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everybody welcome to the era of wisdom as we get started here we'd love for you to give a shout out where you're watching from I'm gonna make sure I can get on here I want to see all the good comments and derogatory ones as well perhaps that's the point ok thanks so much for tuning in we're really excited about this Arun and I were talking the other day about doing some type of the online goody and we thought why don't we invite some good friends and that's what we've done so we've got Dan McCollum with us all the way from Vacaville California yeah he is the director of sounds of the nations and prophetic company which are two amazing things and our other great friend Fiorella Dallas Texas bringing the goodness in lots of different ways thinking outside the box so it's awesome to have you guys and of course a rim I see you all the time man it's good to see ya and it's ready California that's it we got Kentucky here in the house Fort Mitchell Kentucky Dan oh you were in Kentucky 12 years 12 years awesome so thanks again for tuning in if you're just popping on we would love to hear from where your you're watching from I'm sure it's indoors in your house because it's the co good life that's what you're doing I can guarantee you're not watching this at a restaurant but we are glad that you are tuning in so we wanted to just jump in and really invite you into what word is calling like a living room conversation here and so pretend you're in our living room and of course we're six feet away from each other but we are in this living room and we're going to have a fun conversation and so did you have a question Danna no I was just making sure I was six feet away we've got Calgary here we've got Connecticut awesome New York good to see you so Danno we'll start with you so obviously there's lots of stuff going on in the world globally lots of changes that are happening people have had to make major adjustments in their life and pivot into things that they really probably couldn't really anticipate and so I don't think the the question is are things gonna look different as we move forward I mean there's gonna be a paradigm shift but my first question be what are you kind of sensing as things are moving forward and progressing that you feel like the Lord's doing yeah and the body and the earth and just maybe you just feel personally but and then the second question coupled with that is where do you see wisdom and all of that as we begin to traverse into really uncertain uncertain times yeah wow those are a lot of questions and they're all really good for me I you know just this last week I've been wondering if this isn't about Sabbath in a way and I know that sounds a little weird but there's several times in scripture where things would happen to the Israelite people because they hadn't honored the principle of Sabbath and so you know even some folks went into captivity because they because the land needed a rest and and I don't mean that like in any kind of judgement way cuz I'm not I've not been here that but but there is a sense of of Sabbath and you know the Lord's Sabbath in the book of Genesis was to look at all he created and say it was good and then to rest and to refresh and you know recreation the form of that is recreate you know recreation and I feel like I'm probably busier now than I was before all minutes that's true yet there's still this sense of Sabbath there's still this sense of really finding rest you know a new place of rest in the Lord a new place of rest with family you know and and an opportunity to recreate ourselves and that's where Brian I feel like the wisdom comes in is that I I am so thankful to the prophetic foundation that I received from all the people that went before us you know I mean it's a great great foundation but I do believe that ours is the generation to build on that foundation to build something on top of the foundation of apostles and prophets that we've been handed and and that's where wisdom comes in I feel like those that have pursued prophesy primary primarily as a corrective tool you know to rebuke to point out error and sin and discipline and all these kind of thing I feel like the thing is about that that at best it brings me back to zero it just brings us back to a place of health it doesn't actually release the new thing it just constantly recycles the old things and and I feel like the Lord has been positioning prophetic people to to be builders and to build with wisdom to build with solutions to build with ideas to build with innovations and inventions and and and it's not that we leave repentance behind but repentance ultimately in its essence is a renewing of the mind you know that affects our behavior so yeah I see this incredible opportunity to recreate ourselves to find a Sabbath in the Lord in the land even in our economic system but I don't see it as a I don't see it as a inner like as a okay the the virus is a bad thing not from the word let me be clear about that right but the Lord has this incredible ability to take what the enemy has meant for evil and turn it around for good to give the land arrest to give the environment arrest to have us rethink economy rethink priorities and out of that is the opportunity to embrace wisdom on another level so that's so interesting just talking about giving the land arrest I've in the last couple days I've seen these videos one was you had these coyotes on the beach with the Golden Gate Bridge behind which these coyotes are never on a beach right yeah and then you've got lions laying in a Safari main pathway just laying all on the ground because no one's been there and that's a really powerful point of just even the land itself getting an arrest it's powerful I mean a room that's I feel like a big part of your life message is the importance of finding that rest in the father what do you feel like in a sense of you know I think someone could strive for wisdom really in a sense right right trying to get something what what do you feel like the role of arrest is in the midst of wisdom yeah man it's good it's really good it you know you just mentioned just some changes in the climate you know for instance the creation is getting a rest you know and we see that through like in India right now you can in northern India you can view the Himalayas from the first time you know I mean from from northern India because of the pollution dropped so the earth is getting a major reset the earth is getting debris you know we're getting to breathe deeper and more clear than ever before you know getting outdoors and then that also correlates with a lot of things like I've been doing in in mind/body/spirit like in really training people to enter into states of rest by utilizing their divine design their physiology to enter into you know more conducive States to what we believe in our mind or what we believe in the scriptures as in the seed of rest what we know as a spirit being and so how do we solidify these things in the body and so I've been really taking through people through a lot of coaching to really solidify the seed of rest in their physiological you know in their bodies which has been awesome and you know we see like the in Hebrews we see the peril of unbelief right we see the Israelites moving through Egypt and we see that majeste step into a greater measure of trust if I could strive to enter into his rest if they could position their heart and their mind to comprehend his goodness that they would actually receive you know exactly what it is they're supposed to receive and they would live longer yeah we see we see the physiological ramifications from the psychosomatic so that the mind set position into rest and during this time and I think this is gonna go out to everyone watching it's we've we've been triggered in so many ways we've been tested in how much we trust how much we really trust in His goodness and the reality like he said they know that he can make all things work together for good to those who love him and are called according to his purpose so we've been able to like really test that and and hopefully all of us see those triggers come up and face some you know I mean in revamp our mindset so that are also our body set can be more conducive to receiving divine revelation so if we can position ourselves in this time on a place of trust we're gonna be in the right vibratory frequency for the the the witty inventions or the creative capacity that we have in our individual expression to come forth because we're more in resonance with his mind the mind of Christ which we've been given but we escaped we leave sometimes that promise land of his mind because of the cares of this world that choke the seed which is choked the mind so how do