Final Fantasy VIII [Any% (Partial Cutscene Skips)] by Olson, awesomeWaves and bodcap - #ESASummer22

oh hello so my name is awesome waves and this is vodka and i'm awesome we're here to do a mostly full run of final fantasy 8 we're going to pull back some small bits that are a bit heavy on text in cutscenes um but we should be able to manage this in a shorter speed of time so we've got plenty time to talk so the opening cut scene takes about three minutes so i'll just start that off and we can set the timer here we go the great thing about speedrunning this game and providing commentary is we have three minutes at the start to just forget everything about the game and uh yeah try and think of the most interesting thing to like introduce the game but uh yeah so this is the pc version from it's a port that was released in 2013 it's of the 1999 pc version um there's been hd releases since but this is the most popular way to run the game on pc at the moment typically an 80 percent run takes about seven and a half hours uh but we're cutting it down like i said a small bit so we'll see we're actually not fully sure what the final time will be after we potentially have a blindfold at ester menu which is going to be done by arsene here if we meet the incentive so keep the donations coming in and we have a omega weapon fight which i think is myth or is very close to it it's very close i think yeah so we've got about 30 dollars to go so someone get that done vodka will be doing that and i'm stuck with the early game of this run which is uh by far probably the most difficult and orangey every part of the whole one we've given all the stress to autumn waves yeah and you wanted to do it so no pressure no that's fine we reset so often this game normally in uh in the groins first that we're quite comfortable with the start uh so all the way to the start of the game we're going to be there's a couple of things we're going to be doing uh one is obviously mining our step there's a step count active in all hostile scenes in finance ace probably something you've heard of if you're into final fantasy running or jrpgs in general so there's a step connective which will determine which encounters we get when we get the encounters and we'll use that to get ap in the right places and while we're doing all of that we're also going to be counting almost every action that occurs every camera that occurs at the end of battle fanfares and by using this tracking to count the rng value we'll actually be able to manipulate when we get certain cards so we're going to be getting the questions card very lon in the run which we'll refine later we can talk about that when we actually do that and then about an hour into the run which will be the end of my first segment as we're going to be co-opting the run we'll be getting the zell card which will be uh hopefully if we count correctly for an entire hour while performing all the boss battles all the step counts uh we should manage to uh find that yeah i think it's quite useful but uh well it's quite handy that one of the things that when people play this game casually triple triad is like one of their favorite parts of the game people love triple triad and it's objectively the best card game in any final fantasy but it's yeah exactly but it turns out that actually some of the cars are genuinely useful in the speed run and without them it wouldn't be possible to get anywhere near the sorts of times that we can get so uh yeah we actually get to play a couple car games which i know some people will be pretty happy about one thing we will be doing during this run um as autumn we've said we're going to be cutting down all the time a little bit and the way we're going to be doing that is by utilizing um a cutscene remover mod um so i guess shout outs to a sniper tv who is the creator of that mod who um painstakingly went through and yeah sort of removed code for like every cutscene in every like dialogue heavy uh opening is done i guess we need to listen from tim yeah about the we need the final name oh yeah okay we're closing that off right now we do have one final donation towards that we have m underscore ut3 again 25 squad baby uh that goes towards squab and i'm gonna do one final refresh give me a second let's have a look here we go okay squall's name will be nero a capital n e r o squab finished in second place but thank you so much we raised a total of 765 for that thank you very much watching absolutely oh hang on hang on no i apologize have you considered it's done it's done dude there's no going back now yep nero is eternal no worries uh yeah for those of you who have noticed for those of you who haven't uh we are praying in french because french is faster that's the shortest explanation we can give i guess it is about five to six minutes faster than english one of the strange things is that most people assume that when one language is faster than another one is because there's like fewer characters it has to go through in the actual text itself you know it can do things in your words um in this case for some reason the french version is actually coded differently to the english version and the text boxes themselves open and close like one frame faster per text box um which obviously over the course of several hours is actually significant but yeah it's where that's actually literally coded into the french version of the game yeah so technically the japanese language will be the fastest one but we do not have access to that in this steam 2013 version of the game but we do use japanese for the remaster because it is available there and again it is faster by around five to six minutes compared to fringe so as we've seen in the opening cutscene squall and his rival cipher were fighting each other in the training center and he ended up in the infirmary and greeted by his teacher and other party member is curses and cypher and the person that created the cutscene they're not the same person who just want to put that out there he is called life but he's not he's not that cipher [Music] i guess we should also mention comments 1899 to my mod version for the english language because it is a separate mode i guess for both french and english and since not everyone uses french most newer runners use english language we did need a mod version for that language too yep it's since become an actual category on the leaderboard at twitter.com so you can actually competitively run cutscene remover and i think something around 355 3 hours 55 minutes is currently the kind of top time it's just under four hours yep pretty manageable run as far as jrpgs go yeah so if you don't have you know seven and a half to eight hours to run the full game you can just do csr and it's the exact same around the exact exact same strats just less text and cut scenes which i think intimidates a lot of people it's just like i just don't have that time to sit down you know people like us do yeah yeah absolutely people with better things to do might only have four hours in which case customer mover is like the perfect way of [Music] actually getting a run finish but also practicing a run if you wanted to actually run 90 in the future or if you wanted to go even shorter again cypher has recently made a practice percent version which is like an hour and a half you can do the whole run an hour and a half for your practice yeah that's actually yes currently in development but it's looking really really good right now it's basically uh cuts out so i guess the cutscene remover itself will be we'll be using here um in terms of the actual speed run content it is completely identical to a standard 90 percent run that has all the cutscenes there all of the menus all of the battles all of the movement every option that you have to choose everything like that is all still in the game there's no difference whatsoever um so you can practice that and it all is directly applicable to doing 90 run whereas uh practice percent is basically if you just want to get used to the route make sure your menus and your battles are correct essentially uh make sure that that's all good um and there's versions of that that you can you can uh practice just step count on its own if that's something you're struggling with so yeah it's a really really useful tool um and i think it's helped a lot of sort of new runners try and try and get into the game just to mention there also we just picked up these seven cards much like 599 does also you get three cards at the start so you have enough to play a game effectively we got seven cards from that go in the hallway he said he's having he's had enough of the rng and he's done playing triple try he wasn't very good at tracking the rng here we don't exit the garden normally we use the guide box which is like a shortcut around the garden i mean the difference between f 8 and f 9 is that you can just walk past him and not pick up any guards and uh yeah it just means if you forget to do that then good luck playing any games yeah we are getting our first gifs here so shivan and we will be equipping them and uh this is our first men of the run actually no pressure i always miss this one is just impossible and people might uh be astute enough to notice that something slightly different about what we did there menu but we'll explain that as we go [Music] uh first to learn card second to learn ice magic are fine which we will use quite clean actually wasn't the worst for a marathon i was expecting the shaky hands to carry me away but perfect i think that's always my worst menu in pb attempts yeah without fail and the best part is you like reset that over and over again it's probably the one i've done most times and it's pretty short and i still mess it up so we're going to the fire cavern as part of our uh training our part of our seed exam to get a gf wild gif we're going to fight ifrit as the first boss and then we'll be able to use him also as a jeff who is one of the heavyweights or carries of the run because he has a strength junction off the bat but we can use him to get a slightly op relatively quickly for some reason there it just happens to be a convenient cavern full of lava and fire and stuff right next to a school two minutes um that they're used as an entrance exam before the real exam like uh where you have to fight a terrifying monster but i think i mean presumably if it just keeps coming back every time and getting beaten by small children over and over again the fun life he has yeah and the fire cavern is the first location where the whole style screens exist so we can get encounters here and this is where the movement actually starts to matter okay on the next fight i'll draw more just from ireland safety but at the moment we're all good to go yep so we're drawing funders from those but so each of these uh encounters that we're getting we know exactly what we're going to get um so we've got two bats there we can draw thunders from those uh the first thing we're going to be using that for is um uh in this upcoming boss battle against ifrit uh we're going to be using them to reduce uh the hp of both squarely well i think we'll be using the funds against christus they'll get her hp down um for a later fight um and then we'll be drawing even more of the thunders in a another fight that we'll have against two bats after the boss uh for some slightly more stressful fights coming up and we also uh only killed one of the bats we didn't kill the second one so as to avoid the victory if an affair because it just wastes time we can kill the other but the next fight will get after effort basically to get the ap that we need yeah i wasn't planning on using the thunders to damage crystals here oh you know no no oh yeah because there's a little squat isn't it yeah oops sorry are you influencing you open the magic menu that's this because i told you it's a complete accident yeah i'm also not completely boost off using ds2 but we're good to go so i'm running from the fights if anyone's explaining why i'm running yeah so as you can see wheat is indeed impossible um so yeah we're running from the fights because um there's a couple of things that it kind of skips um if even if your characters are in critical hp uh then what they normally do is like crouch from the ground or they they appear hurt um and it takes time for them to actually uh go into that animation and also if you cue an attack they didn't have to like get up and um maritime like here we go yeah i know this isn't the most fun i've seen someone else christmas twice and then all the fires went on squall yeah oh there we go another one i hope we're not gonna be short on downs yeah yeah there's nothing i don't see a problem with that what could go wrong in dollars yeah yeah is there any rng involved there oh that is also school i think yeah there we go oh perfect uh because he's on two hp these are of course yeah only four hits and no rough divide that's okay there we go oh yeah technically the lower hp of the characters is the higher crisis level should be which means we have higher chance of getting a better limit break basically which for school means uh he should get more hits in but somehow he still only get the four on the first when he breaks more that's better yeah i think i can just hold attack was it five on the first one four and a second uh yes yeah anything else hold x to win here and we should be okay hopefully yeah we'll find out oh he's talking now so it's fine kind of skips his turn when he does that talking should definitely so as we were saying before we are tracking rng throughout all of these fights so one of the things we're saying is that tracking there is that uh scored if three limit breaks we need to take note of that and he did i believe three three physical attacks on himself um so with all of those things like add a certain amount of uh of value to a particular rng value and i'm just in the menu portion school now i think that's why we don't want to use any more phoenix down so you start the game with four phoenix downs and uh they are if you use them early they can be quite tight um in the first hour of the game so yeah potioning and bringing hp down again is definitely the better call okay so i'm gonna draw twice here let's go let's get a few extra um new extras even though we got quite a lot there i think one more and you'll be golden yeah i think we're gonna have like 20 now like it's yeah yeah put it like three rounds with those so uh there's something else we're gonna do here i don't know uh if anyone is familiar with final fantasy 8 runs on their rng factor is that for the longest of times uh in all runs up until recently people had to go to the beach because we want to get fish fins from the fish on the beach and we would have to get ideally five of them minimum in three encounters fish since then thanks to the work of pingvel a japanese runner he uh mapped out the rngs and the initial attack patterns for all 256 versions of the fight that occurs on the beach and using that data you would have a vod cap and t89 keto and profile we managed to make a nip that you can use to um to get five four five or six in one encounter to the menu or am i implementing i did not do that many notes i'm used to doing uh because of the fish fin of browse i've been learning in different rooms but so i'm going to push this call again uh yes yeah it's safer and christmas too um split the magics so this is kind of like a marathon version of what we should be doing but let's split these i think four more on squadrons or something that's fine really good uh ifrit from the fight we will start uh teaching him the strength plus 20 percent junction and i guess as we make our way to the beach that is a perfect time for some donations before we start the uh fishing mate thank you very much indeed we have some donations for you we have ten dollars from t-89 two things no jig and don't forget the letter i'm certain bob i'm certain bobcat got the first one covered can't guarantee the second though good luck gentlemen history in the making i can't i can't promise anything yeah we're gonna i gotta have to interject again because we didn't expect to get zero encounters on the beach so what we're going to do here is that we're going to count the so i pause adb at the moment while you're in the menu sub menu like this nothing is moving abs forward i'm going to let adb move and see what the first fish does so here it's christmas fish attacks christus for 24 damage the train four two six twenty four we go again see what the so we're going to do this three times so then it's chris this is fish attack squad for 26. and we already have the pattern so the next switch is going to be crystal tech squall for 26. yep perfect so what this now means is we know exactly what index uh there's 256 possible like ways to start this fight there's 256 possible ways that the fish could have attacked there so we know exactly like what's going to happen from in this fight from now on and um because we were able to track those those damage values uh what was going to do now is uh summon quetzalcoatl so now the fish have been popped out of the ground by that thunder spell uh uh or gog offer in french is uh you need to do 12. [Music] so yeah so while this summon animation happens uh you can refresh the adb a number of times and every time you refresh the atb it moves an rng value for the battle along by one uh and we've sort of mapped out what in what that value starts at for each individual index and then how many we need to move it along by to get a high drop number of fish should be getting six here so for the sake of the thanks very much for the sake of the uh because we're all running different routes so i'm running around currently that uses this map and just go straight to the garden but for the moment we are going to get the ap as planned by doing three encounters so it's kind of a counterproductive but it should work on i did the squall attack there yeah okay yeah uh you actually use tundras save that yeah so i mean this ends up so it's quite good to demonstrate that that fish filming it actually works but it's a uh i think for safety we can do the fish from nip and then do these to make sure we get like a load of ap that will make things you know a lot easier during dollar and then we can uh continue you remember that i want to well limit so we have a piece of software that kind of you you can put all of these things and it kind of works out what the rng changes actually need to be but we're using because we're using sort of a bit of a frankenstein route to demonstrate that fish for a minute um uh yeah we have to make sure we've input things incorrectly and remove things from other other places that would normally be there it is something we really wanted to demonstrate for the run because it is fairly groundbreaking in the early game of ff8 and there is also a new version of that manip made by kyvel another french runner um but it's a bit more uh comfortable to perform on console because of the 30 fps battles yeah this is great because like very often you will spend like two to three hours just resetting on the beach trying to get five fish fins in three fights and like sometimes just do not get it for two hours and like you just have to play the day basically there you go so we can actually try and figure out how many we might have gotten if we didn't do that i think the worst i've ever seen was um uh because because if you don't get enough fins in three fights you can do a fourth and try and get it there and you it's too much ap you don't need that much ap but you know if you need if you just want to finish a run then then you can just do an extra fight i think the worst i've ever seen is someone getting zero followed by one followed by one followed by zero nice yeah so the reason we are even tracking the rng like and i mentioned before is that we need that for the card game because we do want to get well the quest card in the first place and the way it works is that when we are on the screen where you can choose if you want to play or quit on that screen the enemy hand will change every frame uh and by tracking the rng we can know uh what will be the i guess the handle on the frame zero basically on the on the subsequent frames uh because not all of the hands and not all of the frames contain chris's cards so we just need to hit the correct frame uh in order to get the quizzes card first try basically because otherwise it is about 16 percent chance or something i'm not even sure i think it's yeah it's low yeah it's low that's enough to know i guess yeah that's all of our ap gathers zero encounters like just zero this is this doesn't disappear it doesn't happen like average is two one is super good and zero just doesn't happen ever except today i guess yeah there you go marathon look did we have a second sorry yeah yeah yeah yep thank you very much receiving quite a bit of love here we've received uh 50 from cc gambit high waves olson and bobcat best of luck with this one it's great to see all of you up on the big stage showcasing this fun little run also people need to see this s the menu blindfolded and how insane it is get those donations in well an update on that i believe we are still just over a hundred dollars away from the blindfolded esther but we have met defeating omega weapon so we will be seeing that later on uh in the run we've also received fifty dollars from 50 keys who just says good luck on the run thank you very much indeed very much just for a moment we're back to the outcome of this rng counting minute for the first time uh thanks to work archival also this is uh we're able to do this now after previously would have done it very very start game but now we're gonna do it here so using the timing of the manip hopefully this goes well yeah okay so there is a backup strat to uh when you don't get the correct rng it could be a few different things could be normally we calibrate our computers to the timing of the manip so it could be that we were out a few frames or that we had plus one this one oh yeah we were just one out of the rng so one limit break incorrect okay so i'm gonna soft reset the game but unfortunately you can't stop reset during game so i'm gonna doesn't matter what i do here with you yeah you must have discounted something i'm not sure what but it happens yeah it's fine you can just do it second try suffice it go from there that's why we've saved before for the game now that we know the correct we added we inputted the values of the cards that were actually played in the game and it told us what the correct uh rng value was and now we just do it again yep even i've got 30 frames but or worse oh it's quite early again [Music] perfect one okay we will be doing this once more so once more so yeah uh basically our cards suck our cards are very bad and it is difficult to win the game so we have like very specific patterns of what we need to do in order to win the game like we figured out based on the enemy ai basically and waves just played their own cards so yeah bot cap didn't change the image quickly i'm gonna play bad cap here work as fast as i can man doing what i can i'll be lightning speed this time yeah all right it's the same same timing same timing [Music] this means to get here even more of the triple triad is it shuffle or boogie i think it's called i think it's boogie it's something something about boogieing [Music] okay yeah there we go while you're doing that do we have time for a couple quick more absolutely thank you very much indeed we've received twenty dollars from a gibbon awesome to see great people running this game with the most banger ost of all final fantasy games let's see some hopefully non-scuffed esther menuing yes jig thank you very much indeed uh andrew 192 20 had to donate during the final fantasy 8 run my favorite final fantasy and it has the best soundtrack good luck to the runner and have a great run and very quickly logic gaming 15 long time watch and first time donator long time no see let's go boys make us proud thank you very much indeed and they all go towards the uh blindfolded esther incentive correct and it's now less than 70 dollars away awesome thank you very much everyone thank you guys for the donations it's nice to some familiar names donating so as you can see the money worked the first try easy let's go keep it up but this is not the end of rng tracking we still need to keep track of what happens in dollars basically until we uh can play wells man for his card because of course she does have his cars who doesn't have a picture of their child and there was but they played people for keeps oh yeah yeah she doesn't get to keep the camera no no we're going to see it yeah oh we won it's fair and square or hopefully we will win it was fair and square [Music] like i was mentioning at the start it is definitely the more stressful hour of the game to for me to run the start but uh a lot of stuff can go wrong hopefully with enough phoenix downs and nothing else does go wrong but you guys think it's worth going buying phoenix stones or anything i wonder do we have we have two [Music] [Music] attack only attack only attack yeah um yeah i'm not sure maybe we could just nip up from the port to the shop can we yeah i think that's possible oh no i'm not sure is actually because you will we have enough then for like the next drop we sell uh elevator there's a lot of spare yeah um yeah i think it might be it's not far it's not fair let's try it marathon safety i think it might be worth it just in case oliver kills once and um it messes with item arrangement actually as well then after yeah so one of the things in um uh the next portion of the gaming dollar is this kind of two quite annoying bosses back to back from one another um there's yeah they both have quite a high chance of killing school if you know you just get bad luck so um with only two phoenix downs is usually fine but usually is a bit less than what we won i think normally i run i think if you're on a pb attempt you would probably reset if it if the squad dies to efforts so we would always be entering dollar with four just back up phoenix downs obviously ideal situation scotland never knows but yeah like like with waves mentioned the first hour or so is definitely the most stressful because we are just not simply super strong yet we will only get super strong later on uh mainly due to getting the uh i guess strong magic from zelda right and then also a strength plus 60 percent from questions or the other way around whatever and not only are the battles sort of longer and harder but you've got to keep tracking the rng if you're doing zelda manipulation and leg questions you've got to keep tracking the rng all the way through the hardest battles of the game there is just a lot of things you need to pay attention to at the same time basically while also doing the difficult fights because fights get much easier later on as we get stronger basically anyone might have noticed there that robin williams is the headmaster of the alarm garden as well he just happens to send us off on our mission yeah rest in peace yeah sorry worries we are going to take an exam i guess to become seed a part of the mercenary forces that go around the world and yeah kill people i guess oh an important question for for waves i guess is are you going to spin the wheel always spin the way always spin the wheel we won't tell you what exactly what that means until it happens but it should become quite obvious but there is a one in eight chance this is going to be incredibly anticlimactic so if anyone in chat wants to guess which direction the camera might happen to uh drive into dallas completely yeah yeah for no reason at all time but now in chess i i have a feeling it's going to be down i don't know i'm going to stay up left do i i'm going to do all those so what i'm going to do is just spin the analog stick and just see what happens whatever happens happens yeah and if it's straight down we know we should just reset the run go home we just know that we're not going to get any good rng for the rest of the run right so yeah i think i know i won't be a pessimist i'll say left okay okay okay i'm gonna say downright downright is the one that looks like it's possible in in a real-life sense like it looks like a normal drift personally i always do upright because i like it here we go yeah let's go spin the wheel oh no well we just reset now yeah reset can we run it back oh no that was a one-day chance that it was just gonna be directly down yeah it's it's run is cursed it just it moves in exactly the same way it just like it would just be pointing in whatever direction during the screen transition so i'm going to go get some phoenix stones just on that bad moment can you do that i think you can do it now now yeah we'll find out everyone hurry school go to the boat i've got some shopping to do actually i'll be back there in two minutes need to get some kitkats come on so yeah just for marathon safety we're just going to grab these i don't think it's going to um yeah hopefully back to what would happen in a normal situation how many times can you die in dollars oh enough i guess like bix could kill you then l for it then it's atm three is probably better we'd be fine anaconda maybe yeah it's one we will be making uh safety saves also for the two bosses on the comms towers oh yeah in entering and leaving the comstor oh don't forget that your you didn't mention you in the cave so you might be a bit yeah oh you're behind uh yes i will do something to rectify that i'm sure yeah but i guess we can't do the money anymore economy again yeah as long as you get the um red soldier at the end like the important part is the yeah the walking dead oh yeah i guess it's fine okay then we can just buffer to get there soldier yeah or just force it there yeah like as long as you don't get the one in power i guess oh actually yeah you need to buffer to not get the one tower i mean we are going um a walking step as normal i won't do the thing the little tiny setup and it should be fine because i've been doing it with my route it seems to work out uh for those completely confused what we're talking about at the moment there are also two encounter skips that are only possible on pc or hd whereby if you screen transition on the exact frame uh movement frame not exactly frame frame movement frame that uh you would have gotten an encounter it the game thinks you got the encounter so it doesn't mess up any previous routing uh but you actually just skip the entire counter so there's two points where you want to do that one is much later and it's uh a little more on g heavy the first one that happens is in about an hour and 20. we can actually maintain step count perfectly until that happens so that it's completely consistent every one however i already messed it up and while we watched one of the best fmvs in the game i guess we can listen to some donations again oh thank you very much because they're coming in we've received 50 from faust one of the best events one of my favorite games just take my money thanks to everyone involved and good luck on your run that goes towards blindfolded esther menu and we have 100 from esa's rasmus which goes towards yes thank you that goes towards naming angelo cat now remember you do still have d'angelo and uh manoa naming incentives so please get your donations in for them and finally very quickly twenty dollars dr leandre best of luck bobcat olsen and waves can't wait to sing along in space thank you very much indeed should we tell him we should probably yeah the reason there's no incentive actually thanks so much for everyone for the donations again uh the reason there's no incentive for space is that we might not be going to space so well we'll be going to space very very briefly just just a quick detour to space um so yeah we will be like we said showcasing after disc one we're gonna do the entirety of disc one as normal and uh we'll explain the jankiness and the cutscene remover that might happen afterwards can i also quickly sneak in we've just passed 47 thousand dollars for save the children thank you very much indeed keep the solutions coming in [Applause] uh we have about an hour i guess left until reno and angelo naming takes place so keep them coming for sure let's have a look at the cards there just make sure they're still there you can't be too careful so uh what wave is doing here he just refined the um fisheries that we got against the uh the battles on the beach um uh into waters so we now have 100 water um [Music] magics yeah yeah i was about to remind you of that uh so we so we now have four uh i saw a hundred water magics um on school's strength junction uh the reason why this is like uh in the early game is such a powerful uh magic to have is because there's it in traditional final fantasy sort of uh standard is that you know there's there's fire fire and ferraga are the three sort of tiers of spell um for for water elemental um damage in this game there is only one spell called water there's no ortera or waterga but it functions as a mid-level spell so it's on the same level as fyra blizzara that kind of thing so and there's no other way of getting mid-level spells this early in the game this quickly so that's why they're particularly um potent in the very early game when all of the enemies were fighting against them not quite as strong there was a g soldier exactly yep everyone attacked once this one sorry come on come on come on this fight is uh scripted when they jump off the bridge so we can do this uh with predefined inputs every single time [Music] and the way you get super strong and break the game completely is by getting uh high level magic or high tier magic way sooner than we should be able to fix through i guess item refinement basically one of the reasons why that is so powerful for the entire game is um the way that basically leveling works in this game for some reason all bosses and enemies as you go through the game's scale with your level i think it was probably intended to be a mechanic to stop you from needing to grind or you know or anything like that but would it mean but the fact that that exists but there's also a separate way completely separate from leveling itself to actually make yourself stronger means that you can manipulate by having your levels be incredibly low it means your enemies are incredibly level but you can then buffer yourself in a different way so you're just doing insane damage against very very low level uh enemies those deciphers cool so yeah we're continuing the rng tracking every attack uh that i either are three party members or a g soldier does um counts towards the rng if the soldier casts fire on us however that doesn't do anything for some reason that doesn't contribute towards r d tracking so we just have to have to be aware in every single fight of what doesn't doesn't affect the rng it comes aft uh after doing it a few times it gets pretty second nature what's what you need to count what you doing yeah oops yeah and the reason waves damaged scalder was cypher in the previous fight was because uh we need score to be a bit lower in fee i guess this is fine actually he wants to be okay because we will be using his limit break again to like destroy all of the bosses here because for now squall is the strongest party member and here i'll explain after with a very important thing to do here is just how you'd be to okay then that this it looks like cypher is just talking to himself yeah he's monologuing she experienced stuff i've never seen that before it's very important i used to always say it's very important i'll tell you in a minute why and then i talk about something else completely and so on an hour later we just like why are you hiding behind them why do you do that always keep chat guessing only the highest level runners uh it's very difficult trick to perform now we are also using turbo today to match for the dialogues and turbo is actually allowed at least on the pc leaderboards for this game so you know if you are not a font of mashing that's not a problem either there's a turbo console turbo board as well so and there is a lot of things that they'll go through in this game and i guess we can listen to some donations again before we move on to the anaconda fight yeah fantastic thank you we have received 55 anonymous donation that just says i love trains well i can definitely get behind that i love trains as well i'm not sure not sure the runners like them though what's the opinion on trains how could you not love trains we've got one more for you we've got ten dollars from mutsuki who says hi friends glad to see final fantasy 8 is being run by um camp stan olsen baguette hero bobcat and the wcw nwo revenge legend of ireland waves best of luck on the run lads you're all going to be great at least it can't be worse than wales failed car spin so it's all downhill downhill from here really sorry not finished keep it real your favorite speed mutt kev thank you very much indeed mutsuki thank you so much if if anyone's going to be the most disappointed in the fact we didn't get the car spin it's going to be him probably yeah you should have brought a baguette with you as well i should have very obsessed with that i haven't even eaten one since i've been here not one i couldn't find kitkats in the shop either i was actually very disappointed yeah um so i will buffer after this encounter as well just push that next together back i don't yeah we just need the red soldier yeah throat so okay so i did create this rope myself but just the fact that i haven't ran it in once uh i kind of forget slight details about it i mean when are you ever not creating new routes yeah like just industry role he he he finishes one moves on to another one leaves the rest of us in the dust that's it so the anaconda fights coming up this