Ep. 146 – Overcome Fear & Rejection with Steffany Gretzinger(@Steffany Gretzinger), Part 1

well hello amazing gorgeous you oh my gosh today you're going to hear stephanie gretzinger and i go in deep deep deep in the lord we're going to talk about how to stay on fire even when you're going through persecutions or trials hey y'all we're going to talk about how to overcome fear of rejection this is going to be so good and do you feel like you're too much or too little listen you're going to overcome those things in this podcast and you're going to feel the presence of the lord i cannot wait for you to hear this conversation well hello amazing gorgeous welcome to the whole life podcast show and if you're watching us on youtube you're going to see that i'm in a different spot you're going to see mauna loa right here behind me and uh just a little bit up the mountain here is where i used to live with my dad and uh so i'm so excited to be here in one of my favorite places and with one of my favorite people stephanie gretzinger hello my sister hi so good to be with you i wish i could be with you in hawaii but i'm very glad to just be with you well i do want to i just want to go ahead and dive deep real quick because i think you all know who uh stephanie is if you don't you've got to get in touch with her music she is a deep deep profound worshiper of god and it is impossible to worship to not worship to worship along with her and not go into the presents and uh she's a true lover of the lord so i want you guys to go out there and buy up her music just buy it up uh but you know stephanie i i lived here in my teenage years i went to high school here for part of my high school years and there were some really wonderful times but it was also a time when my mom didn't want me and i'd been through terrible abuse with my mom my dad came and got me but there was a lot of and and he tried but my dad had been so abused his whole life that he i went through some um pretty serious emotional incest the things my dad said to me did with me and um uh he was just so lost and and yeah and i also had family members in the mafia here and so i was told and my dad told me he wasn't my he might not be my real dad so here i'm sleeping in the same bed with this man who's treating me kind of like his girlfriend doing i think the best he can he was just so lost he's like don't tell anyone you'll be murdered and i'm in this whole other culture and let me tell you and my dad 10 years ago died by suicide but it was after we reconciled in this beautiful way and i have to tell you i'm back here and i'm so happy and full of the lord and how so i didn't say all that to be a downer what i want to tell you is you know we love these signs and wonders where eyeballs grow out and legs grow out but what about this miracle stephanie what about this mirror people that i feel so loved and i'm here reaching out to my relatives here sharing christ and i feel the presence of the lord and i'm happy and i'm going back to the same places and i'm celebrating who my dad was and i'm honoring and i don't feel beaten down the same person that listen i married the man who used to be my pastor and they used to have meetings about me stephanie what to do about barbara because i didn't know how to people i was so like feral and so what i want to tell y'all miracles are real wholeness is real now you've experienced some wholeness in your life have you not my friend yes yes and continue to and continue talk to us about what the lord has done in your life you know when i um i had a rare and precious gentle god-fearing father and a beautiful god of fearing mother but um you know i think in my life i i think what i have had to be most delivered from is the fear of man the fear of needing to nail it like needing needing to do it perfectly like that i was honoring god if i was doing what everyone thought i should be doing and that will exhaust you so quickly and um and and wear you out to the point that you like you're never meeting any mark because you're trying to nail it for everyone you know and and the thing is they'll never be happy no matter how no matter how hard you try and um so you know the fear of failure was really real to me because i thought um that it looked like you know i'd set a bar that nobody in my parents didn't even set it for me but i'd picked up this lie that it wasn't okay to not be okay and it wasn't okay to you know like you had to keep it together because that was stable and oh you know all those things like i didn't i would i would say to anyone that you know their emotion and what was going on in their internal was so important and precious my dad was in deliverance ministry but i held myself to like this sort of garbage standard that was you know that someone else's healing was more important than mine because i should be okay i should already know this i should already i should already get this and you know we're gonna we'll deal with the you know help these people and then we'll get to you because you're fine you know and nobody said that to me i i think i just picked it up and unintend you know people unintentionally in religious environments you know yeah kind of put that on you and their respect was more for the ones who seem to have it all together and so i was a bit of a you know i was a bit of an anomaly in that that environment because of the way the lord started to undo me in worship so what most people don't know is that that didn't that wasn't my nature to come to to wildly worship was horrifying to me my parents would call me on stage as a child and i would run out of the room