we stay in a place of rest in the midst of uncertainty and I know that's a message for all of us here and fruit and an authority we carry and that's really gonna give way to the creative capacity that we have as believers in the body so yeah that's a little bit come on man yeah yeah awesome very cool now fee I know we've had some conversations just about Solomon and the wisdom that he functioned in and I know that's something you you're passionate about has seen that really in a sense re-emerge and really go further because we have the mind of Christ we have more access than he had and yet he had a mind as limitless as the sands of the seashore man it's crazy in that line what do you mean we have more access than he had what are you saying there that's beautiful we're one with Christ we have the mind of Christ uh-huh you know I would argue he didn't have the mind of Christ he had access to to a wisdom but it was not in the measure that we have access because the finished work of Christ it's old old covenant which is to me less access okay where the fulfillment of the access is Jesus is ultimate sacrifice just bringing us into that infinite world of possibility but what's with Solomon fee like what do you see as far as you know you know there's there's a role for Joseph in the earth right a role for Daniel's in the earth what do you seen that with like a role for Solomon's in the earth yeah I think that you know we've had this conversation before so I'm just bringing everybody else into this conversation but um in something that the Lord has been impressive in my heart especially during this quarantine more so than it's become more emphasized and I feel that really the weight of the manifold wisdom of God and in it finding an expression through through us right and in something that has been highlighted to me has been the the idea of of building an age not necessarily building movements or ministries or even businesses but what what does it look like what look like if we were to build an age and that that dialogue with the Lord you know began out of this out of this sort of revelation about the next hundred years and are we only contending for foreknowledge but what about forethought right if there is foreknowledge there has to be forethought there has to be a divine it's like a government of divine intelligence and and with that you know there's here comes a flow through collaboration I don't feel like anybody necessarily has this you know this blueprint I think it's the collaboration of many people but you know how would we go about building an age and um and frame in the room and space for that to happen and I think somebody that did that really well with Solomon I think that he built something that was not just the nation but he really was a leader in the age that he was standing in and you know he builds a navy he built all kinds of Technology built a temple he you know he was well thought out by everybody I mean really he was kind of like the Elon Musk of his day you know um he was going places that people weren't thinking of going yes so I feel that um that that as we seek the Lord for for Thought for for actually the thought leadership that we need in order to be able to lead how we're supposed to lead and actually allow creativity that many times the church has quenched because it hasn't been understood allow the creativity and the innovation and to really bloom and you know reminded of Daniel 12:3 where it talks about that those who shine those who have insight will shine like the expanse right and those who have and those who lead many to righteousness like the Stars right so there's two dimensions of of splendor and really the expanse is the context of an age for the seasons and the leadership to come forth and so I think that many times we catch ourselves behind the wave so to speak because we haven't really taken initiative and been intentional in pursuing the the mind of Christ for this coming age awesome love it that's on that's awesome talking about building an age creating an age oh my goodness that's that's deep and that's wisdom I mean cuz I I hear some people when they talk about wisdom it's like this is so spiritualize yeah and yet it's like by wisdom the Lord founded the earth that wisdom to me is about the earth it's understanding you established the heavens understanding some it's about the heavens but wisdom is really about the earths about building something in the earth yeah you know by wisdom a house is built right I understand it's established so there's there's something tangible to it I think some ways in some ways the way wisdom has talked about it's not tangible it's this some hyper spiritualize thing where it's actually if we're really functioning wisdom it should be seen it should be felt we can touch this we can grab our hands onto there's something very physical to it and of course I was Solomon right he's building stuff that's the architecture the technology the design it's incredible that all this stuff began to manifest and that leaders of the earth would come who already had amazing architecture and stuff and yet we're completely overwhelmed by this yeah so it's super exciting I mean Dano along the same line what do you see is as far as I mean no this excites you that's a stupid question to ask but you know the excitement of seeing a generation emerge that really functions in because the way I'm seeing this is kind of people the body returning to spheres of influence like academia you know and the Jesus Movement we retreated from universities yeah this as far as academic roles yeah and then there was a great turning of universities to more atheistic faculties yeah so what do you kind of see your as far as that goes you know probably five or six years ago I felt like we a transition and and it's starting to come to fruition right now but that transition is I believe we've been in a 50-year cycle of primarily manifesting Jesus is the way and and that's been the emphasis on evangelism now we never leave that that's very important Jesus is the only way no other name given among men by which we must be saved but I believe about five six years ago maybe a little longer we entered into a transition where the focus will be on Jesus as the truth and that people will come through the gateway of truth to know the way of the Lord Jesus Christ much like the Queen of Sheba experienced that what was happening actually because information is the currency of our generation you know and and the one with the idea wins the one with the idea leads it's like our culture has already made that shift but the church hasn't fully made the shift kingdom thinkers are making that shift and understanding that that there really is a focus of the kingdom of God there is a focus of the father himself to manifest Jesus as the source of all treasures of wisdom and knowledge and and it's going to become the primary focus and people will come to the way of Jesus through the truth that people are thinking that people are presenting as through our divine union with Christ we are accessing the treasures of wisdom and knowledge there in his person it so I think it's even bigger than a now thing I actually think we're a few years into a fifty year cycle and arune I think you are one of those people who is actually teetering on this age and the next stage because the next stage has to do with manifesting a quality of life abundance of life that is beyond our current paradigm and you're already pulling on the next stage and establishing some of the the the the basis of truth that will be needed for that to be sustainable in the next generation no Muhammad Wow yeah right on that's beautiful thank you you know this all this really this really brings me you know it to me it's like it's it's so mind-blowing to think that we've you know you just mentioned we have access we've you know we have access we've been imbued now with the treasures of wisdom and knowledge that are hidden in price like you Rob that scripture and I was thinking about that fee when you were talking Brian when you're talking it's the whole realm of divine intelligence and Daniel talks about the divine consciousness in you know Daniel 117 in mada you know and in possessing the divine consciousness and we've been given the consciousness of God the consciousness of Christ do you know Jesus Christ gave us his mind and to me I think every day I get my mind's blown over that reality and you know Danna you said something that man that this totally it just there's this whole reality of all systems go it's been it's been on my heart you know like you're talking about abundant life if you know it's you know when people say they mentioned and I mentioned I'm a mystic okay and I kind of mentioned that to get a psychological response