is notoriously troll also um normally like uh but kevin mentioned earlier i tried to get squall's hp ready to use them to break instantly uh it's i've found that the more you do that the more chance you're he's going to hit squall straight up oh yeah kill him all right yeah i like to aim to deep squat with a higher hp you also have less uh alton mentioned earlier as well to keep the crisis levels uh the lower hp you have the more crisis level you get which means the more hits or longer it takes for squall's limit break to uh to complete so the higher hp squall is that's it there we go there we go just like this would be enough it just like the other fight um this is also scripted um as a strike first for anaconda so you start with zero atv which just gives anaconda more time to you know hit squall and he hits hard so nice easy that's why you want about the limit break and four heads and there you go yep squeeze two cypher once and there's a and there's oh yeah and a one character camera oh very hard not to hum along with with the ost of this game it's just uh that's usually my entire stream just it's just me sitting either in silence or just uh long term because i mean particular soundtrack yeah the soundtrack in eight is absolutely astounding yeah some people mentioned the donations that this is the best soundtrack in all of the games and like it's hard to disagree honestly oh boy no boo because while other other games have some like absolute bangers ffa is like full of wingers and like it's just consistent consistently consistently very good non-stop i was about to say without exception but i'm not sure that's quite true there's one really good song halfway through it's an optional one you can only hear once but we've gone here today though yeah i think i'm doing it are you doing it yeah i think i think so that works out quite nicely for you isn't it just convenience yeah what was the chances that i wrote down what parts were doing and just happened to be doing that part as well you were the one writing it down scammed here we get introduced to the next uh long-lasting party member or best girl selfish girl yeah yeah definitely her initial clumsiness is you know this is as far as it goes she actually is very useful very useful yeah well for the end game she just like he's dead for all of it but you know that's okay but that's useful in a way for the other party members so i mean yeah or usually no at least so i mean it'll be difficult i guess to be less useful than we know us this whole game would have just been very easy or very straightforward plot if renault just didn't mess it all up i know i think personally the quistis is the most used in terms of like the speed run because you have you you're forced to have her at the start of the game and all she does is miss doesn't do anything else she dabs while she misses them yeah i mean renault has one job in the run and she always messes it up for me at least hopefully like one fight where you use her and she just can't do it it's not even her though it's her dog julia i mean she's the owner so like yeah i guess doesn't train properly so it's going to take we'll find out um i think my plan was to run to the save point here and then because like we mentioned about um step count we step count is active in the next screen but we also want to save for marathon safety but we want to maintain step count as best as we can so i believe that the strategy is to run directly to it and then we'll buffer up the i think doing it either way it's fine so one of the reasons why i actually do already go over menu buffers nope what they use before go ahead so um one of the reasons why we might want to uh well we'll see you'll see what we mean in terms of buffering here so he's just gonna as he's walking towards the elevator he's just gonna keep opening and closing the menu uh until we get there the reason for that is because uh the the step count itself the actual back-end values where the uh the rng the actual step uh the fractions between steps and step ids are progressing um they don't increase while the screen transition is happening so the fade from a black screen to the screen itself takes i think it's about two like physical steps worth of uh worth of time um those values are not increasing at all during those so that's either from transitioning from one screen to another if you go between screens or if you are closing the menu and going from the menu into the back into the field screen um so yeah while that's happening um you can you can kind of get three steps in that way and um so if you're uh if you're behind steps so if you sort of walk too much that's one way of getting yourself back on it it needs to be and because we purposely walked too far in order to go to the same point more than we normally would then we'd do a few buffers there just to get us back to where we would uh expect to be while this cutscene's happening you can read one two donations fantastic this was always one of my favorite cutscenes anyway we have 50 dollars from chris i love this one of final fantasy 8. it might be because when i was a kid i lost disc two so the story for me ended with squall dying to the sorceress t-89 donates 10.89 any abba fans in this building please raise your hands and that goes towards the cat name for angelo and it goes to carl 25 did you know that you're the best looking guys at the esa marathon thank you very much indeed for those generous donations remember all your donations do go towards save the children please please get those donations in remember sixty dollars gets a goat so uh please get those donations in you're doing a fantastic work for charity thank you i think you must have read that last donation for the wrong game uh yeah body cam is famously in the ffa community and i'm a super fan yeah oh yeah you burst into super trooper just out of the blue go on give us a blast no we should obey that an incentive i mean you can make it an official incentive yeah but i don't want [Laughter] so this is the fight um it's kind of a two-phase fight first we fight that's actually three guys will technically fight big first and then biggs and wedge and then albert in um this might be hard to get actually i might just speed buffer [Laughter] so the important uh thing in this fight is to make sure you actually target a wedge in the second phase i guess because you can actually just damage things again and it will end the fight but you will not get ap from wedge and we do need that iep to learn the abilities that we need and the items that he drops as well yeah he draws specific items as well if you don't deplete all of his hp then he doesn't drop them [Music] and this is the flying jay leno at wings yep i guess flying with wings is kind of [Laughter] yeah ideally you want to draw a siren with dell as scholarly so that you can search for the element break while the drone animation happens to get some free time and don't allow alvarez to purchase his atv yes quite a common strategy in a lot of boss fights is to use um attacks uh with players with with characters that you actually don't need to use an attack for just to have enough time for you to search for a limit break with another character when they've got full atv so that's the second swell yeah especially that usually the enemy animations are much longer than their own attacks so we can just use our own attacks yeah that's fine release and fight honestly nine hp though will be okay yeah that's perfect for example as long as he doesn't do it i get all of those rap devices now i've done exercise hp once oh yeah yeah that's no problem and that is elberth um the next boss is the so they're out we're currently running uh is a road i've made based on what previous people have done before it's called ecm which means early card mod so what we're going to do uh in the next fight which is not the normal uh casual strat is that we're going to actually defeat the xadm uh that we'll be facing next and we're going to try to get the 50 ap off it and do another glitch that allows us to run away when we're not supposed to run away so that is the plan the next fight to do that we need to deplete almost 4 500 worth of uh hp which at this level of the game at the stage with our junctions and our stats is not an easy feat so i worked out a strategy by using rinse cooking with squall which is limit break um and doing them in a specific way and trying to make up damage uh using these rough divides so we need to hope that we get at least two rough device which is completely rng but obviously as also mentioned at a lower um hp you're more crisis level so there should be more chance that we do get it but you can also get too many rough divides and then it's going to be coming because we need to deal very specific damage because like we need to make sure we don't over damage basically because we don't want to run we don't want to run away from the fight at a specific moment so i guess we can give waves a bit of quiet time so that he can focus yeah that should be a little difficult to save before yeah and to buffer he will need to like be counting the damage and the attacks and stuff like that right i'll do the menu here now as well so for this marathon safety i'm actually going to give selfie uh items has that and then gif we're gonna set them what we want them to learn so i said if we turn hpg which we'll learn instantly and it's there i've already said sorry i need to remember that selfie has thunderous i was going to remind you yeah it's forget that easiest so here we go this is the other heavy reset point of the run you know you know it's also a fun fight to watch someone do a pb attempt with because you basically usually you're just saying random numbers random numbers to yourself just just to keep track of everything while it's i'm gonna hear that probably like one two one one zero zero yeah two one one oh it's this is currently 101. so one the first value is for squall's limit break the second one for rough divides and the third one is for zero attacks so as we're going to try and not over damage and under damage we're we left off two triggers there so that this unless it crits which would be terribly unlikely um does not knock down excidium because we need to do as much damage as possible [Music] perfect and this is actually the fight order we make heavy use of buffering or attacks or our limited breaks with other party members attacks because we are racing against time x8 teams atp is very fast and we need to make sure we squeeze in uh six limit breaks before alright it's now four limit breaks before x atm gets up again so two on one two and two and three one two [Music] four one two if i don't get it off the right here either us yeah also the diamond rolls were quite kind of low so using the thunder here so that counts as one more off divide so i'm going to say two to our army roughly four like i said random numbers being said out loud all the other ffv8 runners will know what's going on okay we should be fine now that's five three two so i'll just do uh an attack maybe attack yourself just in case not to every dimension yeah good okay now i start fleeing so if we did this correctly we should have depleted xadm's hp just now while this final limit break is happening and as we're doing that as i'm holding flee the check that the game decides that you are allowed to flee are not allowed to flee is still held from when he was knocked down so he gets up because he's over damaged and we still get to flee so we should all going well get 50 ap there it is that is actually one of the most difficult fights in this round for sure surprised that went so well i don't know especially online hp yeah so yeah my heart was actually opponent that's actually a very difficult point to perform it's probably one that because of the route differences now we don't have the very difficult fight versus diablos with zell which was famous in the route as well previously so this is our most difficult fight that's there i'm just going to walk alone i was practicing lately and i accidentally ran faster trying to be swag so so on that screen there's a specific line uh and if you run past it then you'll enter into another fight with x atm here sort of he catches up to you and you have to do another fight but if you just walk over the trigger line then he doesn't bother so you can on this screen he'll chase you but it'll try and jump over you you can kind of juke him by this lamp post here you can just go back and uh we re cross the line he'll jump back over the other direction leaving you free to leave the leave the screen are we saving the logo doing a 360. [Laughter] 720 is very difficult on analog movement so you might need to force the but i can just kill him here and you'd be 66. yeah yeah that's fine okay let's see what the enemies so i'm going to force the counter here um yeah all right and this is where we get our final oh it's a back attack and all perfect so i'm going to attack with squall and hopefully that shouldn't kill i will kill him i mean if he don't trigger if he's low level he can't kill the bucket oh yeah yeah oh yeah of course he dies just just potion him now yeah yeah whatever oh i can do the menu it's not a big deal okay so we left the screen on the same like like i mentioned about screen fades we left on the exact same step count that we got the encounter oh yeah yeah um so we know exactly what the step id uh and encounters will be for the next section and that's how we perform the skip i'll just wait yeah quite hang on the last available frame so you've ten frame window to get uh to get this little character on zelda it's a lot it's a lot larger than 10. oh is it just like 19 i think okay this quistis is 10 but for zelda it's larger than that we currently are on the very last possible frame so we have to wait a cycle yeah that's it so we what we've got in front of us is essentially like a a command line window that has uh you press enter and sort of a line of asterisks will scroll across the screen and when it hits a certain target that's when you know that zelcod would appear if you were to uh accept the game at that moment and what it's basically telling us is if uh hits it on the exact first frame he will get the zelda card but any other frame after that he won't but eventually a new set of asterisks will slide along after a certain period of time so that's probably the easier way of going about this yeah assuming that we counted all the rng correctly but i think oh i i'm not confident at all but yeah back when the money did not exist you actually had to go for dollars so like spend an hour or so of the run and then you had like ten percent chance to get zelda first right so yeah like you would it was even later it was actually they used to do it after diablos oh yeah into the run you just yolo uh yolo get zel carried the one and ten percent 110. yeah so running ff8 back then definitely it was not fun and that's why also there was a route that simply did did not use that card at all because it was just so random to get it if you want to do the 2f menu normally i can delete the thunders now i mean normally they'll be on quest though they're still on chris's they both have them i don't know i'll just leave them from i mean yeah whatever all your meaning will be the same you could have potion too but fine [Laughter] um okay so we introduce the room so we're not gonna play cards off the path so now we go talk to her again and go can i have your son's card please and here we go cross your fingers okay that's pretty centered okay there we go okay so let you type them in and then i'll draw this game yep you have it uh well yeah we got the counting right timing around the timing was wrong looked right in the middle of the it did look right it did look very right yeah okay let's do it again there we go for a second try ready to go square i'm gonna do with that can i give a quick donation yep okay we've received ten dollars from archie with a question there we go did you remember to draw siren thank you very much indeed thank you we did right yep so second try we managed to uh get this old card now this is a little bit less stressful request this once you actually have zelda on the screen with the questions card you have to make sure you use the exact um uh a card order of cards in the right places um to uh to win the game and actually keep the rng correct um whereas with zelle it doesn't matter what card she plays at all the same strategy will work every time there's three only three possible options and uh depending on who goes first that's this that's all the card rng manip done we've got all the cards we need for the game so unfortunately that is the end of triple triad in the road where a lot of weight is lifted off the shoulders i think because you have the zell card which is not guaranteed you've managed to actually get the ap from xatm you've gone through all the stressful fights you don't have to you know that from now onwards you don't have to do any uh zell tracking any car tracking you can just play the game and uh i'm not gonna say it's easy from now on but no but it's definitely like for all of us i feel the stress is lifted it's been done like this is definitely the moment where i can say i have the run going basically yeah finally i don't know why i continue to match even though we have turbo yeah like when i use turbo then i just measuring fmvs because i'm just so used to matching like i think it's holding the ds2 because when i was grinding and mashing i was using a ds2 and now i use a kwami turbo controller and it just feels different and i'm done i don't mesh on that oh yeah i forgot to move and this is the point where i'm going to pass the controller over to olsen for the next segment of the run so here we go give it up for awesome waves oh thank you very much [Applause] and so the first thing that olson will have to do now that he's taking control of the game is um one of the trickier minions i think um [Music] it's one of the uh he gets all the menus he's got all the tricky moves oh he does have all the yeah do you want to try this one blindfolded so um there's a few menus in the game uh and also we'll be doing i think all of them um where there's a pretty much a set a period of time in in which is kind of like free time to do any menu you want to do the game won't progress the story won't progress after x amount of time has passed so you can use that time to do like a lot of menuing if you're if you're fast enough essentially and you won't lose any time any net time uh in this particular menu that's coming up now uh 50 seconds 51 seconds ish um is the uh uh is the length of time that also got to do quite a lot of things um because now that we uh have card mod we are able to utilize that um to uh basically make ourselves super obese way stronger even i mean we felt pretty strong in dalit but now we're gonna be more than that quite significantly all by one card we're waiting still to get the diablos gif and we get he's carried as soon as we get to gf uh so we're going to see olson refine the items that we got from biggs and wedge the tents and the cottages qrago magics just sign max in french um straight after that we're going to see him use the card mod to refine the cards like we said cool and then gonna set the gf's to learn next abilities that we need actually so there's nothing for survival so just stop learning actually because we're done swap some magics across delete thunders we don't need them anymore and then some item arrangements the item arrangement you're doing right here is actually not important at all until the end of the run this is how you set up the items for the final boss so we do that now as your free time everything is quick enough and right here we're just going to move things so they're ready for the coming up menus as well use the strength 60s which we got from the zelda card and then equip them and that is oh it's ready gonna be good yep i think you're about nice very good that's one of the uh the menus that feels the nicest if you absolutely nail it and get it done in time it is quite easy to do on the older route i guess but it is super tight in ecm because we do a bit of extra menu in here i think i finished it in like you can do like 36 37 seconds um without uh with all the card mod stuff because you're you find yourself waiting always that's it we have graduated as a seed almost got to be given some life advice first from uh everyone else gets quite useful advice uh the only thing he says to school is hooray we now have a gun blade i guess we could do one quick donation here thank you very much we have ten dollars from bro far sent you the traditional whatsapp good luck thank you very much dude your generous donation remember folks that all your donations are going towards save the children please keep those nations coming in forty seven thousand four hundred and twenty six dollars can we hit forty eight thousand uh before i come off in about what a couple of hours let's see if we can it's an ongoing meme that bro fire just what taps me a picture of himself on the delivery season during runs doing runs or just to distract us never fails so profile uh helped us out quite a lot with the fisher manipulation actually creating uh a useful website that you can actually search for the index and stuff like that he has a website where like there's actually loads of really useful um ffa tools that we can use yeah there's loads of useful tools and one chaotic tool which is a randomizer for the controls control randomizer yeah [Applause] there we go yeah because we became sid now we passed the exam sniper didn't because he made some questionable decisions i guess there we go at extra points for 360 running around the dog saving him i wish that was true no you do get points for saving the dog i think it goes into judgment or conduct yeah unfortunately not true not swagging there is a leaderboard category um for uh finishing the dollar escape sequence that we've now finished with the perfect seed score so you have to do everything i i don't even know what's involved in there's a lot there's a lot of stuff you've got to do you've got to like kill xatm like five times to do like a i can't remember how many enemies you have to kill in dollars like it's a lot of grinding yeah and i hope you're enjoying the visage uh of school's face right now because as we all know he is the best guy in the room doesn't look at that but on pc he's got a disappointingly large amount of pixels i i prefer it when he's just a blob yeah it's just like eight pixels yeah a square on the just a three by three like basically beige it's one of the more famous memes sure if you just google best looking guy squall you'll you'll find us an enlarged picture of her joining the festival committee not today i tend to do it quite often actually but today that's one of my most frequently incorrectly put for the non-fluent french people here the question there was will you join the garden festival committee and alton let's let her down disappointed her dash your dreams i mean thankfully selecting the wrong option here isn't that big of a deal it doesn't lose time at all yeah there's quite a lot of things that you know they only affect the run by a few text boxes here and there but like the length of the game and the amount of times we have to actually make those sorts of options if you get all of them wrong then it's probably you're adding a minute two minutes absolutely well certain ones are way more than others yes absolutely yeah this particular dialogue choice will actually matter in like three hours or something so no it's time for a dance yep yeah we're i mean we're being introduced to another character here but we're gonna gloss over that i think we've got plenty time for donations if there's anything yes indeed before we do that however a quick question for you uh how long do we have before we need to close the reno and angelo naming incentives maybe about 30 minutes 20 minutes 2013 not sure actually yeah 20 minutes yeah okay fantastic well i'll give you a quick update on those first just so we can have a little look at that we currently have the name for naming angelo is cat at 115.89 with scallion in second place on ninety dollars and we have renault is currently called squall at a hundred and twenty dollars with aiko in second at fifty five dollars and we have received fifteen dollars from zim [ __ ] love the run love the game love the reason thanks to all for the event thank you very much indeed for your generous donation having renault be named school is definitely not going to confuse any of us during our menus later on we actually mentioned this earlier and it's actually better that alton is doing the menu blindfolded so it won't confuse him he won't see the incorrect names [Music] this is the first time we actually hear the uh the melody of eyes on me which is the title track of the title track that's the main theme of the game the ongoing theme yeah it comes up a few times in different formats but this is the wall's version we'll hear it again very shortly played in the piano bar i mean there's probably six or seven different arrangements of the same melody throughout the game not particularly uh well disguised the question is now coming to uh tell us to he's giving us uh her cryptic final order to uh go and meet her in some secret location somewhere in the garden it doesn't sound suspicious at all just on the uh if faith the motif of that song i think i was listening to there's an ffff podcast that goes to all the final fantasy games well they're in progress um there's a kind of a book club analysis of them i think they mentioned that the tifa theme from final fantasy 7 is actually like used as the bass line for ice on me there's some similar melodies in it there you go backsphere yeah mainly they did that because they spent ages trying to make popular songs on the tifa piano in the vineyard they just started playing everything they could also gonna have to uh we're going through the the training center in the garden to uh actually go and talk to questions so for what is essentially a just a piece of story within the game there is actually step count active for for a few screens and there are actually some of the more difficult screens and to get the movement right while step count is active and it's where a lot of neural runners will actually like lose their steps um when they're when they're doing runs for the first time um the hallway is difficult too yeah it is um so yeah well alton is going to perform the actual the encounter script that we mentioned earlier i'm going to try to at least yeah yeah if it's i'm going to blame you but it's probably my fault for all the botching and buffering i was doing um when i was testing this and did the safety saves and um it seemed to work but we'll see i have faith fingers crossed here we go so he's gonna do a buffer while holding left a buffer while holding up left buffer while holding left and then run all the way left so here's one buffer two buffers another one then he's going to run all the way left to bank and hold up left click box hold up and then hold up right to leave the screen and if that works we will get no encounter here perfect i'll be fine and what that means so basically we've we've worked out that very very specific movement and that very very specific amount of of steps you know to within fractions of steps between each actual first step you can hear um has been pretty much exactly precise from the start of the game until now so that as soon as that screen transition hit the exact moment that the that he left the screen was the moment where he would have got an encounter uh now that's happened the game thinks he has got the encounter but it didn't actually happen yeah it's very important that we get the correct amount of encounters and that'll occur again in a later section of the run where we try to skip another encounter by taking walking steps so we need them because we will be doing encounters that we want to do later on in the star menu when we got some free time to learn some abilities and so it was actually important in that skip that the game still believes we got the encounter so it actually didn't change any routing or made it anyway more difficult here christus is uh unleashing her thoughts unto us squall is completely disinterested he could not care less i actually always found this this scene quite interesting even casually even if you're just mashing to the scene there's so many awkward pauses in the text boxes they just don't appear very often that actually really feels awkward when you're like mashing through it it's really well done scene [Music] i mean like like this for example nothing is happening you just have to wait it feels you can feel the awkwardness of the tension so he's she's actually like uh saying that she's finished with being an instructor she's just back to being a member of scene much like squall and she doesn't say anything about fencing in here does she but later oh well sorry fancying him oh that's much better it's heavily implied spoilers it's heavily implied it is everything but she does it later on in tribal but we won't get there whenever we might yeah [Music] this is the moment i think where school has told her to go and tell school speak to a wall instead of him i might get about the response out of it to be fair he's pretty on the syllabic he looks pretty unresponsive to himself yeah now let's see if i remember how to do the movement here because it is actually trickier to get it correctly done you can actually just hold down left for the first screen here all the way just left down left don't left all the way you don't even need to go okay i thought you did before [Music] as i mentioned this is actually a really awkward screen it's just it's so many directions and the perspective is kind of skewed and there's random log branches that's jutting out but you can't even really see but yeah uh because we had to portion school since he was too low on hp we would be doing the easy stretch which is a bit slower how much slower it depends on rng but at least it's much much easier because i would just be holding three buttons throughout the entire fight basically i actually completely forgot that this was straight i completely forgot what you're saying about the posting earlier yeah i was like oh yeah actually great adb's for the starters yeah so um yeah there's two different strats for this like if if we did have score in uh crystal hp he'd be doing aren't cooking on the actual main the main boss which is granaldo and then we'd be doing uh standard attacks on uh the round those below but it's actually not that much slower to just just do four attacks on the main grenade and then and then kill the rest so uh yeah that's this shout out to uh the japanese runner ping val as well who actually did this by accident and he tweeted about it and i was like that wasn't that slow i'll go and investigate this and i've actually since used the road that's that strat in the new road actually to uh uh in one of the rounds i've had quest is crit on granada and actually it was faster than doing the intended strat so that's cool in the new route i found this quicker to kill the railroads first but it's a bit rng heavy if the uh if you can actually kill them in two tanks i think questis doesn't necessarily want shotgun that's true i think school does oh it's definitely two attacks each of my outputs um they when you start that fight all around those on the bottom three smaller enemies they're in like a defensive mode and they like take half damage and stuff and as soon as granado the main boss dies they come out of that and you can actually easily feed them but they don't necessarily immediately i think if they then attack you then they leave their defensive mode and then they become uh one more text box after this i always forget about this one but i mean if turbo is whatever might have a turbo is then i just forget to turn it off and then i'll walk past that side this is the training center training center training training training center our infirmary is the one that happens to be most actually infirmary i think i do that for the library all the time so zealous here to greet us tells us that we've got a new room because we are now seeds we have an upgrade we're a real boy yeah our own bedrooms yeah and as we are going to sleep i guess it is a great time for some donations again thank you very much indeed we have received ten dollars from kagar good luck on the run great to see the easy card mod run on the big screen thank you for the music and that goes towards naming renault waves and we also have five dollars from poca focus when you said eyes on me i actually heard all eyes on me the tupac song imagine my confused googling thank you very much that goes towards grievous name lil dive and i'll give you a quick update on those if you don't mind absolutely uh angelo is currently still cat at 115 115.89 i love it uh griever is now going to be a little dive at 52 and renault is still squall at 120. please get your donations in if you want to name any of those characters remember everything goes towards save the children thank you so much yeah i think we've about maybe maybe 10 or 15 minutes left before we get a rename we just have one more sequence and more okay we'll be arriving at the train station yet perfect you heard that you hear the chat get your donations in if you want we know his name and angelo's name thank you so here we're on our first mission they come and knocked the door said get up we're going to timber we're going doing a mission straight away after qualifying and having your ball they don't really give you any rest no dylan makes an entrance in style there on his keyboard which is looks like such a sort of fun item that they could have incorporated into the game but that will never be seen again that is all you'll see of that keyboard and it's it's it's always saddening to see it it is here missed opportunity we will be doing some missions later on in the game where it genuinely would have been quite useful we even have a train mission coming up we've done the back to the right exactly we've literally done it the entirety of it we have the hoverboard we have a train let's do it uh do we want to start our extra uh donation center now oh yeah you could do it i guess you could mention that so i mentioned that we were going to um previously before dividing up the run we were thinking about like every hundred every hundred dollars that's donated that we might just like swap control around the fly yeah so it says it's 47 450 now so i guess when it's 550 yeah there's any that come in overall we'll uh we're running off the main i think i see if we can get up to 50k yeah we wanted to get waves through the dollar section because swapping the controller uh in the middle of that might have been a bit i've been hitting this yeah there's one there's one awkward member of this uh not to point at anyone um there's an awkward person here that uses a different control scheme to us a better control scheme a better control scheme so we would have had to um it would be makes a bit more difficult but doesn't matter it's all for charity we're going to do it [Music] see i get those donations in and we'll just uh hot swap the controllers as we go if you heard them chat if we can get a hundred dollars we will uh see an impromptu control as well i hope that is correct yeah it looks good i cannot do that screen though like i cannot bear the train we definitely should have used ward for this uh no we shouldn't i still can't believe a chris it would have been omega meme i still cannot believe you are like teaching new runners to do horse threats it's so cool make them lose time on purpose like it's all slower like slower 90 percent of the time safer 95 i think yeah no no it is cooler though you can't make it leave enough come on it's a brilliant stress so it's back in the new rose i'll tell you yeah so people would have noticed that we did pick up the magical lamp from sid when we talked to him just now um i didn't pick it up right you did yeah back to garden yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah i saw it in the item and you just know it's fine um so we picked up the magical it's called alador in in french and in previous uh routes of this game we would have already in balaam town we would have started that fight and uh if you've seen any psx runs you'd see um usually diablos gets dispatched with uh zell's dual limit break which you know it's it takes a long time uh you know to actually input the things it's quite difficult to actually get things in time does it have about two minutes i actually looked at the timing of it yeah like someone asked over two minutes yeah but uh but then because we're using the ecm route we're actually much much stronger right now than we would be in the usual route without having done that uh version of the x atm fight uh and what that means is that we can rely on much shorter limit breaks that usually won't do as much damage as uh jill would have done and yeah when thinking about who is the best character to actually do this with um none of these you know none of these characters are actually that useful and if only the game had to give us an opportunity to use three different yeah just randomly introduce three other characters into the game where we can actually uh use their impressions without giving any crazy spoilers the party just falls asleep and for some reason wakes up in what they refer to as the dream world yeah and the characters are given names immediately it's in the menu if you look at them so this is laguna dream one uh just pre-facing that it might happen more than once you do a step here yeah yeah with two steps it's up right right yeah and here we go we're going to use the magic