Framing Ceilings Ep.85

[Music] [Applause] [Music] where we're at today is finishing the ceiling in the upstairs really it's it's sort of the victory lap on the framing of this house i think i've hauled today my last serious load of lumber to the site that's good there's about probably 900 square feet of ceiling to install at different heights there's about four different heights the thing that the ceiling has in common wherever it's happening is the only load that these joists are going to hold is the load of the drywall and whatever insulation is pushing down on the drywall nobody's going to be walking on this it's not heavy and so the design and the strength of a ceiling system like this is completely different than the strength of a floor system or a roof system so we're going to be working on ladders today in the shade small small pieces nothing's heavy the wind's not blowing it's not hot this is a nice day to be a carpenter [Music] this is what's known as a pressure block they create a really easy and inexpensive way to make a solid connection they've been around for years the pressure block is nailed securely in place to the ledger the joist is then nailed to the end of the pressure block and toe nailed to the ledger and then the next block locks it all in place now yes you could do this with joist hangers but this is quicker it's easier it gives the drywall guy a little extra distance to nail his ceiling up and since the load is light there is no downside about the only other thing to mention about what we're doing here today that maybe is different than what you've watched before is i'm gonna do all of this work with this guy now i've used this for about maybe two hours before today so by the end of today i'm gonna have a lot better basis for telling you what i think about a cordless warm drive scale saw [Music] so this probably goes without saying at this point in our series but with interior ceilings even more than with interior walls you've just got to make sure they are flat in other words do whatever you've got to do so that all the joists are in a plane because if one joist is sitting even just an eighth of an inch out of line with the others you're going to have either a hump or a dip in the ceiling so use a string use a level use a straight board do whatever you've got to do to make sure it's right the way i did this one is sort of using a process that i use a lot and that is hanging a straight board at the correct height for the joists to rest on while i nail him in place it's really the only way to go for something like this now yes it's a little more prep but it makes it easy for one man to do a two-man job the product is always perfect and so it pays off in the long run big time [Music] you may not remember that we talked about the fact that we held off on the interior partitions until after the roof was on well sometimes you have to do that because in a case like this it would have been really a time burner to try to get all these wall heights right and the ceilings in place before the stack went on but as it turns out it's a time burner to do it afterwards you've got to have every trick at your disposal you've got to be able to level and line and plane you've got to be able to use boards for props and toenails to hold things up temporarily it is perhaps the best example so far except for nailing off the roof of a situation where a nail gun saves hours and hours so when you when you walk into a situation like this you can just pretty much forget about production concentrate instead on making sure your sheetrock backing is where it needs to be all your lines are straight all your ceilings are level you have blocking and backing every place you're ever going to need it and try not to fall off of your ladder or you know if you're lucky enough to have it you're scaffold camera with any luck [Music] trust me with your life [Applause] [Music] [Music] in order to fasten our ceiling joists to the side of these rafters eye joists i had to add these osb spacers you've seen the same type of thing in multiple other places as we've built this house it is specified in the installation guide that is prepared by the manufacturer and you better pay attention to it using engineered lumber like this has pros and cons the perfect straightness and uniformity of the joists is clearly on the pro side of the ledger and the extra effort to fasten to it is certainly a con that being said it really is not a big deal it's strong it's straight it will all be covered by drywall and even if it looks a little funky to the untrained eye guess what nobody is ever going to see this all right so putting in these ceilings and i don't know if you can pick it up on the camera or not but it illustrates one of the big sort of options that opens up to you if you decide to cut and stack or traditionally frame the roof system on your house if you use trusses the height of the ceiling is dictated by the loads and the engineering that can be applied to the span and the truss and there are some real functional limits i mean you can put a scissor truss in and kind of vault the bottom a little bit you can make an attic truss which will get you a little bit of usable space in the attic but whereas in this house if we would have wanted to we could have dry walled right to the bottom of the rafters but the design choice was it was better to put a lower more conventional ceiling height in the smaller rooms and a higher loftier more expansive sort of feel in the spaces that were bigger so depending on how you want your your ceilings and your upstairs or the the floor closest to your roof system to look and feel and interact with climate control that's one of the considerations in whether to hand stack that is cut the rafters or order trusses and live with whatever ceiling has to be put in when the engineer specifies the design of the truss so the cost to build this house is just way different than it could be for someone else because i and nate are doing just almost all the labor i mean daniel helped us a lot last summer but in in essence i mean when you get right down to it i'm doing the work and we're paying for the material if you're interested in these costs we are sharing those right out of our quickbooks to our supporters and so you can go to the notes in the video and find out how to access that information if it would be useful too [Music] [Music] thank you [Music] so [Music] you know it's funny but i am not really positive what the next episode is going to be we're kind of at a fork in the road between whether we go with the exterior concrete or if the painter gets here and starts doing his magic on the outside but i'll tell you whoever gets here next and whatever video goes up next it feels great to be approaching the halfway point on this project and if you include all the site prep and the retaining walls and all of that work that went into this project we are past halfway right now and frankly it's a relief it's going to be great to be working with some of the other pros that i've been depending on for the past 24 years here in southern oregon and to have an a real opportunity to introduce you to them give you at least a peek at what they do and why it is that they've become go-to guys for me thank you for watching essential craftsman and keep up the good work

Channel: Essential Craftsman

Views: 186,590

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Keywords: anvil, forge, blacksmith, forging, craftsman, mentor, trades, tradesman, career, smith, carpetner, builder, wisdom, workbench, fabricate, tools, tool, tips, trick, hacks, protip, pressure block, ceiling framing, cordless worm drive skill saw, straightboard, blocking and backing, OSB Spacers

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Length: 12min 22sec (742 seconds)

Published: Sat Aug 29 2020