from people to like what do you know what is that or what is you know I'm curious of that around I'm offended by that even right yeah and and and I do that maybe more of the latter yeah totally sometimes right and I do that because I also want to invite people into the reality that that's who they are you know it's you know that you'd be made perfect spirit soul and body you know the the mystic ality sort of speak is life in life abundantly it's what we've been given we've you know the definition of a mystic is one who basically transcends the natural order one who pierces the veil between worlds and who moves between worlds that's that's who we are you know what I mean we're seated with Christ in heavenly places we we are the Mystics you know what I mean and so in a way that that is this is through also understanding the reality of the body and it's not just about the emphasis on the body the the the fact that the spirit has been given to us to quicken the mortal body it's the reality that we're becoming whole again I think we're becoming when we're starting to comprehend the reality that we're this multifaceted being that if we can begin to really work with the divine nature we've been given this fearfully and wonderfully constructed physiology and this psychology by the power of the Spirit we can begin to unlock the the greatest technology of all which is what this this is this is the greatest technology you know in the DNA or hidden trove of information having to begin to carve out just how much just how much of storage capacity is within the DNA so I love that you know I love that I want to share something else but I want to I want to pause so well it reminds me proverbs nine says for me by by me your days will be multiplied in your years will be added to your life missus talking about wisdom proverbs 3:16 long life is in her right hand and her left hand are riches and honor and again I would I would argue that if we're if we're functioning and wisdom then it should be going to a cellular level it should be affecting our physiology to the point that there's life extension is normal for someone functioning and wisdom and that there's that there's resource as well that inner other hand is riches and honor that there's just people are drawn to you to honor you because your function in wisdom and again it's affecting not only building something in the earth but our relationships in the earth but fee as we as we roll onto this topic you know I loved what everyone was talking about of you know we're we're living in two worlds were off world and we're here at the same time and I know there's so much the Lord's been revealing to you of just the importance of understanding what's going on the heavens but also I having the wisdom to see that constructed in the earth what do you what do you see the Lord kind of in that building of a new age what would be some things that you'd say to someone like how do I even begin to tap into this for my life at an individual level I think that the first place is to start reading the book of Proverbs and in meditating it and praying it and I mean that's how I did it you know sorry yeah and there's power in the word but there's power and encountering the word right right and and when you encounter the word when you encounter wisdom it begins to change you it begins to change your mindset it begins to change your perception and like you know I think we've been touching on this that all of her paths are peace right when it comes to wisdom so peace and rest are key I believe that Solomon his name you know being peace right he could have never built but he built if he didn't have that settling that rooted peace within him and and I think that when wisdom begins to really come around your life you know there's there's a mark that that that she leaves by you know whether it's an upgrading and how you think or I really believe that there really are upgrades on a neurological level that you know that are activated bring your embrace that you weren't able to think before it's an empowering of the Spirit just as much as an empowering of the spirit upon it a supernatural gift and and so I feel that a lot of it is that wisdom has new requirements you know you cannot walk and pride you can't have you know your your your mouth can't be you know you can't be having perverted speech and there's certain things that you have to walk by a code and and as you walk according to that code you know there's a stewardship that is given to you because of the maturity that you're walking in and so I find that the more that I acknowledge the wisdom of God daily in my life and embrace her as scripture tells me to embrace meaning ah sneaking all of it in right yeah receiving her instruction receiving whether it's rebuke or worth whether it's you know whether it's an innovative idea whatever it may be to really receive and in in your heart space I think that's the best way I can describe it especially for people who are not necessarily opened up to to a continual flow of a mystical dialogue with the Lord which I'm thankful that you know I'm along all of you guys that you know we're kind of in the same space and it just feels like we understand each other right but there are some people who don't you know and they don't know where to start and so yeah I say encounter that the scriptures and one thing that I actually want something to unlock to me was I began to pray the the the blessing of Joseph over my life and the wisdom of God began to come around it and and I would pray that daily you know the blessing of the heights the blessing of the do the blessing of the of the ground beneath like everything that wisdom gifts comes out of that blessing and so I think that it's important to you know first you open up in that way and then you begin to see the advantages and the effect of wisdom in your life whether it's you know your health and you know goes to the next level or your finances I think that's like a big big part of the spirit of wisdom and around you is is the realm of Finance and she has a whole system of economy that I think that we understand the other side of it but there's a whole other side within that line of manifestation right that that hidden place that unseen place of the economy of the spirit of wisdom and something that I've been you know and Brian you know we've been talking about this is it ok for it if I go into this yeah but um just that the realm that with the reality that the our economy present-day economy is set on a system of death and the value system is because it's out of scared City time is valuable because there isn't much of it right and so when when we operate out of that mindset which is not the Lord's mindset at all he does tell us to counter our days but I believe that in him we can multiply that's really know our moments and our days so it's not about the expanse of a lifetime necessarily that counting your days but more about what system are we living out of him what economy are we living out of and and so when we when we begin to shift into the realm of wisdom we begin to operate out of a life out of eternal life economy and so we begin to see and and create and produce completely differently and I believe that the one of the first economies that God created was time but before it's fallen saved and then the second one was language I believe because language is what creates all economy all infrastructure I mean you go to all these nations and the nations that use beliefs have the strongest currency usually have one language and so there is this connection with language and economy but it's all about how this table Ward formed and created the cosmos in the earth out of his word so if that was the establishment the agreed value right where we came and partook of that life so I just you know I feel that those realms will open up as people begin to go to the word and encounter that's the spirit of wisdom through the word and then the encounters and everything else that's just icing on the cake and it'll happen that's beautiful yeah you you have a book that really dives into really the economy of time bending time yeah I mean if we're gonna be entering in an era wisdom as a part of this of course what do you feel like the relationship to time would be because I'm almost twice you guys his age but I'm young at heart that I meet you know in the 60s and 70s there was kind of this thing we were we were Jesus lovers but we were kind of like how close can we get to the world system without falling into it you know like that that seemed to be a little bit of kind of how we lived back then you know later 70s it was a whole different deal 80s but you know now the discussion is how much of the resurrected Christ can we have the earth without phasing out of