lamp get ready to get all your cat jams scratch gems finger please and this is man with the machine gun this is the the jam the game yeah yeah so a lot of people don't know that you can actually fight their boss in the laguna dreams but you can you can use these characters and uh an immediate slow gravitation which is slowest move this would be great if we were using zel but it turns out yeah we can just use either i mean depending on how you how you root it you can't use either wall it's going to go for it um there then break oh my god it always happens okay you just click the button is actually spooky because he can do triple claw afterwards and i grabbed him instantly and i didn't save so i mean oh yeah ah that's okay yeah this is so this used to be a really difficult a really like not necessarily reset heavy but like you could wipe you could easily wipe if if if you're unlucky in this fight in the old dc and the old non-ecm routes but now we are um it's much safer than it used to be so um what we mentioned there about previously i got people to use war to do it and i was grinding it using ward ward has a limit break called titanic or big anchor massive massive anchor in english it's massive not just big it's massive and he just draws like his weapon up into the air and then catches it and jumps down and smashes diablos it's clear it is glory it's a fantastic little break and there's a potential chance five percent or so you know that it could crit and do double damage and just one shot diablos outright and it has happened quite a few times yeah one of my old pbs i had the [ __ ] but i think that's the only time it's ever happened in like significant numbers of attempts a lot of new owners have seen this beginner look i think so we do have a bit of time here now to talk about we haven't um mentioned like if anyone is interested in running this game it's actually it's in a really good place right now especially with the especially for the pc route where there's uh like the cutscene removal mod which we'll be demonstrating shortly uh the piece there's a practice the practice that's almost finished so you can practice the entire game in an hour and a half it's brilliant um and then in terms of guides i obviously have made the ecm route the one we're running right now and in terms of that with help from windows one of the speeder moderators i've made an easy cm route which means that as long as you played this game casually and you kind of know what to do you could literally just play this game and speedrunners and probably get like uh i won't say something you get sub nine yeah yeah it should be very good um so like with being within an hour an hour and a half of world records just blindly running literally reading when it's on the fly while you're doing it people have ran that route down to 7 45 so 15 minutes away from world record so like it's a really solid road with just lots of slightly safer strats so you're like giving up like optimizing routes to just like potion squall or some of that basically just to make sure that you don't die on places where there's a chance you know there might be a 10 chance to die on certain fights making sure that doesn't happen for example they would have fought diablos there in the lobby because there's a safe point yeah yeah small things like that um so that it's a really good place so obviously for speeder.com i think there's a link to the discord final 98 has its own discard hope at the moment as most of the final fantasies do i think some of the yarder ones like one two three four five six are probably four and five are linked together because they're quite similar yeah um was there a good place a really good uh really good run yeah and there's a lot of new runners nowadays like the game is the most active it's been in years for sure so like it's a great moment to start running it if you want to i think the pc version of this game is is particularly a lot more active than uh the psx i think used to be a relatively um competitive random active run but um i think that the problem is that obviously you need to get the hardware for it you need to uh but get the games for it and uh you need to you need the ntsc sort of us versions of those um which you know it kind of does add up in terms of cost um whereas you can buy this for was it talk with them yeah on steam like it's um it's a much more accessible uh game to run as well yeah speaking of consoles i also run the console version so vodka but um try to do a run was it last week or week four at the yeah not too you know he's just uploading so yeah yeah hardware issues is a base of any console runner's life rest in peace my laser of my uh nts cps2 i think yeah the console one is uh just about the world record is eight sixteen there's the smallest lower obviously load times there's slightly different strategies implied as well yeah but ninety percent of the run is the same a couple of things to mention um after doubles uh the end of the fight we just did um some of you may have noticed that during uh the rest of the sequence in the forest we were running through to get to darling city there was a moment when the screen just sort of went black and then came back again for no reason uh this is a pc only sort of glitch that we call the diablos menu glitch which essentially just for some reason after you fought diablos the first time you try and open the menu after that happens it won't open the menu it'll fade to black and then it will just go straight back in we can use that as a menu buffer that screen transition does count as a menu buffer to gain us a little bit of steps but for whatever reason that that's that's the best use of it essentially we use it to gain some free steps but a lot of people will forget that happens try and do the menu that also did just now and then it won't open the menu and then they have to open it again it's kind of a weird glitch that happens and then in that to talk about that menu as well it's what i kind of think of as the day of lost menu because we've just got down blossom then we can do all the things off the back of that so you know we make him start learning something we junction him to the gooner we yeah refine his card uh so we arrangement yeah and did you mention that the 18 seconds are free and i didn't so this is the second of the three uh timed menus that time it's like imagine they're like auto scrollers yeah platforming game like you're gonna have to wait that amount of time anyway for the game to progress the game actually is tied to the background music that julia was playing on the piano so you just have to wait for that song to end so you've got like 18 seconds of free time if you're good with your menu to just do 18 seconds of free menu that's what we do here i didn't know you could go up around the table it might be slower but like that's what i do no it looks faster i just hold left again it like weaves through the tables it's probably optimizing on the floor so i'm gonna give a maybe five minutes is a good estimate maybe five minutes until the cut off for renault's name and for angela's name okay thank you very much five minutes left then on those currently we still have uh in the lead we have uh cat for uh angelo and school for renowa if there's any donation yet there's a bit of time now as well yeah no problem at all would like to remind you that esa summer 2022 is raising money for save the children in ukraine and in conflict zones around the world save the children works to provide mental health support to terrified children and their families support mothers with baby feeding and pregnant mothers with baby arrival kits set up child friendly spaces where children can play and recover from the traumatic experiences they have been through they also help to establish safe passages to get food and other supplies to the most affected areas and they also provide child protection services to ensure children and their families remain together and that separate the children of united safely with their caregivers so all of the money that you're donating seven hundred and forty seven thousand sorry five hundred and sixteen currently remember if we hit four seven five five six i think believe we're going to get a little just swap over the controller so we do have one little donation here we have uh doff donating 60 oh wow i love video games for sure final fantasy 8 is definitely a game good luck runners thank you very much indeed for that generous donation i think it is a game it is thank you very much certainly some people might argue that it's just a mashing simulator you know it's mostly a game it's there's elements of game there's definitely gaming bits in it it became more apparent when the cutscene removal mod was released and like as it was being released and modified and created by cypher tv uh it was getting shorter and shorter and it was becoming more apparent that there was less game here so it started you know coming down to six hours five hours and then finished just four hours so it's like where's the other three and a half hours gone and it is just uh mostly fmvs and some mashing i mean it is still better than f10 because i believe ff10 is like around three hours with the customer remover nowadays oh yeah like what eight hours i think with the yeah so they've got a quite considerable amount i mean at least f8 has more gameplay than plots so that's fine there you go yeah as long as it's over 50 yeah that's thus we qualify they wake up for the dream this will be a recurring team also you don't know how much we're actually going to see about the story but um every time they wake up in a jarring situation they're just going to go you know what we'll do we'll talk about that later and it's the only plot device they have like not worry about the reason that they randomly collapse and uh find out random things and they never really get to it no they just kind of leave it off yeah keeps getting pushed down the road it's like we'll kick that can it's fine and they never address it yeah i mean the blood of this game was like full of holes like that i guess yeah it's perfect i love it but like it really shows like is that the game so it was like stitched together from different parts like in a harry basically because while they were developing a few games yeah at the same time if you just don't think about it too much it still doesn't make any sense i think uh a lot of the xenogear team were pulled off xenogears because that's notoriously famous for having like a second disc that's very strange yeah and kind of very empty um a lot of the team were pulled over top of eighth and then the f of a team were already after working on parasite eve same engine as well so yeah i can it was actually at the original time they had planned to make the game 50 50 squall in laguna but it never happened they didn't quite get around to finish fleshing out the laguna sections of the because there was even in the code i think a world map figure of laguna somewhere for laguna yeah can i quickly chip in yeah we have 121 from gav bar who just says pass that controller and that goes towards renault's name being tifa which i believe if i quickly check puts that now in front uh hang on my system's being a bit slow try that again uh renault's name is right it's not showing up but i'm sure it's that we'll put it ahead by one if my math is correct yeah we've got about one minute left here one minute left okay any last minute snipes go for it the controller has been passed by the way yeah solar is well over here it is in my hands but i guess uh we need to mention that there will be some limitations to when we can switch because of the incentives so omega weapon and blindfold menu of course and also uh because what uses a different control scheme i i don't think we can switch mid-battle honestly we probably can we can but yeah i can't someone just has to be awkward not anyone i mean the we've only got uh how much 18 like yeah we're actually close to like fourteen dollars for something yeah another eight dollars and we're back i'm barely gonna have to pay play this game [Music] yeah this this track is a great cowbell solo try and point it out i keep forgetting what it is but i think we're soon gonna have to close that uh yeah i think now we have to explain so is there anything last minute snipe are we good to go or something yep give us a couple of seconds we'll just check it for you which one do you need first of all first manoa first okay i'll give it one final refresh okay okay and we have with 121 tifa capital t and you've got like 30 seconds for the angelo it's just straight after the renault rename oh there's more i don't think anyone wants to snipe cat out of there though no i think it's flawless and it's quick to type this is a speed run after all let me know when you need the angelo name i think yeah you can cut it off now yeah i think now okay we have it yeah we have it it's going to be 115.89 towards cat capital c and can i just say that between the pair of those we've raised over 550 dollars for safer children so thank you so much indeed for all your generous donations thank you very much everyone the power of memes that is fantastic all right cat it is very appropriate and we get to see a cat cannon if we will get to see a cactus see one cat cannon no cats will be harmed in the making of the cannon but it will still be called cat cannon i am just going to uh change the controls yeah oh that's i don't even know what cancer it is uh right here we go down and then that one we get better at it as people keep donating hopefully we'll get really good feel so much more comfortable so yeah we haven't really thought about what those uh those configurations are so subjectively the more sensible uh configuration which waves and uh olsen uses is uh extra confirm we all use x to confirm but they use circle to cancel which is you know a fairly standard thing in most modern games and triangle to open the menu uh i used triangle to cancel and circle to open the menu because i played this game when i was a wee lad and uh that's what it was that was a default thing so i just learned how to do that and then for any game since then i just feel weird if i don't open them any with a circle yeah for sure answers in the chat what button do you use to open the menu circle so this is a nice explanation of uh the the mission that we're about to undertake they've built a very lovely detailed uh simulation here um beautifully painted trained certain um where we're going to essentially steal uh one particular train carriage uh from uh that contains the president of dilling um so that we can interrogate him uh and try and get them to meet renault's factions demands we'll see whether that works i was just thinking it would actually be a very mean time for someone to donate the swap controllers right in the middle of the train mini game there you go waves okay i don't even know if we got time i actually you know what i don't think i need to fix the button configure because your button config should be the correct ones on screen uh yeah it usually is i mean it'd be hilarious if it's not we'll find out what happens we just might fail the minigame so for another hundred euro you can uh you can watch it even more for us but as far as story goes i believe timber isn't there albeit in occupation occupation and uh renault's group wants to liberate it basically and we are helping them because that's what the contract uh the city signed is but i guess we'll learn about the contractors later after the train uh so someone did say earlier that they love trains and this is going to be their highlight of the day that's me i love my trains also we'll have to pay very close attention during this sequence the only chocobos that we're actually going to see in the whole of the run will be during this train sequence and we'll point them out to you when that happens but it's very very very brief moment of time so any checkerboard fans out there you'll have to keep your eyes very peeled for anyone who played this game casually and was worried about that last screen that i just went through or one guy who's got the solar detector one guy's like looking out the window it's a scam just run over them it doesn't work left i think if you hang around that screen long enough they actually do mention that oh it's not working i didn't move someone told me that uh so yeah it's a scam it's just a little thing to worry people to make the area the section seem more fleshed out i guess but here so we're going to be entering some series of codes the first time around we got into three codes um there's not much stress the second hammer on can be a bit more risky not that anyone would have lost a pb attempt to putting in the wrong chords i don't think that i don't think that's ever happened actually hang my head in shame that pb i had with the wrong train called stood for the longest of times two one two one okay okay guys actually panicked yeah that guy's actually thinking in my head three one three two okay i think we should have enough time to do it yeah yeah you're fine you're fine three four five okay okay we're good we're good as soon as the codes are injured the last one's entered they just stopped walking towards the other way yeah it's like that's enough of that so pay attention squall is looking this way yeah look just between the train carriages you'll be able to see just as they open up on the left two here we go on there you go let them go that's it here you can do a bit of breakdancing with school yeah it's as you do yeah it's honestly super cool that you can move like during those enemies if you keep doing that you might get an extra c payment as well there you go yeah so yeah now we're actually fully functioning members receive will randomly just be given money throughout the run in the most incredible of places you know even if no matter where we are we might not even be on the planet anymore and we still certainly the the balaam garden they are incredible with their directives oh my god yeah i mean having a stable job is very important and i guess we have time for some donations still for the second set of codes thank you very much indeed we have received five dollars from one-eyed deacon who just says good luck final fantasy 8 runners yup thank you very much indeed and i've hacked david 15 uh without a comment that has put that towards grievous name of little dive i believe we've got quite a long way to go before that comes up am i correct yep so you've got a little bit more uh time on that one let me just reset that quickly and let you know how that's getting on because there's a few names in there at the moment uh now also i don't know if i mentioned it but we have met the blindfolded esther uh menu incentive and of course much earlier on we met the defeat a mega weapon incentive so that's twelve hundred dollars to save the children between those two incentives little dive is sitting on 67 for grieva's name so you've got a bit of time for that so thank you again for your generous donations we're probably about two hours away from yeah more or less it should be around maybe four hour mark it's kind of hard to guess because we will be mixing out any percent and uh let's see remover so our guess is basically like for three to four hours it's around there we'll be able to give people notice of 10 minutes somewhere between zero and five hours i think almost done with our train section we generally always get the same uh same pattern with that section there you can input two of the codes you always have to go back up after the second one uh and then you can just go wait and see what the uh what the guards do but pretty much you can always go back down and do the final three afterwards now we're ready to conf oh you're gonna have to switch the uh i was just thinking [Music] [Music] this is the joys of swapping for memes so here we go uh did do the junction to zell oh yeah and then swap zelda and selfies yes yeah yeah and that's what was zelda selfie stuff is cool okay configuration oh yeah okay i see what's going on here i uh think it's wrong do this on the way awesome that's fine it's very easy for us no it's not oh you have to actually change it back yeah let's go down yeah there you go uh no certainly and then sophie's going nope i'll fix it uh if we're on this and then who needs the junction uh no it's nice uh i think we're good to go yep uh it's gonna be let's go let's go uh by swapping our controllers mid run i was not planning on doing this section so it turns out shocker he wasn't the real president but we got to fight this uh counterfeit president i don't understand quite why if they were going to you know have a fake president while they just didn't get a normal body double rather than like a weird whatever whatever this guy i don't know what this is yeah i mean i guess this is like a trap yeah whoever would like would like to try and uh get them the president nice [Music] at least we all use the same uh crusher targeting yeah that would have been like yeah if you just elixir or something so uh yeah this is a fairly straightforward point um because we are so strong we can use one one square attack to uh transition the phase uh the fight from the first second phase the second phase he turns into his true form uh he is an undead monster so in true final fantasy form any healing items will do damage to them and so we just throw another looks here there's no tutorial about that it doesn't tell you it's an undead monster we just we just have that intuition it does tell you much much later there will be another undead boss coming up at some point later in the run and it will tell you the tutorial at that point and that's one disc three when all good tutorials are yeah yeah that's exactly where you put all your tutorials yeah three quarters [Music] i like how both you and vodka are mashing manually just to make sure you get some gameplay in the controller get some use of the ds2 this one doesn't quite have the divot and the miners yeah mine's got a weird smart demolished completely well i got this one not too long ago so i guess i haven't managed to destroy it yet brian i'm trying to try the world record for a few months it'll happen [Music] we're just going to plop down on the floor and have a strategy meeting mm-hmm bill's going to uh school's going to immediately uh interrupt do you think i keep calling him school this is nero you know this is nero he's interrupting tifa's strategy meeting of course we need to get in the in the zone yeah not in the water i'm kind of glad to okay i have to say characters are called zone and watts so yeah we need to get in the zone not the watts i'm kind of glad that uh bruno isn't named school because i i will have messed up a venue i think yeah muscle memory carries yesterday so that's going through what the contract was for the mission um and it is basically how bruno anthony's happy excuse me yeah until the independence of timber and she is happy with the result basically means forever yeah as olson uh mentioned earlier on we uh timber is currently under gaube occupation which means that for the time being while we're uh walking around timber step count is active um because there are uh soldiers wondering about that uh we can get in into encounters with um so we have to make sure that we do a few uh walking steps here to make sure we stay on step count are we doing the running walking up there's 35 controllers around your hands controllers in your hands i think i've never practiced doing the running and i just did it on the run it worked quite fine yeah yeah does it run forward as long as you get the encounter you're going to get as long as we get the encounter i can hold directly right yeah i'll do the run for walk three and if not i'll just walk five make sure you can hear the steps the first one i always find a bit tricky to actually yeah oh it's getting closer to a controller swap oh god oh no yeah i would do for free here i don't want to risk understanding but you're also doing a blindfolded lesson oh yeah that's fine i think that's right i think it's let's right some buffer afterwards yeah we're just way behind i didn't get any fade after the thing because it's caught on the wall and we're going to lose another fade here because we got the encounter so closely into the screen so i will do one buffer here i'll probably do one more chance after because if you want to just be safe yeah i think yes we're doing it there just because it wasn't moving at all now what i like to do in this fight i guess it's also doing that is hold x and pray that e5 doesn't get attacked oh yeah like a two and three chance yeah one of the junction two of the junction character as soon as you start holding it she will have the first place knows the game knows so the only person there who cannot one shot one of these enemies is tifa the game starts to realize oh you're doing a speed run are you i'll see what i can do about that game knows so we got a sh card there with the buell card one of the enemies we've seen we didn't actually see it in the fire camera maybe previous roads you would have seen a view um like a fan it's a living fence yeah we got to carry one of those the fan with the face um unless you're fluent in french obviously not sure what's going on here there's a guy here on the floor drunk guy he's after losing his card so we offer him his card back and he goes oh okay here's an account in exchange of it but you also get to keep scared yeah so you have your net two cards and the card he gives you an exchange is way better yeah so it gives a tomboy card which is vital to the run because we refine that for ammo which we used on the last boss there you go we got the cat rng we got the meow that's because we named angelo cat that i think that meow wouldn't be there otherwise maybe the new stream was released so there's a bit of a text happening for the next minute or two so if there's any donations indeed we have some donations here we have 58 dollars from our own robo sparkle who was host previous did you know that they're only called baguettes if they come from the baguette region of france otherwise they're just fizzy bread rolls good luck to the final fantasy 8 runners in the fight against goat and that goes towards grievous name being little dry little dive and we have another ten dollars with a question from zelidan can we buy pet pals volume three can we um i guess we could leaving thank you very much indeed for those generous donations uh so there is a completely yolo strat you can do for uh for the last section of the game well actually it would save you time if you get lucky enough um by using one of vanilla's limit breaks invincible moon which makes the party invincible so you don't need to unlock something else yeah um but it's very original and we need to buy that book to get a treatment break so that's what that's uh hinting towards we are just a few dollars off a controller swap so if anyone wants to uh i would say that if the controller is in my hands at the point when uh we need to go past that shop then we can't buy it because i don't know where it is yeah me neither okay hold off on the donation one of us knows where this is this is the train station right the left or whatever yeah i know where this is okay uh if it's 99 it's not in the game uh i guess i should mention that i will be doing the blindfolded menu from a loaded save that's specially prepared so that i know where the items are because while the drops are around them we can also get the pencils apparently and that'll mess up the menus i don't mess up the menu so that's why i cannot just like do the money on the fly and i will be loading essay for that or you could just read pet pal street during it that's this you can you can play it again in esther with the let the blindfold on and then set it down i don't think we get to walk enough with it no we can edit the pre-save and make sure that we have we have it learned so this is a cypher tv i mean cipher um gate crashing this presidential announcement to uh i don't really know what his plan is at this point i'm not sure either he's just being being a rebel he i think he wants to help renault chiefer so he decided to go and just kind of do the mission himself and attack the president or something i think that was the gist and then quizzes is kind of there she went to stop him how does she know that he's there i guess he wasn't even sent to timber on the mission time compression tank that's it's time compression i started early with the plot holes yep should have called this time compression percent because by the time we actually we're actually kind of this is yeah uh can we switch the category name right now to time compression percent i think that'd be great yeah if tech could do that instead of partial cutscenes just time compression percent if we do it in a marathon then that means it's got to be then it's like it's the official category like the mods of the leaderboard have to take that to be a real category no premium below let's put on that in there [Laughter] and compression is spot with the k basically oh yeah you know why that is why she doesn't use um i thought because she's like speaking kind of like german english or something like that i'm not sure it's because um in the future she's banned the letter c because it sounds too much like seed no it's not allowed in the future [Music] if you donate 200 we can get rid of butter we can just remove him it's okay you can just bring him back for the omega weapon incentive that's all then he wouldn't be able to hear any more of my facts facts are dead jokes they're mixed together at the moment yep so story wise i believe during the previous scene as it kind of lets us sleep that we are from the garden that we are seed and the president is like oh that's good to know uh and now we are in danger i guess and yes the garden the whole garden is in danger i guess as well now the garbage you knows and that we are uh trying to do something here it's impossible to play this game and not homophobic yeah it's actually impossible i'm really struggling it's only because you're doing it i'm like okay i don't have to yeah like the run being super long isn't that nice but on the other hand at least you get to listen to this soundtrack for such a long time that's really really nice and with the turbulent sort of being allowed in the run as well it kind of means that i think one of the one of the general issues with a lot of long runs is there's no like don't you can't go for a bathroom break yeah you know if you yeah perfect that's why also needs the blindfolds imagine you're not here nothing to do with the menu why am i using analogue so they decided to go and take refuge in the timber the fact renault was factions headquarters tifa's sorry that's not going to stick [Music] i'm trying so hard not to just like boom this the bass lines are also good as well that's the thing too good wait till we get to uh this yeah let me i was on this screen for some reason [Music] we're just kind of hiding out in this person's this friendly uh ladies kitchen in a person's house brendan's gonna get angry at us for some reason we're gonna follow it off in a traditional nero way whatever whatever i think the timber track itself is one of the more sort of underrated tracks of the game that's very good like the instrumentation and the the bass lines and stuff that's very very groovy we do get like was it i think it's two and a half minutes of uninterrupted man with the machine gun coming up very shortly yeah oh yeah oh yeah get your jammie modes ready [Music] uh so according to the guidelines if i remember correctly when i see the members are in danger they are supposed to like find the nearest garden basically so we are trying to go out to the galapagos right now and find help there basically i think they're currently it's hard to know what exactly what they're saying because it is in french and i i don't think it's been quite a long time actually read this text in english but uh i think they're discussing what the fate of sniper might be after he tried to get down the president and then got taken away by the sorceress yeah he's probably in trouble in some serious trouble [Music] we'll be um yeah traveling to the nearest garden as olson said and uh will be it'll be suggested that you know we can there's there's a train station in timber there's you know we can then take the train to a nearby uh forest near down by the garden and we can walk through to get there yeah we're gonna get the train tickets from ward i guess or the other guy i don't remember yes yeah it wasn't working no not ward yeah we'll get the train tickets from lagoona and then yeah so this is this is his own sort of in disguise uh as an old man he's bought a load of train tickets he's gonna give them to us so we can board the train he's a regular james bond this one yeah and he's a you know very very selflessly given that one training ticket that he meant for himself um and he's going to give that to questus instead what we're then going to do with that is completely throw it in his face by not taking the train um because it takes ages yeah it turns out it's just faster just to run just walk all the way to the garden is so much so much quicker yeah so you can just kind of turn around in this screen and actually leave timber the guards at the gate will be quite uh insistent are you sure you don't want to go and get the train like you really should go and get the train um yeah make sure [Music] okay and off we go yeah leave timber by zoom that guard right there that's just standing around and uh that's that's what's the other guy yeah he's pretending to be a g soldier um you don't actually have to talk to him i'm gonna try to do the safe movement safe okay it's like we've got no warm-up at all yeah it's very very very bad if we if we can maintain that for the whole run that would be insane so this so yeah you spawned on a like on a road i can't do the same movement also like it's actually really interesting it's actually it looks like i just kind of oh i just walked in a circle yeah it's actually really difficult to get that accurately yeah and so you kind of spawned on a road um and obviously the roads in this game don't have uh you can't get encounters on them so you can just sort of cut across the grass to get onto there which is definitely quicker or you can just walk around the road to ensure you don't get an encounter i think uh is it what making you save here just goes around the world uh we haven't made one for a while as well so not that we plan on doing anything with the save file right before the lagoon dream 2 forest you know but um [Laughter] that's a meme for the community there is actually uh the only sequence break that's been found in the entire run is actually that forest you can actually perfectly frame then you buffer straight to the first and you can skip the entire you're gonna dream two seconds so you have to do sort of what 70 or something forty forty forty uh there's nowhere near as far as i thought oh it's actually very manageable yeah yeah that way turbo allowed is actually it's reasonably manageable uh no one just has done it yet i think is there time for a donation yeah sure okay thank you very much we've received another five dollars from one eye deacon who just says forgot to select the bid and they put that towards grand theft auto 5 ending choice of killing michael and that is a good reminder for everybody please if you do wish to donate remember all your donations go to would save the children please remember to choose the bid war or incentive that you wish to put your donation towards on the right hand side of the donation page thank you very much indeed i think we had this down as one of our points to where we're actually going to swap so we have our own swaps as well as the um the ones that we're going to do on the fly as well so here's one of the particular moments that we'd pencil in to swap so we walked into the forest trying to go to go by the garden this is now our second instance of uh the laguna dream um yeah they're kind of used to it by now they kind of were you know they kind of oh oh this this again this again yeah we'll talk about it later yeah yeah they wake up again and go ah i don't know where [Music] so quick menu here to put both characters into critical hp and just swap the magic junctions around so that they are guaranteed both to kill the enemies in one hit and by both i mean one of these characters will not survive the next the next fight the ward much like uh renault artifa whatever you want to say in the run has a really slow attack animation and it's just better off to just remove him entirely from the thing it actually also helps with um because the characters now are actually just like their stats and levels and stuff are just given to them from the main character's party levels nice so by killing very good ward here that character will get no experience i think it's zell right now are the crystals it's christmas though i can't remember so that first fight is another guaranteed back attack which can uh be a bit interesting because when you when you're in back attack uh any the first the first bit of damage that gets done against you um is double uh the actual damage um so it's quite annoying if you start that fight um and the soldier attacks ward because you can only actually one shot ward to kill him in that first fight if he is in back attack as soon as he's attacked by the soldier he turns around so uh yeah if he gets attacked by the soldier which is just like a one in three chance but if he gets his atv then um yeah you could have to do a an extra extra tackle more to make sure he's dead it's a lot of foreshadowing here that they're entering this building this sections area um you can see it's like a crystal building so weird yeah