crying i was horrified of being in front of people and my voice being heard and i definitely like didn't want to look crazy in front of people because they would think i was crazy so it's it's like it's pretty miraculous to me that i'm i'm doing what i am now and that i just am who i am because he continues to unravel me and um and delight in in my offering and i'm finding that the most costly thing that i have offered him in life was also the most clumsy and and that's what made it beautiful it's been like you know constant through my whole life this beautiful journey of um that but i would say more than anything that's um you know and there's uh you know we could go on the list forever of the ways he's delivered us and things we don't even know about that he has you know even things he hasn't touched on yet that he's still working out in us but that's probably for me the most it's been the thing that he had he's just had to go back deeper and deeper and deeper and we're like man so it's it's it's been beautiful he's he's so patient i'm in love with the passion translation and the book of joshua just came out and a few other books and so i'm reading it really slowly and savoring it you know like a gourmand like a french quarterback and so i'm i'm staying in joshua one and i'm just reading it over and over in all the footnotes and it talks about you have every place you put your foot um which i i'm amazed at coming back and the difference that i feel honestly stephanie because there was so much hurt and pain here on this island even though it's so beautiful and i love this island there was still a lot of pain i went through on this island and but you know i've been thinking about joshua joshua and then it ties into what you and i are about sharing joshua was son of none and that's in un none and it means uh eternal purpose and to re-sprout and to rebirth and when i read that i'm like oh i'm daughter of none i'm daughter of respond you can't hold me down because of who's in me and joshua means jesus and so i'm daughter of jesus who's uh son of resprout eternal response and rebirth and uh i want to go i want to go even deeper if that's okay because what i shared what yeah what i shared with stephanie before this is that i have been going through because of some uh let's call it biblically orthodox or biblically conservative i'm not talking about politics we don't do politics here in dr barbara ministries but um i'm talking about values i've taken some conservative stands and i've gotten some at times pushback and just from just in the times i've shared my heart and i'm thinking i knew the cost right you count the cost you know there's a cost but i just but but you would just align with the lord anyway and you do it in love you do it in love and so i've chosen to do that uh but when there's so you're so what i'm talking about is we get so on fire for god and then we move forward and then there's a cost there's some persecution persecution is usually a good sign really in scripture that you're doing the right thing or that you are taking ground that you're entering into the promised land that you're entering into sometimes even a promotion and then there's some pushback and what i've been thinking about in this is the pushback is often a felt sense of you're too much right you're too much you're over the top conform to the spirit of this world more yes yes and when i look back at times in my life i'm going to be really vulnerable here i'm going to say i have not always been on fire for the lord uh i've always loved him i've had a quiet time every day i've been passionate about him but there's a a desperate hunger that that we need to live in and be to be a healthy christian to be honest if you're not hungry you're not healthy that's right that's right pastor tim and i'm my husband we've been talking lately like why do we why do we lose some of that hunger when it's so good that hungry place and i think it's these these pushes uh that come through circumstances hurts wounds to push us back that say you're too much tone it down or sometimes it comes through a hurt that's an offense towards god and what i want to talk i want to talk about this if it's okay because i believe that god's calling many of us to step out and enlarge the place of our tent stretch out our tent bags isaiah 54. but when we do that and he's rebuilding us in the middle of all that you all have to read isaiah 54 in the passion translation um there's there can come and there can come an attack and we don't need to live and fear the enemy right but we need to know how to deal with it wisely and stay on fire and on purpose through it and this is what i wanted to ask you about how have you done that because i look at your life and see you've done that you know i um i think of you know the times when david said my eyes are ever on the lord i put i've ever i've put you ever before me i've set you ever before me and i think even when i was feeling overwhelmed overwhelmed or kind of pushed down by um criticism or control or whatever those different things were whether it's the inner critic or it's the criticism you know from the people around me i think i i knew i was like this can't be your voice because the fruit of the voice of the lord is life and it's health and it's like the word of the lord is like it's health to a man's whole body the word says i mean it brings life to our whole bodies it's like light it illuminates everything and so i was like this can't be your voice so even in the even in like the being pushed back i i remember asking the lord i'm like i'm going to set you before