this reality without knowing total of Enoch you know walk with God so closely that we are not anymore you know and it's like I mean conceptually that's kind of the goal is how much of the resurrected Christ life can we now have upon the earth and part of that is the economy of time that you know time is was created to be our servant not our master the idea of being mastered by time is is actually a Roman and Greek false God so when you say I don't have enough time you're practicing idolatry you're actually working the god of Chronos who was a grim reaper like character that devoured his own children and when you feel like you're being devoured by time or that your time is being devoured you're actually in a mental position of idolatry with the false god of Chronos and so there is this thing where the father created time to mark times and seasons for us and to rule the heavens but not to rule the earth where to rule and so he said it as a master in the heavens not a master in the earth a servant in the earth to mark times and seasons and special days for us and so we're entering into an Ecclesiastes 3 reality where for everything there is a time and a season for everything under that means you have time to do everything that God has called you to do and there's a season for everything that is within your heart and so we're starting to access our position of being seated in heavenly places in Christ Jesus where we're actually seated above the time realm and start pulling those third heaven positional realities into our time sequence and we're moving right now from time management to time Redemption time management is is trying to steward a limited supply of a of a substance so to speak and time redemption is actually multiplying time and making the most out of time and it's it speaks to quality of life it speaks to quantity of days you know Martin Luther actually understood this he said I have so much do today that I can't possibly get it done unless I spend the first three hours in prayer and worship so what did he do he sought first the kingdom of God and time was multiplied back to him and he was able to increase his productivity by focusing Kingdom first and in that Kingdom there is no limitations of time and we can pull that Kingdom into our time realm and move from the kindergarten of time management to the graduate school of time redemption come on love it there are room you know with Solomon most would say he asked for wisdom but it's not true yes for understanding and then wisdom came I think there's something about his his intention was on the heavenly realm by understanding the heavens were established and because of that he was given keys to establish what was happening in the heavens the architecture and technology of heaven so that would manifest in the earth and I know this is something you're personally very passionate about of off world on world I mean what in your journey have you learned as far as how to see those merge those realities yeah you know one way I can I can go into this is just through piggybacking off of Dano you know it's its own guide just so you know fear often masquerades as wisdom okay so just so you guys know people are listening this or maybe tuning in for the first time hearing things and realities that maybe they haven't been entertained yet okay and that does all types of stuff sometimes in the psyche but realize your growth is in transformation is typically right on the other side of you know of basically where you're at you know we often have to traverse into transformation through I know nothing right and I know that I know there's a sometimes it's like there's a tension there of I I know all things in Christ right and then there's also the sovereignty of God that causes us to realize that we know nothing and he's continually upgrading us and we're continually scratching the surface so there's so much to to to dig you know within this and it's not even so much it digging it's a just an access of rest and there you go like right in to what you were saying Danno with time and we're we're seated in Christ having me places and the earth is our footstool the earth is and our inheritance and we speak two cycles and seasons we we have the ability to supersede the natural order and that's how I even defined Union flow it's a state of being derived out of our fusion with the creator of all right out of our positional seat of authority yeah and that from that space of physician you know that space we supersede the limitations of the natural order and that's just for everyone that's just your default as the above born right that's your default operating system so get that you know get that system or become aware that systems operational in you you know and that that means each one of you are leaders each one of you carry the that's BIOS signature of the Most High God you carry that DNA and so when we have this we have this reality to speak to cycles and seasons and to bend time so to speak because where we are in you know eternal intelligence Brian you mentioned this before as well it's like we we have this eternal reality see you mentioned this and it's it's what it does is it it initiates a state of rest because when people we talk about long life or we talk about wisdom multiplying our days if it's not kneeling with the unrest in your life then you don't quite have the revelation and we're always just scratching the surface of that revelation but hear me if if we don't if we're become if we're getting constricted by the time realm the Chronos yes then we need to ask God give us an ability to actually access the seed of rest you've given us you know in the seed of rest if you've been privy to see it it's it's the most Shalom space yeah and the heavens yet it's the most dynamic and active at the same time you just can't see its movements because it's it's past your ability to comprehend it's flowing and moving so fast so the rest the seed of rest what it does in the place of rest is it it allows you to appropriate the greatest degree in quality of patience yeah when the biggest fruits of your days being multiplied or the reality that we have the access to the resurrected ascended Christ the one who supersedes all of the time and space what it does is it locks the realm of patient endurance Wow and you breathe deeply than you've ever breathed before and if you breathe more deeply than you ever have before that causes you to reset your vagal tone which we know the vagus nerve moves from the brainstem and it it correlates with all the major organs that like digestion or your your breathing your diaphragm your lungs your circulatory system things that are often triggered when you're in a place of anxiety yeah so this realm of patrons knowing that God is good and that we're positioned within the eternal seat and our citizenship and heaven ain't they outside of time and space domain that we then from that space look and we begin to impact the cycles the time the seas we begin to speak a different narrative to them and it's pretty much what we're all set one of the way it's another way to kind of describe what we're all talking about here as well you know the New Age is only created from the place of positional Authority of being able to speak to the current one sure from being situated in the different one right so it's it's really the fulfillment of John it when it went when John Jesus spoke through John and said if you abide in me and my words abide in you ask whatever you will it will be done and it's like if you resonate on the father's frequency and his voice is resonating on your frequency then when you speak that you virt you the universe will respond to your voice as if it was his voice they'll hear through you the same sound that created it and therefore respond and so that's that place of resonant entrainment with the voice of the Father that that you're speaking of I love it Wow I could listen to you guys all day come on go ahead feet yeah something that you were saying Arun and I totally resonate with what you're saying I've been really diving into the think that we look at our process so so much in an earthly context you know we look at our faith and even our progress and our failures through through a lens that is not necessarily completely truth right and so I started looking and asking the Lord I was like God you know I feel that the best way to really understand times and seasons I tell people all the time you know people ask me all the time he's like if you don't understand eternity you will never be able to understand time if you don't dive into that place of the eternal God you won't really be able to walk in the fullness of time because time the fullness of time is not a completion in a in a summarizing of things in the earth but it's