crystal it's actually one of the places where like you can do some stuff here that will actually be relevant in disc three if you wanted to no it's gonna be the option just to get like extra items and stuff so we take a few walking steps here we didn't quite mention the walking steps to avoid encounters but it's very similar to what ff7 does basically there's a danger value that increases as you move every running step increases by five every walking step increases by two and the encounters are actually like tied to a step id so basically what we're doing is we're just trying to duck the danger value under that particular id and if we skip that id then the next values could be higher and we basically skip an encounter that would have occurred otherwise you can kind of think of it as like imagine you know you're sort of running through a scary corridor with lots of monsters and your footsteps are loud when you're running and you're alerting increasing your danger by alerting the monsters around you to to your presence and if there's an area with a high concentration then you know if you're alerting them too much and you're being too loud then they're going to attack you if you walk a few steps quiet and down they might not notice you're there anyway now the g first i thought the other day bravo i preferred solves one about the bucket yes they're bucket fitting with water yeah it's slowly filling water so like it is always increasing it's just that you're not letting it it's going to increase less until fixed encounters yeah so here we go get your cat or cat jamming so you're right anything jams any sort of jam or preserve two and a half minutes of banger yeah and this part of the run is actually full rng because i just hold three buttons press down and pray that like basically and you can lose so much time here if the enemies get a lot of clearance but there's like nothing you can do about it so we do a little bit of prioritization here of uh some of these uh soldiers are elite soldiers and they can cast blizzara which is a horrendously long animation so you want to kill them first but then you have to pay attention because if one of them actually does their turn first before you get any atp anyway then you want to switch back to prioritizing the other soldier to uh because they're the most likely to actually get their turn off first before you do your attack [Music] and during these fights we've just learned the time magic we find from diablos as well so uh there will be a menu not too long after the end of the sequence where we'll be uh utilizing that and that's where that's where our strength gets really ridiculous it's tripled almost almost you could say it's been tripled i'm disappointed with myself just after you were bracing me earlier there's also some ffa community fan lyrics for this song as well when do we get this song again not for quite some time do we [Music] i just missed the point where we could have done it since the song is over later what's like the parties consideration for what just happened to them i'll kick the can down the road we'll worry about that later it started this too i guess oh yeah briefly uh probably not enough oh yeah let's see what we got so exhausted from all the fights uh the googler and co have found a cliff and some boats and some water and they think they're saved so naturally i mean that is a high cliff yeah this is one of the better comical moments casually it's actually really funny um so laguna surviving it and ward actually got so injured here he uses his voice he's actually unable to speak the rest of the game and then as soon as he throws the book goes off in english he goes oh my god you guys are brave that's very happy despite the fact he just pushed them off that was not of their own volition so he tries to just crawl down gently himself and falls off and it's very good if we don't get an encounter here something is going on no i'm all i i am behind yeah and then another one after the garden i mean that would be fair like that would be like average maybe even better than average still if we get two more encounters it's about the only randomness factor outside of battles that we really can't control whatsoever yet there's no rhyme or reason to why we get encounters on the world map or when what the hell is that literally the only world mapping council we've got up in our three fisheries fights which we have to get yeah if we don't get one on the way to the there's genuinely something fishy going i usually have like four by now so i mean absolutely it's insane wow and i wasn't even that clean during the movement outside timber like i went down the grass tiny bit as well i mean there's one more i guess one more let's wait for that yeah so this is the galvanian garden they're just another faction um they're a little more up market it's a better looking garden said at least i also noticed it appears we're one dollar away from a controller switch oh yeah it's on the 56 we got and we can definitely go for another donation here oh yeah we have got some time here now okay we have an interesting one here on and it is it is going to be voluntary so hopefully if you fancy it uh jamie tf 25 to save the children sing eyes on me or be riot so i'm not quite sure what your singing voice is like maybe we'll do that at the end i don't know or who writes yeah i want to know who's the writer but uh thank you very much need anyway for your incredibly generous donation thank you emmy thank you i mean are we supposed to sing now or like when it's not even playing just over whatever it is it's entirely up to you we'll give it a whirl i'm sure there'll be some down time soon yeah i mean i'm not saying if you want to do it then go for it [Music] so hear the party's talking about what has happened cipher again because they're actually hearing that cypher has potentially been executed and now they're all upset it turned out that tifa had like summer romance with cypher that is why he came along to try and help him with timber but she's also upset even though she wasn't a part of the seed team yeah and here we need to talk to the party members in a specific order basically to trigger the blood i guess to move forward and school has sort of a minor meltdown at this point he's thinking about how everyone's thinking of cipher after his death and he doesn't want people to think about him that way after after he dies and so he just shouts at everyone yeah he gets pretty upset there we go is internal monologue here we just gotta move there's actually like a triangle that is like an area you need to interact with an invisible one and it's enough walking and leave some poems off i hate to interrupt um we were on seven five five we're on 905. we're way over oh how many times does that swap that's that's two swaps i think okay yeah you should change the config actually uh because because i do a different one to you so make sure that there we go okay and then is it how many times are stopping we go again no that's it that's it it's you now yeah let me know we've got a second for two big couple of donations just go for it yep okay we have this this name uh fifty dollars from time compressed laughing to us can we get when we put some more money in to name griever after the man the myth the legend and yes i really appreciate this one it's fifty dollars to making grievous name matako unfortunately taco wasn't able to manage so it'd be absolutely fantastic to to honor my taco but i don't know how he feels about being weaver but hey and uh michael t a hundred dollars here for the fun fancy eight-speed run let's go thank you very much indeed for your very generous donations there very much everyone thank you i'm loving these donations so far because uh so far i haven't had to do anything i mean to be fair it wouldn't have been your turn anyway so like you've got to play more than you should have yeah that's true yeah you're not wrong [Laughter] i don't like christmas just ignore that yeah apparently so on that screen she doesn't actually turn up uh in that screen there to talk to her to progress the story until um the uh until there's a text box on the previous screen to sort of say there's an announcement to say you need to go out the front of the garden to to find out what your next order is um and if you just take the optimal path toward towards the exit you'll actually accept the screen too early you can do like two or three like steps very quick like taps with the walking button just to delay yourself enough but barely to actually um uh make sure the question is there [Music] and we're finally going to be introduced to our sixth and final party member right now this fella is gonna have a sore back from carrying the whole parody the whole run yeah he will be the mvp if you pay close attention to this fmv it's kind of scuffed he turns around twice to face us it's a bit of a weird one as we'll see soon with the uh parade float they weren't very good with the directions of things in this game no yeah it's the same as when we're in when we're in the garden talking to questus about her feelings um you're you're always running away from the garden when you're going to that secret area and then you get to the secret area and the garden is directly in front of you so he's lying on the ground he is [Music] he gets up back to you see now he's like he's facing towards the footpath yeah yeah yeah and now turns back doors look at the grass and then slightly scuffed yeah this is evan he shoots guns i'm almost tempted to menu buffer to the train so that we get zero encounters and the way you can do the mini buffers even work on the mobile map it does it doesn't does it and you can actually skip encounters with it uh using the same tactic as like you skipped but i know yeah so that actually like progresses the step or map danger value and you can actually just skip it um you can see i might do one just for look and like assume that we're going to skip the encounter i'm waiting for surely we can't it's not it's never going to happen i'll donate 50 bucks myself it's impossible if it suggests a party here he puts the girls on his team uh we tell him not to do that this video is the same in my round why am i doing this that's my own fault okay we're going to hear what it's about to run just yeah let's do it here we go [Music] i mean that is one gunners i'm not sure i've ever seen a one encounter yeah oh we're actually going to save time on uh three it's resafe here yeah because this menu is yeah if you if you don't do this menu right um and i have not done this menu in quite some time i believe in you do you i believe in you firmly i wrote it many months ago um let's see i'm first yeah yeah yeah uh these three yep there's three and perfect that's it that's all that's good and then there's so we're making what's called doesn't need to learn anything else so we're making it this to um uh startling encounter half uh what we did earlier on is we refined uh the samantha soles that we had previously refined from the quistis card we have three of them each of them gives us 60 triples so we refine them onto three individual characters but one way you can kind of mess up the root a little bit is if you accidentally refine more than one of those onto one character because there's a limit of 100 magic that you can have on any one character so you can only have 100 of the triples that it refines into and because it gives 60 per item if you do two of them it actually only gives you 100 and you've wasted 20 of those triples so you have to do three on three individual people and then you split them up so so we've now given um a squall 100 triples and oven it's got 80 of them yeah and you could see like uh scroll strength go up there from like 68 to 158 is just insane damage briefly so you want someone to explain it and i'll focus accountable okay yeah so so we'll be entering a little corridor here with uh sophie and they'll be talking and applying by the right hand side you'll be able to see some telephone poles um as as the train goes past them so we'll be counting these here 311 yeah three two one three eleven three two one guaranteed yeah yeah that's a zero i oh that's zero i think that's a three eleven three zero incomplete no 90 something maybe i don't know actually no we're way off uh yeah this is uh i don't think i recognize this one uh but yeah basically instead of going all the way uh to the tomb of the unknown king is it yeah uh to find the code to the carolina mentioned and simply guess the code uh by tracking the rng here in the train because the rmg will not change from here until when we arrive at the mansion it's um something some french speedrunners found years ago they were just watching the npcs and on their way to to the to the mansion to see if there was anything consistent was changing and they managed to find out like that certain other things like i guess they went back further so they could see that there was these poles outside the window and every time the poles go by the rng actually changes so they're ready to find out whereabouts of the rng they were and then reverse engineer what the caraway code would be yeah so we saw like sequences of poles go through so there was like one two three and then there was a gap and there was one two three all the way to 11 then there was a gap and so we sort of count the numbers in each of those sequences and that's what tells us exactly what the code is actually going to be so we put it into a program it basically looks it up in a spreadsheet and yeah we can we can tell from that what's tricky about it is one of the one of the sequences we got there you can have a sequence that consists of zero poles so there's a little gap in between uh each sequence but if you basically get a gap that's two gaps worth of time then uh that that means there's a zero there and it's pretty hard to spot but basically if you are looking at it and you're going oh it definitely should have been pulled by that oh we've got a we've got the controller switch oh olsen what's it called why don't we make it eight what i've never seen that one i've never seen that either you're on subscript 410 that's quite high [Laughter] quite a bit beyond everything so yeah generally um sort of the sort of a general rng value throughout the whole run but kind of increased by various things like being on screens with safe points increases it and have the length of time that you're on and there's there's loads of different things that affects that and um but you know the the top level runners are consistent enough in the way that they uh they play the game and they're moving through screens but generally we recognize the patterns that we see because we're always in in a pretty short range or short window because your movement is consistent um yeah that covers a lot of it exactly yeah so but we're fairly uh above that so this isn't one we recognize we have some time here as well there's a donation to read we um just talk about what we're planning to do here in uh delling for maybe five minutes oh perfect thank you very much indeed well i just wanted to point out we have just raised 48 000 for saved children and a couple of donations have taken us over that mark there we have kiosk with 50 let's give grieva the honor to be named after matako so that goes towards grievous name and i do want to go into that it's hotting up nicely here we've got lil dive at 125. at 120 dollars and the taco on a hundred dollars you still have a little bit of time on that one so that would be absolutely fantastic get destinations in and we have received 75 from micro last final fantasy run of the event means it's time to donate i have no idea what this incentive is but it sounds funny and that's going towards the crash reminder of a mutant 20 two players per controller incentive which does indeed sound absolutely fantastic so thank you very much indeed for all your generous donations please keep them coming in uh are we still doing controller swapping yeah we've just swapped perfect okay we're about 11 away from another one brilliant yeah keep those nations in get those runners swapping the controller thank you very much indeed i would i would quite like if there was another donation so i can actually play the game at some point i hope someone donates 100 111 to skip bad cap so here what we're doing is uh the caraway what's his name general general general yeah major characters for some reason but mister mr caroline uh who turns out to be have been reno's father chief and they are planning now to do an assassination attempt on the sorceress and he decides to explain this entire plan while walking around in front of the sources outside the front lawn that's going on we're going to go here and then here and then here and you see that window where the sorceress is right now we're going to go there it's a bit a bit of a giveaway but she doesn't seem to notice well we believe that um you never know wherever i might make the shot today yeah could happen i believe in him as that city running around exactly look like just running around outside to show us where the float is going to go this is quite a fun place uh if we do have the um cutscene remover skip on that he's absolutely he's filming around the place through yeah we're definitely going to talk about some of the more comedic bits within the uh cutscene remover as it comes up once we actually start applying it then you'll you'll notice what it's interesting interesting place it becomes and the dirt is gone oh i get to do selfie skip nice i mean unless it's another gem [Music] so i guess while we're walking back into the uh into caraway's mansion there'll be a little bit more dialogue but we can there's a couple of pieces of movement tech here that kind of happen pretty quickly one after the other so after they finish this conversation here um you'll be sort of walking out uh towards where you're going to be stationed uh you know the council's going to be stationed for to prepare for the mission it's actually but you know school and irving they're sort of in a little party together and they're they're walking away from uh caraway's mansion you actually go back into the mansion straight away and then walk back out again they start running um and so that's what we do kind of walk in and then walk out again and then and it's faster than just walking all the way to the end screen that immediately follows that um you can see the rest of the characters selfie and chris and zell they're walking across the road trying to get through a little archway and then you as school or as nero uh you know also want to go through the same way um if you don't quite get there in time and you're there but behind selfie you've got to wait for her to to exit the screen before you can exit the screen sort of very embarrassing not actually very possibly trying to like push push your way faster if you can get sort of slipping is just in front of her then it's you know it saves a couple of seconds so that's what we call the selfie skip there aren't a huge amount of skips in this game so we'll take anything we can get and call it a scale of them yeah it's literally an optimization of a screen that saves a second or two but anyway it's a selfie skip and just before that there's another small optimization so when you leave this room um squall and irvine i just started to do that i just did that did you yeah i just talked about that we could do it again maybe your movie better amazing yeah sorry i thought you were just talking about service i i did the both i'm very efficient also look if i fail at this because i cannot see the screen clearly from here yeah yeah do you want to sit here i need that excuse i need something we can turn the monitor towards you so here goes this optimization in and out of the room as bloodcap didn't mention maybe i did i don't know if i could do that at this start like over explaining the skip yeah all right i think so maybe i just i did and then out and then on this screen here they're running previously they would have been walking all the way to the end texas a while and then this is the selfie stick nailed it yeah perfect so yeah it saves like two seconds across across a seven and a half hour run when you see it oh yeah that's a draw point yeah and that's what you get for yourself no i don't need to hear about it how many you can't i don't think this hold up it should be okay um i was gonna say there yeah it actually looks easier like when you see someone perform you're like okay there's run across the road yeah but actually if you try to do it or something and it's really it's even though it's only two seconds if you don't get it it's really frustrating because you you're just constantly reminded of it by the fact that school is like trying to get past and bonking on the back of selfie it's kind of nice [Music] talking of uh skips i mean that's that's the huge skip the selfie skip but um people that are familiar with the final fantasy 8 run uh and seen in previous marathons or whatever they might have expected to see another skip earlier on which was the renault yes um so when when we at the point that we renamed renault and angelo that's not normally in a psx run at all because you're actually able to skip that entire dialogue um we're not able to do that on pc and the reason for that is because uh on psx the analog stick actually oh it's my turn so i'll have to finish explaining this while i'm actually doing something um so the reason for that is because the analog stick actually does move into three actually has 360 movement on pc we literally have eight directions so it works as a d-pad yeah just you need to move so there you go pc is better for raising money for charity yeah especially if you swap controllers every hundred dollars do you have time to get those in quickly before the next bit yeah go for it okay uh 8.89 from t89 here's 8.89 cents for the bobcat skip unfortunately that skip appears to have been uh unsuccessful at the moment that's not what i wanted and then 75 for first time watch a first time donator gotta move that controller around now and we have indeed the 8.89 went towards grievous name matako 75 towards grievous name goat thank you very much indeed how i feel sorry for the people that are having to change who's uh who's actually currently running it yeah we must give a round of applause to tech because it's really hard for them and they're doing a great job of swapping out who's running and what's going on well done dudes so the best security system i've ever seen has just been implemented where you lock the door but you leave it open for several seconds before you lock it so that someone else can run out and someone else can run in accidentally uh or actually finish this vlog so i have no idea how deep i didn't run into them like on the corridor oh yeah like maybe there was a time skip between there i don't know so this takes like 30 seconds i think and just hold x and this is one of the places where i very very much appreciate the csr mode because it just speeds up all of the animations here but we don't need to watch tifa slowly climb the boxes for 30 seconds and she basically has like a magic item i guess that is supposed to suppress magic from the sorceress or something and she has a great plan of like going to talk with sorceress and like giving her necklace as a gift or something that doesn't sound like a great plan but i mean not really and in the first of many times we're going to have to try and rescue renova ortiva i think tifa would have done better here yeah bowman fall field just punch her you know but yeah actually this does not work out so well for renault [Music] i'm also a little bit scared by how long that screen transition is as well that's always really long when i think of like soft locked or something her bracelet in her hand yeah she's planning to give this bracelet through there let's suppress her powers uh no more such look oh there you i hope you go your uh your time i i had i had a grand time climbing those boxes so much so that you didn't even get time to change the button can't figure out no yeah you got article give it back and if there is a donation to read because of that we have time we've got a little fmv oh i need to close that box yes indeed give me a second i think we've got something here uh we've got 25 from johnny bean who says ff8 hype hopefully hype hopefully we can leave manoa in space today please and that goes towards 25 towards grievous name being matako thank you so much indeed thank you thanks jen yeah holy depends on whether we want to finish the run or not really yeah well we could slide in practice percent and just ignore completely get rid of it yeah and like we never have to see renault again but no [Music] we'll think about it i think it's the official one so for those not really sure about what we mean by partial cutscene skips as well as that we're planning on two of the three of the slow sections of the run um one being prison one being travia and the third being space they're the three times we're planning on just slotting in um the cutscene remover mod and you can do it on the fly just luckily you just drag and drop the uh coils in and out and it should just remove all the real text heavy downtime on the run because as they mentioned uh matako was supposed to have this slot for final fantasy 7 and final fantasy seven is about an hour or so shorter than the estimate we had for eight so we had to like squeeze it a little bit so that luckily yeah just time compressive yeah we've compressed the time yeah we're quite lucky we have this available this tool to be able to have the versatility i'm not sure what we really would have done otherwise no make it fit and shout out to swansea and cairo who ran for f5 and ff13 yesterday on the second stream where we should have been for financials everyone chipping in to get the ball rolling keep things moving yeah it's almost there oh my there another thing now no but do we need another seven dollars yeah don't worry i'm keeping a very eagle aisle keep the donations coming the bad cap skip at least we know you have to do the omega weapon because it's met yep none of us no the other ones practiced it so you have to do this i think that'd be funny though wouldn't it if you just just go through it oh yeah the president is dead now oh yeah yeah lot don't worry about that later yeah i think this is this is the point in the game when i just don't think about plot at all i'm just like no just just get to the next objective this is normally where i make a cup of coffee yeah i guess we need this so the second time that we're going to do the encounter skips that we found um is sewer section coming up in i guess it's not for another quite some time but it gets there um so yeah so unlike the first one we did in the training center um this one is not 100 guaranteed it's like a two-thirds chance that it'll work i'm pretty sure we are too far behind to even like attempt it honestly you can do it from the you can do it from the screen before yeah it's actually i mean i know it kind of like it never works for me but i guess it's my fault for being bad at the game i think it's your fault for just having bad luck yeah yeah you might probably just you're hitting that one in three every time every time yeah yeah screen that annoys me more often than not i bonkers yeah like 180 turns in this game yeah terrible yeah smooth clean but it's screens like this that will enhance the uh the general rng that might have affected the codes before because it's just like a movement screen that has a save point on it for some reason that's where whenever there's a save on the screen the rng is increasing like every half second yeah but yeah the reason it's um like there's like a one in three chance that this future even if we do everything perfectly the future might not necessarily work is because oh yeah oh oh because of the oh is that where that's from yep oh cool we got the uh so the only way with this party to freeze adb is to use chris's limit break and we just kind of show it's nice normally we have to open the uh magic or the item menu and um okay so there is actually a set of this even though it's like way behind what we normally would be at but there is actually i'm pretty sure we had one for i think one works i don't think step count is active on that screen there you can't get an encounter at that screen oh is it the whole of that screen is not yeah i think so it's been quite some time since i've made this normally not so early we get the honor but i think i have faith in my uh voting that it works so it'll be fine but yeah so basically the idea is that um for this this uh only works if there's like 100 something yeah yeah yeah oh basically yeah well so that's gone to you yeah and then that was it me yeah okay wow yeah we need one input one input there we go that's the one nice and all right that doesn't count thank you thank you um so yeah uh there's a there's a back end um uh value called the step fraction so it's like every you know tiny movement of squalls it council step fraction um and if it is i believe it is uh if it's either two or four at the point that we start the sewers or yeah um then this will work and if it's six then it won't so there's nothing really we can do to control whether it flows either of those two things yeah there's too much you would have to be able to control all the movement exactly from the training center until now and it's just too hard school can take part in the dancing here just have a little mm-hmm are we going for the box give uh of course let's go swag didn't work out quite so well he still ran to the right i'm gonna blame this controller at least so here is another old open x to climb all these boxes just for content and while we are climbing we can definitely go for a few donations here yeah oh yes we've got plenty coming in just now fifty dollars from username meals i barely know anything about final fantasy eight there's a guy named squall with a scar and he has a sword gun and maybe there's an evil clown thank you very much indeed for that one uh blood dive tonight's 25 go squat squab nevo thank you very much uh nick levesque 20 says leave a dm alone and 110 from anonymous you're welcome bobcat smiley face thank you very much indeed for all those amazing generosities please keep them coming i'll give you a reluctant thank you for that one do you want a menu what money you need to change your conflict oh you are very correct that would have been an interesting fight uh is this one yeah this is like one of one of the fights where it actually matters a lot yeah about to mess it up yeah so this is there's only three points in the game where we have uh a gf that we need to draw um from an enemy from a boss this is the second one that can happen so the first one was elvers back in dallas so you drew siren uh here is the second one there's a third one later and then third i said the tree oh you did okay the third one is pandemonium later and if you miss it you are just reset that's pretty much it although i have looked into removing this gf from the road it's worth getting yeah i don't think there's any situation in which it you're actually saving time by not drawing renault is pretty grateful here um but we're more interested in getting into our position so that irving can uh take the shot the vital shot that will end the game that's it if he's if all he has to do is hit this shot and we've won succeed and we'll be what four in a bit i was on yeah if he just makes this shot okay so i'm gonna so you're doing number one right yes so do all the four screens as normal like hold up left to the first gate uplift the second gate and then continue okay and then once you get to the screen that goes right just before the end you buffer four times holding right at the end no the holding right screen on the straight screen yeah but any of them count yeah there are two of them right yeah there's there's two yeah just do the second one the one it's the one just just before the actual wheel yeah i don't mind you well that's the stuff so basically what we do is like i figured out where you could get this encounter and how close you'd be to the end of a screen so leaving a screen after the encounter you would always have a fixed value for your encounter step id and then i went through the sewers using this same set of movement every time and just got to the end and see how far away we needed what we needed to add or remove to get a skipped encoder so this was one of the real backup ones and that actually works as a backup because it's nice to show the marathon wait did you stay up left first two yeah for the first screen first screen's up yeah then second screen hold up left and back wait uh both gates yes yeah okay always wait at the gate or do you okay yeah yeah i wasn't sure about that but the first one basically so here we don't press x yeah now and then proceed as normal so how to make this movement consistent was to like bonk into everything you can and then open the gates so like you'll see this christmas will always stop moving before we open a gate or anything so even here we wait for the screen to stop fading then we go i just this was the only way to make this entire sequence consistent on the steps it's consistent two and three times yes 66 of the time it works every time have you had to press and hold yeah i know this is my least favorite part yeah yeah it is very important to uh make sure you wait for the screen to fully fade in because like i just mentioned before during the fade in the step count is not active basically [Music] i think this is a lot of people's like least favorite part of the casual one just like getting lost in sewers so the next screen four buffers four buffers all right in buffer one two four no more buffers and six stops from the top so this is where it becomes really easy to create a manipur every time you move here at the top it just increases the step fraction by one uh increment so six and hopefully there you go oh perfect that is that's actually surprising [Laughter] so that's the two third chance this given encounter it looks like it's a really convoluted setup it's actually not so bad if you do it a few times and it's just 10 seconds time save straight up by not getting that encoder i shouldn't have doubted myself i made these back in the day we have a little image that i made back in the day and it has like different spots where you can get the encounter to skip it [Music] so despite accidentally getting locked in a room they've made it literally with two seconds to spare to have the correct position when irvin inevitably hits the air and ends you know wins the game yeah there's some fmvs here before he takes the shot so if you've anything you'd like to read what means these donations okay thank you very much we have ultimately here 25 good luck final fantasy 8 crew on the stage on your own shout out to everyone behind the scenes making this great event happen thank you very much that goes towards grieva's name matako and blood dive deletes another ten dollars all for my son little dive and that goes towards grievous name little dive at ten dollars as well so thank you so much again for all your generous donations i'm going to be quiet now we've got a shot to take you know he means business when he says his second name there yeah yeah yeah he's being serious you know your mom is really mad at you like there's no way no way he can miss though no like it's it's trained for this like his whole life what would ever deter him from missing or making me start to turn from hitting [Music] should we get ready on the button for yeah i don't know the timer yet already this is probably like gonna be it surely ah not this time never lucky we've gotta be here for another like four hours now complete marathon bad rng like well i suppose we'll carry on oh that's not what [Laughter] that's manipulation but everyone hit in practice like my uncle works for nintendo and he told me that he does and yoshi comes out the top of the thing yeah yeah yeah yeah this is one of the coolest fmvs yeah so we so we sort of intentionally decided that we'll leave disc one fully as is because it has all of the best fmvs basically [Music] so i guess during the fmv after idea i can swap it i'll save the thing we can do that oh yeah i'm not sure if the idea fights the trigger though i mean i'm not sure what triggers the it should be fine yeah but there's another transition pretty much as soon as you leave the room it will try to trigger won't it i don't know if that text is cut why not maybe no not sure yeah i guess we could drain the i'll join the mv and just save anyway then [Music] school gets to face off against this is a pretty hard part actually this is actually really difficult and he's done we call it here and he's dead don't even need to use the trigger yeah important thing when we don't need the trigger we will not do that because it just wastes some frames yeah they do sort of a long sort of recoil animation if you hit them with because the trigger is essentially a crit um like the fight similar before uh we have irvine in school who you do want atp with them right now who you don't want to hold x and hope that's the official uh that's the strategy in this oh that's that's right that's right sure they might be i don't know who they are they are like on the line that's yeah very hard to tell i'm gonna hold i'm just holding oh oh okay okay i'm lucky so this is what we mean about renault's attack being really slow it's very slow and it does 57. ah there we go okay nice i'm gonna stop this now i think this is the time so this is like percentage of life yeah but you should be able to match x when you're done oh yeah yeah [Music] you have to do control v i think yeah i think this should be fine maybe we saved it first maybe save for us so this is