Former White House doctor says Biden won't finish out first term | Will Cain Podcast

congressman i'm so glad to have you with me today i want to have a conversation with you that honestly we haven't been able to have as a nation we haven't been able to talk about president biden's mental competency but you've been talking about it you've been talking about it openly you recently tweeted the following you said biden won't finish his term everyone knows he's unfit for the job his mind is too far gone this can't go on any longer he needs to resign you think he will not make it through the end of his first term well i don't well i mean look at that look at kind of the the way he's d you know he's he's gotten worse as time's gone on just since he's been president and he and i think that it's just going to continue to get worse unfortunately the natural course of this type of issue you know the cognitive issues that come along with aging is they get worse with time not better and you have fewer good days and more bad days as time goes on and i think we can already see that happening with him just in the year and a half that he's been president i mean it started in my mind when he was a candidate and that's when i first started making the call that this guy might not be uh you know cognitively fit to be our president i mean i think he had a window where he could have you know probably been you know he could have been president he was you know he had his abilities about him but that window's closed he's too old now and i just don't i don't see him making it the the the remainder of the time he's the oldest living president in american history you've served three presidents as the white house physician what is it that you see in joe biden that tells you he is unfit i hear you using the term cognitive decline but tell me specifically what do you see well i see the same thing that everybody else in the country sees and i've told people before you don't even have to be a physician to to really see this anymore i i think that i see him get him get him being very slow being frail uh i see him being forgetful uh confused he shuffles when he walks he's got an issue with his temper now he's very short-tempered now all these things are physical and mental manifestations of cognitive decline that's related to age and i think that a lot of people will know this a lot of people see this because a lot of people have had relatives that have had the same issues and they've seen this happen to family members and so when they see joe biden they're like i've seen that before you know in an aunt an uncle a mother a father something like that so uh i think that that's what's going on and i know the rigors of being you know this job physically and mentally what it takes to do the job as president you have to have a lot of endurance he doesn't have the endurance right now we can see that they they really slim his days down he doesn't start very early finishes uh pretty early you know they they roll him out for short periods of time they just this recent overseas trip he'd just been to another overseas trip and they said they had to split them up into two trips because they didn't think that uh you know he would be able to do them together it'd be too long for him and a lot of that was based on his age and they even openly admitted some of that so i just i think that his age is a really big factor right now and unfortunately you can get away with a lot of different you know professions and jobs and and not be at the top of your game but being president united states is not one of them i mean we need somebody who's at the absolute top of their game and he's that he just is not at the top of his game you know congressman um i'm i'm no physician you're the physician for this conversation but just as an armchair quarterback it does feel like that we have started to um pathologize or turn everything in in our country into a clinical diagnosis in other words there's no such thing as a jerk anymore now jerk has a personality disorder um so what we used to may have just described as senility someone's just getting old always turns into some type of clinical diagnosis is there one for joe biden are we looking at signs of dementia what is it beyond what we used to just term senility well you know i i've said before since i'm not his doctor and since i haven't physically haven't examined him and you know and done all those things that are required to actually make a diagnosis i i think i do want to stick to you know what a lot of what a lot of people have said all along you need to be able to examine a patient to make a diagnosis on it you shouldn't be trying to diagnose people from afar so i just group it into some type of age-related cognitive decline but it could be a variety of things it could be multi-infarct dementia it could be alzheimer's it could be parkinson's there's a lot of diseases out there that cause things like this and as far as the exact diagnosis i wouldn't you know make a make make a guess on that but there's something happening we need answers you know his physician owes it to the country his job is to is to keep the country informed about the health of the president as well and he's not doing that he did a physical exam on him a while back and it was very superficial the physical part of it in general but there was nothing no mention whatsoever of any cognitive testing or assessment of any sort and one of the reasons i always got so spun up about this is you remember whenever president trump was president that they were relentless and coming after me about him having a cognitive test they were saying he wasn't cognitive or