it's the heavenly and the earthly coming together right for the administration of the fullness the times we're right according to Ephesians 1 so when I you so as I was processing this with the Lord I was like how do you have a process in your faith because if if faith is in me you have faith and in you operate out of a faith realm just as much as you want me to operate out but out of a faith route and so what is your process look like and it's really that space of rest you know that everything has already been completed you know every everything that is will be and everything that was you know will be everything that will be was right that whole cycle that is an equi CSE's 3:15 and I started looking at that and and the Lord really began to take into this placement where Jesus would talk about he would say certain things you know when you ask when he pray ask and receive as if you had already as if it had already been granted to you I mean he he laid out the principles for rest and actually walking out our faith out of an eternal continuum and not out of a linear time continuum and so it's in that space where we where we come into the Lord into the presence of God that he he takes us up into that into that place right where we can truly see and even you know where Jesus talked about the hours coming but it's already here like he did certain things in those places where he spoke like that and he was speaking out of a an eternal continuum and not out of a finite time even prophetic timeline it's not just me as much as we love prophecy you know it's so it is so interdimensional and I think that even in the prophetic or outlook is just it just if we look at it so linearly but I feel that there is true my goodness that's big there's an invitation happening right now into this conversation you know really coming into into that realm of peace but you know what does that mean I mean that's why Jesus you know not do but in Hebrews you know it says you know that if you will not enter the rest right unless you you know you walk away from your unbelief and you know disobedience or whatever there's a place of where you just surrender and I think that as the Lord takes us into this deeper places of surrender even on a cellular level I mean I know that I personally speak into those places to see if they were literal dimensions I mean they are but most people don't know even how to speak into this areas of your beam right and and even just you know what is into into the future version and into the past version and and there's this beautiful space where where things begin to almost begin to become something when the eternal was in the eternal that is to come begins to swallow up that which is I think there's there's their keys and in walking in communion with Lord that will revitalize your body and it'll be a mark and a sign for not only not only an expansion of life but really defined like what if we started entering into time defying miracles like a traversal and you know all kinds of stuff right I live in an area where I mean blocks from our house they're working on immortality you know life extension through all different technologies and biological types of things and so I feel like there's a passion for the world to see life extension and then some in the body of Christ can't wait to leave and I'm just like man there's there's something to tap into and I think on a practical level you know something I I pray often is I just receive the eternal life of Christ into my nervous system into every system my body to the cellular level I speak to my cells to be blessed and that the look the life of God the Zoey life of God that you know it's it's our life is good our body is good you know any teaching that devalues the human body is Antichrist you know Jesus could have come in any form but he chose the human frame for a deity to be expressed but I think that's an amazing invitation for us to come into the eternal life that he has given us I'm being applied to our body now I want to maybe shift gears just just a little bit here Dan I would ask you this question this is awesome stuff by the way everybody yeah but so good yes we're talking about building an age you know we know for many periods many years the church retreated from the systems of the world and it was expecting Jesus to return any second and because of that kind of relinquished their responsibility to govern and to have influence and there's been absolutely a re-emergence to come back to that ancient feature reality but what do you see as far as wisdom being expressed especially with all this happening with kovat things are going to change things going to change in the economy you know people aren't sure what business stuff is going to look like but in reference to the church you know most churches haven't had any meetings of any kind for you know seven going on eight weeks now and it's there you know some had to immediately become televangelists overnight to figure out how to do this online stuff where do you see the church kind of shifting first of all and then a second question along with that is where do you see the church emerging in these spheres of influence that might look very different than what we expect and the reason I'm saying is because I think some people's perspective is we're going to conquer this mountain and we're going to colonize this according to our particular and I my personal perspective is the info you know it's like Jesus like we wanted Jesus to be this one leader and he's going to be this go for sand it's like he didn't come in the package that people were really wanting and yet it was absolutely the kingdom and so what do you kind of see in that with the systems of the world I'm always frightened when people start talking about the seven mountains of society and it sounds like they're playing king of the mountain you know that game we played when we were little kids where you get a little bit of a hill and you push everybody else off and stay on top as as long as you could and unfortunately you know you you mentioned kind of a colonialism mindset that's what that is is that to to influence a mountain I have to push everybody else off and be at the top and I really believe that we're a Daniel generation serves serves the people that are already on top of that mountain that may not even know the Lord with Kingdom Intel and and the eternal intelligence so I'm hoping we're gonna get that you know I hope I'm gonna get there you know honestly right now kind of reminds me of the renewal of the 90s because what happened in 94 when Toronto and Pensacola and all this broke out one of the things that happen is people pastors were not able to speak they would stand in their pulpit and they would go into like a trance-like state or they would start laughing or they would fall on the ground or something and you know I lived through those days we had service every night for six months and then five nights a week for five years I didn't experience this once I experienced this thousands of times and it happened to me as well but when I asked the Lord you know somebody asked me actually and I had already asked the Lord about it that they said Danna why do you think God would do that where a pastor couldn't speak or you know that kind of thing and I'm like I think he's so tired of being misrepresented that he woke up and felt he's like let me shut you up and give you a little joy therapy you know what I mean and then let me put you on a joy detox like actually renew your mind but if you don't just be quiet and stop the insanity how can we get this back on track and I love the church I'm a church guy I'm a local church guy the church is the Bride of Christ and she's beautiful and and and so this is none of this is anti Church comments and yet at the same time we often superimpose our structures over what we think the Lord wants out of us no enemy and I actually liked the way that Ernest genteel presents the idea of the early church he said there were three systems there was temple there was synagogue and then there was ekklesia which is the word we use for church and he said the temple is where they met for prayer and worship the synagogue is where they met for fellowship and mutual conversation questions and study and and and and synergy of ideas and ekklesia is how the kingdom was represented in the marketplace and I'm like in in my 40 years of you know being a minister being a pastor you know we had this struggle to try to get the church into the world not knowing that we were actually in the temple and church was actually what was happening out in the world and I feel like even you know Fiona Fiorelli we talked about the of the language that one of the ways we began to shift the age and shift the culture and begin to transition