like uh as we have to like squeeze the rundown uh at short notice we uh weren't fully sure about how to do this we know it works to hot drop in the foils like this drag and drop on the fly but uh we're hoping that it'll all work out fine i've i've done it i've done that yeah i haven't done during an fmv actually yeah it would be removed from the foils yeah or actually these are not they're separate anyway i'll save it yeah stay first so all going well fingers crossed and uh this doesn't jank out i don't know why is that not working use analog oh yeah okay an unknown exception skirt that's not nice well done well then that's that's what happens that we saved uh so sorry tech that should be back roughly where it was uh these are let me copy these in again this is the captain again beast beast let's make the window bigger [Laughter] we have a laptop here for the manipulating vodka was pressing the button on the laptop [Laughter] [Music] good [Music] so welcome to cutscenes all going well here this should be a very very short sequence and the next few sequences should be really short [Music] uh yeah that so normally uh there's a bit of dialogue and then cures will appear so everything now should be shortened and cut [Music] making prison actually bearable [Music] a bit tricky to squeeze past a little movement super junky [Music] a big shout out again decide for tv for creating this mod if we were running this from the start to the finish this would just be a 4-hour run [Music] everything else is completely your step can't be hard reset which will be fine by accident [Music] yup there's a menu [Music] yeah we are going to do another encounter skip here by running and walking in a very specific manner hopefully yeah this one was a this one is a bit more trigger perform because now since the end of disc one we've just learned and just equipped there it was me combat which is encounter half so now where we used to just take like two steps or five steps on disc one now the issue is that because the encounter rate is increasing slower it would be too time consuming to walk at twice as many steps basically so what we do to counteract that is we do running steps then walking steps so that we're only walking when the exact moment that the step id would be incrementing um so what we do here is force the counter right this spot and then after we flee from this fight vodka we're going to be try quite so he can hear what's going on but he's going to run six walk two run four walk two and then on his way back up he's gonna do in sequence in series of two so two walking two running two so six four two four four two [Music] two perfect on the frame so six then two walking four then two walking and now he's gonna do twos [Music] it would be fine sounded correct yeah because the timing is very specific it's not as simple as just running to walking to running talking to and stuff like you need to do it with a very specific timing yeah so if that worked we will not get an encounter on the screen and if it didn't work then i'm passing the controller [Music] there we go perfect yeah this one well done so that's yeah it's one of the weirder parts of the step count really there's there's a little bit more in prison as well that we'll be doing this uh yeah it's free yeah it's it's a lot easier than that but it's still a bit weird so the only other thing you need to do is as we're leaving this stream so the last moment we are in the in the town square we just force an encounter before we enter the into the dirt into the house and uh then we know exactly what the step count will be when we take control of zell in prison [Music] is now proudly announcing that he's managed to kill zero monsters on his patrol well done oh yeah because after the events i have a guess of ld2 laguna has settled here in the village off [Music] yeah he's working as a guardian basically i guess dealing with the monsters and stuff i think he had alterior motives i think he was romantically involved but yeah [Music] i mean maybe but then he just leaves somebody never comes back that's questionable [Music] and that is laguna g3 i guess if you're not fluent in french it probably doesn't look so jarring that we're after skipping loads of stuff yeah but the conversation the text boxes are completely done there's no continuity between them i think you might be taking the reigns nowheres we were on uh three or something yeah roman remind me to uh change the bottom conflict i think i can oh no you have a menu coming out oh yes okay you can do it i can do it yeah here's one of the bigger time losses if you uh save the mumba you should have put that as an incentive really yeah but it's actually much quicker i mean like even like more than a minute it's the one that feels the worst because you know you're intentionally being cruel to the member but it really does add a lot of dialogue and a lot of extra scenes if you uh save it i think for unfortunately for most jrpgs being mean is quicker yeah i think there's one that i can think of we're school is actually nice to see it's the quickest oh yes in the garden yet yeah let's go practice but that's that's it very very minimal yeah oh this is putting this menu it is it is yeah nailed it no didn't nail it there we go perfect uh okay a quick swip a switch and i need to do something here no this one uh yeah and then this one yep yep perfect so for this movement i hold left bunks walk all the way right and then walk all the way down and this skips another encounter with zel that we would normally get i'm gonna walk two more steps just to be safe and we should be fine yeah so this whole setup here means that we will be getting like total uh one encounter fewer compared to the normal subcon basically even though the the uh the setup seems to look convoluted and slow they still save time [Music] crit he always quits in this fight it does it's like an alarming amount i'm also convinced that nine percent increases your crit rate i think so dude the cutscene the custom remover mod absolutely like i just get loads of i get loads of crits and i get loads of back attacks so just coming up here awesome oh no we have a boss fight familiar faces that we met on the top of the dollar count they just zoom in yeah instead of you know recognizing each other and you know pointing they just go zoom zoom and then we go so yeah you'll start noticing some funny animations going on i gotta see if christus can crit yolo i always go for this and i think it's a bad idea i don't think you've ever got it though so once i think yeah so zelkam one show both of these guys of course this cannot can one short wedge if she crits which is a pretty low chance but yeah you only live once right and now i hope everyone here is a fan of circles yep so you'll be seeing a lot of circles right if there's any time if there's any donations anytime anything to talk about we will just be running up and down this prison for the next few minutes okay thank you very much well i'll take the time to remind you you are watching esa summer 2022 raising money for save the children 48 474 dollars so far it's absolutely fantastic i will be swapping off uh hosting to a uh another wonderful gentleman very shortly about half an hour so can we make that sort of 600 come here well can we hit 49k 50k more get those donations in folks remember that all of your donations do go towards one of our wonderful prizes uh if you go to the esa marathon website and you can see the prizes on there we have basically hundreds of different prizes at various levels starting from a total donation of a hundred dollars throughout the event you can earn one of two ps5s one for north american residents one for eu residents we've also got steam decks at 75 dollars for minimum donation retrotinx 50 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who says you are doing so great keep it up vodka and that's going towards the fable lost chapters 100 incentive for whispers fate towards sparing whisper remember if you get your donations in not only can you benefit save the children but you can put those donations towards one of our incentives of bid wars by entering it on the right hand side of the donation page back to you too much uh it doesn't ruin our questions right now yeah i mean yeah it's actually [Laughter] really confusing it's actually really convenient that you got control back just so we got to the top there because i would have run the wrong options i have changed what i what options i picked there so i would have picked the wrong ones just by the instinct at this point it wouldn't have made a big difference anyway but it would have just changed which shortcuts we take here and where we would have got the encounters so we've already done several laps with zell but we because of the encounter skip that we did we didn't get any encounters at all while we're running with zelle we will just got one there with school we should get one more by the end of prison and that'll be it the movement here is especially bad on pc because we don't have analog movement we mentioned before several times like doing it with just eight directions it's terrible basically each of these uh like direction changes like i have a specific like visual cues to say like i need to change from this to this at that particular time for all of these screens it's another banger of a song it's just that we don't like prison enough yeah that's the thing we can do the content is uh is lacking compared to the uh now for someone who doesn't know the game and if it's your first time watching a final fantasy 8 speedrun um this section normally takes about 30 minutes but we're cutting it down to maybe 10 bucks not even something like that it's i think most of uh when you enter prison for the first time there's a long section there of just of loads and those are talking which we just got rid of completely never happened so we can get right to the important business of running in circles so the way we've kind of set up our junctions at the moment is um uh a school's party here has encounter half on but irving's party doesn't so that's why we specifically chose the uh the barriers to unlock on the right floors so that um irvin can skip as many of those floors as possible and he only actually has to run around one of them uh because he is getting the full sort of uh encounter rate whereas school's party is only getting they should only get this one and then that'll be that'll be it for encounters in prison okay and their junction as well so they can actually freeze adb i didn't really mention that either that if you're in the sub menu i briefly mentioned it when we did the fish film nip yes yeah all adb stops when you're in the we're in your sub menu so we just enter item and wait there and the flea check is actually continuing so you can actually just pause adv and hold until you escape battle the difference between ffa and some other final fantasies is that um uh once you actually put the choose the item and try are choosing the target atp starts running again so you've got to be careful which menu you're in so here for everyone who voted who uh donated to change angelo's name to cat this is the one and only time you'll get to see cat here we go [Music] just cat dog looking cat cannon yeah [Music] thanks car thanks kat the one and only time we'll see that unless we get a cat counter which can uh happen too oh i'd love that on the final bit i would it's always a great meme so yeah you see there even like there was supposed to be texts there where zell says we're coming up after you or something just run away and uh it's all skipped there's a little fmv there where you just look out over the fact that you're currently in the desert and you're up high on these uh on these on these bridges yep so the prison starts to descend into the ground and skull seems to caught himself in an unfortunate situation where he's um what's that word again oh um he needs to frankie yeah yeah yeah bracket to the right bernie that's shout out to uh zerocoinos who when they made their notes used the word brackies and everyone in final fantasy 8 had to google what a what practice so when you play the psx version of this game you actually don't have to do anything at all here to actually as long as you uh don't go left don't go left then you could just leave school in the position he's in and that's absolutely fine in this version you do have to move right a little bit otherwise you will come over just for not escaping the sandstorm i guess we skipped all the cutscene after where they talk and now we're straight up to the part where the party's going to divide and conquer here so selfie is going to take a team and they're going to go to the missile base to try and stop the missiles from being fired in the first place because sorry we missed all the tests that uh they found out that uh because the gardens were responsible for the assassinated attempt on the sorceress that the sorceress has now targeted both guardians with missiles so selfie's going to try to go there and try to stop them even being fired but obviously some of them have already been fired and then squall is going to take a team and they're going to go to back to the lamb garden to try and make sure everyone evacuates i think that's the gist of it so we specifically want us zeld to be in slot one for the party because he then will be closer to the car and he always walks whereas irvine runs so we i guess it is just a very very minor optimization it's like two seconds as well it's not it's worth doing and that's that's the selfies keep right there that's it we can call it the urban skip we need more skips yeah yeah yeah well the births get bored from that oh yeah yeah skip there is a member of the final fantasy community that loves timing things so there he has a he has a youtube channel called who uh just has hundreds and hundreds of videos side by side of direct comparison tiny little optimizations here and there with should you hold right versus upright should you do this should you do that and uh yeah it's quite a useful little resource yeah for sure so there's a zoomy care yeah it normally does not pack so fast sophie is a really good driver in this in cutscene remover oh hey six seven four i think that's all right here we go oh thanks mid run just about to say i might go run to the bathroom whether it's i was too slightly lately goes back to alton again because then i'm at least 200 euro dollars away from having the controller in mind but i can go in yeah i guess why uh while we enjoy the uh very funky missile base music we sort of pretended that we are a cambodian soldier so we can sneak in here yeah and then they try and sneak by this guard by just bending over a bit and he just says walk probably yeah why why why do you just walk normally you wear those this is actually i think casually this is actually quite fun yeah yeah yeah you uh just kind of stick around and find out what you could do to like wreck the base basically uh so this dude he tells you go talk to his other dude and then they eventually tell you go to the power room and uh you end up managing to shut off the whole power to the base and then eventually the alarm is raised and you got to do some more stuff and to find a self-destruct mechanism [Music] so while we're running around here if there's any donations you want to read yeah you have some time there is indeed thank you very much we have ten dollars from ceaselessly who says look at the lads good luck my ffa homies make us proud thanks east we'll do our best thank you very much indeed and johnny franks donates 75 without any comment but thank you very much indeed for your generous donation towards save the children 48 674 can we hit 49 000 in the next 15 minutes or so before i swap over let's see if we can do it thank you very much too much this selfie's expert spying technique hit it just hit it and then hit it a bit more and watch you know it turns off perfect and so if you want there is casually there's another route here where you actually don't have to fight anyone you can continue to um like stay undercover but it's much faster just to fight here i should kill one now for now do you i'm good yeah yeah it's not be safe or not they can both take a portion so stuff increases yeah i usually do it to like yeah when you're doing the next menu watching there uh i'll do the next menu i'll also change the uh configuration because switching switching atvs there was not as expected so yeah step count is now back active again and uh interestingly enough this is one of the only areas in the game where the screen transitions when you close the menu in case um yeah now is the time to do it uh screen transitions actually don't uh work effectively here so you can't mend your buffer back so if you lose step count here it's actually just too late i don't know okay this is actually one of my riskier fights in the run in a strange way there's a potential chance that the red soldier here the elite soldier can actually confuse one of your party members and if they do it can just get a bit monkeys what is that atp worst atv and thief is going first do we get a dog counter no cat counter or not okay kill the red guy so that's fine there you go and chris doug counter no no there's very few moments in the run where um renault is actually in the parry ortiz where you actually could get the potential dog counter meme a pretty good fight considering how bad the atv was yeah so here we're looking for a self-destruct mechanism or some mechanism we haven't found it yet so you've talked to people in the order it turns out it wasn't anybody it wasn't even in this room the next room are we deciding we only need 10 minutes to escape the uh yeah only need 10 minutes to escape the missile base but despite that we're going to go back in anyway [Music] now we've already seen one immaculately designed security system in this game when with the with the door in the carry mansion we're about to see one possibly even better i think um a little terminal just here we're going to be interacting with to try and stop the missiles and uh there's a password the password only takes uh the letters a to f as potential characters and the password is just the word adeya just adair very secure um no numbers no special characters nothing oh we're back attacked that's fun this could be a very long fleet so the worst case scenario for the fleeing is that you get back attacked whereby your flea counter is set to zero to begin with and needs to go to like 40 or it takes 40 seconds maximum i think yeah and this will probably take close to it can yeah there's nothing you can do i've had back attacks before where i've played immediately and i've had back attacks where it's taken 40 seconds uh this is looking more like the latter [Laughter] there's not much you can really do about this yeah there really isn't there we go and if this happens in your pb pace run you just cry yeah there's nothing you can do about it in some instances it's actually quicker just to kill the enemies and suffer the time lost that way but it's still a awful time loss of the way so we're into very modern ui now uh first thing we've got to do is set the error ratio uh on the missile targeting because all missiles surely have [Laughter] how much wrong do you want to be yeah put this all the way up to so you you do need to do this otherwise you know you'll you'll fail a cutting later on you don't have to go to the maximum you can go to one lower than the maximum which is right there that's world record strats right yeah optimizations once you change the error issue you need to upload that data normally these spinny things take ages to yeah fill up uh cutting remover makes it a little bit easier for us there i think it was built to like instill like a bit of tension and stress yeah like because the timer is still up in the top right corner and still whittling its way down and you're waiting before the game was made in like 498 so i guess uploading data just simply it did take that long surprised i didn't put in the dial up internet connection noises should be this next fight is set up in a very kind of particular way the next boss has a damaged threshold that when he's below 50 hp he just starts using this laser cannon and it'll one-shot your party members so to avoid that we've carefully junctioned selfie and set her her damage up in a way that she will only do like 40 percent of the damage just under 50 and this boss has another there we go cat's back cat's back um this boss has another interesting dynamic where it died it can actually it can be defeated and leave battle at 80 percent of its hp but you don't get awarded the ap for killing it that's all that's the difference so we're just in this route we're just going with that we're not going to get any ap for beating this machine itself and we're just going to use two selfie attacks it's the difference between getting 24 ap and getting four ap because yeah spoiler there's some soldiers in it that come out now in a minute so we get the 40p for them but none we don't get the 2080p for the machine but machine is now effectively broken it will somehow reverse its way out of the battle area to be replaced by some burning men yeah and this fight is the place where we make use of christus's second limit break i guess that we taught her over two hours ago back in the second floor my new yeah we used the immaculately uh translated u-boat which is what the french version calls the spider web uh to teach her ultra waves which we use purely for for right now just to kill those soldiers there's some extra dialogue at the start of that fight if you haven't already cued something that will limit break that will actually kill them uh kill them there here we got a bit of an optimization of how we perform the menu not really the menu itself but the movement we do just leaving the battle and doing this uh it's a setup used by conor cordell one of the more famous ffa runners and we all robbed us it's he menu is while going down left then hold left here until you stop moving and then hold right again and it just means and then hold left again so at this moment you're kind of trapped within the walls of the missile base and you kind of have to run around to the door run over to the left and right again and that's the minimum amount it's kind of a consistent consistent setup to move as little as possible so we learn strength plus 40 with ifra uh earlier on during the missile base fight um so we uh have just added that to uh selfie and then we switched the junctions around so this party has now uh uh got all the junctions and all the strength um just ready to come back to garden uh where there seems to be a battle going on so it's quite convenient they just want to come back to tell people they need to evacuate but it just turns out there's a whole like a civil war going on here there's uh some division among the members of seed in the lamb garden and you get asked here are you with the master norg are you with sid so that's that is the division have to garden have sided with seeds and half the garden have decided with master norg we don't know who that is yet but we all know oh yeah [Laughter] [Music] uh there are a few locations you have to visit here in order to progress the story and that while that is happening and i think you listen to a few donations okay thank you very much indeed we have received a 22 donation from train spotting selfie who says what are the runners favorite final fantasy games but quickly before you answer that we have received another ten dollars from speedy dad without any comments but thank you very much indeed take it away what your favorite friend i just interject there and just say i know who that is and i also have no comment i think i know speedy den as well yeah i think you do uh favorite final fantasy i think i have to say this one um final fantasy is a weird franchise it's that there's a lot of nostalgia for a lot of people uh and that can kind of overwrite the objectivity of uh what actually is and isn't um yeah the uh you know actual good mechanics or whatever but i think i enjoy the brokenness of this game i enjoy the feel of it i'll enjoy the uh soundtrack i think it's overall yeah my favorite experience definitely so i'll also also find fancy yeah and not to like continue on the bandwagon yeah unfortunately it is i think we're about the same age just from like i'm not surprised it's just the game you grew up as a teenager so i would have played 57 earlier but final fantasy 7 uh i guess i was a bit younger and then when final fantasy 8 came out i was just like a teenager enough to like really get involved with the story and abuse the mechanics of the game and really enjoyed it so even though i like loved them all but i think yeah probably eight for me as well [Music] uh i haven't played any of the games as a kid because i never owned a ps2 basically so i'm free from nostalgia i guess that's nice yeah uh and i guess i would have to say 8 and 13 13 just because i played a lot as a speedrunner and 8 because i used to watch my dad play it a long time ago and then i enjoyed the game too fantastic thank you gonna interject just quickly absolutely uh unfortunately my time now uh on the microphone has uh expired so i'm going to be handing over to the one and only nico hart who will take you he will keep you in good company for the rest of the run thank you very much indeed everyone for your fantastic donations thank you so much love esa thank you so much thank you so much uh and enjoy the rest of the marathon cheerio for now oh it's on a different screen then now this did i've got an option to choose here be very careful and i do not want to choose the wrong one oh we get some more wizard stones though it's true so if i choose the top option there i'd have to fight a granaldo which is the boss that we actually fought in the training center earlier on in the game we have to fight another one of those obviously we're much stronger now than we were back then but uh it's still time consuming do that so yeah not interested [Music] here we have spotted zoo or a shoe i guess depending on the language you use uh and we are going after her because i guess well she is the most important person in the garden honestly she was way more important than sid or anyone else she basically runs the place so we are after her to try and find out what's going on first thing she asks is which which side are you on and then we basically say we don't care we've got some missiles coming our way so more important problems than whatever city war is going on here yeah and see this in hiding i guess trying to uh flee from the opposing faction and he's a great mastermind and he's simply hitting his office because i guess nobody would think of looking for him one there the great military minds headmaster sid what he's telling us now though is that there's uh some sort of secret you know weapon or function or something that might be able to get us out of the issue we've got with the missiles in the garden he doesn't know what it is but he knows it's in uh of an old an old basement so we're going down there to check it out uh it might be a dead end we might all be about to die who knows who knows yolo we could the interesting thing coming up here cypher made so down here is a valve mini game that's coming up obviously we can use turbo and uh we can perform it in one go but before we were allowed to use turbo cipher actually implemented a counter within the mini game where you could uh see how many inputs you actually got you need to get 100 in seven seconds yeah um so we could do that we could track our resistor you could do it just to show how hard it is yes i think that's probably the issue with this is that the pc port it like eats your inputs because it's only like 15 fps menus and 30fps um but if the game like lags any bit while you're putting in an input it just eats the input or if you input too fast above those fps values it's to the point where faster mashing it it means you've actually do fewer inputs in total so i go for it that's it i'm gonna guess 73 77 it's gonna be less than that i mean i would get like 60 because i cannot do it well okay 25 i guess oh i'm into this can you go on one second [Music] oh i'll do this bit do that but i'm actually for the real attempt here actually matched slower than i did in the first one i purposely went like a lot more like vigorous in the first one and i got 25 inputs that second one you need 50 and i purposely went much slower and uh i managed to get it a very awkward screen that one [Music] just kind of button for a moment hi there i'm going to be your new reader um hi i'm nico hart so how are you runners hi how are you all right good good how's the run going so far so far so good yeah considering we're kind of uh watching together a shortened version of what we use yeah and swapping controller every hundred dollars we're uh it's great fun fantastic well do you mind if i read the donation box we're doing stuff yeah there's a bit of time awesome right we've got a 30 donation from zorg zero one four seven no comments um and it goes towards the uh grievous name of lil dive so we got uh 21 of that donation going towards the name thank you very much for the donation how are you doing on the incentive at the moment uh let me go check i've just literally got to the desk so i'm gonna see what i can find let's have a look see here we can i mean we can come back to that later i guess i've got it i've got it right here we've got a little dive at 181 matako 180 and 89 cents it's only 11 cents between so people at home you can change the [ __ ] the fate of the name between matako and little dive there's also doff which is at 120 dollars go to 85 rocker of 30 dollars and paimon at 10 there is a great amount of competition at the moment so who wants to change the fate between little dive and taco it's all up to you get those donations in for save the children yeah make sure you pay attention to the sense i guess because i'm not sure if that actually appears on the screen on stream at least so if you want one option to win make sure pay attention to those tiny bits after the comma for these weird sort of uh uh things have just come out to attack us uh this is a that's why you saw a save just before this uh just before this fight because this is a potential wipe uh with nothing you can do about it uh if uh if you get bad atps to start they they perform an aoe attack which um does you know quite you know more than half of the hp of each of the members of your party um uh and they it's possible for them to get two of those in before you've even had any atb i'm gonna swap up the waves now because we've had the just uh i think we just had another so oh yeah yeah maybe you can read that donation out actually if you wouldn't mind there's another one that just came in uh personal again there's yeah i'll be back anymore all right cool yep i've just got donation in and it is a hundred dollars from awesome waves i really need to use the bathroom there you go [Laughter] offered a little jog over there and then the slow walk meandering afterwards thank you very much for that 100 donation didn't go towards any bids though oh but as i mentioned earlier on there is still the grievous name choice that you can put the bid towards again a little dive at 181 mataki at 180 and eighty nine cents there's still time to change the name i guess we can ask waves about the incentive when he comes back he obviously just really needed yeah so yeah we uh we just thought um those oil balls are the name of that um uh enemy we just fought and usually after that is in 90 run is when uh you know there's it's one of the few sort of breaks that is is more than a minute long with this is there's a lot of fps and stuff that um uh we're able to you know go and take a break and the game will take care of itself for a bit uh but we're kind of cutting through all of that getting rid of all that stuff but after world wars we kind of discovered that the reason that the sort of secret weapon or the the big secret surrounding the garden uh that we found discovered in the basement uh is the fact that he can fly we found a random console we didn't know what it does school in traditional fashion just pressed all the buttons at random and uh yeah we're we have liftoff and we're on our way crashing towards uh the town of balaam which uh obviously wouldn't be ideal uh but this is a cutscenes ascent all those cutscenes are gone we've now woken up uh after sort of working out how to turn the garden we turned it into the ocean we were worried about that turns out it floats so we're not not in the too bad the position um now we're just sort of trying to think about what to do like okay we're in a mobile garden now we know what now uh olson's about to come across i think oh no sorry this is the wrong it's the wrong moment uh so yeah little uh garden factory member comes up to us and says uh garden master norg who was the cause of this civil war that was happening in the garden that we didn't really know about uh he wants to see you so uh go down to go down to the basement level and we'll have a chat so we get to find out who he is and what he's about best hundred dollars ever spent but it was worth every cent it was absolutely worth it all goes forward save the children so we very much appreciate your donation we want to put that towards incentives oh yeah i probably should have i didn't actually think of it i think it can be fixed if you say it probably let's see what's coming up i think there was a crash bandicoot so here's nog he's uh a bigger thing called the shumi uh but he's not very happy with us so uh we're just gonna get rid of him [Music] but in this fight we're gonna abuse a open slimmer break again um but he we got a full heal um uh before this fight so what we have to do is attack with school to get him down to critical hp uh do a couple of attacks on the pod uh to make sure that he um opens up and and himself is exposed and now we're using irving's limit break using normal ammo that's a short one yeah no crit we've got five no crits so that is a really unlucky thing that can happen if you get a low crisis level then you've only got enough time in avengers limit break to uh do five shots um and if none of them [ __ ] then it's not quite enough to deal with his hp the not not much you can really do but that's kind of just a unlucky piece of rng we try to make sure we can guarantee the kills basically whenever i use uh irvine's limit break but we just can't guarantee the kill in this fight unfortunately so nog is now turned into jupiter uh and we're just gonna once again this is this is a moment where we kind of go who was that guy why are we like why did we just kill him what's going on and let's talk about it later yeah yeah don't worry about that that's a problem for tomorrow if i can put my 100 incentive actually mary kate and ashley seek sweet 16 sounds like a hilarious added bonus game um here asks if we want to see sid and we basically say no and leave that's fine yes we say yes yeah it'd be great to talk to him okay goodbye we need to speak with him right now and then it's like okay bye [Music] and we're going to see some zoomies zoomy shoot oh yeah we will see some super shoes this is one of the funny bits of the cutscene remover present that this yeah runs towards us when cypher was making the mod first there was some really funny stuff going on with like cars and stuff and we're like leave it in it's absolutely hilarious we don't care if it's slower leave it on this one yes yes the elevator boss is like the most difficult this is the most difficult in the game i think there are four partic four four points in the in the game where we have to use the elevator and we have to choose something that isn't the first option and uh oh so many runs i've just i've just smashed through it and gonna go down to the basement for no reason you're super close to 49 k super that is correct we're only eight dollars away from 49 okay do you mind if i read the donation that just came in as well yeah yeah all right we got a 10 donation from lifesync that says we want to hit the chin version aka bod cap of eyes on me at the end is this something you're not going to be able to do vodka can do it yeah if they can bring the camera i don't have control over the camera they can't capture my glorious chin in all of its you know the the equipment isn't set up quite you know sure they can work it out [Music] we'll see i guess we'll hold you to that [Music] so here we were told by the white seeds that are right outside that uh the girl named elon is somewhere on the ship and so you just have to scan the garden and find her she turns out she's over here in the library and uh she turns out that she was also the person who was sending us to the uh dream world by the way we just hit 49 000 let's go that means we are just less than 1 000 away from that glorious 50 000 total nearly raised so can we get some more donations pulled in again towards save the children and try and reach 50k by this run i think we could do a twitter chat i think let's go let's come on to a show let's go let's go [Applause] yeah we skipped over a lot of things here uh discussion with uh the character that's been bringing us into the dream world um how do you pronounce her name by the way there's a lot of different oh it's supposed to be illinois is it supposed to be lna yeah i think i've actually worked out what it actually is because that's one option right it's there's there's a loan yes all right there's there's the goal now first adoption the next option yeah fisherman's relationship oh yeah of course yeah um i think i've worked it out i think it's l1 because she's a non-playable character so she's always level one the whole game how many dead jokes can you like two hundred dollars just another