Former regular pioneer shares her story. Meet Janene #exjw #exjehovahwitness

[Music] hello Janine and welcome to my YouTube channel hi hi Janine and I connected through an email and she was interested in sharing her story so I'll just get into it I haven't had an interview in quite some time and I was just telling Janine I feel kind of rusty at this it's been over a month so Janine um how did the Jehovah's Witnesses come into your life so um on both sides of my family both of my parents um became Witnesses at a very young age um my mom's family lives here in Rochester New York um and he was witnessed to in a parking lot in the middle of a blizzard and he said wow this message must be really important if this man is sharing this with me on this you know horrible day um and my mom had always been a spiritual person even from a very young age um and I think you know Rel religion definitely spoke to her and um as a person um and my dad's family um kind of similar story they became Witnesses when when um he was young um so kind of third generation on both sides um when it comes to like my cousins and my aunts and uncles most of them are witnesses but there's a good number that aren't and haven't been or never were Witnesses and kind of you know it was interesting having you know navigating relationships with family that were in and out of the religion and one of the things I feel like Witnesses kind of have a hard time with is maintaining those family bonds when there is no religion you know in common so um I I think you know looking back on you know my childhood I I wished we could have been a little bit closer and had closer ties to family um that weren't Witnesses because now that I'm gone I've kind of reconnected um with that family um growing up I I have two sisters um I'm in the middle which you know in all honesty I think a lot of times you know we talk about the Forgotten middle child but for me it really worked out well for me in my life um I felt like I was able to kind of do my own thing and kind of run under the radar um I also left home first um I tend to be the more independent adventurous one of the three of us we all have vastly different personalities um so you know there when I was in when I became a teenager um my sister was going through a rough time and ended up getting dis fellow shipped and um I remember at one point my parents were you know said to me oh you know we're so happy that you're the one we don't have to worry about which it sounds nice but then it also means that you always have to be okay you can't you don't have the space to fall apart heart you don't have the space to really um you know go through things you just have to put on this mask of I'm the okay one I'm the okay one and that has been basically the trend throughout you know my life when it comes through my relationship with my parents and you know where I kind of fall in you know with my sisters I'm the okay one um and so you know as I got older and I moved out of the house I moved in with my mom's parents um once I graduated high school that was an interesting experience um um my mom's mother my grandmother um was not a very kind person um which if anybody knowing her is watching this that might be a surprise to you um but the way she treated her family and the way she treated non-am was drastically different and by looking at her you would never know and so I think that also made a really big impact on how I viewed Witnesses and how um Witnesses treat people um where you kind of have this facade and as long as the facade stays up you're okay you're revered um she is she was um both of my grandparents on my mom's side were very beloved um they um the congregation here in Rochester started in their basement so they were you know considered witness royalty um so that was always interesting because it was like there was the woman that I knew that treated us so badly and treated my mom so badly and then there's you know other people that you know worship the ground she would walk on um and so that was a very interesting experience um so I pioneered right out of high school I didn't really have a choice there was can know really wasn't any other options that you know I felt that I had obviously like looking back yeah I could have done whatever I wanted to do but you know that's the how Cults work you feel like you don't have a choice um and I did enjoy pioneering I um you know had a lot of friends that were also Pioneers so you kind of have that like everybody kind of pushes everybody in you know you know One Direction um you know of course in my you know late teens early 20s there were a lot of my friends that got just fellowshipped and left but at that time a lot of them were leaving because they got in trouble or you know it was traumatic it wasn't that they left on their own and they you know a lot of them did kind of Crash and Burn um so you know looking back I didn't leave until 2020 but you know looking back I kind of realized it kind of almost was a protection that I didn't leave right then because I feel like I wasn't prepared to make good life decisions um so you know I have like mixed feelings about you know how long I stayed in um you know it's some days oh I wish I would have you know left you know when I was a teenager and then there are other times I'm like oh my God thank God I didn't I didn't leave you know then um after pioneer ing for a couple years I decided to join foreign language um I joined the Russian and I think it was 2006 I think um and it was a lot of it was the best of times it was the worst of times um it was a lot of fun to learn the culture I really loved the language um I got to meet a lot of really nice people um however the hall I was in was extremely dysfunctional in every sense of the word um I was physically assaulted in the Kingdom Hall um by a fellow sister um and it was just the two of us and so there was there was no recourse um I also was I got cornered by uh two Bible students in the uh coat room and they started saying extremely