Ex Blizzard Employee "Exposed For Scamming"

Nick colandra did a investigation to Mark Kar and ex blizzard and ple exposing him for scamming people for thousands of dollars uhoh what's this I think my favorite thing about Mark Karn is that his third failed game why can't you just call it something that's not weird is this Ember like this is the CL like I'm going to call it Ember okay because it's pretty close to Ember and yeah we're going to call it that uh an option to buy founders packs for up to $155,000 so we'll open this dude up Source founders packs it's right there yes that's true how is that a scam I am not ready to discuss that yet because we're on page one of 10 all I'm doing right now is verifying that the information that he's providing is true like let me go through everything else and then we'll come back to it because like whenever I see stuff like this I always think to myself is this really true or is it not so yeah let's see here uh it's me though all right so let me make sure we've got this here all right so what do these say after this we'll just go through this tweet thread okay uh remember all the digging I did back on the day before I like this sort of work it's getting more interesting the more you dig on obvious frauders uh this is as far as his latest project got before his last update two years ago the updates were just concept art nothing from the actual game because it doesn't exist okay quite ethical uh okay so so this is the last time that okay well I mean this like where's this Ember first playable achieved another video update for Ember jet packing and gliding okay this is a huge update for us as this is the first time you can pilot the omn frame backers can download this now at my. Ember month fans first followed us so you got you got these things okay be a multiplayer version of the movement demo followed by guns and weapons I mean you know I was a big armored Core six fan I loved it a lot so like I see this this looks good I mean right I mean it's it's not like obviously it doesn't look as good as armored Core 6 but uh you know this is all right but this is four years ago like what happened for four years okay so let's see but he's still taking money on it let's keep uh going shall we they're still accepting money it seems like there's about four people working on the project and they're very focused on revamping the website due to increased detention you might think that he's using all this Twitter outrage to find a way to get funding this is March 2024 okay I I also I do think that this isn't true I don't think that it's true that he's using the Twitter outrage to get money I think Mark Kern just doesn't like it I I actually think it's that's so I think he just doesn't like it and obviously he's going to get more money with it but I think that if you want to go through and like at that point every single person who has an opinion on everything on the internet usually always has something that they're monetarily connected to so like if you view it as in every single time that somebody complains about something they're actually doing it for an ulterior motive I think that you could apply that to anyone right so we'd have to see more evidence that like this is explicitly what the reason is right cuz I think that just saying like oh well he's only doing this to like B make his game more popular like you could say that like what is this guy doing are you only doing this to make your like whatever this is more popular or whatever this is probably not you just have an opinion on this and so there's nothing wrong with that but it's not not everybody is doing things that you disagree with just for money sometimes people just disagree with you and and you know they're stupid or you're stupid right uh that's it they post updates every day on this forum thread if you'd like to see how much progress is being made on the game okay let's see it well this is March 30th and today's May 7th or April 7th so yeah it seems like they're not really oh oh oh I see the date now all right yeah I get it okay that's fine but you know it's it's pretty regular right it seems like it's being updated regularly I'm still not seeing how it's a scam yeah we've got some more of it how about fomo putting skins on sale for a game that doesn't exist only for a limited time so that suckers give them money for things that have zero value been selling skins for a game that doesn't exists since 2017 uh impressive yeah I think this is stupid too uh I think that this is stupid whenever ashes of creation does it it's stupid whenever um you know Poe did this even right like I think I'm pretty sure they sold skins and you know different types of packages before the game actually went into like a full release in like what was it 2014 or something like that so like Poe did it uh I mean I think the big one right is is Star Citizen uh does that too so yeah this is it's it's it's not a good thing but it is a pretty common practice that you know this type of thing has uh let's see here uh it gets better they also had a monthly subscription service not only are they making a game but he's also making a novel a tabletop RPG G notice how he doesn't advertise any of this on Twitter cuz even his audience would call it out well so if he doesn't advertise any of it on Twitter then why is he using it as a reason so he's using Twitter outrage as a way to get funding on the thing that you admit that he's not advertising on Twitter I mean I okay but let's go ahead and move on uh because even his audience would call it out makes sense yeah uh USD help fund the development $7 a monthly patreon I mean everybody like this is a very common practice and I understand if Nick isn't happy about this practice and I think he has every right to be upset about this practice because often times it can be used in a predatory way where people get taken advantage of I think that he's right uh however I don't want to single out Mark ker and say that he's somehow uniquely bad in this situation because there's a lot of games that I don't know if he's covered these games or not but there's a lot of games that do this there are many games that have patreons that people subscribe to on a monthly basis whenever the game isn't out like this is I I I don't know guys I feel like this is really normal just saying in development a long time is is not always a scam you're right but sometimes it is the games been development does 17 he promised backers a playable demo in 2020 and never delivered and all they've shown in seven years of development it's concept art well that's not true uh he did show one gameplay reveal here uh assuming that like maybe this is a vertical slice maybe this is and what that means is it's like it's not really a demo it's just like a very small version of the game that makes it look