is through language and I just found that language so helpful because the church really did function in all three of those but the way they defined church was actually that that apostolic transformation team that was affecting society and I feel like wow we've got an opportunity while we've been on done once again you know it's been 25 years since the renewal undid us so we could start thinking Kingdom rather than just Church so we could start thinking grace rather than just rules and law we could start thinking Divine Union rather than disciplined attainment you know and like just we needed these mind shifts but we're due for another we're due for an upgrade and it's like you know there's some people that want so bad to get back to normal and at this and I sympathize with that honestly but I feel like what we need to do is contend for a new normal we need to not wait and see what history looks like like what's gonna happen next it's like quit asking and start to cream starting I mean start declaring when we had the when we had the eight-year drought here in California and um I I was I was going before the Lord and he said Dan I'll quit praying and I'm like what and he said quit asking for rain and tell me when you want it to rain and so I met with a hundred and twenty of our of our prophetic trainees and said guys what day do you think it's gonna rain and they said Wednesday the majority said Wednesday it's gonna rain and it's gonna be a record rainfall and that day I this in my book prophetic company but that day we had a record rainfall in 80 years and the drought and a lot of other people were doing things to we're not taking credit for that but what I'm saying is what happened in us is the Lord said shift from petition to decree shift from trying to prophetically discern what sovereignly is going to happen and begin to co-partner to co-create what you believe the father wants to release what's the new thing he wants to do and I think if we could get a hold of that within the church we could come up with a struck sure of of Church of Temple of synagogue that would serve better to it serve everybody better awesome it Arun Fiat lived here your thoughts along those lines too yeah ladies first as far as Reformation right we're talking about what about the mountains and like what we think what will see the Lord doing we've we've had some conversations just about whether its technology you know government like as people begin to emerge Solomon's begin to emerge well it's probably not going to look a particular way that maybe many in the church expected to yeah I think that you know we are a new creation and with that new creation there's a new creation mandate and that is you know to to release creation into freedom you know with the glory that God has put within us right that's our new mandate and I think that that the best way to go with the news to align with that and and to really embrace the new right because who's not you know nobody's above it like we could all judge something that maybe the Lord is gonna do and we could all be wrong right but I think that are the first key is knowing our position in the age and knowing that we're in a creation and this is how we're approaching and um when I think of transformation and I think of you know whether they're mountains or spheres or whatever I'm a little over that in the sense that I feel like there's so much more than just bringing a structure fix to something to a system that was never really birthed out of the heart of God that it's just sort of been assimilated you know through three years or however and I think that there is value to bringing light into those spaces but I feel that we need to up our faith into this place of like what if like we create new intersections for new mountains to terraform that really can fill the earth with right and I'm all about all about the intersections right there's this book called the Medici effect and it's all about how the greatest level of creativity doesn't necessarily come out of this like innate place to trying to create something that is above above everything else right or the new thing but it comes out this place of knowing how to merge different things so that the new can come forth and it's it's all about variations in theme yeah yeah yeah and so I think that we have to begin to really embrace even the polarities in our own callings you know individually speak and even you know and expand from that whether it's citywide or regional or whatever but I feel that the Lord really wants to do something new like there's a command behold right I'm doing something new and and we think that that's a suggestion but it's actually a command like the Lord is saying will you not be looking for this and will you not be part of it and and so I feel that as we begin to really be okay with that variable of the sovereignty of God and knowing that nobody really has it completely right in the sense of like we really don't know what's what it's going to look like but we can have the humility to receive the new thing and we can partner with with a new system I'm calling you the system of intersections I guess it's the best way I can describe it where we can really begin to combine spiritual thoughts with spiritual word and begin to create new matter with us with with that dimension of God's reality and and I think that this is going to be seen in in spaces that um you know I was in Brian we were talking about this how back in the like I think it was the mid-1990s these two scientists wanted to you know we're doing some experiments and I cannot I can never get a prayer I don't know if it was dark matter or dark energy but they stumbled into the discovery of I think it was dark energy yes one of those two and they stumbled into it and the they're looking for it and it was just sort of this major discovery discovery that unleashed a whole other paradigm and I feel that we're approaching into something really similar that we're going in there looking for something expecting you know being obedient with what we have but really what the Lord has is going to be sort of a stumbling discovery come on and and so it's exciting you know to to to see and and experience the excitement of the Lord but really knowing that there is a realm of the manifold wisdom of God which is really a spiritual force and we haven't known how to partner we we have a grid for demonic spiritual forces but we have no word for the heavenly kind you know we haven't really there isn't a whole lot of teaching us to it what is that is that the Holy Spirit is a horse where it's not a full purse no experienced person but this manifold was about operating through the church but not necessarily in the church right what you were talking about Daniel that's the space where I feel we're going to begin to see the greatest displacement of darkness and a whole new breed and a whole new age really begins to materialize that's my take on it mom oh good you know one of one of this is so good and man there's so many there's so many amazing points here that we can just run with his so good you know one of Solomon's names was coelus and I'm not a Hebraic master by any chance but they called him coelus and that meant that he was a he was a assisting it means together and we see that Solomon really gathered you know everyone you know everyone came to him you know he was really a gathering place you know he congregated he congregated things he he showed what was possible like you were talking about fever we're kind of talking about here and one of one of the ways that you know one of the ways it's gonna happen is like you're saying the manifold wisdom of God and and then what is the manifold wisdom of God and yeah how did how did Yahweh himself say how did he say he wanted to depict his himself to creation and it was us correct you know like it's you people watching you know it's he he said that I wanted to I want to present myself through my body and also he's not willing that any should perish that all should come to know him in the giftings and callings of God are irrevocable correct so it's like he won is he C chose us for his manifold wisdom and obviously like you know like you're mentioning there's so many there's so many realities within the kingdom you know we we talked about being seeded in Christ Emily places but how do we begin to observe that domain in which is just you know in which we are just one drop in the ocean of you know the kingdom so like you know what I mean so it's then we began to observe and participate with this myriad of realities within the kingdom now kind of backing up its we are the manifold wisdom of God and in a lot of ways here because we are the ambassadors and the representatives of the most how we are the co heirs of God and