explicit sexual things to me um and they actually were physically holding me back and there was Elder and a actually two Elders um that were standing I was like facing out and they were like blocking they were facing me and so I looked out and I saw them and all I said was can you help me please please help help because they were physically stopping me from leaving while they were saying all these vile things to me and the two brothers just stood there and laughed um they thought it was hilarious and even after I was able to like I kind of basically like punched just like kept punching until I could get out that was like the only way I could escape and they also thought that was funny um and so it that is just kind of a taste of what I experienced in Russian um there was a lot of competition I think foreign language sometimes can breed a lot of competition um between like learning the language who knows the language best who is at the best Bible student students um who's doing the most who's you know going to you know such and such country who's doing this who's doing that and I by Nature I'm just not a competitive person um so I didn't really fit in um to that I I I'm I'm if you want to win congratulations good for you that's just my mindset and I just didn't Jive um with the competitive nature um in the hall and um I one of the refuges at that point was work I really enjoyed work um and around this time too is when I started really waking up because up until this time there were bad things that had happened um that I'd seen um and like different things that um I knew others that experience but it still wasn't quite enough to like jolt me awake um so like a lot of other people when they changed the generation teaching to the this generation will never ever end it just keeps going on and on and on um that was the first time I was like like that doesn't make sense and I'm always a very logical person and it just was like okay we talk about all different you know the silent generation the boomer generation Gen X Millennials gen Z how are those all considered one generation that just makes zero sense and so slowly but surely and then as I saw you know organizational things um especially in the Russian Hall and how that was handled and you know dealing with this circuit overse years and you know things like that you know I I tried to get help um but I was a single sister and I wasn't you know I wasn't married I wasn't part of at this point um people knew who my grandparents were but that wasn't really a protection for me at the point so like I nobody really listened to me and you know what my concerns and the struggles that I was having um so again I just learned to be okay um and kind of keep it to myself um and then in 2007 I decided to join French because I really couldn't handle anymore that was probably the closest I had um gotten to leaving um um the witnesses because being in Russian was it was just traumatic in fact a lot there are a lot of things that I have forgotten about that like I'll be talking like oh yeah I forgot about that happened so there's like big blocks of my memory that are they're just gone um and I think you know honestly it's you know my mind trying to protect itself um so iend up joining French which was honestly very healing um I I was still pioneering at the time but I I I can laugh now um but when I was leaving Russian um I had kind of like I'm like I don't want a Pioneer anymore and they um convinced me to stay as a Pioneer they're like well we'll send you to French as a Pioneer and then once you go there you then you can decide and so I said okay that makes sense so I I had joined a French and it was the day of the Pioneer meeting with the elders and so I show up and one of the elders is like why are you here and I'm like what do you mean why am I here I'm here for the Pioneer meeting he's like you're not a Pioneer I'm like what do you mean um turns out uh Russian had deleted me as a Pioneer but didn't tell me and so of course I'm standing there and I start crying um and he was very kind the Elder was he was very very kind but he was very firm that I could not stay um because I was not a Pioneer um and so I left and it was like at that point I was like I could leave and never come back um but I knew if I did that I would lose contact with uh my mom and my sisters at this point my dad had had um stopped becoming a witness he was just Fellowship when I was in my early 20s um he's kind of a whole another story um um so he hasn't hasn't been in my life for a really long time um so I but I I did end up staying um French was a it was I it I had a lot of good I have a lot of good memories there um there was still you know some of that competition you know kind of like that kind of drama but it was a lot less than there was in Russian so that was very helpful um throughout this time I had become closer to some of my workmates and kind of gained friends outside of witnesses um because growing up we in the town we grew up in and the school we went to we were one of the only black families for a really long time and we were also Witnesses so I've been standing out and being the weird one my entire life and so I got to a point where I'm like I just I just want to be normal I just want to be known as normal I don't want to be you know some crazy cult kid I don't want to be you know I just I just want to fit in um and so at work I you know kind of kept my whole witness life quiet so I you know definitely live live this a stereotypical double life I had my witness life and then I had this other life that I was creating for myself because I felt like I needed an outlet especially with you know when I was in Russian I needed I need I needed something outside of that because that you know when you're in foreign language that's basically your whole life and they're small groups um so you you you don't have the variety that you do in English Halls um so I um became friends and then I you know basically acted like I wasn't a witness um I celebrated started