like it's a full game but uh yeah maybe that's the case but yeah I mean I I can see why people would be frustrated I'm not I'm not ready to call this this out as a scam though I just I don't think it's a scam yet let's go back further where he raised another million dollars for an Oculus Rift project that got a reveal trailer and then died okay so this was 9 years ago and the project died okay um that's cute so anyway yeah uh did he raise so he raised the money most projects don't like out still not a scam yeah and also like did he raise the you you're using the word raising the money I think this is very different did he raise the money through investors or did he raised the money through the public because if investors invested in something that was bad for whatever reason like they go into that knowing that like anybody who's in Venture Capital knows this a lot of games fail like I mean [ __ ] blizzard basically canceled OverWatch 2 they canceled Starcraft ghost and they cancelled uh project Titan and the survival game so yeah I mean I don't really I I mean you know Mark Kar comes from blizzard so the Apple doesn't fall far from the tree so it's just the way it is what's the rest of it I've done some digging i f something cool later day to continue uh here's this motive for all of this in case you wondering if you want to help me change the gaming industry like my most recent expose on the uh Community manager and secret discussion groups Please Subscribe it's about money because he wants to do this um I I I'm not really sure if I like everybody so like this is true but it's also true like this is like it it's true and it's not true right so the truth is that Mark ker has a brand of politics that is incredibly unprofitable so if he was doing all of this for the money wouldn't it logically make more sense that he would just adopt mainstream politics and make more money well I don't think that people that have bad opinions that nobody agrees with I don't think this is necessarily the fact that they're doing it all for the money but also everybody needs money like I I think that anybody could easily say that like I'm doing it all for the money because videos like this get posted on YouTube and then I get ad revenue from them but everybody's doing that it's the same as sweet baby is doing it for the money because they're getting paid by the companies that are paying them everybody's doing it for the money because everybody needs money I don't think that there are any like in general like yeah there are people that are more and less you know I'd say like ethical with doing things like this maybe a little bit but for the most part I think that it's all pretty much the same what's wrong with that I don't think there's anything wrong with that and this guy again I mean he's got a link directly I mean here's the thing right you go over you look at this you look at this keep your [ __ ] from falling apart it's a new game so he's got a game right here advertised on his page and I don't think there's anything wrong with that there's nothing wrong with doing this but the truth is that based off of the the same foundational argument that he uses against mark karna it can be applied to him so should we not take his argument seriously because he falls into the same category by his own reasoning I'm sorry but I just don't think this is very good argumentation so where's the rest head fund dinging all his followers are tagging this in him to tell on me you can't make up how stupid it is it's comical at this point i't blocked uh right now let see if he wants to explain himself where the money is going he won't uh well grum who's the person who's going to same to the game industry from all these awful people of Ethics with sendling money accept subscription payments and sell skins for a game that doesn't exist in any form how long you going to string people along uh who keeps tagging people as followers to dog pile and harass uh and who he knows to run game studios for ever talk about how he's more than happy to milk go money people for their money um I don't really like this idea that if you are tagging people for and criticizing their actions that you are dogpiling and harassing them because again if you say that then aren't you dogpiling and harassing Mark Kar right here uh I I don't like that logic because the implication is that you can't criticize people on the internet which is ridiculous yeah it's it's ridiculous you absolutely can and if he doesn't like something that a person posts on a public platform then he can express that dislike on a public platform there's nothing wrong with that like I I don't understand this this feels very Petty yeah his lack of game updates are very concerning well let's see there how much holy [ __ ] how Jesus Christ oh my God I think that I've already pretty much like I I just read read through everything except for I did not read this part uh so this is what I this is what I think I think that Nick brings up a very strong point and I think that Mark karna does need to answer these questions and I think that making video games nowadays that seem to turn into vaporware without regular updates because for example um ashes of creation has had regular play updates regularly Star Citizen has had a playable uh state of the game for quite a while now also Star Citizen sells things for way more money as well and they're making another game too so I do think that Mark Curran does need to take some accountability for what seems to be a VAP a vaporware project that people are putting money into randomly so anyway I think this is very fair what he's saying here about the game and like so there's two separate things gums and like 50 complaining about my hot girls and games I'm going to be 50 complaining about hot girls and games I absolutely will I'll be doing it when I'm 60 too and 70 hopefully right 80 hopefully 90 hopefully right yeah let's be honest I don't think there's anything wrong with that what the hell I think that this is completely valid what Nick is saying and I I think that it's totally fair to criticize Mark for this especially with all the receipts and all the money that was raised the fact that the game hasn't gone anywhere Etc this is very very fair and I don't think that this is necessarily evidence of him like 100% being a scammer but I do think that Mark Kar should come out and like address each one of these points genuinely because it is legit yeah he might not be a scammer but he's completely full of [ __ ] yeah I I do think that this is this is a huge problem and Mark Kar should take accountability for the things that is bringing up I also don't think that this has anything to do with what Mark KR is saying about the video game industry and I think the truth is that Nick doesn't like what Mark Kern is saying about the