"Everybody At ITV Knew!" Piers Morgan Reacts To Phillip Schofield Scandal

welcome back and it is good to be back uh the media scrutiny around this morning presenter Phillip Schofield has been Relentless since he stepped down more than two weeks ago and sit down into these with the son on the BBC he talked about losing everything after permitting an affair with a young male colleague I understand how Caroline Flack felt last week if my daughters hadn't been there I wouldn't be here who knew on the team nobody well today the key member of his team of course Holly Willoughby is co-host return to this morning saying she feels shaken troubled and let down imagine that you might have been feeling a lot like I have shaken troubled let down worried for the well-being of people on all sides of what's been going on and full of questions you me and all of us at this morning gave our love and support to someone who was not telling the truth who acted in a way that they themselves felt that they had to resign from ITV and step down from a career that they loved that is a lot to process well we all know about stepping down from jobs we love at ITV but there are big questions left to answer over this Scandal or is it time to say enough is enough do you want to be discuss or there's a journalist North Jenny cleanman talk to me is Richard Tice and Rosanna lock with my my standard but not for long like all standing she's plotting and planning to seize the big chair um all right no comment well if you're not you should be um what's your taking all this I mean I've been on for a week reading about it obviously while lying on a sunbed and it just reached a crescendo after Schofield gave his interviews well I looked I've known him a long time 35 years I wrote a biography of Philip Schofield literally in the 90s um and I looked to the guy and I thought you are completely broken yeah and and when someone is in that condition um even though I felt that his comparison to Carolina Flack was clumsy and and he probably shouldn't have said that he probably meant it he probably did feel that he was genuinely what's left I may as well kill myself what do you think of the whole thing where are we now with this story I mean the question that you lined us up with was should we still care about it is it too far now I'd say it was too far a week ago I was saying this when I sat in your chair this time last week why why do the public care about this I don't really give two Hoots about it it's a television show perhaps a bit reductive I know it's representative of other issues in society I know people are interested but sometimes what's in the interest of the public isn't what's in the public interest Richard uh for me Pez actually he probably was right to give that interview because it highlighted to everybody just how he was feeling and I think that was the moment at which actually people stopped attacking him and focused on which I I think is the right thing to focus on which is the appalling incompetent leadership and management of ITV which is actually a seriously important the one thing I know for sure a lot of people at ITV knew about the rumors about this relationship I mean everybody knew at ITV right let's be crystal clear that building was a buzz with this for about three years because three years ago the national TV Awards in the ITV box the young man concerned in mystery uh confessed his undying love for Phillip Schofield everybody knew that so this idea that the whole management are basically going we didn't know anything come on um so that that proves my point that I know is not true I mean she has presided over an absolutely catastrophic performance of this company the shares are down 60 the dividends down Ford have said she's being summoned to the select committee and yet the non-exec directors they're saying nothing the company said nothing at the corporate level you know about this and Dame Carolyn uh God bless her she was the CEO when I left Good Morning Britain and they put me in a position where I had to either apologize for disbelieving princess Pinocchio or I had to leave immediately there was no inquiry for me it was just like you either now publicly apologize for disbelieving Meghan markle's lies as it turned out or you have to leave immediately so I took the leaving immediately option uh but what's fascinating is two days after that after I'd left uh the Telegraph newspaper runs a story that says that Meghan Markle had written to name Carolyn on the Monday night before I left on the Tuesday demanding my head on a plane nobody thought to mention that to me and had they had done I wouldn't have been so Hasty in leaving I would have said I'm not leaving because some princess tells you to make me leave right so now to bring it up to full speed now the same damn Carolyn McCall has repeatedly said in public that it had no bearing on the decision to force me out that is a lie if you're watching Dame Carolyn that's a lie you know it's a lie I know it's a lie I don't want an ongoing fight with ITV I had a great time at ITV although I didn't even get a carriage plot when I left 15 years not even a clock yeah but what were you I mean what would you do with the clock if you could work in a factory somebody gives you a clock right I didn't even get a thank you right at least Schofield got 30 seconds of Derma earlier on a Monday thanking him I've got nothing I trebled the ratings not even again so management and Leadership on a serious Point here's my well this is a serious point my point really is my experience of interview management from the top down is that when it suits them they'll lie through their back teeth secondly that the way they handle Talent is morally schizophrenic depending who you are and how important they think you are to the firmament at any given moment or how important your agency is in the case of Phillip Scoville and so on people like that Holly Willoughby um they look at all those things they make moral judgments based on that kind of stuff that's where they lose me it's not consistent there's no concern right the thing is that will all come out because there's going to be an inquiry yeah and I think that's a really good thing that there is going to be an inquiry I think if this had happened on the BBC they would have had to have called an inquiry a long time earlier I do think though that there is a there has been a Feeding Frenzy which has been spurred by some people who have a personal beef or maybe jealousy of both Holly Willoughby and Philip Schofield that has allowed this story to have a momentum to go on and on in a