celebrating holidays I had my first birthday party they had no idea it was my first birthday party um it felt wonderful um you know to be celebrated because again you know middle kid you you know pretty much you know you you fly under the radar what middle kid um so it was nice you know feel special and you know to kind of get to have people that wanted to be in my life and liked me for me and not because some religion told them they had to that you know friendship out of obligation whether you really connect with somebody or not um you know I gained some really good friends that I'm still friends with to this day that really have you know they've Saved My Life um and a lot of them had no idea I was a witness um some of them don't even know that that was the cult I was in I kind of just kept it ambiguous like when I woke up in 20120 and kind of or when I left in 2020 um and kind of had this you know entire thing happened to me I was like okay maybe I need to share you know a little bit so basically I would just say oh I you know was an Ault but I you know never really disclosed the name or you know everything that you know entailed in that because again I just wanted to be normal um so I you know kind of slowly but surely um you know was closer to you know what I consider my real friends that really liked me um and then at the time my younger sister had gotten married to um a brother in Tanzania and she was living there and my mom was living there too and so as much as I really wanted to leave Witnesses I still was worried about them being overseas and being cut off from them um and then of course when Co happened my mom happened to be in India and um she had some trouble getting back she kind of got stuck there and again I was kind of like I don't want to leave until I know she's safe um because there was a lot of question of whether she would be able to come back and her safety was also in question so but once everybody was back stateside um I basically sent a text I I sorry but I don't want to be a witness anymore and I love you all but you know basically saying goodbye um I did end up disassociating um mainly for one reason and one reason only I did not want anyone to contact me um I know like some people say oh that's playing by their rules or you know you can fade and still keep the contact but I knew I did not want someone trying to convince me um of making you know basically saying like I don't have the wherewithal to make decisions for my life and I'm like I at the time I was 36 year 35 35 years old if I can send a least you know buy a house buy a car you know decide what I'm going to do for work I can decide what I want to believe and did not want anyone trying to convince me otherwise um so I had sent an email to uh two elders and said basically said I don't want to be a witness anymore I don't want to be known as a witness anymore and I thought that that was going to be sufficient because I actually looked at the elders manual and it's like basically they need they need you know written proof um and they had asked if I wanted to meet with them and I really didn't want to but they kind of made it sound like I had to like you know make it official um looking back I didn't need to meet with them um and honestly if anything uh that meeting made it crystal crystal clear that I had made the right decision because in that meeting they basically said well what about your nephew my older sister has a son well what about your nephew you're going to you know lose contact with him why why don't you stay for your family and I was like but that's wrong staying for somebody else is wrong I'm telling you I don't believe this anymore why are you trying to convince me to stay for somebody else I'm like that's that's just wrong um and you know they you know kept begging and pleading they're like when was the last time you studied when was the last time you prayed and honestly at that point it had been a really really long time because I hadn't believed in you know probably eight years once I lost all of my faith um in you know witness Doctrine um and I think looking back I am kind of glad I had such a long waking up period because by by the time I left I had the strength and fortitude to really put my foot down um and say no this this I'm leaving I don't believe this anymore um and I also had a support structure um of course with Co everything was like locked down um and it was you know officially Le losing my family was traumatic um and it was kind of um there was a lot of mental turmoil at that time you know on top of covid um but a lot of those days and months and weeks um were I started doing yoga pretty much every day a couple times a day lots and lots of meditation um I work for I work in a hospit in the hospital system so you know work was extremely busy um but I was also furloughed for um a little over a month um so I took that month and basically just it was basically month-long meditation of what do I believe who Am am I you know those basic fundamental questions that as Witnesses you never ask yourself they're told to you they're dictated to you what do you believe you you read it in a book what do you think about the future you read it in a book you see pictures who are you as a person they tell you who you are as a person what do you like what are your interests they tell you these things you don't have you don't get to decide that for yourself and so it was almost like I felt like I you know I was like you know a ground zero and got to decide who am I what do I actually believe and a lot of it was I don't know yet and being okay with not knowing because my entire life I had concrete belief in God I had concrete belief in the future I had concrete belief that I potentially could never die um and so I speaking of death I went through a period where I was obsessed with death and dying um and because for so long I they tell you you're not going to die die you're you're the chances are you're going to make it through the Great Tribulation so you know coming