physically fit to be president and you know i mean my opinion they were saying that because they didn't like the nature of his tweets they didn't like his style and they were looking for any reason to get rid of him obviously they'd been trying to do it for a while and this was just another attempt to get rid of him but they did make the case like hey you know we need to have our president needs to be cognitively tested you know we need to know that the president is capable of doing the job mentally and physically and so we submitted and we did we did a physical exam we did a cognitive test we did the moca which is the montreal clinical assessment where you just say it's a screening test screening for early cognitive decline we did that the president did extremely well on it past the flying colors uh and you know the press didn't and and they didn't you know anticipate that we were going to do that and it wasn't just the press it was all of these elites from academic medicine from stanford and yell and harvard and everybody demanding it and when we did it you know uh it really took all that off the table people just stopped talking about it it just went away but the precedent has been set now and i think now we have a a president who's actually showing signs and symptoms of cognitive decline and something like that would be extremely useful right now uh to to uh to the american people to uh you know if they don't think he has any issues then prove it to us you know uh give us have him take the test and share the results with us and let the country know that he's cognitively fit to be president you know you brought this up and i appreciate it because i was going to ask you is it can you and then should you diagnose someone from afar i think i've always heard that at least within psychiatry unless you have a exposure to the patient you shouldn't be making a an arm's length diagnosis so it's what you're telling me today i'm not making a diagnosis i'm just monitoring and seeing his decline like everyone else i'm not making a diagnosis and i'm not even speaking as a position to some extent i'm speaking as a concerned citizen i'm speaking to somebody uh you know who happens to be in congress and sees the the disastrous path that this this administration has taken and the things that they're doing to our country i'm speaking to someone who's concerned about my kids and my grandkids and i'm not the only one saying that it's not and i'm like you said i'm not making a diagnosis i'm saying something's not right this man's not making good decisions he's confused he's lost we need to know does he have a cognitive issue and we need his physician to step up to the plate and they need to do cognitive testing on him and they need to share the results with us and prove one way or another you know you have a new book out it's called holding the line and you talk about this in the book um although it hasn't yet been released and i haven't been able to read it i've seen the write-ups the book jacket cover the description of the book and one of the things that you choose to highlight in that that short uh summary of the book is that you were not one of maybe the first and the last person to see the president of the united states every day you saw three presidents i'm talking specifically here about president trump first one in the morning and last one at night you brought this up a moment ago with joe biden and the work demands of being president the day what is that day like i'm sure it's different for every president but i mean i saw i i saw barack obama go gray and i don't think it took eight years you know the demands on that job have to be enormous oh they are i mean you have to juggle so many balls you have to multitask so much i mean you have people coming at you from every direction all day long with domestic stuff with national security issues uh and and you just you it's very very uh taxing both physically and cognitively and you know you have to travel all over the world and you're you're you'll get up in one one morning you'll get on air force one you'll be in andrews air force base in dc and you know 16 hours later you're in southeast asia on the other side of the planet and it's nine o'clock in the morning again and you have to work a full 12-hour day uh i mean it takes a lot to do that job and i've seen three presidents do it i've seen three presidents do it successfully both from a cognitive and a physical standpoint all three of the presidents that i had a role in taking care of i was the junior physician during the george w bush presidency the last three years of his presidency i was there all eight years of the obama administration and i was there the first three years of the trump administration and they all had what it took both mentally and physically to get the job done now you know their politics were a lot different their schedules were different you know uh you know president bush was a super early riser he's early to rise in early to bed and president obama got up later but stayed up later and you know and president trump quite honestly just never slept i mean he just he was up all the time but uh but this is not joe biden i mean he he he's he if i were taking care of him i'm pretty sure that it would be it would just be a huge uh blatant difference in in in his you know his stamina compared to the three presidents i took care of congressman if he's not capable of pulling the level or the length of work day the three presidents you just described did then who's making the decisions who is doing or performing the act of being president of the united states well that we don't know the answer to that and that's a