if you hit 50k we might be able to move bad cap house the buck app skip is real just to let you know awesome ways we've got that donation bit put forward towards american ashley i'm sure we can get that reached at some point soon yeah do you have some time for some donations uh yeah we shall be awesome robo sparkle was one who sniped at the 49k with the eight dollar sane 49 snipe and it goes towards grievous name of goat we've also got total nonsense with 30 saying good luck to everyone and good job for a great show so far now go save time or something i still don't understand a story and we've also got a cat one with 20 as well saying i must have junctioned myself onto my taco so let me kind of update the uh the bid incentive and see where we're at right now we're at oh my goodness me matako is at 236 dollars and 44 cents little dives at 181 now so that is quite the difference thank you very much for the donations everyone keep them coming in there yeah thank you very much everyone we should still have around 20 30 minutes i think 20 minutes 20 minutes sure it is safe to say i'll give more notice again before the cutoff for anyone donating it so after this section and the next section we're actually going to swap back to the any percent files so we will actually get the garden battle in its full entirety yeah there's some pretty cool cutscenes in there so we thought we we didn't want to deprive the viewers of those fmvs we just basically prioritized around cutting out the fluff and leaving in the cool in the cool stuff yeah story-wise because because we cannot control the garden yet we crash into the fisherman's horizon but they aren't even that bad because they like fixing things basically so they're fine with it they're going to even repair our ship and like allow us to actually control it properly uh in the meantime uh the kalba indians arrived here too and the mayor decides he can go talk them out of their violence and uh that doesn't work out so well for him so we've got to interject okay yeah i mean we'll we'll see we'll see them here just now there he is um i can't i can't remember who it was i think it was maybe windows i mentioned that he looks like an upside down pineapple i know i can't not see that you gotta love the shirts the hearts on the shirt so we've reluctantly said yeah let's go and help him out uh there are two waves the waves we wait we can do this fight we can either use uh irvine cement break but if the atp ends up not aligning well we can simply just about three times we can do both i guess why not do you forget to uh i didn't change the conflict so it took me a while it's fine did some huge donation just coming don't nailed it i think so we did get some donations coming in how many times did we go over 100 three times dude i think twice we were on 117 before oh we okay yeah twice uh i'll do this fine and then uh the rain's back oh oh that's okay so squall can i think he's got pretty high chance of one shotting uh bgh here if not we usually do it that's a very high roll get back to waves and you might want to need to do one input and then we give it back to olson who then needs to give it back to me afterwards oh yeah [Laughter] yeah okay thank you very much uh we might have to hold off the donation just a minute because we got to swap over the version of the game and save and stuff so oh good all good we should have some time after that again or maybe on the way to travia we can probably fill in something but we've got uh now i'm one of the more tricky bosses of the run oh wait we're going to the quad yeah yeah we've got one we have we have time for one or two so yeah [Music] oh if the movements on these screens kind of mess me up sometimes there's another big issue coming up here as well do we just no we didn't pass it again what do we do uh actually i'm gonna do it yeah i'm actually gonna do this now before i forget uh okay so the concert is coming up uh and if you want to not listen to irish jig you might you need to make sure that waves will not be in control during the no so if yeah you need you need to someone needs to donate enough to give me back the controller because you need irish jig no we do need that i'm the impartial third party uh i don't know how if i have controller i'll flip a coin okay that's fair kind of but if you 100 want the irish jig which you do um it'll fill you with motivation and everything to continue the run uh it's coming up literally like two minutes maybe yeah pretty someone would kind of need to snipe in now with the uh with the knee if you if you're thinking what the benefit of not having the irish jig is just for you know misery it's uh it's seven seconds if anyone's interested in cutscene remover it doesn't it doesn't matter it doesn't do anything doesn't cost us anything we just get to listen to the irish jig it's like a unique track in the game oh here it's automatically that's the one i'm always surprised that there isn't an option yeah it's weird [Music] running low on time do you have a coin to flip i don't actually have any questions can google can google for the coin for you yeah if you just do a flip app or something okay i think google actually has a coin flip in built into it if you google coin flip i think so yeah bring it yeah do that does google chrome virtual coin flip i don't know that's a desktop app it's just a clipboard.com so while we are trying to flip the coin you can i guess go with some donations yeah absolutely i'm more than happy to we got a few donations in we got 5.55 from trains that says ever wondered how they put so many citrus fruits into those scented shampoos lime compression and that goes towards the matako name we've got t-89 giving five dollars saying but them for bobcats joke just now which is probably about like probably about like six or seven minutes ago that goes towards the taco as well just doing it uh i'm about to flip a coin which one is which uh can't really see the camera heads for my two am i choosing uh heads is jake your head's jake has his jig there we go scams scams we are not doing the irish stick today ah very disappointing uh sounds like we haven't heard eyes on me all the way through the entire thing anyway make chris's dab at least oh should i do the mix okay make her make her dab at the end yeah so everyone's gonna play eyes i mean apart from questions who's gonna do her own thing and uh completely uh is the one right yeah she's just gonna dab her way through the whole thing well actually so i'll leave her i'll to see it because we weren't in like something like we're actually correct yeah we actually there she's just having a happy old dab uh nothing like the song we want to play no no it adds a bit of percussion that wasn't normally there there is another tiny optimization here we will bunk into uh tifa because that's faster yeah you can just run down and then trigger the uh trigger the dialogue but if you actually go and talk to her yeah otherwise she kind of like stops you and makes you walk over slowly and i guess we have some more time for donations before the concert begins no problem we've got a 50 a dollar donation from blood dive that says my waifu dive could hunt me for that donation but anyways go cloud go light nick um go nero [Laughter] that goes towards little dive for the name i'll let you know how much that incentive is going to be in a moment and where we're at we've got 50 from dusk enterprises that says coming for your boy phil matako s grieva please thanks olsen dip a drip master wave sir podcap and esa for the hard work as well infinity x2 k4 gives dollars saying shout out to the gun blade being the most epic weapon ever played when uh when i played this as a kid enjoy the run y'all and keep up the great work esa crew that goes towards a little dive for the name incentive let me do a good older refresh right now at the moment it looks like little dive is still in the lead i will have to double check for one of the bit incentives in just a moment but little dive is sitting at 251 matako 241 and 44 cents so about just under 10 between them as of right now thank you very much everyone thank you nico yeah thanks is it just me or is the music a bit in that bed i can't hear the face i can't hear the bass yeah the bass is not there it's not there's no but i think the music is glitched out because we did a mix really i think it is who normally plays the bass though oh no that's quest is the job oh that's right oh yeah she's dabbing instead oh it sounds weird i don't like it no i told you she's a jig in because the concert is cut from the game the music just plays during this art instead and that is a really nice addition honestly just because i wanted to hear the irish jig yeah well you can hear a quarter of it and now we have control of the garden hey here now world map ready this is one of my least favorite parts of movement trying to actually park it in a good spot here they're saving as william uh yeah let's do the menu in the world okay actually this yeah [Music] okay we definitely do need to save here as there is another fight that can definitely wipe the party if it was unlucky yeah this is definitely one of the riskier ones just wanted to update you quickly we had to uh sign a bit because it wasn't actually a sign but it wasn't a comment so matako 291 dollars and 44 cents little dive at 251 so there is a big leap right now we're gonna need some closing in to make that little dive go up if you want little dive to be um the winner for the grievous name you're gonna have to know it's about like oh over 40 dollars at the moment so let's get it going because we are getting very very very close to 50 000 raised hundred 449 seventeen dollars raised as thus far you lot are amazing yeah keep the donations coming great to see 50k how this is going you could reach 50k be to be for the end of this keep them coming yeah so you're wondering what's going on right here the game has one or two moments one or two sections in it where there's like a pity mechanic is what i want to call it this has been named the pity skip for a while um if you're supposed to go around the whole town of blam looking for story triggers looking for food for the commander spoiler it's fusion that's right it's right no fusion yeah oh sorry i thought it was i thought she was the commander um anyway it's quicker just to after 17 screen transitions the game just kind of feels sorry if you and goes ah it's okay here you go and that's what we just did there it's quicker just transition 17 times and then uh you can i'll do two [Music] so this boss is in two sections this is the first fight where you just fight russian and the next fight is fusion and russian and fusion has a gf we need to draw which is pandemonia which is the wind gf and while she has that gf in her position before you draw it she can use tornado attack which is a aoe and if things just go kind of badly here they can just kill irvine and it just becomes a real mess very very quickly so hopefully it doesn't that's clean that was good so i'm just waiting here not actually inputting the uh uh the limit until squall has actually drawn pandemona one portion under one after yep that's a very good uh atvs yeah it was good if you'd buffered with zelda i think you might have been able to skip tornado i was too surprised by the atb's this is also where we learn encounter none which means no more random encounters from this point on except for esther where we take two encounters on purpose basically to learn some of the abilities that we need a quick menu here to equip the gif we just got equipped with under none potion irvine once just to make sure he's in good stead the upcoming guard medal set some more stuff learning and that's it off to travia which would normally be another very text heavy section okay when you uh leave the garden it's pointing in a random direction so like you can either go backwards or forwards but uh yeah island hopping you can jump over these islands so you don't have to climb up under the beach i'll say before i go in just in case the lights change i will do it after i'll do it on the world map oh you can do it okay you can i actually think there'd be no issue swapping the wrong map after i'll wait until i'll save just in case but i don't want to do anything yeah yeah [Music] i see a lot of ways this is usually where your heart sinks a little bit as you're entering travia yeah in any percent because uh very technical there's a lot of there's a lot of uh exposition that happens here um this is actually a great track as well it's called ami yeah yeah i'm a fan of this one did we swap the audio yeah we did yeah i'm sure [Music] one of the only issues with this game uh this version is that uh the default audio is very midi it's like really awful it's not the psx version um so it's been allowed on the leaderboards that you can swap in the psx version of the files because it would be unbearable otherwise quite unbearable some of the tracks are hurting i mean they're all pretty bad some more than others some are i mean i would i would go as to say different tracks to the originals because of how badly they've recreated them [Music] you have background movement on the analog chin on the analog yeah [Music] [Music] i see any ones don't yep so yeah we're just going through sort of uh what so the idea behind the cutscene remover is that um it still contains pretty much an identity like the inputs you have to do in the you know the actual all of the story triggers and everything are all still there so uh this conversation you still have to like go up to the right person to talk to them you still have to do all of these things but the actual amount of text that is uh gone through is just significantly reduced and that's the end of trivia almost basically they all figured out that they went to the same orphanage together they used gf's which affected their memory and they no longer remembered that they went to the office together yeah and then big drama a big dramatic effect is that uh the idea was actually their nation of the orphanage so that's also why irvine was unable to defeat her uh anyone so you want to save i'll save i'll get off now yeah it should be fine i think like drive away okay as you think okay oh [ __ ] okay so uh yeah so if everything went to plan we did just save so it should be okay uh when we continue the next story trigger it should be back into the standard files and we should have the full game so we get all the really cool cutscenes from the upcoming section the lack of background input while you did that messed me up a little bit there but we were back on track so yeah we're we're driving the garden now towards we thought yeah we decided let's go and uh see the orphanage where we all grew up um and yeah slightly faster to go backwards so you have to kind of turn the camera around just swipe points really and while we are trying to get to the galaxy garden or close to it it is a perfect time for some messages from nicole perfect thank you very much we do have a donation from lesler with 30 dollars saying i love final fantasy 8 first game that i've really played until the end since then i've finished all of the main final fantasy games some multiple times and that's going towards the grand theft auto 5 any percent ending choice of the third way or up to 30 dollars going towards it thank you very much for the donation back to you thank you i think there was another donation that might have just came in there but we're getting please yeah but it needs to get changed processing now we'll get it to you in a second change the config i will yeah i'm also gonna just in case anyone was worried we are going to save the hot for the dogs we're gonna save the pretzels in there in french there are no hot dogs there are only pretzels prepare for the attack prepare the defense save the junior classman no we don't need that no no that's the pretzels yeah we do get scolded oh yeah and i've seen cuisine in cafeteria and a hand on the head it's interesting that it didn't cut off the dialogue i hope it actually doesn't make a difference i don't think it it doesn't i don't know around 80 percent swing yep that doesn't matter [Music] so yeah i hope you enjoyed we've uh switched the any percent files back in for this uh there were some really cool cutscenes during this whole section uh the end of this too um the the battle between uh gambey gardner um so yeah i hope you hope you enjoy the cutscenes yeah somebody some of the best customs in the game are in this section yeah and as far as the incentive goes there will be a bit of running around then some fmvs the paratroopers fight the air soldier fight and then we will need to close the incentive i guess what 10 minutes perhaps still left probably more because yeah yeah yeah all the fb so maybe 10 or 15 minutes left for to finalize griever's name so get your donations in if you want my taco or little dog do you mind if i read some donations absolutely we got t-89 back again with 10 and 89 senses don't forget the ladder don't forget the ladder don't forget the ladder don't forget the letter going towards my taco that's ten dollars and eight nine cents from the taco we've got a hundred dollars from rumble trouble comp that's what the name is i can say words um says okay question for mr vodka that's me okay vodka oh no i know what this i is even need to say anything okay would you rather have squall's head and your body or score's head and skull's body but your feet but my feet yeah but your feet i know it's the most question squad is the best looking guy in the room so i've got to have his i've got to have his head and i'll take his body as well sounds good to me and that's going towards keeping your own feet yeah that's going towards the kill trevor choice we've got another anonymous 100 donation as well that says no mention of old snarf i notice also shout out to conor cordell one time june that's fine fancy eight run and that's going towards the grievous name of snarf said a bit incentive right now we are at matako with 302 dollars and 33 cents little dive at 251 that means there is more than a 50 amount apart between those names again we've only got about 10 minutes around 10 minutes is what the runners have said so please get your donations in you don't have much time until we have to close off that incentive we are just under four hundred dollars away from fifty thousand dollars can we push can we get a five or ten or twenty dollar hype train to try and meet that within the next ten minutes i think we can i think we can i think we definitely need to i need to get the controlled background to me yeah we need to keep keep swapping the controllers we need more chaos i think that's what we need maybe we should lower the amount that we need to control yeah so like one dollar extreme maybe like um if we can make a push for 50k we say like every 50. it's got to be 50. so we'll reduce it now to 50. and we'll start at 650 so it's a round number yeah okay so it's easy yeah so ever so at 650 we'll swap again and every 50 after that get the donors in this is one of the coolest fmvs yeah sure i mean it makes no sense but yeah but it's fantastic that never matters it's cool oh there we go oh nice that's it it started it has begun let's get 50k can we get 50k before the end of the disc maybe [Music] now that i think about it like this part is actually going to make sense because we have fifa so it's fine because she does have strong she's earlier oh my god upper body strength you know that makes perfect sense and we're only 80 as well so she's going to be there for a long long time i think it is like 20 minutes she's there for yeah yeah yeah actually yeah we've we still have plenty time for donations for the names it's not quite 20 minutes i think i remember thinking that she's there for quite some time it's like 10. okay yeah sorry tifa uh falls down here um gets i mean that would be painful uh she's holding on to this tiny little ledge made of clearly quite a crumbly rock material but we could just slip at any moment um [Music] has it already done that 650 yeah and uh yeah she's going to be sitting here hanging here rather uh for quite some time but she's tifa so she's she's she's strong she's fine with this hey vodka oh hello mind if i read a donation for you i don't like i don't like the way this is going but uh do it hit me uh qbs donates 40 dollars that says question for mr bobcat okay why is mario party significantly superior to crash bash i know who that is and my answer is no comment ah come on and that goes towards the name of snarf surprisingly stuff who's actually climbing up into ranks from nothing to now third place is that 140 dollars but keep the donations coming in we do have some more donations to read as well if you are if you are happy for me every one more we've got safari with five dollars saying final fantasy 8 is the greatest love story in all of gaming zell library girl and hot dogs starts off with zell longing for hot dogs with library girls see when when library girls see them they spend time together in the library then it all culminates at the end when hot dogs tries to kill zell by choking him but library girl is there to save him and they live happily after after the end does that sound about right yeah bringing it here to my eye yeah that goes towards the matako name so five dollars towards my taco i'm gonna do a refresh but tacos now at 307.33 cents little dive at 251 dollars i might as well bring snack into the freight things staff said 140 those are the top three keep them coming [Laughter] yeah so this is what can happen you have the elevator i know this goes why doesn't that happen all the way back like what yeah but it goes here yeah right which is right yeah i've never understood how how they decide when and when not to ask you to enter the elevator so yeah uh we're about to well there's another fight coming up but awesome this is one of i think it's one of the most annoying fights because like you can re you won't you won't die or wipe or anything that's fine but you'll just lose loads and loads of time and there's nothing you can do about it there's four of these soldiers paratroopers are going to fight paratroopers green dudes yeah and uh they have like demi is one of their spells slows another spell silence and all of them just have long animations yeah and you can just get so unlucky that all four of them will do this and your pb just goes to ruin yeah my my latest run had four uh all four of them didn't attack before any of my characters had any atb it's just it's just disgusting or you can get like an instant of an atb and just like it's it's it's a real real coin flip do you do the kill selfie buffer now what yeah if sophie's first you can buffer her attack on herself better level for um oh yeah well probably still better to do there we go i've seen worse but not much yeah that was only one spell at the end of the day yeah yeah still wasn't ideal yeah once again uh like we said uh when we got irvin in the party he's kind of gonna hard carry us for the rest of the run pretty much so uh he has you know he at the moment we have normal ammo and we have shotgun ammo and any fight that's against a single enemy we're using norman and any fight against multiple enemies it's an aoe so it does damage to all of the uh all of the enemies and we're using that and it's pretty much able to destroy most things in our path at this point if this fmv time is right this the kid will be mid-air when we leave the screen yeah see let's see it let's see it there he is there he is let's take an option yeah from here yeah okay there we go easy game for babies [Music] i don't even need this from dude i can't see the yeah that's okay oh i think we're oh no no not quite not quite not the end not yet almost but then there's still a couple minutes left so somebody wants to snipe it i guess i think that's four changes yeah yeah so i'll do i'll do yeah oh yeah fortunately it's disgusting okay it's one two you should have changed your control scheme yeah uh i'll do it now okay i can't i'm not in the menu so i can't sorry that's there you go that's for off to you yeah we have plenty time for uh donations now yeah we have uh you lot saw that donation coming in our screen 200 just came in from from pishi that says vodka give me your best case if role play and another 150 dollars coming up what does that even mean yes for you for you if you have the the cannon put it on your head where is the cat picture oh i don't even know what he what he does it's a big thing with a cat in his head what more do you need i'll work on it i'll work on it give me a second are you going looking up cats is going to get a cat picture and then you got to do that little dance he does when he's uh you will have a good day car pictures cat pictures uh yeah you got to do the little boogie shuffle he does when he's good there we go there we go we've got a nice yeah you put that on your head yeah yeah yeah then do the little shuffle yeah okay how do i um leave your hands in the way have you played final fantasy sir once a long time ago cap your hands in a way oh this is very difficult there we go it's showing multiple images now third time's the charm that sounds oh this actually that's a handsome boy that's a nice for impromptu cosplay i hope we were going to get that another 150 donation because if we do that would make it 50 thousand dollars so let's see if uh that is permittable see the squad is giving a speech here he's revving up the the garden people saying he's 17 years old unqualified and unable to do this job [Laughter] you're probably all going to die yeah this kind of thing steve you're in the lobby you'll probably be first first yeah that's it um so yeah it's a real change of pace he doesn't want to be the leader but they he still gets forced into it and he does give an old motivational speech just to rally the troops and we do get one of the most interesting mini games coming up i've well yeah i'm a feeling i if someone donates two dollars i won't be doing it but well there we go and that is 50 000 raised for save the children thank you very very much for all of your generosity all of your kindness that was from pushy that says i am impressed but needs more work in it one more time the comment was i am impressed but needs more work in it thank you very much for the 150 again that is all going towards save the children yeah thank you so so much for the donation that was incredibly kind of you thank you thank you very much well done everybody 50k brilliant just in time for the intense music so uh bring us some more hype oh yeah there we go another change i'm digging this 50 50. i think i think we should have been doing this we could have hit 50k an hour ago what coming up is the air soldier minigame this is also another troll fight i've actually done this twice i think it was early in my days of figuring out the game and routing i died to this in a pb attempt and i said never again so this is my last marathon run so i mean here we go so i doubted and i was like i'm not letting that happen again so i fought this guy like 500 times and like to date and holding one button holding two buttons holding this button that button and there is kind of there's a strat now that we can use but it doesn't always work it doesn't work for sometimes this guy is just incredibly aggressive and there's like it happens so he's having a back given three buttons you've got block punch and kick and the strength we use is hold block and kick until he blocks with you and then you hold punch from there and block and punch and skull will just alternate between blocking and punching and uh it should technically uh yeah so yeah and now we're in this like we're in a cycle with him where he'll block now after this attack again and we'll just punch him when he comes out and we just repeat this until the end and it should be fine it's like a weird little loop that they get into somehow they get confused and uh they're probably is programmed to be very likely for them to flint uh just after a flinch well did it change again i did yeah they did twice yeah i think it's me yeah it's just like what's two minutes left for the internet was there another one there was two is it no no it was over a hundred no okay it's you okay how long did you say left we got for the incentive 50 minutes almost honestly i think yeah actually like a minute and a half for griever okay everyone last minute push if you want to see the name difference for like taco or little dive or stuff you've got about a minute left get those donations in we'll read your donations after that minute and the choice has been made come on oh he's not quite good kick him i'm gonna kick that was quite close actually yeah it was actually i guess we were swapping controller in the middle oh we've got two more i need to do one input yeah actually this is a fake input we've got to wait yeah yeah yeah it doesn't actually do anything but i will go uh so she says here very importantly quickly run to the left yeah okay so let's do that be very conscious of that be very conscious of what's actually happening in the background here you'll see a a pretty brutal maneuver happening with this guy on the motorbike you're about to see here here we go [Music] [Music] think that's everything yeah yeah we're over the 50. so next one at 300. that was a quick deal so i think i think we were now it's time yeah i think this is it for the yeah no problem i'm gonna do my very last refresh and the winner of grieva's name is matako 300 and 57.33 thank you all so so much for your incredible donations we raise about well over like seven hundred dollars for that as well i'll get an exact number for you very soon thank you very very much let's get my taco in well done everybody it's amazing it doesn't raise as much as um the blinds yeah it's great honestly yeah there is boom [Applause] and we can go for the donations now perhaps yeah we've got time we're just gonna be running her up we're gonna do a quick parody swap and then we're gonna be navigating around this garden for a few minutes getting key cards yeah okay you've got it right we've got enk with 50 dollar same fleet impossible not for these guys gl on the ffa run and we got a dragon wiz with 80 dollars saying well what's gonna get us towards 50k but heard it was reached as i was just typing this good cause and all that so let's start with 60k and then i like that idea so next goal 60k now she goes towards crash mutant over mind any percent the two players per controller we do have a few more donations coming through i'll wait for that to come through in my end and i'll read about when they come through yeah we're just two dollars short of uh i might at least get to do the party switch maybe oh okay that's what's going on i will need to do a little menu here oh yeah yeah quick menu for the old config so yeah now we're back to the garden we were in disc one which is an idea and cypher here somewhere but we can't get access to the room until we find some key cards and do a little this is casually this is actually pretty difficult yeah just because it's everything looks exactly the same it's just a bit of a nightmare i think we're switching back at the end of this too yeah i think so yeah yeah i haven't been keeping track at all about where we were planning to swap yeah there is a very very difficult skip coming up though um controller he'd be okay but i'm not sure i don't know yeah i'd be fairly not confident yeah i'll be fairly unsure that i can actually pull it off but look yeah i'm sure i'm glad it's not me who's gonna do it yeah yeah i was specifically practicing this actually earlier on so well that's a good thing yeah i i actually forgot i was kind of blocked out this was this was uh i was gonna need to do this or someone would need to do this i see i'm not sure does the rng matter the rng is probably changed now because we've been swapping for you yeah see sore so how it might it might not actually work in the way that i know when they do it after that i'll have to go there after a year a little bit back up yeah there's a backup i haven't practiced the backup oh no yeah look we can always load a save yeah we'll be fine yeah we'll we'll work around it but just you know be aware this might not necessarily go as uh as planned let's see so yeah for anyone sorry not in the looper is not familiar with the f8 run there's a very difficult skip coming up called server skip um i mean yeah it's yeah it's like you'll be able to see why it's so difficult when we do it because he's he takes off a lot of room you gotta you know getting past him was not uh so we just count the tail swings that he does yeah and the problem is that we got to do it twice so here we go we're gonna do it once there see first one there we go once again one swing two two i think it's okay that was three again yeah i'm sorry i'm worried oh you're gonna have to do the way back oh man there was two swings right two and a half half hour oh okay i'll um i better change the point can't begin in case yeah yeah yeah yeah so knowing that you gotta do that every time yeah you gotta go back to the thing um i okay i'll try okay yeah we don't have to get the drop we get mega potions oh yeah i always i always forget that that's the multiple layers to this skip that was a bit scary because it swapped controller right before yeah i know if you forgot to do the config menu but there's no way i would it would be over this will be over this round would be done done right so we'll know if the minute works when we yeah we'll do so we'll know for the minute worked if we um we get about eight megapotions so we can hold on the round of applause until then you're yeah to save here this boss is not really that scary but if um irvine crits he's got a 50 hp trigger where he does his limit breaks so if irvine quits on the first attack there's a high chance he starts using his limber break every single turn and it's not only a big time loss because he's got a big text thing he does and the camera swoops around but it takes ages and it just kills squall and wanted so hopefully it should be good so and hopefully we get the mega potion drop so let's see what happens [Music] let's see it [Music] so notice cypher's clothes are getting slightly more ragged and dirty as a it's a nice little touch it is it's good all right clean okay let's see let's see pay attention will we get eight mega potions [Music] yeah there we go come on all right [Applause] there's detailed notes how to do that in the uh ffa discard server if you want to join it figure it out i think that i think i think they took them off because they were too high level oh no one was able to do it like i mean i'm surprised that worked i decided i did not think that it's not yeah we're just fine now that we know the minute would work again yeah yeah yeah yeah this is one of the more screens in the game this one oh actually i hate it i hate it so much i was trying to make some consistent way of doing it just doesn't make sense at all i think once you've gotten off the stairs and kind of have your bearings it's it's fine but like all of this area for example this one is awful as well if anyone here thinks what button do you think i should press to walk up to the altar you'd think i'd press up no it's completely right for some reason it's a bit bonkers this is a idea does a batman entry it's the closest thing i've seen gotta make an entrance there's no point being a villain if you're not gonna which batman came down to the ceiling was it george clooney i'm not i'm not that clued up i can't remember t89 but no a batman wizard oh yeah he would there's another interesting encounter it's it's i don't really think there's much risk of dying at this boss either but there's a potential chance to lose a lot of time so we got to fight cipher again he's a bit tougher than he was last time he's actually got more vitality instead yeah um but i'm gonna yolo the the one attack first yeah that's fine [Music] easy game yep [Music] so now we are hoping that we get six yeah we need six [Music] that was a bit monkey there so that's very similar to the north fight we had earlier on yeah you need to be able to do six uh hits on that sometimes you'll get a low crisis level you only have time to do five if any of them crit then that counts as two so uh yeah uh we're quite lucky that that hit actually uh we hit the chris on that i think did you see the save at the end of the disc that's what we do on the same thing okay yeah that's good so we're gonna swap back now to cutscene remover get ready i'm just smashing and then uh if everything goes occurring the plan will switch back to any person for the final half an hour or so yeah i think we're doing pretty good on time there yeah we have like we have planned that was going to be about five hours 40 plus the incentives which are both now met so it should be close to six hours uh which hopefully will get the schedule a bit closer back to normal also why am i mashing i don't know why i was just here oh well yeah i thought i couldn't use turbo well i could yeah just for some habits holding a ds2 and mashing oh there you go turbo does not work it's interesting i thought it would oh yeah it's interesting that the uh save thing is uh and if everything worked out fine we're good to go yeah yeah are we stopping controlling now or i mean not yet are we going to the we're going to stick with the thing is it i think we had in the notes that we were going to swap now but i guess it's fine we just swap every 50 so yeah sure alright so another skip coming up here is um the sid skip uh this one is actually uh way more um just precise yeah this one is actually this one saves a lot more time than any of the ones we've previously came here this is more than two seconds um it's kind of a yellow one on pc so and i haven't used the ds2 in a while yeah there