me i'm going to ask you to give me eyes to see and ears to hear you and and because there was so much you know um the thing that keeps coming to mind is that i had even there's wisdom and many counselors the word says but i think i had given ear to many criticizers right i'd give it i'd give an ear to the critical which is never the lord's voice it will never be the lord's voice right because he doesn't he doesn't mock he isn't a scoffer right like he doesn't like if i'm standing in if i'm sitting in the counsel of a voice like that then i've surrounded myself with criticism instead of like true godly counsel to counsel the lord and so i think when those voices were getting loud i thought oh this isn't the fruit this isn't the fruit of the father's voice in my life and i just i would sit him before me i would say i would meditate on his word i would ask for wisdom i would ask for eyes to see you know like that my i would store up treasure in heaven it's like that um what i was thinking of when you were talking is um what is this uh romans 10 17 faith comes from hearing and hearing from the word of god and i remember my dad saying that all the time but i love the the nlt version says this so faith comes from hearing that is hearing the good news about christ the good news about christ and so i realized like oh it's it's like life to even hear about him to set him in front of me we become what we behold right so if i'm staring at all this stuff that's pressing me down if i'm like just looking at all this stuff i'm listening to the light you're too much you're over the top you need to calm down you'll reach more people if you just tone it down like all this stuff the other day for the first time i was asked if i would take the name jesus out of one of my songs because they said we think this will have a further reach and we and we we believe in it we think it'll have a further reaches and and it'll go on lots of other platforms and travel further if we'll just if we take jesus out and i said oh no absolutely not never and but but it's that thing it's that push back and um but i felt like when when my foundation okay like that that's how i practiced it i was like i have all these other voices trying to come at me and shut me down and it makes me like i if i listen to all those voices long enough they'll paralyze me if faith comes from hearing the good news about christ then fear comes from hearing all the other bad news yes right so i'm like going okay same with my eyes whatever holds my gaze will eventually hold my heart if i am staring at the people who are trying to are saying those things if i'm staring at the critical if i'm staring at the negative if i'm staying staring at all the things you know all the negative stuff when i get a bad report i'll crumble but if my foundation and my filter are the good news of christ his word about me if i've been drinking his word if i've been looking at him and meditating on him then when a bad report comes my filter is already good news my foundation is already you know that that i'm chosen i'm that i'm his that i belong that um all he wants is everything and so the he he takes the offering and makes it much you know to me he's the one who does something with it i don't i don't know if that feels clear but i just does the absolutely coming to mind the um you know the eye is the lamp of the body that matthew 6 the eye is the lamp of the body so then if your eye is clear your whole body will be full of light like whatever i am looking at whatever i we will become what we behold and if we're staring at that stuff long enough right yeah and darkness is like the depression comes and the darkness and our fire goes out but if we're looking at him and we're going hey this this is my foundation my eyes are full of light and so my whole body is whole my whole body is healthy because i'm taken in the light of the whole world and even a bad report the darkness over the it can't it can't shut down the light because it's coming up from inside you know it's so good in me so i have a thought from a psychological perspective and a spiritual perspective to go along with that that was so good stephanie so naturally our brain has what psychologists call a negative bias we are always scanning in the natural this is not the mind of christ which if you are a christian you have the mind of christ but in the natural uh we are always scanning for threat and so we can see a sea of happy faces in one angry face and our mind our natural mind in the flesh wants to zoom in on that and and and see the world through uh scanning for threat is a very natural way of thinking now as christians we have the mind of christ now if you are not sure you're a christian just pray right now jesus i receive you as my lord and savior savior i give my whole life to you because you died on the cross for me from the forgiveness of my sins that i could have a whole new life in you in jesus name boom you go you're you know that's how you get born again email us we'll get you some some resources but uh so we have the mind of christ the scripture says for those of us who are in christ and the in hebrews it talks about how we use our spiritual five senses our spiritual senses to perceive him jesus said i only do what i see the father doing so i've psychologists talk about neuroseption where we perceive what's going on in our nervous system i'm like we need a word for spirit ception so i've coined this word and i think this i'm like why hasn't someone else thought of this because pneumoception so i call it pneumoception where we tune into what the holy spirit is doing