big part of the question he was the one that was elected to be our president and our commander-in-chief and our head of state but he's not doing it there are other people that are making these decisions i know there are uh just because you know we we see the stuff guys so i don't know if it's susan rice if it's wrong claim i mean you know who it is but uh there are other people that are making these decisions and he's being used as somewhat of a front man and they're funneling some of this stuff through i think they give him just enough information uh for him to get out in front of the camera for a brief period of time read the teleprompter and then and then whisk him away but i i doubt very seriously that he's being read into and briefed thoroughly on most of the issues that are out there i imagine he's just getting very superficial look at everything and that's dangerous because uh you know we don't want uh an unelected group of uh you know members of the west wing in the cabinet making these decisions for us we need the president united states the one that the country uh you know put into office uh making these decisions i'd love to ask you if i could about each of those three presidents you served i know you have doctor patient confidentiality and privilege so you can choose to to abstain from answering my questions but i'll still ask them how about that sounds good um from a distance starting with george w bush at least the image that for many of us out there the image that we we internalized was he's kind of a health nut always always riding bikes always running i believe out on the ranch in crawford um claire and brush it seemed like he was into exercise you said he was an early riser he he was he he got up really really early in the mornings i mean you know when when i was working in the uh in the residence of the white house and i had to be there when he got up i'd have to get in super early because you know he'd come down like six o'clock in the morning he's headed to the oval office uh dressed and ready to go and you know you had to kind of be there before that in case he needed something so he was an early riser he went to bed pretty early too i would say went to bed you know before 10 o'clock most nights uh but he like i said he was up pretty early but yeah he he was very very good athlete he was very physical he would go out and by the time i got to the white house he wasn't running anymore because he had issues with his knees and he started biking he started riding mountain bikes so i showed up at the white house and i was a pretty avid runner and i thought i was in pretty good shape and then i the first time i went out with him and i got on a mountain bike with him he just uh he just beat me down and and i was surprised it's a it's a completely different set of muscles riding a mountain back than it is running you know and i figured that out pretty quick but but he was a great athlete and he was the one thing i said about george w bush it was all or nothing with him he would get on a mountain bike uh or work out in some other fashion and it was just a hundred and ten percent for like an hour and fifteen hour and twenty minutes as hard and as fast as you could go we get off those bikes and he'd be covered in you know blood and sweat i mean you know literally blood and sweat you know from and uh he was uh he he he took it serious he worked out hard when he worked out so we're gonna exempt president trump from the answer to this question because i can't imagine that he is the answer although we're gonna get to president trump in just a moment who was the biggest health nut of the presence you served and i say that taking into account not just exercise but diet i would say probably president obama president obama was very you know good about what he ate and very picky about what he ate uh you know he was he was very healthy he let it he led a healthy lifestyle and so did mrs obama she she was into that stuff too so i think that helped out you know um and you know he he worked out a lot too but his workout was a little different you know he would work out every single day i mean i don't think i ever saw him miss a day of working out he worked out every single day uh and whereas president uh bush worked out maybe like four days a week you know he would like to have worked out every day but when you're riding a bike you know you got to go somewhere to do that so we'd have to go out to beltsville to the secret service training facility or somewhere else to ride so it was a little bit more difficult to do whereas president obama would mainly just do some light work out with the weights and get on the treadmill and things of that nature but he did work out every single day his workout was a little different he'd start out a little slower and maybe read the paper for a little bit while he's warming up on the treadmill and then break into a run and he didn't he didn't you know push himself like president uh bush did but he worked out more frequently so i think it was probably a balance you know there's different styles but he was probably a little more picky about what he ate but president obama i think this has been verified but he also smoked he did but only for the first year when he got there you know right after he got there it was pretty obvious that you know that he needed to stop smoking it wasn't a great image for the president united states and mrs obama wanted to quit too so there's a lot of pressure so uh the the doctor that was there at the time who was the appointed physician of the president uh before i became the appointed physician the president a few years later i was the i was the director