to grips with my own mortality was also kind of a shock and even though I had woken up there is a difference of when you wake up and you're still kind of tied to the Mothership a little bit but once you really break that you really you know break that Bond you you really do kind of change as a person um I I think there's a lot of change that you can do while you're still um physically and mentally out but there is there is a difference being physically out and mentally out um um as a whole um so it was it was it was a it was an interesting time um I don't ever want to go through that again um but I can look back on it now with really with with fondness because in that time I really if any of my friends are watching this you know you Saved My Life um and so I really got to know like who my friends are and who really has my back because for so long it was like oh well you know Witnesses are your best friends you know they're and it's like no they weren't you know if I had this Monumental change they were gone you know and here were these you know other people that really didn't know what I was going through but they loved me as a person enough to like stick by me um sorry um so like still like that's the part that you know really makes me emotional because for the first time it was like I felt like um I really understood what friendship was because I think as Witnesses like they tell you oh you know these are your best friends these are you know you know the the only people that will really love you and that's simply not true you know it's such a conditional love it's such a conditional friendship it's conditional family bonds you know it's like if you can break a family bond over you know simply the deciding you know your belief structure which doesn't change you fundamentally as a person then you know what is that you know so um I feel very very extremely lucky that I was able to make friends before I left because they really really rallied around me um because at that time I started sharing more and more about you know my family and you know my past because I felt safe to um I I think you know as a witness you realize a lot of if you have doubts you have no Outlet it's not safe to share um because you know if you start sharing doubts that you're going to be hauled in you know to the back room and um you know I you know have a lot of deep pH philosophical conversations with people and we remain friends we have vastly different you know beliefs um in God in scripture and what happens when we die what's the afterlife was there anything before this we you know have vastly different a lot of differences but we can still be friends and respect each other and you know it just I'm this I'm just so thankful um for my life now and you know looking back you know I like I said before sometimes I wish I would have left sooner um I turned 40 this year so you know it's like like oh I'm really you know middle middleaged but you know if I would have left before I wouldn't have the support structure that I have now um so you know I I'm I'm right where I'm I'm right where I'm supposed to be so thank you so much for sharing all of that happy birthday is you said you just turned 40 this month I turned 40 in March in March well happy early yeah thanks I have a couple questions how did you get into Russian out of all the languages out there I mean Russian is I mean I know that there's plenty of Russian speaking congregations in the US but Russian before French and did you learn Russian in high school like and then French right after like are you just really easy at picking up languages because I should I'm not and I know that some people have just a knack at picking up languages so was that something that you already had acquired in school or what happened so so my mom um she dictated a lot of what we wanted to do with our lives um and and what our aspirations should be um and one of her fond memories was being in Spanish so when we were kids her thing was always you're going to Pioneer and you're going to do foreign language um and so I had taken four years of French in high school and I absolutely love the French language um and here in Rochester there really wasn't um at that time when foreign languages were really you know becoming the thing um there French wasn't one of them um but I still kind of St I studied in French I still listened to French music I Still you know tried to keep up my language skills um and at the time my roommate uh was Romanian and had started kind of working with the and the Russian group was in the English Hall um that I was in and because I was pioneering at the time and they were most of the Pioneers I ended up with them a lot so of course you know if I'm in service I want to be able to say something so you know I learned the alphabet when they had the Russian class they would study at our house I would cook dinner for everybody and I would hold the flash cards so I kind of you know learned and then it was like well I really I really like this um I really you know like Eastern European people um they are beautiful people and here in not just there a lot of there's not a whole lot of uh Russians um but there's a lot of ukrainians um and so I you know got to learn you know about the cultures and you know we would go um downstate for our assemblies and conventions and that was always a really fun time um and so it was kind of I still wanted to do French um French was always in the back of my mind um and then of course like halfway through you know while I was in Russian they were like oh we're gon to start a French group you know but at that time I had really invested a lot of time and effort because Russian is not an easy language um it is the grammar is ridiculous um I love it I still love the language I I um I say a lot of times English is not sufficient there's not enough words whereas Russian there are too many words it's just a very specific language so that really spoke to me um um but once the um French uh became was going to be it looked it was