Relentless way that perhaps it doesn't necessarily again film made quite a lot of enemies it's not a secret I know quite a few people well mutual friends who can't stand it right and they really can't stand and they made no signal of it Amanda Holden Eamonn Holmes people like that they can't stand the guy right um so that was not a secret uh but I wrote a piece the chalk and cheese though peers as you know very well you know like some people I prefer to be a pleasant surprise and a bitter disappointment my my argument about the ITV data and firmament was that so many of them were just total effects I wrote this piece for the sun when this first broke 10 days ago that the whole thing is basically fake right they're not real people a lot of them so they say to your face I love you I love what you do you're so fabulous peers and then behind your back you hear but almost immediately that they despise you and can't wait to get your job it's like it's a whole edification thing is it a lot of broadcasting like that it is uh yes yes it is yeah it is and it's a lot of bosses telling you you're wonderful you're wondering you normalize lying and that seems to be what's happened here is that the lies went on and on you know if something is fake it's essentially a lie and that's going throughout the whole organization can Holly really not have known I mean Her speech today reminded me we've got a bit of it here I think let's have Holly again imagine that you might have been feeling a lot like I have shaken troubled let down worried for the well-being of people on all sides of what's been going on I knew what reminded me of it was this Kessler my co-host and partner of 15 years was fired today for sexual misconduct stay strong first and foremost I want to offer our sympathy and support to the women we are devastated that this happened on our watch and our hearts are with you and to you at home I understand how you must be feeling because I and the whole team here at the morning show are feeling the same way shock disappointment disbelief she's throwing me under the bus well I mean apart for the white dress which was a good touch the Angelic look uh I I like Hollywood Beach he's a good friend of mine I've known for this government a long time right um I like Holly and I don't she's in an impossible position yeah right she had to come she had to come back contractually and do and do what she did um it's just again I wrote in this piece like that the the speed with which people go from Heroes in this game right where Charities are falling over themselves to use them to their friend people they think of their friends at work no here's a message they're not in most cases in most cases they will Chuck you under a bus and into a grave as soon as look at you while simultaneously ringing the bosses trying to get your job right it's just what the nature of the Beast is it's ruthless it's horrible and we've seen it laid bare at his worst but it was out of my question I guess we started with this didn't we at some point you've got to you've got to move on from this unless something comes out unless the young man concerned in this story that fully discovered the affair with as he comes out and contradicts Philips Global's version of events or somebody else comes out with new Revelations what else do people want Villa Schofield is a broken guy yeah he's not going to work on television again almost certainly he's lost everything in his life yeah uh I don't know what more the being mob on Twitter won from Philly to Schofield that he hasn't already lost and that was what was so evident from that interview he was an empty husk and I agree with you it's clumsy the Caroline Flack comparison but I remember watching her documentary where she say she used to go home after recording her shows and just read all the tweets and all the comments and feel empty and emptier and it reminds you that yeah Showbiz people presenters they're overpaid it's a lovely life but they're also human and it really does kill someone's soul to be attacked like that mercilessly day after day but I will say this have the ratings from this morning ever been higher than they were this morning I don't know we'll find out I mean the problem of a Hollywood be if they were gigantic for the first half a minute and then plummet um I mean we'll see look it's not funny for her she's obviously being a very tight it's tough it's difficult you're in an arranged marriage of these situations I was in one myself suddenly you're divorced right it's a very you know um hard to maintain and when you say what what what do people want they want her destroyed they want the show Ax and there are some people who have you know like proper professional beefs or who want the job and are going to keep on going as soon as you know when the results of this uh inquiry and I'm not saying they're all going slightly nuts but this was the the boss of this morning uh Martin Brazil uh who's a good guy uh and from my experience but this is how he reacted this morning to Sky News say what's toxic I've always found toxic is aubergine do you like aubergine do you is there a toxic work do you like aubergine because I don't like aubergine it's just a personal thing is there a typical environment at this morning I've heard of what about that's a new one somebody mentioned it might be an emoji a reference I don't think we really want to go there but um these situations do send everyone slightly nuts this this probably goes quiet until the inquiry comes out and if the inquiry finds that actually the management and the leadership and the board knew about this then I think the whole pack of cards comes down and it's a start again you know the hardest problem for Holly Willoughby will be who to replace and with because or else's Anna Ray she's been through about 15 blokes now and none of them none of them live up to me and that's a heartbreaking heartbreaking moment hard act to follow yeah I was trying to say that let's throw your face are you all like oh really it's a joke mind you when one of them was Aleister Campbell you can quite understand it my God talk about cratering the audience maybe could you not do it uh actually because she lead it and then have a sort of guest host each week yeah that's what she's doing I think it's a fascinating scenario I just think probably most people in the country now if not the wider world of just bulb with it the board short of a new bombshell move on don't you think yep yep I think so

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Length: 13min 20sec (800 seconds)

Published: Mon Jun 05 2023