of the white house medical unit and i was kind of his backup uh we got together and and we started him on a program to try to get him to quit smoking and he did pretty quickly i mean i i would say he probably smoked the first 14 months he was in the white house and it was pretty amazing because not only when he stuck everyone around him smoked too all of his aides his personal aid everybody that was close to him they also all smoked but once he started trying to stop smoking they pretty much had to try stop smoking as well because you know you don't want to be the guy standing around smoking a cigarette while the president united states trying to quit you know so everybody in the west wing pretty much stopped smoking it was pretty incredible but it only lasted about 14 months and then he quit people like how do you know that he quit and i'm like well because i had an ear piece in my ear every day and the secret service calls out every single movement he makes if he goes to the bathroom if he steps out of the oval office or whatever he can't smoke in the oval office he had to step out of the oval office to smoke and they'd call that out over the radio and i can almost tell you to the day that those calls just stopped you know did he did he quit cold turkey or was there nicorette yeah he chewed a lot of nicker at gum and i i'm not revealing anything that's not uh public knowledge there people know that he chewed nicker at gum but yeah he did shoot decorate gum uh you know for a while and gradually started working his way off that a little bit but he did that for a while well i know you got uh an email from president obama when you openly questioned president biden's mental competency during the 2020 election tell me a little bit about that email you got well it was kind of it was kind of interesting you know i i don't i never agree i don't look you know and he knows this looking back now i don't agree with anything president obama did during his administration i mean i think it did a lot of damage to the country i think that's where identity politics started everything that happened in the obama administration for eight solid years was about identity politics it was straight versus gay black versus white rich versus poor man versus woman everybody had to pick a side and you know everybody else was out to get them kind of thing and that kind of started during the obama administration i think it's on steroids now in the body administration so i'll just let for your listeners purposes let them know like i don't i don't agree with anything president obama did politically but uh you know on a personal level he was very nice to me he was very grateful for the care that i provided he was he was good to the secret service he was good to the military office uh to the people of the helicopter squadron in air force one and camp david and the valets at the white house and all of that and so was mrs obama they were great family to work for i was blessed to work for three wonderful families at the white house because all three of them were wonderful families but i say that to set the scene because uh you know i i did have a close personal relationship with him i took care of him for eight years you can't help but and then i was uh i was campaigning i was now out of the military i'd retired from the navy i'd left the white house i was running for office in the 13th congressional district of texas which is by the way the number one most conservative district in the entire united states out of all uh you know members of congress so it's you know it's pretty far to the right and uh i was driving from america to wichita falls and i was almost at this event i was going gonna do and i saw this uh tweet come up from ronald mcdaniel and she was uh basically calling the president out because there was a video of him where you might remember me i think it was back in february of 20 or something but he had kind of forgot where he was at he forgot what state he was in and he had uh he'd made a mention that he was campaigning for senate so uh you know and she tweeted something out and i just was a little frustrated at the double standard i was like you know i can't believe this man for for for forever they were just coming after me to the press and like i said these these elites in academic medicine just coming after me every single day about this and now we have somebody who's actually got an issue and it's crickets you don't hear anything from them nothing they're just ignoring it right so out of frustration i just retweeted that and it was a pretty benign tweet i think i tweeted something like does anybody remember the cognitive attest that i gave at real donald trump the one that he aced looks like somebody else needs a test scary that's all i said it wasn't that bad i didn't think but within 20 minutes i mean i get my phones like ding i get this email from president obama you know directly from president obama just tearing me up basically you know starting out saying hey you know i always tried to stay out of uh you know i tried not to comment on your uh your your service to president trump you know and i considered you a friend and you know you you know considered you a great doctor you took good care of our family and then he just kind of just started you know tearing me up saying you know this was beneath you as a navy rear admiral it was beneath you in your position as a position of the president it was a direct attack on me and and and my staff and the people that worked with you at the white house and considered you a friend and you know it's just poor judgment to come after joe like that to attack joe i take a cheap shot at