you know defit they were going to become a congregation and then with all of the issues that were happening in Russian I was like okay this is it's time to leave so um that's you know so I kind of went back to French it and how long were you regular prer for oh yeah so I started ran out of high school and then I took a break for um a year and a half while I was went to nursing school um so roughly 10 years I think pish 12 years I think somewhere in there yeah my again my timeline is a little fuzzy because I kind of have these like blocks that are kind of gone so I kind of have to like sit or like look at pictures really to remember a lot of things okay it's a long time uh those are the two questions I had and then oh the last question is what is the relationship like now that you've disassociated yourself with your mom and your two sisters um so so I my my mom and my sisters you know were very when I left they were very in and I knew that they were going to follow the rules I know like sometimes you know there are people that sorry there's okay blasting music outside um sometime you know sometimes families will bend the rules a little bit but I knew my family was very much rule followers um so you know basically there hasn't been any contact UM only for um when my grandmother was uh when my grandmother was dying um they let me know that you know she was was wasn't doing well and um I did go to the funeral um it was it that was an interesting experience um yeah that was interesting so that was kind of the first time that they had seen me and I specifically like you know wasn't on camera but I made sure that my picture was up and so one of the things I like is I so I have two nose rings so um and one thing about being in foreign language is when you leave sometimes it takes a while for word to get back to English and so especially with covid and everything that was going on there were a lot of people here in Rochester that didn't know I left in fact there's there's two sisters outside um on that do cart witnessing and um so this is kind of like a visual that I am not a witness anymore and um it's led to some very kind of humorous interactions um with people they see me recognize me and then I see them look at my nose and it's like ah yeah you know I'll still you know wave and say hi I mean I know you know they can't talk to me but one of the things that's important for me is for people to know that when you leave your life doesn't fall apart because you left Witnesses it falls apart because we're not uh we're not equipped to deal with life outside of witnesses um so you know I kind of go between making my Instagram and my social media private versus not private you know because sometimes I'm like oh they don't deserve to know what's going on in my life but then other times I'm like you know I want them to see that I'm happy I'm the happiest I've ever been I'm actually engaged um to a absolutely wonderful Gem of a man um and you know it's like I want them to know that you know my life has continued and has blossoming um so you know I I I wonder um if they look I kind of hope they do um because you know I want them to see I'm just fine you know is there anything you wanted to add to this interview after all of that Janine I think this was such a great interview with you sharing so much about things that have happened to you in your life as over a decade of being a regular Pioneer with two foreign language congregations yeah you know I I think one of the things that's important too is to not demonize the individual people that are still Witnesses um you know I as much as I wish my I wasn't you know raised in a cult and or a high control religion whatever you want to call it um I think my parents really were trying to do the best they knew the best they knew how um I don't think that they did um do the best they could but um that's you know it is what it is and I think there are still really good people that are that happen to just happen to be Witnesses there's good people that are are witnesses there's good people that are not Witnesses there's very bad people that are witnesses and there's very bad people that are not Witnesses um one of the things I didn't really talk about was um the interactions I've had had with the issue with CSA in the religion um so I'll like put them all like briefly together um I don't know if you want to include this or not I realized I forgot to talk about it um so when I was um a child I was young I don't remember how old I was but I was really young um the hall I was in had a lot of children there was a lot of kids and um there was a family uh that moved in it was a blended blended family I believe and the father ended up uh molesting a lot of his kids and other kids he was a very prolific um child abuser and um when it came out obviously it was in the news because it was a very big case and of course they said he was a witness because he was and I remember at that time the sentiment wasn't oh that's so awful I mean there was people that said yeah that was an awful thing but the most awful thing was it brought reproach on Jehovah's name and I remember even as a kid I was like how could that be the worst part of this like how about all the people's lives that he like affected you know um and then also in my family one of my great uncles uh had been an elder for decades and he too had abused a lot of children and continued to be an elder um and nothing ever happened to him and it was always kind of like the Open Secret don't you know don't be alone with him don't let him touch you you know I remember the first the first time I had met him um he wanted to buy me an ice cream sandwich or something and ice cream sandwiches are one of my favorite desserts and it was a my one of my cousins or or a great ants I not exactly sure who what my relationship to her was or like what family Tai was um she she like yanked me away and was like don't you ever let him do anything for you and you know know at the time I had no idea what was going on it