it's and as he is so are we in this world which is which should blow your mind every day right like it blows I'm talking the audience here I know it blows my our mind it blows my mind every day I'm completely like just whoa like I am I as he is so am I on this earth you know and I have been given the fullness of the Godhead bodily and Wow this is this is this is wild and there was a time when you know in a very immersive vision I saw a skyscraper and this scraper went went and was so tall and as I got closer and I many people who've heard me before I've heard this when I got closer I heard and that what I saw that they were simply Mantle's stacked upon one another passed into the heavens and I heard these are the mantles of those who have sacrificed their calling in pursuit of another and then I look I I just was drawn I've my body was moving my spirit body was moved and I saw what we kind of you know if you watch Star Wars something similar to the Clone Army and I heard the audible voice of God say find them help my body find its expression you know and that's exactly what we need and that's exactly what's going to open up in this era of the manifest sons it's the reality that we're so uniquely made and we each have a a unique individual expression and that individual expression the best place to foster that is within prophetic community or within mentorship or with with in connection with with people who can edit your life I love how you talk about that Brian you know people who can edit your life right that's the best place and and it's it that's this goes into the reality of what Paul was saying and this has been one of the things that really spearheaded a lot in terms of in my desire and our desire to want to see the body come up into the fullness of manifestation right and it's this it's many amongst you are sick and ill and dying because you've discerned the Lord's body incorrectly and we realize that that's a parallel to the reality that many in the body priced have discerned one another incorrectly so how can we begin to discern one another correctly how can we begin to celebrate the differences within these individuals who love Jesus with all their heart yet maybe it's different than we then we deem it appropriate or not appropriate Kimmy it's righteous we see we see fruit in their life okay we see righteousness but the ways that they're moving about it are different they're outside of our mind and that's exactly how it's supposed to be right you know I'm we're supposed to be outside of one another's minds so that our minds can come together and become the one new man and it's the one new man the body in which Christ is the head that's gonna really shift the age in the era completely it didn't see era of the manifest sons in the era of the manifest sons it's something it's not the era of the manifest son for a reason it's the era of the manifest sons because it takes all systems operational it takes the hand not stabbing the leg it takes you know it takes the mobility of the body because we all love one another yeah we may not have to like one another yeah I mean we should but you know what I mean we loved one another we see here exactly we see it's like man that's they love Jesus and there's there's fruit and therefore I need to come in a level of agreement so that we can become one body again because if we can't become one body again and the manifold wisdom of God cannot come forth in its members and this goes like you'd mentioned like Solomon being like you know Ilan must being kind of an example of the Solomon of our day and you know it's it's it's so it's so vital that we as a body began to honor the reality that there are people out there that have been positioning themselves in a place of reception for the the plans and purposes of God to land and maybe it hasn't been the body of Christ all the time but he's not willing that any should perish that all should come to know and the giftings and callings like I said are irrevocable so we're gonna see the manifestation of God's heart through people that may offend us okay and this is where we learn honor in another way is where we learn the fact that I can't be here today I can't even speak to you guys today and in this in this community unless Dano did what he did I'm only here because those who have prayed us into existence and we often persecute those who pray for us right yeah and the people who we think are wearing the new and we're just scratching the surface we often persecute those who have prayed us into existence as well so this is where the record needs to be straightened yeah we with a body needs to realize my gosh were one and if we can begin to realize we're one and love one another then we can transform and we can transfigure and we can undergo metamorphosis and we can take our position and really begin to build the era of the manifest sons yeah and so anyways that this is this is something that's been you know my heart for a long time awesome men you know one of my favorite Einstein quotes is that you can't solve a problem with the same mindset that created it right and you know that's so important to the solution airy discussion is that when Paul said if we're out of minds that's unto God not second Corinthians 5:13 and if we're so so minded unfortunately that was interpreted as sober but the word there is actually so for nail which is so-so and fraying your Sozo framework in other words we're gonna bring Sozo solutions to the earth we first have to get out of our current mindset one of the reasons for mystical experiences and one of the reasons for ecstatic encounters is to shift you out of your mindset a miracle has some logic to it because it's quantifiable you can say well I don't know what happened but he was blind and now he sees but a wonder is designed to blow your current way of thinking so that you have the opportunity to move into a Sozo reality in that thought and so a lot of people historically have embraced miracles but not wonders because they don't know the value of a wonder new or the mystery but when you try to when you try to explain rather than embrace a wonder then if its purpose which was to blow your current mindset so you might have access to sozo realities mom it's good I feel like my brain just popping as you're sharing that stuff just like I feel like this whole idea of building an H is we're at an event horizon you know the escape velocity surpasses the speed of light at event horizon it's like where there's this invitation to be sucked so far into the heart of the Father in the mind of Christ and then his kindness he begins to release us now the new mindset to begin to be a mature son a mature daughter in the earth begin to manifest that wisdom and I love a ruin how you're touching on I mean wisdom really means we're going low it's a low center of gravity if we're gonna function in wisdom so it's like that that honor piece looks I have to be able to honor a person or like Daniel you're talking about I'm a Daniel that's serving a leader that's not necessarily Kingdom but I had the opportunity to covertly bring Kingdom into this system and there's just such an incredible I think unprecedented opportunity in front of us the body of Christ and my prayer more than anything is that we wouldn't miss what's in front of us that we wouldn't judge the way it's looking to be and I think that's why there has to be a massive upgrade in our thinking and there's a great invitation in this present season of being and rest being in a reset that our mindsets can begin to be reset so that we can begin to enter into something that is what the Lord has always wanted so I'm excited you know something that comes to mind is that you know bringing this place I think that for maybe just myself I'm speaking for myself I don't know but I have found as a mystic that there has always been this confrontation in me and even in in other circles that I used to run in though there wasn't really it's kind of like well what is that good for but how can I haven't even apply that reality or that concept or that revelation to the now right and so there was always this sort of gap in my journey and and I think that that when we went that wisdom brings the translation into from the mystery to the manifestation that it gives you the blueprints are bring it into being and I feel that there are administration's for the mysteries of God in in in technologies in implementation in in solutions whether it's from economies to education and you know and those kinds of things and I think that part of our role is that invitation from the Lord like ask me for these things and not just the experience that asked for that for the administration of that mystery in your life or you know it might be something really small it might not be