we go so what happens normally in that room is you sort of walk towards that little opening that waves went through and sid will appear and then you have to talk to him get through some dialogue before he gets out of the way and allows you to exit there is a specific trigger line across which you have to walk in order for him to actually trigger coming out of that door um and there is a very very slight gap between the end of that trigger line and the wall that you're sort of skirting around um to go around the corner uh and so there's a pretty precise bit of movement to actually get through in that very tiny little gap so that it doesn't trigger sid to actually come and talk to you uh on psx it's much easier because of the 360 movement it's much easier to actually navigate your way through that gap on pc i'm not sure is it more to do because they can walk when they do the wall thing it's not they should do it analog you do use the analog stick i think don't you no but it's misunderstood and then you like you walk up you can walk i think it's the loading time this transition oh yeah more time to react to us yeah yeah yeah you just don't have enough time to do the this loading screen is too quick so it's there no script that needs the analog um so a lot of stuff has got on there because we're back on cutscene remover uh everything just kind of is moving pretty quick here and we're back to laguna dream um it's right now yep yeah and as we go back to sleep i guess it's time for one quick message like we have a bit of time in the game lovely we've got 50 from rob draven that says played this game a lot as a kid when only one question came to mind couldn't alter macia leave well enough alone e-l-l-o-n-n-e well alone yeah yeah um i understand yeah [Laughter] thank you very much for the 50 50 donation and we again we are climbing up to that 51 000 goal now so let's get some more donations in we do have a few incentives coming up for the ghost war tokyo language choice currently in the lead 50 for german french japanese portuguese portuguese needs some love and also mary kate and ashley sweet 16 licensed to drive is currently at 360 dollars out of the 1500 need to be met let's get some push towards mary kay nationally we we all know and love that game and that series and those people oh boy what is this it didn't do anything we didn't even get a chance to explain that this mini game can actually lose it loads of time perfectly stood there and did nothing for the whole um never seen that in my life yeah so he yeah it's a ruby dragon in that minute again there's a lot of like fast attacks where uh there's nothing you can do about it and it depletes like a third of your he just decided to do nothing it just it was just afk i don't think i've ever seen it do literally nothing it didn't even it didn't even do one that you could block yeah i didn't even try to attack nothing at all oh now we get to fight it for real yes an action fight and we get the yeah we get some more some more gems almost did laguna chris i think that's what yeah that's what happened there so yeah another one where we can just utilize kiros is uh break but obviously we are very very strong at this point yeah so we can easily dispatch the ruby dragon and there's normally text after that which we see entirely as well and then now we go back to the orphanage oh no no we go to the c chip is it uh it's one uh oh it's one of the two isn't it always hard to know alone [Music] i don't know which ones of us are meaning [Laughter] we can perform the t89 letter skip but uh we haven't found a working strategy for it yet so we're actually going to get the letter yeah from the dia dude don't matter uh so yes instead of going straight to the ship you actually need to get a letter first that uh allows you access to the ship you can get on the ship without the letter but then they say go away basically uh so you have to talk to it they actually gives you a little letter to say these people are who they say they are um and then we'll finally end up on the yc chip yeah thomas 89 is nine he's a pioneer of the letter skip strat he really does try to avoid getting it at any possible he's a pioneer of many straps to be fair three fins griefing briefings i'm glad they donated to remind you as well like in quite it was all it was literally all capital letters by the way it sounded like all cups from the way you headed out yeah so this is actually another really awkward part casually to find out where the ship is but obviously since we don't we know exactly where it is and i do this strat we call it the soft bunk and we bunk into that and do that it turns you around quite nicely yeah it's brilliant i'm soph was the worst person i've seen do that it's a really nifty little stress uh so yeah here's the ship it's like hidden in the alcove it is actually genuinely really annoying to find it's really hard to find unless you know where it is like everything this dude and then yeah i can normally talk this much tim then he won't respond to any more until you have the letter and then we go over talk to him again that is that yeah he tells us that alone has already gone to iloney he's already gone to esther she's got picked up by an estarian ship and is headed over there and we want we want her help with renault because renault is now in the coma so we're going to bring renault to esther we don't know where esther is squad just says direction esther yeah and that's it we've never been there don't know where it is but let's go there please it doesn't bring any food doesn't bring any water just pick something up [Music] in here so yeah you can see like even with cutscene remover this is a bit of a downtime period of the run too but we are back straight into action very shortly and just a reminder for two dollars swap controller again all it takes all it takes for 102 you can skip vodka there you go the blood caps give us a hundred years so yeah there's normally a load of conversation here where squall starts to claim his love for oh there we go it's that easy i would based on personal experience i would recommend saving uh yes before you go to the salt lakes of course [Laughter] no i won't but here we actually do an interesting swap that's christmas what am i doing um we swap irvine and christmas uh so that now chris has actually got the really strong junctions but it's just so that when we do the next upcoming section we're going to get the xp on quistus rather than on irvine just so that we keep irvine at a lower level like we mentioned earlier on all of the enemies and bosses are plus or minus 20 of your average party level so by keeping irvine a little lower we actually uh keep the enemy's levels quite lower it's not a huge consideration it just until he's like two extra levels or something inside a big issue this is one of my favorite tracks in the game as well and unfortunately in the sp i mean this is the only area of the game it's called the salt flats because we are in the salt flats and this is the only time we actually visit uh this area so unfortunately this is the only time you really hear it in speedrun then it's gone but i think it's a really great track and this is just about where we get the tutorial to say that if you face an undead monster now yeah but the start of disc three you might want to use some curative or restorative items yeah after already killing one boss using uh that same strategy this guy is really fast and if you don't input fairly quickly it can get really nasty really quickly yeah that's fine so yeah same strategy we just use one elixir and goes down but yeah like like you saw he just his attacks are very very fast and they hit fairly hard so like two of them on one character i mean even if he'd done one of them on school that might have been enough to kill um so yeah it can be a bit scary if you're uh yeah not not doing impulse fast enough [Music] and we've learned dark side combustion is dark side which is uh that's a move that's ability that's in almost five fantasies where you do extra damage but you also damage yourself and we'll be using that mostly as a backup strat it's useful to have some of the bosses later in the game i love the s13 baseline a quick little reminder as well to any uh newer runners running the game uh this section is uh is where you have to pay very close attention to schools hp um i've seen i've seen it happen before do something actually yeah sure i've seen it happen before where uh squall got damaged in the uh abaddon fight we just had um he becomes uh as we can see now laguna in uh uh the what is now the final um laguna dream uh and so let's say he's on you know 50 hp or lower uh after that fight uh he needs to be potioned before the lagoon dream because there is now about to be a fight with just laguna on his own uh against a simple soldier and swan attack and laguna could die and that's the end of your run so uh yeah if you go it's it's it's definitely happened before and it's a bit of a tragic one to happen how many hours what's um oh yeah [Music] river uh laguna has to deal with the first enemy uh alone but then heroes and war come to help him or just a short menu to junction gears and we can go back to fighting enemies i guess but paul ward similar to what we did in the goon of dream 2 we don't really want him here so uh the uh first the first fight we uh come across we will be killing him off once again um the main point of it this time is just at the moment we've got irvin um junction uh is it over instructions are the same as uh so um uh by killing off board a it means that the atvs are easy like uh limited to just curiosity which makes the fights easier to actually fight themselves but also we don't want over to get any more experience than uh he needs to so by killing him off it just ensures he'll still get the ap um but he won't get any actual experience so because we don't want him levelling up any more than uh he needs to because we want our party as low level as possible [Music] [Music] uh as we move towards the next few fights we can listen to some donations for sure yeah you've got it does ferro247 donates 20 a dollar saying i can finally contribute good luck find a fantasy crew finally back home and i'm exhausted after these crazy days particularly last night i was a little worried going to the event alone this time but you made it all so worth it these three days have been too short for all the great fun i had thank you all so much and see you in 20 23 less than free and they adhere to the call they put that twenty dollars towards mary kay and ashley's sweet sixteen license to drive so it's climbing up we got t-89 back once again with eight dollars and eighty-nine cents they're saying very funny i hope irvine doesn't die to grieve her and that's going towards to kill michael choice of the 80 of gta 5. thank you very much for those donations i think we just had another one come in as well we did indeed zero kieran with thirty dollars no comments but going towards crash mine of a mutant any percent two players per controller thank you very much for those donations back to you guys thank you everyone thank you pharaoh the three days definitely have not been enough i'll see you in winter i guess hopefully [Music] [Music] so this those uh those two fights we just did uh a little bit trickier um i have to make sure we sort of use the right person to kill the right monster otherwise it's a that that luster in particular can do some crazy stuff uh but these fights were a little bit more straightforward just attacking some basic soldiers in order to try and rescue a learning from her prison [Music] yes it's really put into perspective now that the events of with laguna are 17 years previous yeah well there makes a match not all of them are this one is from when alone was a little child and now that we've met alone we can kind of piece it together i keep saying alone even though i know what's that on it i'm so very bad i say it i've always said alone nice yeah [Laughter] uh well i've heard a really controversial one because i'm obviously it's lifting to the every fnff podcast ff7 at the moment and cat sit it's not called katsu they bring it's kitschy [Laughter] there we go some no no one likes ken no one likes history only one person that does mr musky one character bad character does nothing for the whole run just [Music] literally spies on them and says yes i'm spying on you but there's nothing you can do awful character sorry that skipped us skipped the sequence skipped all the intro to esther so we're now in esther yep um we have dropped rinoa off to dr oden who's the guy with the interesting color and we are getting quite close to the ester menu it is almost hyperclock so we will be pausing the uh the unwritten incentive of 50 swap controller as olson will be performing the smu blindfolded because we've met that in center party yeah i'm pretty excited about that yeah it's gonna be good i am not i mean i've put multiple hours into practicing that so i guess it's good i get to file that on stream now the stage [Music] [Music] uh story-wise we are sending uh tifa into space because they're supposed to cure their hair there somehow i don't understand why but they haven't told us yet in space okay they just said yeah go to this area and you'll it'll be fine i think all they've told us is we're going to bring you two alone yes and they just tell us where she is it happens to be that just before that's where she is uh sort of an unreleased demo of gran turismo it's a little bit sketchy yeah a little bit sketchy uh so we're making over our way to this thing that interesting looking yeah believe it or not is a space uh base center those those weird things that were jutting out from that building are going to fire people into space very interesting device [Music] there is a soft lock here but i think it is psx only i think so too requires movement yeah but i think like if you move into your spot before the you building the code basically moves into his position you just not lock i'm not mistaken so you enter over here and it's this this moment the uh the scientist says and so that's what that's what it means to go to space and you're like you've got an option of going what you haven't mentioned that whatever it takes so we uh choose second option twice here and then we pick christmas to go with us to space for a few reasons we want irvine to be out of the party so that he's hp uh doesn't change i think he said i can't remember um yes he's currently at one hp because he was watered previously and he was incapacitated and when he got resurrected he's at one hp and we're going to give him one portion of the star menu which will put him a 201 which is perfectly safe to tank one hit from the upcoming boss and it keeps him as low as possible to get a better crisis level and then selfie we want to bring with us to esther so that we can also kill her so that she did for the bosses coming up so that um we get a higher crisis level by having one dead party member as well and on that we if there's anything to be read or said uh this is probably the last chance before the blindfold blindfolded incentive sounds like a plan we've got eight dollars and eighty-eight cents from a mart that says good luck to waves bod cap and olsen but you didn't do the irish jig i know whatever what is the quarter of it what more do you want for whatever thank you very much for the donation and back to you guys good luck on the blindfolded segment of this run thank you very much thanks thank you cheers it was i did that right [Music] you could have magically got an encounter here that's what it would have happened i haven't done the uh config which is why i'm a bit confused uh i'd probably just leave it i'm gonna leave it that's why well i think when we load the save it'll be fine in here that's true that's awesome so alton is currently preparing there will be a blindfold so for anyone who doesn't know if you've seen the final fantasy run in the past you'll probably know what you're saving yep well i guess there isn't a whole bunch of justice yeah um this is by far it's like the party piece as no other one people love watching this it's a five-minute segment where we've just got five minutes to waste so we get all of the menu we can do done in this five minutes uh we get some shopping done and it junction up all the party for the rest of the game and we also want to do two encounters so that we can learn two three abilities we want ammo refine uh we want to set that learning sorry we want to learn stats and magic refine and we also want to learn initiative so we're going to learn all those within this section and it's an impressive menu with your eyes open yes um yeah being blindfolded is another matter say we're missing actually paste it again in a minute is it it's going what's possible if i keep going you you i think it actually was i wait here i'm talking okay it's very in okay oh it's because you saved it's cloud saved oh [Music] um so yeah i think we so from this point just for the marathon safety of doing this we're going to the staff reset um which will retain everything and then we're going to just load a safe just so some of the items are in the exact same place so there it is yeah perfect and and just click one button here and hand it over to [Music] correct just gonna check if the flip is correct should be fine i guess yeah and check that cancel cancel good luck yeah please do that okay good luck free go back excuse me i know i know i don't know is it back i think that's it yeah i just like around a bit too far before yeah the encounter before the menu how is it always just about you can only tell which character it is by um what the sound effect it makes when they hit him and selfie is the only one who cannot kill someone here so [Music] yeah the issue is atp's around them at the start so i cannot tell who is who and it's quite important that we draw haste from this uh this boss in this fight nice [Music] we made it somehow longest here okay that makes sense quickly [Music] [Music] [Music] sleep [Music] [Music] why can i not count to five three quick i think i messed up in there but it's whatever wait [Music] sleep [Music] like quickly what did i do wrong so 1445 is bad i could do like 14 15. it was like 30 seconds too low i think it was fine i think it was absolutely fine i can do it faster so well done it's every time i say it's like i just don't really know why like how that's possible it's just so much stuff to remember like exact amounts of like inputs and stuff it's insane the only thing i think is like like elixir isn't at the top of the machine that's it that's fine it's fine yeah yeah everything else is at the top absolutely perfect but yeah like it is difficult to do this within five minutes even like when you can see what you're doing actually so i'm getting six and a half is nice i think uh just this right that i guess we can go back to the 50 dollar thingy yeah yeah we can now yeah i enjoy playing the game for once so i guess we can keep it like that yeah i hope everyone enjoyed that because that was amazing really spectacular [Applause] like the thing is there is a lot of things in the menu that you can do that actually killed their aunt so i'm glad i didn't do that yeah if you delete your triples delete encounter none delete initiative there's a load of things you could do and all that was well avoided just to make a mistake and a tiny item arrangement optimization that was it it's incredible i guess now we have the time to like explain what we even do in the menu yeah actually i was actually like thinking in the middle of that if i start talking now you'll just lose track away yeah yeah yeah uh just quickly there's a little space skip here uh you can this is actually a skip that you can do casually you normally have to wait until everyone falls gravity comes back on you go to the ground then you go pick up renault and then leave the door but if you just hold right you actually just leave and you and you've already gone around yeah so that's a small skip there we're just gonna do some running around here at space um meet lna and then go figure out that the lunar cry is about to occur so in the menu there um we bought some scrolls in the shop to teach uh some abilities hpg and strength junctions yeah yeah to the some of the things you saw everyone now is junctioned just enough that they can do 100 damage to the final boss if they need to apart from questions yeah we're just going to avoid her yeah anyway um so that's like the main thing that we needed to do uh just so that when you're in the final phase you just have to hit the boss five times it has to do over 100 damage so we can all do that a lot of the item or the magic arrangement that was done is another like optional uh optimization that you can do final boss and all the phases of it can like just draw your spells from you and use them on you or they can just blow them away entirely so you just have no spell so we put the important spells in specific locations where they won't be blown away uh because there is actually a script that it uses a bit of logic to find out which ones it wants to blow away and besides that i think that was kind of it really that's the majority of it they're just reset for in-game like pretty much yeah yeah making sure everyone's junctioned everyone's got enough strength um yeah that's that's that's most of what we're doing but it's just it takes a lot of uh a lot of inputs to actually get all of that like set up and ready but you know the benefit of it being such a long menu and us having so much time to actually get everything done is that there's very very little menuing and very very little we have to do to set up now from here until the very end of the game like we've done pretty much everything we need to do we're as strong as we're going to be um yeah we're in-game ready yeah and also like part of that menu is not even strictly necessary it just saves like a couple seconds here and there and we do it because we have time for it basically yeah like might as well go for it why not for example the item rearrangement it's mostly convenience yeah even the amnesia greens besides three of them is pretty optional as well it takes a few inputs later yeah yeah it's essentially just for a similar reason that we don't uh teach dfs um we we make dfs stop learning abilities once they've done all the abilities they need to we're like uh is the reason for that is we don't want their pop-ups to come up at the end of battles we're um like removing abilities from js because we know that they will learn them in the future if we leave them there so we get rid of them for them and there's also like one menu where it just removes a bunch of abilities that we've learned that we did need in the past and we no longer need any more that means the one that we do need is going to be at the top of the list so it just saves like four down inputs or something but it's all very like minor optimizations but you have time for it i can't do this room properly there's no way for me to do it i'm gonna go ahead and say this is the worst room in the game it's up there it's up there for sure it's also very skewed uh like the way you need to control the room yeah movement just makes no sense so here's another thing you're supposed to casually chase for noah out into space here um and then the door closes behind you it's too late and then you need to come back but you can just wait here by the entrance until a certain text box appears and then you just come back i quite like the fact that we have to wait around on this one though i think this is pretty pretty cool that's good yeah okay this is the bomb song [Music] shout out to bambam the ff9 psx world record ruler that songs for you that's actually the president of esther there that just got dragged away because what is that could be what could it be yeah i wonder and they also wanted to uh rescue alone he thought she was still upstairs oh there's one more potential soft lock spot well there's actually there's two or three coming but this this one is immediate so um as we're entering the escape pod here because the space station is about to be caught up in the whole lunar tear or the cry they're gonna cry oh yeah this is something we haven't mentioned there are monsters coming from the moon yeah and they're a big monster pimple burst and it's now firing down towards the earth what's what's the planet called in this game i don't think they give a name just let's call it an old guy so yeah we walk on the screen because you can actually enter that place where elona is standing right now before her and if you do you just trapped her she's constantly trying to get in and you're in her way but you can't get out because she's trying to get in so it's uh so we're actually skipping loads of stuff there it's it's actually amazing floating in space yeah yeah no here we are we're just catching vanilla jan will be screaming at her uh pc at home saying don't catch up don't say photography i mean i mean no we need to leave some time for omega weapons that's true let's just do it yeah yeah we're just five dollars away from another controller swap yeah if you want what kind of fine i'll be able to play the game again and it'd be we should spend a while we should have planned this to give you this bit for space and then just just take a mistake i don't know the pity swap putting a bit more central you've got to make sure so in the cutscene remover um uh category if you're if you're actually running it and trying to you know go do it all in one go with the full remover this is the longest breaking quotes of the game because once you've got her in the center of your screen you've got until the timer runs out basically for uh and not have to do it um you might want to go for a toilet break yeah if if if that's you know what you need to do um yeah yeah and that always works yeah that always works 100 definitely she definitely doesn't just like fly just as fast just here definitely never happened no that's i mean no not on pvp should i do save after the fourth yeah well what i was doing is um save after the fifth so just open the door out the green one we have 100 auras and we will have magic anyway oh yeah that's true we don't need that at all oh yeah you'll have magic going into the final boss and you know that is a very good point oh yes since we definitely do the end on the final bosses or everyone and let's go everyone yeah so here's another um kind of interesting puzzle where you just have to kill these things in pairs um it's fairly easy but there's also a pity but there's there is a pity skip that we don't we don't utilize this time yeah i think if you kill 25 25 of them in any order they all just die yeah he goes okay we realize you haven't figured out what you're meant to do here but luckily we are um able to dispatch them in one one hit these guys are very very very fast as well they have one of the highest speed stats of any of the monsters in the game and uh the problem that i can cause is that right now we are on um zero percent battle speed we have initiative on school so he always has to turn straight away um and even still sometimes they can get a turn in before school does it's crazy because their speed stat is just so ridiculous something we haven't actually mentioned as well about the ffa community there is a rando there's a randomizer for the for the game yep sleepy bunny cv bunny shout out to cv um and this section because if you notice every single one of these propagators has the boss team going they all count as bosses so this in the randomizer is just a complete yeah mayhem so i killed both the purples now we're doing the greens but the really interesting ones i mean it's not as much of a problem for us because you know we've uh but this one for the relay safety security yes actually if you just hold down and open the door don't go in the door what i mean i'll show you what i mean no you didn't do it oh what do you mean now yeah and that's great oh right if you open that door because then you don't have to save after the first raid because you can't go back this way yeah the red ones are the most important ones because they have a i think 70-ish percentage um chance to drop an aura stone uh and we we don't need but we almost need uh to get an aura stone for the final uh the final boss and it's a really really important item uh and there are two of these so we've got two 70 chances uh hopefully they should drop here but yeah so we should get a drop but if we don't then we do have a backup let's just see don't forget norris done [Music] oh ultimate ah there we go i'm not even at all is this the rng that you're convinced if i do one refresh at the start of the next one uh i tried it lately and it didn't work for me okay who knows sure do it now you should keep running down over to the end okay uh as we are dealing with propagators it is definitely a good time for us yeah yeah go for it go for it absolutely i want to talk about the charity that we are raising money towards which is save the children they are actively doing a lot of work in ukraine and in other conflict zones around the world they work to provide mental health support for terrified children and their families support mothers with baby feeding and pregnant mothers with baby arrival kits they set up child friendly spaces where children can play and recover from traumatic experiences that they have been through they also help to establish safe passages to get food other supplies in the most affected areas and to provide child protection services to ensure children and their families remain together and that separated children are reunited safely with their caregivers this is a very important charity they do so much good all over the world any amount that you guys give goes towards a fantastic cause one dollar five dollars ten dollars a hundred dollars a thousand dollars we've already raised fifty thousand dollars already this event that is an incredible amount of money raised all of your money can do so much good to a many if you have anything to give please exclamation mark donating a chance are links in the panels there are many bit incentives that you can put your money towards plea andy prizes to win as well prizes.esa marathon.com have a look at some of the awesome prizes like the infamous and hard to find playstation fives that you can win for a minimum of an accumulative 100 donation that's all it is you can get yourself a chance to win a ps5 back to you perfect so for the disappointment of some people we actually skipped the entire cockpit of the ragnarok where the izami song gets played but we probably did yeah uh we actually probably did have time but we were being i thought i didn't change it we didn't change it um so unfortunately there will be no eyes on me i mean i guess if the schedule will be fine and like allows it we could try to oh we could maybe flash forward we have time at the end we will see like when we end again yes uh use the high speed function to get to the actual song in the credits why am i matching because it's fun that's enough it's not fun [Music] this is eyes on me now it's the same yeah this is eyes on me but just one of the many versions of it so we're now in a situation where um we've come back from space everyone has been taken away because she's now become a sorceress so school was just like yeah okay off you go and now everyone's saying you're you're an idiot we need to go get back so we just immediately go and get her back um and then essentially we're just gonna be doing a little flight quest you know from point to point talking to various people having various conversations um uh doing a little menu here in there until this is one of the ones we could have put the any percent back in briefly for but it's i think we're gonna do it um i know we could have got this cutscene remember everything oh i know it looks like you know let's keep going i think i think the really exciting one is uh so we're just running around if there's a donation to read by all means there is indeed zayden comes back with thirty dollars saying hey guys aidan here again good job of nailing the blindfolded star menu olsen great runner so far so since you didn't buy pet powers in timber and you have enough time could you save uh eda's house and pet the dog we love to pet dogs in games right i mean i know i do so i i'm i'm kind of i'm with david here can you uh that's cruel i actually think we could do that we could pet the dog i think we could just just crowd want us to pet the dog should we pet the dog come on please just do it don't even save yeah okay okay fantastic sure something before i might do one thing just before we do that yeah that donation goes towards the ghostwater tokyo 80 language choice for german which i think is now at eighty dollars whilst the other languages do need some love so again get your money in for some donation incentives and some bid incentives thank you very much back to you guys thank you girlfriend because i didn't yeah um shout out i think uh shout out to some of the other ffa runners i don't know if zidane is doing the germany stream but pingvel i think said was doing the japanese restream and ciphertv who made the cutscene mod said he was doing the russian restream so shout out to those guys so let's do a little bit of a menu here oops we're finding all the ammo and then i want to do an old saveroo but for no reason for no particular reason i want to do a little save here so we can maybe potentially pet a dog yeah so i'm going to go in here i'm going to turn on turbo um and i'm going to do i talk to her first no no no just let the dog i think it's all after them oh my god the issue on csr it might not let you on csr though oh no no you will you will be able to okay i interact with the dog okay try talking to her now i think this is yeah is it not doing anything oh no there it is wait a second no i'm not sure no i think it's later i think uh it's here it'll be one parent uh okay if betting the dog did in fact you know what we think it did oh it didn't didn't also sorry zayden yeah well no no we pet yeah we did indeed pet the dog but it did not soft lock the game yeah so that's what we were yeah so that's what sardine is uh alluding to is that yeah talking to a um cat the game um dude you won't save after oh yeah lagoona thing yeah um yeah so if you if you talk to angelo he kind of gets stuck in a in a position near the loading section of that screen um which basically means that after you finish so if you do it accidentally you realize you've done it you've got to go through the whole conversation you have with renault and zell and everything like that and then you find you literally can't exit the screen because angelo's sort of off almost on screen but in the way blocking your path so yeah petting the dog is more dangerous than it sounds in this case we did pet the dogs but we put it and it was fine our into the bargain was was kept so typically there would be encounters here esther has now been flooded with monsters but we have encountered none so we're okay i was just gonna say this before uh well we were talking about pegging the dog there was a very small menu that um waves did uh beforehand which uh uh does one of the final um uh refining actions that we need to do which is uh we we learned ammo refine from ifrit during the propagators fights so we're using that to basically create uh because the whole way through the run so far we've only been using normal ammo and shotgun ammo but they're not really powerful enough for the end game uh as strong as irving is uh we need some stronger stuff so uh we have now refined uh some demolition ammo some apmo and some fire ammo and we'll be using those in the final bosses so we were summoned to esther by a guy called kiros and we're like no way there's no way that the president is here it turns out laguna is the current president of esther holland yeah with his two sidekicks oh excellent so odin comes in there is a text box we need to or a text option we need to this is love this is one of the bad ones as well um he asks if you want to hear his explanation of basically why we say like yeah why everything is happening right now ain't nobody got time for that and yeah we just say no i think that's like 30 seconds yeah it's just a lot of extra time love the ester music and it has like these random squeaks and chicken noises in the background just to make it sound really far and weird it's definitely a vibe yeah but like but i vibe reminds me of the black mage village where they got that cacao yes yeah it sounds like something like a monkey yeah like yeah it's the weird sort of honking noise so we're going to swap back i don't know if one of the boys wants to get the files ready for 80 percent i'm going to do quick save drop down here save don't interact with that yes just yet and i'm just going to do a quick save and we're going to put back in some fmvs just for the last stretch show you done done yeah go for it okay let's do it remove the mouse obviously so here we go we're back on actual any percent uh so we get the full ps5 graphics of uh the ragnarok breaching the lunar battery this is some of the coolest fmvs though fun fact my disc 3 froze here when i was a kid yeah so yeah did you get cause he couldn't get faster yeah yeah and i would say ragnarok is like the best ship in all of the series it's so good and the theme for it is also amazing what other ships have arms yeah well you don't know it's got arms until now hey this this whole ship's just got hands look at it and here they are i mean when they designed this what 17 years ago and they left it floating in space white how did they know it was going to be so useful right now so the quickest thing to do here you're meant to actually like run through the ragnarok and to actually get to this point and