joe like this and i hope you use better judgment in the future and you know i just i mean i you know i get i get hate mail all the time and that this i didn't wouldn't actually in the category of hate mail but it was a scolding but i get stuff like that on the on the spectrum of that all day long every day and always have it doesn't bother me but this one kind of like bothered me a little bit i didn't know exactly i had kind of mixed emotions about it was kind of a uh kind of a split between being pissed off about it but also having my feelings hurt a little bit to be honest with you right and so uh i kind of got flustered and i was about to go into this fundraiser i was already late for it i was going to type an email or have a responsibility i thought you know what i'm not going to do that i'm going to do this fundraiser i'm going to come back i'm going to call him i'm just going to pick the phone up and call him and talk to him and so that was my plan and i went in the fundraiser and i really my head wasn't in the game i wasn't paying attention what's going on because i was just consumed with this uh this email i got and then by the time i walked out i had a little time to think about it and i thought you know what before i do anything i'm gonna run this past somebody and the first person that popped into my mind was dan bongino right because dan and i are friends dan was a secret service agent during the obama administration dan and i traveled all over the world together he was in a very similar situation uh at times uh you know that i that i was in now having worked for you know having been very conservative working for president obama previous to that so i called dana and dan was like look ronnie he goes you don't owe this guy a damn thing he said you know did he did he do anything to help you out when they were destroying you and your family during the va nomination process one phone call from him he could have picked the phone up and made one phone call the tester or anybody on the veterans affairs committee or you know anybody else for that nature one phone call from him and it would have all stopped but he you know he he let them tear you up and he didn't lift a single finger to help you he goes ronnie you don't owe this guy anything and so you know i thought about it i thought you know what dan's right i i don't feel like i really owe him anything at this point i just didn't even reply to it i didn't reply to that to the email i just let it go um what a story yeah what a scolding and i can imagine i mean i understand both sides of it i understand the anger and that it would hurt your feelings um having word from by the way out of curiosity did president obama know when you worked for him that you disagreed with him did he know your politics differs yeah i think so you know he knew where i was from he knew i was from loveland texas my dad had been mayor briefly uh ran for mayor when he's when he was pretty old and whenever he was running for mayor president obama was always trying to give me a hard time about it he's like well you know one time he told me he said well i'd go he goes i'd go down there to level in and campaign for your dad ronnie if i thought he'd do any good but i'm pretty sure it'll do more harm than good and i said yes sir i said you probably need to stay out of that part of texas yeah and i mean yeah he knew he knew that that came from a very conservative part of the country and he he knew that my leanings were probably far to the right but you know i and and i will maintain to this day i never ever had a political opinion when i worked for him i just i did my job i was on active duty i was no different than uh you know then the secret service agents were taking care of him the pilot that was flying air force one or you know the president helicopter squadron or people that worked at camp david or anything else i was there to take care of the president united states position and to take care of the office of the president and i was there as a as a navy active duty member i was on active duty in the navy a navy admiral at the time and i kept my head down and i kept my political opinions to myself because that was not my job and and i took great care of the president the first family but when i got out and i ran for office of course you know none of that applies anymore now i'm out i'm a civilian i'm not on active duty anymore and i'm running for office in the number one most conservative district in the country of course i'm going to have a political opinion right so i think a lot of people in the obama administration got really uh upset with me when i ran for office and some of the stuff i was putting out just pure political stuff that i was putting out and uh they they felt like i had betrayed them i was like well i didn't betray anybody i mean you know this is who i am i mean i kept my opinions to myself when you know when i was on active duty but now i'm not i mean they should understand that better than anybody having come from the white house and being in politics but some people took it really personal i think that's part and parcel with the ideology quite honestly that many on the left can't separate their politics from their personality nor their job well many others understand politics is only one slice of your life and there's a job to do outside of politics now we get to the mystery the biggest curiosity i said we come back to president trump you have to help me understand president trump um not one of the youngest presidents we've ever had admittedly i think he would admit this as well not the diet you would assume of champions uh enjoys fast food and yet has a bottomless