mementos of those moments with the lord so that i can actually pass on the testimony of wonder to another generation to my nephews to my nieces and they can carry the the story and um and so you know you'll be looking for curiosities things that spark your your interest maybe there are some synchronicities you know maybe you're seeing numbers or like new numbers and there's like all this like connection happening in the in revelation and just traction and movement or maybe it's anomalies you know it's maybe it's that randomness that unusual thing that begins to happen in your life and you can begin to journal it keep like keepsakes of it and um whether it's a screenshot and you know you you you print that out or whether it's a rock on the ground or i don't know just whatever it is you know you can actually keep it in your wonder box and it's all for the purpose of that and then on the third level you can follow the quantum storytelling narrative that i'm developing and it's called dream effect and it's going to be on youtube and i will be releasing um just a new a unique prophetic narrative that you will follow and you can engage with your wonder boxes and i know i'm very i'm being very cryptic but it's on purpose um because it's still a mystery so i want to engage your you know remember i said mystery is important for wonder so there's this whole mystery side of it but that will be accompanied with an app so the app will come out on october 4th and on the app you will be able to post you know and share with us so that we can actually trade notes and say oh my gosh i'm having the synchronicity or i'm having this anomaly and could there be a greater storyline developing in us engaging that's why it's called a quantum storytelling because it's not just me telling the story but it's about how your effect in the storyline actually creates a greater narrative and a different dimension of narrative so with that said that will all be launching on october 4th through january 11th and you can follow along as some as much as you want so for that go to fiorella giordano dot io and subscribe to the mailing list so that you actually get the email with all the instructions and all the options that you have it's completely free so you know it's up to you as much as you want to engage but we're going to finish this year strong so we need it yeah i mean being in a constant awe and wonder of god is really the way to go in life it's a secret of life at the end of the day you know he is the one that we are actually focusing on wow thank you so much fiorella i love you so much you're amazing you're just too amazing like that oh it's so cute you know i spoke to her in in the house or where where we gather in the evening there and she was already giving me insights okay why don't you do this and build this with this with this dream of yours you know it's like she has just so much wisdom in her mind and her heart is so big and expansive it's just amazing is somebody you would want to be with and hang with i mean this this this thing in october 4th i that sounds extremely exciting i think we all should join that one so fiorella so let's go and and support that no actually not support that help yourself by going there yeah and they can find they can find a link to my courses in that website as well so yeah they can just quickly go every day and you they can also follow you on facebook so every day just something like nuggets of wisdom there and uh you know and i'm sure you know she's so approachable you can just go in and text her you know whatever your questions are or you ask me and then i'll ask her if you don't want if you can't get her and so my sweet fiorella giordano i want you to go and say a blessing over every single person that we are we are in agreement that their minds their hearts their spirits are all synchronized together and be unlocked right now for the greatness of the lord within them okay father i thank you for the divine design of every person watching this broadcast lord i thank you god that they're fearfully and wonderfully met created lord and you god have dreamt about them the sum of your thoughts towards the lord are beyond comprehension lord and i pray right now that there would be an awakening of the imagination that is inside of you of what you have dreamt for them god and that they would begin to dance and join in the movement god of your heart for them or that they would be activated in ways that they have never imagined lord i pray god that every limit would be begin to be broken off lord any any limit that has been imposed by man any limit that has been imposed by the enemy right now every every image of us and form cast upon them god that is the limit or that inhibits their divine design we just break it off in jesus name and we lose the wonder of the divine design that they have been created with we lose the function we lose the flow of who they are in you god the fullness of their identity and potential in you lord i pray father for great fruit to begin to come out of their lives god that that there would be such an irradiance of your glory out of their life god because of the fruit of because of what they're putting their hand to for because of the things that they're daring to believe you for god father we just say we believe you we believe you we believe you lord and i just i just speak into the seed of faith in every person to be energized to be stirred every every spiritual gifting every spiritual aptitude every spiritual competence right now awakened in jesus name natural competency awakened in jesus name intellectual competency awakened in jesus name right now holy spirit that the wisdom of heaven lord would begin to flow through the fullness of their being everything in them god everything in them lord in jesus name amen oh man thank you so much i don't want to go i don't want to go there's just so much we need to continue to have you back again fee and let us know how we can support you and you know thank you so much i honor you girl thank you so much for having me so i appreciate you i'll see you again soon though okay all that right okay

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Published: Fri Sep 04 2020