necessarily this huge thing but I think that find really fine-tuning and applying and bringing vacation to Revelation and I understand that there was a timings for all these things but I believe that the Lord is going to really revitalize the the the the role of a mystic in in in culture because there's going to be a place for them to bring in the manifestation of God that hasn't been on the earth before necessarily and and so with that you know I think that a lot of these mysteries that we're talking about whether it's you know a turn ality or whether it's you know timelessness or whatever you can find you know this is a digital generation and I believe that a lot of technology can come out of out of the application of those mysteries into into innovation and technology and art for sure but I feel that that innovation and technologies and I take a special place in this generation and if we're able to to lead forward with it and actually begin to frame even the context of you know what is the standard right you know that the Renaissance was first with the idea that that man is the measure of all things so now we have to really frame the thought of an agent our leaders as leaders you know really looking at a space where God is the measure of all things and out of that well it's art is our technology up to that standard you know the technology that we are creating up to that standard like what is the standard and the ethics that we're gonna have when God really begins to release the the the translation of the mysteries of heaven that many have already been carrying and many have already received but it's in that place where we're entering into that line where Daniel talks about that many will go back to and fro and knowledge will increase and I feel that part of that is even asking ourselves well if we're eventually going to be plugged into computers you know how can we bring an activation to the mind that actually is beyond is not isn't nothing that a computer could do so at that point we have gained a higher value and we are irreplaceable and whatever is going on here so we're prepared so education shifts into this preparation for the future rather than life management you know and so I think that you know I'm just speaking to the audience if your mystic like ask the Lord for for the application and the implementation of of the mysteries of heaven in the earth so that we can see the glory in a way that we haven't been able to see it before mmm come on okay hey to to close our time down real quick those of you that are watching you can share the video if you're going to replay party that would be awesome if you feel like there was some value in here and you want to share it with some of your friends that would be amazing but Dano do you have any type of event that's coming up well probably not an event with people there in person but is there anything that that's coming up you're excited about yeah we have an online school Saturday from 9:30 to 4:30 Pacific time that's San Francisco time and it is our finders class where we're using prophetic gifts Grace's words of knowledge remote-viewing to find lost people lost things and this is something we've been working in for several years but we've never made the training this widely available so we'll be doing that on this Saturday and they can go to prophetic company.com to find that info they can yes awesome definitely check that out guys what about you fee starting May 19th it's two parts one you can have option one which is six weeks or a nine week option so basically it's called a superluminal experience and I actually covered in the first one and the first batch that I did that's finishing up next week she can't sign up for an ER right now so that's a different thing but we talked about all these dis realms of eternity and things like that but and the second one I really wanted to bring some implementation and some practical application and so we're gonna be talking about things like how do we break out of old not mindsets but wineskins and really begin to create a new context for implementation because a lot of the context and one thing that you need especially if you're a unique there's the uniqueness in this generation and I think in a lot of people that they haven't found a space to really be able to express and so context has to be created so I'm going to teach people how to do that how to decode revelation and be able to apply it in ways that you hadn't been able to before and so that's a six-week course with you know some Q&A is in there sessions and then if you choose to do nine weeks segments it's going to have what I'm calling destiny labs and there will be really interactive sort of mentorship a mentorship approach where I really coach people and mentor people and how to navigate an experiment with destiny I think that God wants us to experiment and take leaps and risks right and so I give them a safe space to do that and try to talk to them through it and so they can sign up for that at Fiorella giordano online comm awesome and then Arun we had the privilege of doing some cool stuff together yeah absolutely yeah we got neuro neuro 2.0 coming which is exciting the 9-month mystical mentorship so Brian and I I mean we're gonna we're gonna be really helping people process these these mysteries in a community connected and with mentorship involved so it's looking really looking forward to that yeah yeah and the great thing is danos going to be chiming in at some point in the newer community as well as fee and so we're super excited that you guys and registration ends soon we'd love to have you if you just feel something whether Danno what he shared or fee or with new route there's just something you feel tugging on your heart I would just say just do it and so last thing if you guys would be willing just to if you want to make a declaration over those that are listening or prayer and in light of what we've been talking about that'd be amazing we could start with you Danna okay oh sorry ladies for beauty evidently there you go yeah well I declare over you that you have the mind of Christ that all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge are hidden in him for you and for such a time as this and out of the intimacy you already have through divine union through the glories of the cross that you are now accessing the treasures of wisdom and knowledge vie okay I just speak over each and every one of you that you are blessed with every spiritual blessing in heavenly places that you have access to a supernatural nature that you are a new creation and you walk according to a new creation mandate framed and formed to manifest the glory of God and to know the riches of the glory of Christ Jesus thing mm-hmm right on guys I want I want you to know people watching that most often the greatest complexities have been birthed out of a broken and contrite heart that just desires to know God and so a lot of things we're sharing in this reality this this these last hour and a half or so but just I want you to just put your hand just on your heart and I want you to just realize and begin to speak over yourself this God you love me with all of your heart with all of your strength and with all of your mind and it's from that place of you loving me first where I can truly love you with all of my heart and all of my strength and all of my mind and because the height depth length and width of your love causes me to transcend into your love that's side of time and space I can begin to receive and behold the mysteries and the secrets and that more deeper and more comprehensive fashion out of the simplicity of my desire to know you Shalom and as we started praying there was two doves circling outside my window so I declare peace over you that the peace of God would guard your mind and that that peace that surpasses understanding that the more we pursue his heart and his mind we would understand we just thank you God for understanding you established the heavens we ask for a more understanding it's clear there be a release of understanding there be release of wisdom that we could build what's on your heart father what's on your mind Jesus help us soon oh what's on your heart what's on your mind as we enter a new age that we can begin to construct all that you've dreamt of for this time in this season so I just bless every you that's what everyone that's watching you increase in favor with God favor with people I just declare that in wisdoms hands as long life and there's riches and I just declared the the economy of heaven would begin to flow over your life in Jesus name yeah amen thanks Dan Oh fee a wrap you guys was awesome great thanks for tuning in everybody love you guys too [Music]
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