well of energy back-to-back rallies look by the way i talk on tv for a living i used to host a solo radio show for espn i know there are people that do very hard jobs in this world it is exhausting if you talk for three hours you will be tired at the end of that three hours president trump spoke extemporaneously live to huge audiences back to back and then was up tweeting the next morning before the sun is up where in the world is he getting that energy well i'll tell you the one comment you made there is is talking to people and doing it continuously because he actually feeds on that you know when he gets up in front of a crowd the more excited they are and the more they're into what he's saying the more just the more energy he has i mean that's just who he is he just he thrives on that but i'll tell you know everybody's different i mean we all know people who don't sleep very much i mean you know i i'd like to get you know six eight hours a night if i could but you know i don't most the time but you know i need at least five hours to on a long term basis he does not he just he's not made that way i mean you can go back and talk to people at noon when he was really young he didn't sleep he's never slept his whole life he's only slept like four to five hours a night that's just what he does and uh maybe that's one of the reasons he's successful as he is and he's had as much uh you know uh he's acquired the wealth that he had and everything maybe it was because he had those extra hours he was up working that some others weren't i don't know the answer to that but what i will tell you is that uh the man can go non-stop and and you're right his dot's not great i gave up on that a long time ago uh and uh you know the exercise not gonna happen he made that pretty clear to me early on right and uh but i will tell you know that he never drank his entire life and he never smoked his entire life right so he's lived a very healthy life in a lot of ways i mean yeah he hasn't had the healthiest diet in the world but like you said president obama had probably a much healthier doctor than trump but he smoked i mean you know i mean and there's different you you pick different things that you know that that may or may not be good for your health and uh he just he chose not to smoke and drink and i think it has had an incredible impact on his long-term health i will tell you when i did this physical exam they did not ask me to break down i had the numbers right in front of me and i figured because sanjay gupta was in the room when i was briefing it that day in the in the white house briefing room i figured i would ask and i had all of the results from his exercise stress test his cardiac exercise stress test for his age and his age group he crushed it he was in the top 10 percent of men his age on the treadmill from a cardiac standpoint i was like astonished and i had the numbers there but nobody asked me i told him that he did well but nobody asked me to break the numbers down but i did have them there at the time because i was i was so uh impressed with them but he uh he's just got a lot of energy you know we're going overseas trips and we'd be in the elevator and like i said i mentioned this before you fly all the way to the other side of the planet you're super tired you get off the plane you got to work a full day uh you know and he's he's he's out talking to people doing meetings giving speeches you know meeting with foreign leaders just nonstop embassy staff over you know all this different stuff and then we get back to the hotel and it would be like 10 30 at night everybody's dragging barely keep their eyes open i mean and somebody would say hey there's a group of folks down in the lobby that have been waiting down to see or whatever he's like let's go down and see him and say hi to him before we go to bed everybody be like are you kidding me you know i mean everybody i mean nobody can hardly take another step and he just he he wanted to keep going so i don't know what it is about him but he's unique in that regards well look as somebody who like i i i preach better than i practice but i'm into health optimization i want to be healthy i want to exercise i want to do my best to eat right there's one of three takeaways here number one it's a testament president trump is a testament to not smoking and drinking as you just said number two possibly all the talk of diet exercise and sleep is highly overrated that we have been sold a bill of goods which i don't think is true or number three we're looking at one of the biggest exceptions to the rule that there is president trump i i agree i don't know what the answer to that is but you're right there's something going on there but i uh you know he uh as far as the exercise goes i i he never really said this to me but i kind of get the impression you know this is me not him but i kind of feel like he thinks that god gave him so many heartbeats and he didn't want to waste any of him on the treadmill you know uh but uh he uh you know and he's you know he he makes a point you know i mean he's he's older now right i mean he's he's not trying to you know work on his six-pack or something you know i mean he's you know you know your priorities are different when you're at different points in your life and you know for him right now he's at a point in his life he's old enough he's like i'm not going to get on the treadmill and you know and and you know punish my uh my body at this point you know i don't think i need to do it i have done it at this point i'm not going to do it and he also just is like hey i've always eaten kind of what i wanted i'm going to keep doing it so can't argue