wasn't until I was an adult and um some people that he had abused uh confided in me about the abuse that I knew why she was like that and so it was kind of like why can't I'm thankful that she protected me and she actually was not a witness um so it was like my witness family didn't necessarily protect me um didn't you know warn us because they knew we were going to be around him um and then when I had just Jo joined uh French um we were still part of uh an English congregation and there was a brother in that congregation um that again has was known to abuse children and I had known this since I was um had moved to Rochester because um I had friends that were in that Hall and you know basically it was you know kind of like the Open Secret um and but it gotten to that point when I joined Russian in or French in 2012 um I guess there had been some additional issues with him um and they had gave a talk from the platform talking about how they had given him a set of rules and he wasn't following those rules um and basically he wasn't allowed to go in service with children he wasn't allowed to sit next to Children he wasn't you know he had to come late leave early um they you know basically listed out all the rules they had given him and said that he wasn't following them it wasn't necessarily a markeing talk it wasn't necessarily disfellowshipping it wasn't you know and at the end of the talk it was like if you don't know who we're talking about ask a friend or ask an elder you know so it was like it sounds like they were trying to protect people but really it's like okay well if he's still in the congregation how is this really protecting people and in the hall there were a lot of you know single parent households there were a lot of you know children that were coming in as Witnesses on their own so you know they were kind of you know basically Tak under the wing of somebody else um and then ironically like I want to say maybe a year or two later um I was in service and we went to a house that was in our territory was on our French territory and there he was with the young brother and the kids of the house were home and you know I happened to be with an elder I don't know what if or what happened after that but I was fully awake at that point and I was like I at that point I didn't know the scope of um the issues with CSA among Witnesses because one of the things that I um I forgot to talk about this one of the things I specifically did was I did not watch um xjw content um once I woke up and once I dis Associated again I specifically didn't watch xjw content simply because I wanted to think for myself um I had gone so long with people telling me what to believe I really didn't want any any other um influences telling me well you shouldn't believe this because XY and z and this doesn't make sense because XY andz I wanted to come up with that on my own um and that was um I think you know one of the you know big core memories and of course I you know learned about the envelopes and then you know kind of tying a lot of different information and experiences that I had had in my life it kind of tied everything together it's like oh that's why that happened that's why this person you know you kind of like make those connections that maybe when you're younger you didn't quite make um but yeah that was you know I I still think back to that talk and I I I still wonder you know with all of the how often talks like that happen I would love to know I don't think there's any numbers on that but it was a unique experience um and I don't know um if that's happened in other Falls or how often it happens um I think think it probably did help um some people because I think you know again you don't talk about it because they're not just Fellowship um because there's no two witnesses so you know they're just you know lurking in the congregations um and so I kind of hope that it did maybe protect some kids um that were in the congregation obviously didn't protect all of them or that talk wouldn't have been given um and obviously they can do more more is needed that is not sufficient in any way shape or form but you know I I you know wonder how much they use that Avenue of we're going to protect the children um because that's one of the things that actually does that could help yeah wouldn't solve it but it could help definitely yeah CSA child sex abuse is so big in the organization and no one talks about it in the organization they clean organization and blaming all the other religions yeah I was going to say it's and it's not you know unique to Witnesses um you know there's a big push to you know remove the um protection that Pastor you know pastors or religious clergy have when it comes to um confessions and confessionals and you know things like that because you know they kind of can hide behind you know the legal the legal ease and legality of well we don't have to um you know we don't have to disclose you know but at the same time yeah you may not have to but what is the moral thing legal you know laws that's just that's just laws what's the right what's the correct thing to do what is you know the moral thing you know I think a lot of you know religions and Witnesses in particular you know Pride themselves on having these you know High morals and but when it comes to this one you know one area it's like all morality just goes out the window there is no you know it's oh we have to we have to rely on the we have to rely on you know the law instead of why don't we do what's correct why don't we do what's right why don't we do what's you know loving to you know the most vulnerable uh members of the group yeah I totally totally understand again Janine thank you so much for sharing your story and thank you for being so vulnerable and so honest about all the different things that you did share about and I think that is it so I just want to say thank you again for watching this interview if you've made it this far and until next time

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