video game industry and so Nick is using this as a tool to like illegitimize Mark Kern's like statements about the games industry but I don't think he really cares about this game at all necessarily I think he's just simply using it as a tool to make him look bad which again is totally fine because it's all in the public but at the same same time uh you know I think it's important to understand like where this is coming from well bigger problem in the games industry fake W scandals uh or scammers grifting idiots who want to be anti-woke what's a bigger problem um I don't know it depends on who you ask I mean to me I think that the scams are really bad is there anything here by the way is there anything here that makes me can I use the words scam to say that that's Mark Cur am I going to say mark game is a scam I'm not sure that I've seen enough evidence to say that it is a scam but it's pretty close I will definitely say that if this is Chronicles of lyria what would we say Well we'd say it's a scam absolutely that's the thing and also Chronicles of Alyria was a lot worse like I don't even know if they had a playable demo at all and that's the thing is that even with Chronicles of Alyria or any of those other games I think that a lot of times a lot of people like sometimes games don't happen because people [ __ ] things up like it's not like it was intentionally a scam and I do think this is important if you're doing something and it doesn't work out it doesn't retroactively become become a scam sometimes it just becomes a failure and a failure is not necessarily a scam but I can see why people say it is because from their perspective if they give you money and then they don't get what they want with their money then they think they get scammed here's the [ __ ] uh here's the lesson from this don't give random middle-aged men on the internet your money hoping that they might make a good video game the kickstarter F like the way that kickstarters work and everything like it is buy or beware you should expect that every single time that you give somebody money like this that you are lighting that money on fire and maybe some point in the future it will come along and help you you should recognize the risk and gamble yes yes you should absolutely do that b never give Kickstarter video games money I think that you don't need to never give him because like I've you know I've promoted games like for example on Pixel pitch and I've said like this is a great game if you want to support it I don't think there's anything wrong with supporting game developers that are trying to make their game on Kickstarter but I think that you need to go into it with the expectation that sometimes those games don't succeed and sometimes they don't work out and that's what happens it happens even with AAA Studios uh what game has Mark K made is 20 years after blizzard I hear his name a lot it's already his ex blizard Mark K what's he done since then I have no idea uh killed by shitty management decisions yeah if Mark Karen is bad at making games I have no [ __ ] clue I don't know I'd love you open up Podcast something uh where you just talk about stuff categor for us to go through oh yeah it's risky but supporting IND funding is how we combat lowquality AAA yeah and that's a good thing I don't disagree with the vast majority of what Nick is saying are pointing out but I'm going to L you some Nuance here and tell my own anote Nick I zaga he proclaims your existence of the proof is something bad as a scam expensive founders packs can exist uh without the project itself being a scam and I recognize that yeah like a lot of games have really expensive founders packs like Poe lost Arc uh one I mean lost AR doesn't really have expensive founders packs you know they uh just have expensive gameplay and uh you know ashes of creation Star Citizen right this is very common so yeah K is so this guy thinks that mark C is clear scamming people this game hasn't moved forward beyond the concept art and we're at like the seven-year part it's like Mark curan saw Star Citizen and copied their homework I'm going to be honest I don't think that there's anything here that he's saying that's like really wrong and again like it's not about whether like so this is the problem is that like whenever you put something out into the public remember what I said before about like how nobody cares about artists opinions this is an example of that but it's a different kind of example of that so whenever you put something out into the public and then people perceive it in a certain way whenever your product is perception and people perceive it in a different way you are not selling the product in the right way so in a way if everybody thinks it's a scam it's a [ __ ] scam like whenever the people that are giving you money or potentially giving you money thinks to scam then you know you're kind of scamming they also just said they completely rebooted and restarted the project so it's going to take a while before we see any updates yeah but like wouldn't any company that's trying to scam say that I mean like I'm not going I'm not trying to be like I generally like I kind of like Mark Karn and so like I don't want to [ __ ] on Mark K he's one of the reasons like well we got classic right I mean did that whole thing with like all the the petitions and took it to Mike morheim so I have a generally positive opinion about Mark Kar but I mean yeah this looks really bad man it does it looks really really bad especially from like all the things that he's been criticizing other Developers for I think that's totally [ __ ] fair and so anyway yeah what is the end result of this I think Nick brings up some very good points point I think that all of his argumentation that are attacking Mark curr's credibility with what he was saying about like different Studios being like a Dei and [ __ ] I think all of that argumentation is paper thin and terrible but I think that whenever he talks about the actual game itself and the problems that the game itself has I think that yes for a lot of people this is considered a scam but at the same time you have to contextualize it with the fact that any Kickstarter is buyer beware and there are a lot lot of kickstarters that go this way and I don't really think that's necessarily a scam but with seven years no playable demo anything like that I do think Mark Kar should take some degree of accountability for this because it it's really bad it's bad that's it it's bad no demo is bad yeah it's bad this opportunity to be a spokesperson of Justice uh while not taking accountability for your failed money collection Ventures yeah that's I think that he does have to take accountability for this 100% it's not even a question

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Published: Sun Apr 07 2024