leave um but actually uh it's quicker to just say oh we actually want to take off and then to fly back in again and you just come straight back out here but this is what we generally call we refer to as the boss rush uh because pretty much we've gone through all of the pretty heavy dialogue um sections uh all the the main fmvs are done uh we are now just fighting bosses until the end of the game and there's quite a lot of them um there's there's quite a few of them before we even get to the final dungeon of the game um uh so this fight is the reason that we refined fire ammo we used that there it's a very powerful uh aoe um uh ammo for urban summit break you can do two or three of those and putin and why didn't go down we get to see two familiar faces in not the screen the next screen yes indeed lately i've been forgetting the screen even exists yeah you're holding left but i don't live we can see a couple of soldiers in the corner here lamenting their life um who are big some wedge from disc one and two and i think they left the military by this point right or something or at least they plan to i think yeah maybe i think this is the most obnoxious left input yeah there's a whole left that's not about that that's holding left to go that in that direction because ff8 yeah ff7 has some janky screens too please it's not like a fifth anywhere if you keep holding direction during the screen transition and things happen on the next screen and you go with like i feel like in f10 if you can just hold it then you're like going like a different direction like something completely different from what you would like to do it's cool music too money gonna do a quick save here just because this boss can be a bit of a meanie as well if you're unlucky it's um fine but we'll just cover all the bases i think this is one of the bosses that kind of looks a lot scarier than it is because we're purposely in uh quite low hp on all of our characters um and typically we would have one character stuffy would be dead yeah and uh she's not right now but uh irvan will be a 201 which he is so he can take one hit from another criticism from mt8 and then squall is just enough that he won't die if he has to use darkseid because we need four shots here and depending on what the limit break we get might only get three but this looks okay we'll get the four shots that we need to kill mt8 i think this is the first point in the game that we started in code nines to yeah the bosses as well and just after this fight we're gonna be approaching the throne room i guess at the control room or the it's the wheelhouse of the of the lunatic pandora yeah and we've got a little cutscene with fujian rajan and cipher so if there's a donation there is a bit of time you've got it let me just do a quick refresh we have 25 from jay saying i love final fantasy 8 lesson three loving this run and that goes towards the american nationally sweet 16 a license to drive incentive honestly where we're at right now with that we are currently at 405 out of 1500 to go thank you very much for the donation and back to you thanks very much uh so yeah here this is the point where fujian and ryzen who had been cipher's posse for the whole game um they decided okay we just you know what we've heard that we've had enough of this we've had enough cut it out and fusion stops talking in one word caps she's actually speaking probably meant to be quite a poignant yeah i think yeah she's only ever done capitalized like single words and now she's speaking in sentences and you'll see again this is probably the most obvious time is that cipher's jacket is completely shredded and yeah he's really done they don't really delve into it quite enough but like it's kind of to be understood that cypher was actually being mind controlled by ultimate shell until now of some sort he wasn't doing this of his own [Music] find and just as ever cipher is a really difficult boss that dies in one attack yet again yeah this time he though he can drop a holy war so for the final boss section we have two guaranteed drops that we can get throughout the run from cipher 2 and now where you can get a hero drop which makes one character invincible for a period of time but there's also a very low percent chance that we can get a holy war which makes all three characters invincible together which um makes the final phase a bit quicker yeah i think the chance is like 10 there are two fights around i think i think it's 10 over each fight oh yeah he's fine yeah yeah yeah and it does save like 30 seconds perhaps in final fight so it's good to get let's see what happens did we get it i'll turn after this actually nope i haven't seen that in a while actually it's because you're not a new runner the new runners always always get that my first four runs i ever did i got three holy wars and then i didn't get one for about six months um right and coming up i guess we can start talking about the final party minute yep and what we're going to be doing or achieving so i've got a little piece of software here that we're going to be using for that where um there is a cutscene about to happen and we're going to be uh similar to how we had a look at the poles that were flying past the window earlier on in the run to know what the caraway code is we're going to be looking at the cutscene and some specific movements are having during that cutscene to work out um what or what we need to do in order to um guarantee a particular final party um for the final battle because uh those of you who have paid final fantasy casually know that there is a uh when you you know there are six characters in the party uh and when the final battle starts it chooses three of them at random uh but we can manipulate which ones those are basically because as we've been demonstrating irving is kind of the ghost yeah we need him in the final party otherwise it is not really possible to beat that fight with our current setup so we need to manipulate him to be in that final fight and we'll be doing it by looking at her there's a there's a very trippy section here where there's a cutscene where they're flying through time compressed space and all this kind of stuff happening if you look closely at squall he's kind of looking downwards and falling but he's doing movements short movements he's like a forward or a back or a left or a right and each one of those we do we track 12 of those and that will tell us exactly what like index we're on and uh where we are in the rng at this particular point and then we have methods where we can increase that rng by specific amounts um which we can go through later but this is the part where we're basically finding out where we are and then later on we'll manipulate it to actually uh be on the correct party are we not manipulating it in the f v no we can just do draws there it's up to you twenty times why do you need to take off twelve we'll find out how many is for like if it's 14 just do two for example yeah yes oh yeah okay that's what i mean yeah yeah that's fine okay so i'm gonna not touch the well once we master this text i'm not going to touch the controller let the game decide which movement squall is going to make and then on the 12th movement so that his 13 movement will be defined by me the rng will be frozen because as long as i'm holding a a direction that he can move so that is the plan we will see what we get watching closely [Music] it's before part of the cutscene is longer than i thought it was yeah i didn't really like the thing yeah i was just expecting it to happen i think i was i was still in the sort of the cutscene remover mode right uh we [Music] here we go here we go so we're all taking it down just out of safety just in case you're here bad guys putting it directly in but i'm just gonna write it down so here we go one two eight ten 11 and 12 both okay i think anything um i'm not sure either because i think i missed that one but i put in the five there been something change settings that's probably what it might be no copy and paste it into the website yeah trying to website maybe so what we've learned from that is um we're really bad we don't actually we don't actually have to do a manipulation we'll we will just get irvin in the final party which is quite nice um so what the way we would have done it there's there's a couple of different options um we have one where during that fmv you can kind of release it back to me anyways yeah yeah so you can kind of release the button that we're holding to freeze the rng to like let it happen for as many as we need we can also interact with the draw point later on and each time we interact with it uh i'll i'll do this first oh yeah and the reason this works is because the rng does not change in the ultimate castle anymore at all except for the very final screen before the before the fight but on that screen we simply hold forward so on that screen the rng would always change in the same way that's why we know exactly where we are and what we need to do in order to get the irvine party i'm not sure who originally found this but i'm going to describe a ping val probably if in doubt credit likely he knows he knows the ins and outs of this game like no one else does really so this is one of the more trivia boss fights and we'll kind of explain what's going on i think you want the longer fights as well yeah again and it's one of the ones that can go badly as well which is why we saved just beforehand a bit rng heavy um so basically irvine is the only one that can really kill these guys and we're going to just make irvine super powered um the reason that this fight actually is so i should have explained this is more difficult is that for some reason on pc and on jp the source sources are all level locked to 45 which is astronomically higher than any level we are so if you play this on ntsc psx version the ps2 and placing disk um they are just your average level as normal like they are so they all go down really really easy but for some reason there's they're just level 45 which is way stronger than we are so what we need to do is we're going to cast berserk status onto irvine so he's not going to take any atb inputs from us he's just going to attack wildly and he's going to do more damage because of that and then we cast haste on him so he's super fast and his legs go really fast here if you look yeah look at his little zoomer and uh he's just gonna let loose and attack them all as quick as you can and that works for the first 10 is it yeah six and four uh yeah yeah so there's six blue ones and four red ones the red ones are more powerful and uh you can't hit you can't hit them in one shot without the berserk that's what the best is really useful for the blue ones it's also not guaranteed nice grip yeah there's twelve percent chance you won't kill one open circle so yeah we're gonna let irvine go loose until the end and then the final sorcerer c will appear which is much bigger sorcerers and for that sorceress we're gonna have to we need irvine to limit the problem is that he's going to be currently in berserking haste so we're going to just our one with squall and then resurrect him immediately with selfie and then as soon as the atp is ready we just limit break it can go a bit it can be a bit scary uh especially for new runners it's like a real the problem point because if you give the sorcerer's too long she just casts ultimately ultimately basically you wind basically i don't think i've ever seen her cast on tomorrow and the run not be dead so that's a fairly scary sorceress because that one we just killed can cast quake on the party this is the scariest one because it can cast meteor so we really want irvin to uh get his atv filled before she does this is really the yeah and that's fine it's relatively rare because ervin's so fast he's got a high speed slap and he's been hasted so it's rare that you do see the meter but when it does happen it's it's all destroying so this is the last red sorceress and then the scary sorceress is about to ride yeah why is swells adb is a bit low you could um do a dead stone on or oven yeah i got one get one it might listen and then you raise what's called [Music] oh it works way more fun and then always there already uh offer itself here [Music] okay [Music] we're good that could have been scary yeah you might have been holding adb or not do something for the third one or the second one the second red one sometimes that can happen if you don't let adb flow but the adb freezes once yeah maybe years i don't think i don't think it was holding anything but yeah yeah i'm not sure we got through yeah so we have a bit of time for any last donations and stuff okay absolutely got you covered we've got fifty dollars from fumble sitting in the front row holding the baguette on its lap that's just throwing it full face thank you for the 50 and the ulta maven with five dollars saying let's expand contract eon become instant throw wide the gates and that five dollars is going towards the german language choice from ghost wire tokyo for the any percent thank you very much back to you thank you very much i think it'll be cool if we could get a 51k 51k will be absolutely achievable let's push to get 51k by the end of this game twitch chat can we do it let's go i think we should uh i don't know do we want to still do any swapping at 50s or at this point controller swapping that's up to you i don't know let's see how we go yeah we'll see what we'll get to if people are donating yeah i'm stopping i think that's the way it's going to be [Music] we should have done a five dollar train and swap for fives again we could still do it to get us to we can still do if you don't want to but every five we could swap yep we can get a five dollar train going all right i am gonna save here five dollar hype train twitch chat and there's just a continual controller swap let's go i'm down for this let's go we've seen so if we rip here it'll be fine yeah yeah we are very very very close to the end of the game we should definitely be coming in under six softly we do have one incentive left to uh fulfill our duties um which we'll be doing in about ten minutes so here in the ultimate castle is a bit of a gimmick you divide the party into two teams and if all of your abilities are locked when you're into the castle so you only have attack and every time you defeat one of the uh every time you defeat one of the bosses within the castle there's twelve of them you can unlock an ability so you can't even they're like magic item limit breaks revive even you can't even revive a character within the castle um so we're just gonna typically in any run we just need item and we just need limit break but because we're going doing the incentive for um the incentive for the mega weapon so normally you just scoot past this guy it's really easy to get past him i'm actually gonna fight in there so then we don't normally kill this guy but uh but right now the only thing we have is attack the only thing we can do is attack so we're going to attack [Music] selfie doesn't really do much but we're kind of deciding oh and i run away as well that's the first accidental runaway because these bosses in this uh in this uh in this castle like you could randomly attack one without being ready to kill it uh you're actually able to flee from all the bosses in the castle i guess another book doesn't does it again if nico has something to say it's a great time yep i can talk about some of the prizes that you lot can win at like i think it's a minimum of ten dollar um donation again the cumulative over the course of this entire marathon the 15 you get like a great amount of pin sets that you can win from castlevania to sonic to legend of zelda jack frost garfield pokemon there's so many cool things you can win minimum 20 donation you can get some plushies from binding of isaac you can get a crash controller phone holder you can get a metal hades poster there's just so many things prizes.esa marathon.com have a look see what you can get for the cumulative minimum amount and put your money towards a fantastic cause what do i need to unlock uh limit limit okay five dollar donation coming in that just says hi here we go keep it going that's from zip sleeve thank you very much for the five dollars keep them coming five dollar is a controller swap every five dollar you donate controller swap we actually do get 51k that's quite a lot let's just see how we go so what do we need to unlock limit limit okay yeah just to mention i have no idea how to do a mega weapon i don't know if well no we're gonna give it back to vodka for that yeah yeah yeah but like i don't even know the setup so like if you guys want to create chaos that's a great opportunity this is a great opportunity for chaos i just have no idea what we have to do in the castle this thing this one this one this one yeah there you go [Music] there we go it's it's difficult enough for us to uh yeah to change this every time no okay yeah okay try point let's go well buddy all pal try point [Music] this is one of the important ones that we do fight in the 80s route that drops an item called supersonic which teaches speed plus 40 percent to one of our gifs and we need that desperately to fight ultimate at the end just to outspeed her [Music] [Music] you guys are no fun it's faster do you swear i'm not one fire ammo kills so did evan not have any three he's only got attack his limit nobody like item oh he doesn't menu maybe we should probably add that we should probably i asked if i did everything correctly it's only item i thought you did that item yeah i mean it definitely did so that's weird [Music] check the other three maybe scholars i don't know they're [Music] to zell and then leave the castle or for our journey yeah yeah yeah change members no no no no no the top option yeah then just leave go down yep and then enter again because you'll be small now oh that's the quickest way to get it yeah and then go upstairs but turn right at the top if you donate another 10 you can skip vodka and go back to someone else yeah yeah okay we'll just be explaining how this works go down and then door to the right and then round and through the door at the back on the bottom floor you have to go up left here it's weird i remember the screen from honda yeah so yeah go through the door at the back uh go through the door at the back and then go through the door at the back down down the stairs i remember this little uh dungeon looking room and then go through the door on the left and that's a red giant and for a pm this is the chaos he wanted uh get the key at the bottom and he'll appear yeah there you go oh i've never been here before [Laughter] 40 pm yeah four apples again here we go you can actually do some stuff so yeah yeah he's not like [Laughter] no i mean you'll have initiatives you'll be fine [Music] perfect easy it's three oh and this maybe it won't get the uh they've got three dollars do a buffer and then do it again basically exactly the same as oh that was enough that's fine easy 47 dimensional easy peasy it's basically the tml oh i've actually remembered this from hondo yeah that was actually the strat yeah use three and just attack with zelda that does attacks five swaps ah there we go uh wait for an input yeah we'll just get you over the castle and save yeah yeah yeah and then you give it back for five swaps um i've done the input magic magic yeah that's three four how do i get out of here uh go the back the door you came in yeah there you go then it's back to kev yeah yeah yeah it's right to me there we go i leave this door are we are we good now are we good now i think we're up to date now with uh we've swapped everything so i do that is i do this again do as much as you can before we get it yeah leave the castle uh i'm now going to save and do a menu so this is basically the normal ending menu but there's some extra stuff because we're fighting a mega weapon uh i'm first going to change the config settings uh there we go so we are going to do this uh that's supersonic the rocket engine we mentioned oh yeah potions back there put this drink our speed was very on irvine and what do i need to do with you uh something yep [Music] cool and now i am going to go on my way so we can listen to some donations i guess well yeah there's anything right that's going to be running towards a mega weapon now so go for it absolutely deniable credibility donates five dollars saying change places that goes towards american ashley sweet 16 license to drive incentive and then an anonymous 25 donation no comment but thank you very much for the donation so i think we're up to date with the swaps right yeah i think we're good lovely keep those donations coming in don't forget five dollars is a controller swap keep them coming [Music] i am i'm gonna have to listen kind of carefully now so one of the things that uh zell does here is um the reason we've got his party is you have to pull this lever to sort of ring a bell and that summons a mega weapon but the bell's gonna start ringing and i have to wait for the 13th bomb one two three four five six seven [Music] [Music] and we're set up for a mega weapon logan may go up and hype here we go what i hope this there is it is i guess whatever it is i'm going to go in concentration mode if you guys want this so we found the easiest way to do this in a marathon setting is going to be control potion on omega weapon which resets its adb and just cancels its next turn and then with selfie we're gonna use aura and uh we're going to try to use selfies limit break which is called the end which is the kill all anything on screen works on every boss in the game well that's unfortunate did we not uh oh is it on someone else oh might be on someone else yeah because we didn't switch after the sr menu i think but it might be on that thing someone else might have it chaos that's an interesting development uh we can software reset their society yeah yeah because it's uh just stuff you have there we literally just saved i'll check do you want to just do the old get selfie to cast uh or on herself with with slots like oh we could do she doesn't have it so she'll have to do aura sorry just try it try it we might uh irv that's fine okay no he's not yeah yeah right so i'll do this proportion and use oh she's ah she's oh she's she might be left now yeah she's level 10 i think maybe hold on does this work at level 10 [Music] oh no probably not i thought she was little ease i'm going to reach i'm going to stop you sir yeah do stuff reset and we'll see what's going on we'll see if we can find the auras in the you drew them oh yeah but that was a different safe yeah we need to do some quick uh quick fix maybe yeah see just let's check the characters see if someone has let's go through their magic faces i think that they might have wait it's junctioned on there revit has it okay just give them to school yeah okay um we don't know if sophie can do thing at level 10 though can you issue level 10 is that works not sure if that works either i think it's eight and nine it's nine or lower yeah can we do a quick fix yeah i think quick fix on the fly yeah we can we can get this to work don't you worry you've passed the memory stick that's plugged in there selfie is the problem is the selfie is now too good she's too strong so it's not ideal uh so we can do a quick save editor here and just change this around um there you go no it's not that action if you have some messages every time which i'll have to save today is that my weapon save no let's use the one that we had already the other one i've changed already change it again oh wait i didn't you just saved yeah yeah i guess i will i'll leave the running i'll leave the music going because this is one thing we haven't talked about on that memory stick that memory is it i don't know no it's not no that would have done this as well this one it's not there what it did not show up wait wait a second i just put high on that thing and just do it all on the one pc i'll be easier [Music] where is this here that's something okay and then i can fix it on that one pc rather than swapping things again that's probably easier i promise you this will be worth it we will defeat omega weapon uh okay this let's actually reset this then oh yeah you'll need we're going to start for 7 seconds to open can you do it while it's [Music] yes and then characters selfie save now reload yeah and it should have a level eight selfie four when it's magically correct fine i mean mine worked that's fine good now we're good to go easy very good easy fix on the fly are the auras on school now for sure no you swap them again now [Music] yes they are now they are yeah yeah the orzon's school omega weapon you're going down okay are the junctions fine now wherever i know the junctions are fine yeah i'll just double check um no because you get aura junction yeah he did look oh my god there we go okay he's fine yeah now it's fine again they broke everything i guess because there was 100 of them bye in the meantime uh after we beat omega weapon we still have to do the final boss and we can definitely do the controller chaos as well the f5 is coming hmm that's an engine that's an interesting one a squeeze baby a swollen nerve in the wrong way around like all of the junctions and magic and stuff here isn't he like he's gone now go to go to swap replace members or square yeah square room [Music] square okay diablos you just don't have it equipped for some reason [Music] what is that happening on magic yeah why are these grey what they're fine they're not able to use them yeah but why the great oh because it's in the castle right yeah yeah i understand i think we're okay you know we're good to go yep hopefully i don't see any problems here this is normal proceedings really definitely not chaos okay uh we'll just assume that the i think so yeah i mean yeah are you counting these that doesn't matter anymore so that's kind of what i was saying yeah exactly yeah it would be that one if it's if it's anything so [Music] okay here we go here we go omega weapon first try re-hike okay i missed it [Laughter] for such a big fella he's got a very very tiny hitbox a tiny shadow yeah [Music] [Music] so irvine throwing potions just to block uh omega weapon from doing anything as long as you keep drawing potions it will do nothing selfie has got aura status now which means her limit break will be active at all times and black cap is just going to look to a series of like known patterns [Music] there we go and this is the the end so yeah the way this works is really weird there's like several tables of potential like lists of about 64 uh uh magics that you could do um and there's only one of those that has the end on it um when selfie is at this level um and has critical hp and is in the aura status so she's always at crisis level four um and then he goes down he goes and we got an achievement we got an achievement so um yeah so we only have one table in which the end is on so what i did is essentially i memorized the last few entries on that table so i could like recognize the pattern so there's you know it's the last two spells on that table are a single fire followed by the end but it's actually two waters then a fire than the end so basically any of the options in the last day i kind of memorize where they are i'm checking through them making sure that they actually uh uh conform to the pattern oh yeah i'm gonna even save uh conform to the pattern that we're used to um and yeah if it ends up being the table it's got the end on it then there it is uh so we're just gonna do one quick last safety save because if there are going to be donations coming into swap controllers this could get responsible as well but there is just about i think the last fight is seven six or seven minutes to all four phases so it'll be very quick where we'll be coming in just over the six hour of the seven hour rest of it so we should be still saving some time but yeah there's the final boss can do some things so [Music] save and then off we go are we not hardworking oh we are half resetting actually yeah so just to fix the rng because we weren't sure entirely when we uh sorry tech before we just try to crop this back again i should be able to see myself um the we're going to reset the rng back to zero so it's a known point where we can um just make sure we get everyone in the final party one step right once i believe so hopefully yeah we'll find out i haven't done this in a while actually but yeah it's just just one step sneaky one step do i need to move [Music] so yeah like we've said the fact that we've done that hard reset now is that we kind of are on a known rng state um what i mentioned before in terms of like if we were doing the manipulation what we'd be doing is uh interacting with the draw point um higher much higher up the castle when we interact with that draw point it kind of moves the rng on by one one of the other things that you can do though to actually advance the rng is well on the very final screen we'll show you when it happens but on the very final screen there's uh oh there we go where it has to run in circles now um on the very final screen there's a menu into the vein there's a there's a save point um on that screen and the the problem with that is that we know that rng advice is on the save point so we have to walk in a straight line from across our bridge to the final door to go into the final boss the problem uh we have is that by doing that after a hard reset we won't get over in the party but what we can do is if we take one walking step it's just enough to delay um you don't need to go across yeah [Music] i think is it half a second that you're on the final bridge correct the rng is advancing uh by one so by doing a single walking step you're sort of delaying the length of time that you're on that screen by essentially one rng uh amount so it's kind of a way of uh getting in the party without needing to listen to everybody here for one step yep that should be fun if there's any donation to read before the last boss now was the last chance change places deniable credibility's back again with another five so change places please yeah we did it already we're perfect thank you we're well ahead of the game as soon as we see that plus five come in we're straight in fantastic here we go ultimisha let's do it so this is a multi-phase fight so there's a different strap for each of these phases uh i'd say probably the scariest or the the most um likely to cause us some grief and the one that's spending the longest time on the second phase the first phase is very straightforward everything's got initiative um he's in critical hp so we'll be uh doing some demonstration actually dispatch pretty quickly uh the issue we have now is that um uh [Music] on the second phase uh once all the hp of the second phase has been depleted he's going to do a move called shockwave pulsar which is one of the strongest moves in the game and it will wipe our entire party if we don't do something about it so we're going to cast an aurora stone on irvin which we do have an aurora stone by the way oh yeah um yeah here we go we've got over near antifa uh so yeah we're gonna dispatch this one pretty quickly but yeah what we'll be doing is uh using the other two party members we've got a score that's already got atb he's going to cast an aura stone on irvin that will basically mean that when all of the other limits that we're doing throughout the final boss will be of the highest possible crisis level so uh and with irving's limit break the higher the crisis level the more time you have to put all the shots in and we need up to eight shots in some of these phases so it's important for us to have the high crisis level and then we'll be casting our or using our two hero items that we received from two of our previous bosses uh on irving and the one other character in this case all would be the best option um that's a pretty quick attack hopefully that's okay renault is dead but who cares she might be dead actually it's only 900 [Music] because his is about like twice as fast twice as fast so it'll be the same time yeah in fact i think he'll be first yeah it looks like um but now we've got two uh completely invulnerable um characters um which basically means that when uh this phase which is grievous does cast shockwave pulsar um it will not kill oops uh yeah it will not kill irving in school oh yeah by the way we're fighting with taco right now yes we'll see some dialogue involving with taco very shortly that was six right yeah live came in oh yeah if i came in yeah there we go five yeah it's almost six and five liquid yeah so it's all fun and games until uh vodka gets the controller back and we cannot swap the config now yeah the conflict the confusion is fixed and i am not going to have a fun time trying to find the limit five more dollars is chaos and you could renzo the narrow would be delighted oh squad off he wouldn't have you be assure me when it like be sure when i say that the text is going to come up here well is it was it then or was it whether we already had it she's going to junction her she's she's junctioning ultimately was junctioning herself onto matako right now this is half an attack we'll have ultimisha which half is which who knows this song is amazing but we only get to hear it for these few seconds because this phase is over in one quick limit break so you can see the timer in the bottom is ticking down very slowly and that's because we've got uh aura cast on irving right now and it can require up to eight uh demolition ammo shots to to kill this phase so uh that's the kind of the maximum we can do oh here we go oh no oh here we go this is the chaos begins if there's any donations to read there is a bit of downtime between the next phases so if there's anything yep you've got it we've got a couple coming in we've got um five dollars from cat and minimal saying hello from new york city so having my lunch break lined up with disc four now swap places we've also got another five dollars from cubeos that says team kr what do we do now we won't have we can't we can't do it i like chaos going towards the dishonest dlc for the dlc choice of knife of dumbbell can we get 13 130 dollars in yeah we still have like what three minutes or something yeah they got three yeah they hit 51. you can do it we're still depending on tech we can talk to them after we complete if we get time for eyes on me or not see if you want to catch back up with a schedule too that's okay i guess we still have some time now just to say thank you dsa for having us it's been amazing um yeah really enjoyed the run really enjoyed the whole process it's been amazing and uh yeah thanks for letting us have the chance to show this off yeah if anyone calls chaos because absolute carrying chaos if anyone's interested obviously check out final fantasy 8 discard you can find it from the sweden.com page um there's plenty guides plenty help plenty nice people there's loads of resources on there there's a specific channel that's basically got a list of all the things you need to do and need to know for starting out and being able to do your first run and i would recommend waves easy cm uh notes it's an incredible it's incredible set of notes that's fine i can do it so we're going to be doing one last limit break with irvin here so squall you're telling me is within limit range technically yes so i i don't know where you're going finish this run with lorenzo which i think would be perfect to try so the extreme is amazing this is yeah one of the best songs in the game so i could control the songs that play during the final boss fight here are just so we can count on ultimate that's one but once he's officially dead now and she just recovers 100 hp five times so one hit done this is hit two two renzo for sure okay let's try to do it now no wait for the 50s you're doing it yeah everyone will do three and four i guess and then i can do it with the squad on the fifth yeah should be fine you don't want to wait for his atp again towards atv yeah don't wait for again just wait for her run again should be fine we think well she hasn't drawn an apocalypse yet no no it's fine there it is here it is and we get to finish off finish on lorenzo here we go for absolutely no reason just for swag yeah and get ready for time this is it time time that's it oh yeah thank you for having us thank you everyone for watching for donating keep donating keep supporting save the children amazing yeah the fact that we got over that is brilliant thanks so much for donating for the names and the incentives um yeah either great great fun great time yeah amongst all the chaos i'm gonna do this and like is the question for tech oh yeah we can wait for the eyes on me or we should just cut it off now yeah it's up to you guys if you want to uh cut and prepare for the next stream or what we do eyes on me as the outro so if they want to let us know we're easy perfect sure thanks a million so we're going to leave it there thanks so much for having us everybody thanks esa thank you again thank you thank you everyone thank you so much olson awesome waves of vodka can we get some more applause for them for that amazing run off final fantasy 8 thank you so much for your run we are going to be going to an intermission make sure you stay tight there will probably be some adverts as well make sure that you not stay hydrated and we are going to be going to a very very hectic run coming up very soon we've got bobby the blacktastic doing mega man 8 crowd control we'll see you very soon

Channel: ESA Speedrunning

Views: 22,421

Keywords: Charity, ESA, ESAMarathon, ESASummer22, European Speedrunner Assembly, Final Fantasy VIII, Olson, Save The Children, SaveTheChildren, Speedrun, awesomeWaves, bodcap

Id: qpthrpXHvdY

Length: 371min 4sec (22264 seconds)

Published: Sat Dec 31 2022