in every moment so you're talking about your eyes to behold your ears you know some of us are more feelers sensors and uh and this is so important some of y'all who are listening have this gift and you've thought you're always being kind of assaulted and you don't even know why you feel just extra sensitive you might actually be have the gift have a strong gifts of discernment and and you need to learn to kind of be an atmosphere changer instead of absorber because you've got that in you anyway always always looking at god what are you doing in this situation because if if you can be sensing other things you definitely can be sensing the holy spirit that's right and so what i'd love to do is is kind of move into this topic of what i would call numeraception of um gazing upon him seeing him and i'd love to talk about some of the ways we've perceived him known him felt him seen him i'll share one mother's day as i was preaching what an honor i preached at soul harvest church it was an honor for me because pulpit preaching is new for me and um and that morning i was praying you know preaching's new for me so it wasn't like i was dozing off right i was up praying for the people i was jazzed i was not tired and um suddenly i was asleep and i was in this room with all this white linen and i was getting ready to preach on god is outside of time and redeems all everything from your past yes including mother wounds and so and i was running there was some kind of beings behind me washing white linen and pressing it and i was running through and there were like thousands of yards of really tall white linen and i was like a younger girl kind of version of me and i was running through and i was feeling i touched it with my hands all this white linen and then suddenly i woke up and i was like how did i even fall asleep oh my gosh i think i was like in a room in heaven or something some kind of white linen room and and god had given me a fresh beholding of his word to say i will redeem anything that you will cover with faith in what i've done that everything from your past can be covered in that white linen yes that redeems all things that makes it even i mean i'm gonna have to tell you i'm even glad for the abuse i went through because of what i can do now because of how he's redeemed it tim and i just moved into a new house that we were having built we didn't know what road it was going to be on it's on restoration drive you know there's so much redemption with god that's possible so i'd love to hear some stories of you seeing feeling beholding him in that you know that numeraception way would you mind sharing he said oh it would be my joy um you know when you were talking one of the first things that comes to mind is um there's a space in meditating on his word where i i it's like i've gone deep and i've meditated to the to the space of um feeling weightless like like you almost feel like you're in water yes um you know what i love about water is that you don't you don't feel heaviness there like you know what i mean you just you everything becomes weightless yeah and i i feel that when i'm i feel that when i when i am drinking his word when i when i'm just saying it over and over not not like drinking it for quantity but for quality i'm really wanting you know spirit of wisdom and revelation opened my eyes and my ears and my heart and my entire being to what you want to say what what you're saying the depths all the depths of the riches of the wisdom and the knowledge of god you know and um and so i there's a space where i feel literally weightless and um and almost where uh oh i don't even i don't even know barbara how to explain this almost where sounds become solid yeah like um uh where it's like everything becomes like music and you um he he becomes more real than everything i don't even know how to explain it's like everything just goes your insides go completely still and everything um it's like your senses go like you can hear every tiny little thing that's going on um but it all it's all like music and you just sense you know his enormity yeah just that he has come to overwhelm the thing that's tried to overwhelm you but that happened when i when i set my gaze when i practice right oh that was so good and that's just part one part two will be coming out on the heels of this so get ready because your life is changing you're moving into more of god and hey make sure you get on the hearts returning home waitlist so that you can have you can get in on the early bird cart opening go to heartsreturninghome.com and are you looking for a tribe of hungry women who are overcoming all that the enemies try to put us under and getting more and more whole praying together and studying the word together you can go to dr barbara lowe dot com forward slash tribe and join our whole hearted women tribe i love you so much and make sure you're following us on facebook and instagram and hey you gotta make sure you're on my email list go to forward doctorbarbarlow.com contact and get on my email list so you can find out 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Keywords: wholeness, narcissism, Christian marriage, depression, anxiety, relationship, intimate relationship, holy spirit, psychology tools, faith tools, soul healing, physical healing, mental health, trauma therapy, Christian counseling, faith plus psychology, mindfulness, boundaries, self-care, stress, generational patterns, somatic nervous system, releasing fire, supernatural, trauma healing

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Length: 25min 7sec (1507 seconds)

Published: Wed Sep 01 2021