with it well let's take this thing full circle then uh back to president biden so you know we'll do our best here to the most interesting thing about you congressman is that you serve three presidents in a non-partisan role you are admittedly in a partisan role now you are a republican congressman from texas so i will ask you just to do your best to to to look at this through a non-partisan lens just simply from a health lens you've already said you don't think he can finish his his first term so i can't imagine you see a scenario where he runs for re-election he will not run for reelection i think for a variety of reasons not the least of which is that the left's starting to turn on him now so i think that that's that's just a game changer for him and i honestly i think that they realize that that he he can't physically or you know cognitively handle another four years though i think they're also thinking we'll be lucky if he makes it to the end of this term so they're looking for opportunity to get rid of him so right now they're talking about the the poor polling on tv and you know and i think more of the hunter biden stuff's coming out and and i don't think that that's i think that's probably by design from some folks on the left to uh to try to you know i think they're going to create problems for him where they may be able to get him out before the four years is up even if it's not for cognitive issues i just think that the left has now realized that they made a mistake and they've got a real problem here with the president who's not performing uh who is not well thought of nationwide his polling is horrible uh who can't make the left happy you can't make the right happy you can't seem to make anybody happy uh and and honestly doesn't know where he's at a lot of the time it doesn't look like so we'll see what happens but i think so graham so congressman on the uh on the con cognitive decline um note you know there's times i guess this passes the common sense test and our experience with with with elderly relatives or whoever may be it's not consistent right because there's times when joe biden seems to pull it off and he gives a speech with very few stumbles and answers a question extemporaneously there are other times when he can't literally remember where he is is that just how it goes comes in waves good days bad days it comes in good days and bad days and like i said as the time goes on more bad days and good days and there's good times of the day and bad times of the day you know the sundowners thing and uh you know uh there's there's just uh we you know in in medicine we know that there's certain times of the day where people are going to be sharper than having these issues than they are other times they get confused in the evenings called the sun down or whatever but so i mean i think that's part of it and the other question i have will is like are they giving him any medications i mean there are medications you can take too that cover a lot of this up for a while until it gets bad enough that the meds don't work so much anymore but i wonder are they giving him any medications uh so let's end with this you said it a minute ago i think you hinted at this and i don't know if you were hinting directly what i'm about to ask you but you said there are various ways in which he might not see the end of his first term do you think cognitive decline and maybe that's almost inseparable from political impotency in other words does his own party find him ineffective do you think that ineffectiveness tied to cognitive decline could lead to a 25th amendment situation before this tournament could but i don't think it's likely i don't think they want to go down that path i think that first off i don't think the democrats want to admit that that you know that i and others that were saying this early on were right that he was not cognitively fit to be our president i don't think they want to go down that path and admit that also that's a hard path to go down i mean there's two ways you can do the 25th amendment he can voluntarily resign so you know he has a health issue or you know he's not fit to be president anymore for one reason or another whether it's mental or physical and he can walk away from it or you know his cabinet can get together with the vice president and they can decide they can vote and decide that he's not and then bring that to congress and so on and so forth that's kind of a messy process i think that what i think is more likely is that they will let him fall on his own sword to some extent and i think they have a perfect opportunity to do that with all the stuff that's out there on hunter biden i mean hunter biden is an absolute disaster and i'm sure there are a thousand things in hunter's background that would that would uh disqualify president biden from being president you know and and i think that they will quietly just look the other way and let some of this hunter biden stuff start blowing up and i think that's one way that they they might be able to uh to force him out but i'm i once again i'm guessing but i think that they're gonna have to figure something out because i think just trying to run the clock out until 2024 is not going to be an option congressman ronnie jackson what a fascinating conversation thank you so much for thank you well i appreciate it hey it's will kane click here to subscribe to the fox news channel on youtube it's the best way to get our latest interviews and highlights and click to subscribe to the will kane podcast for full episodes right now

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Length: 32min 43sec (1963 seconds)

Published: Mon Jul 18 2022