Drew Barrymore Interviews Dylan Farrow & Katherine Schwarzenegger Pratt | Full Episode

today on drew in a daytime exclusive there was no higher career calling card than to work with woody allen this is too personal for human consumption whatever's going on now is not the sum of your entire life there is this darkness deep deep inside it all starts now welcome everyone our first guest is the main subject in the harrowing documentary allen versus pharaoh in which she leaves no stone left unturned bearing it all about the abuse she says she endured as a child it is important to note that woody allen has never been criminally charged in connection with these allegations to say this story has a very complicated history is an understatement please take a look the new hbo docu-series allen versus pharaoh examines the abuse allegations involving famed director woody allen this series revolves around dylan farrow the adopted daughter of actress mia faro and woody allen raised by someone considered to be a treasure of the cinema dylan's childhood was once seen as idyllic to the outside world but in 1992 when abuse allegations were raised that all changed alan denies child abuse woody gave a press conference and our jaws dropped no matter what you think you know it's just the tip of the iceberg dividing her family hollywood and the public dylan's claims of abuse and the latest interviews bring us into her past trauma with the aid of her brother ronan and her mother's perspectives new footage and recordings are shared in this documentary seemingly supporting the claims made by the then seven-year-old dylan he made me feel so special that's where things get really really complicated because threaded throughout all of those good times there was a lot more going on woody allen and his wife sunyi also an adopted daughter of mia have consistently denied these allegations stating that they are quote categorically false it's taken me a long time to sort of reconcile that you can love somebody and be afraid of them an adult now dylan remains adamant in her disclosures that she has repeatedly stated for the past 20 years she now uses her platform to try and teach other survivors to be brave and resilient themselves i'm very honored to welcome the very brave dylan farrow [Applause] i feel like you look so different in person do i oh my god i have all my makeup on i like normally i'm like if you saw me crawl into work every morning i look like someone they wouldn't let in the building and not the same way there was a very nice girl who came to the hotel and she did it ahead of time and it was really cute my daughter got to see all of her makeup stuff she was very enamored of that so you know our life is in chapters and i think we should hold this conversation especially in honor of you being an incredible novelist oh my god with your brand new book out called hush um i think i would love to conduct this conversation if i may in a writerly way to honor your beautiful career and because i do believe that life is a book with many chapters i want to say first out of the gate too that i uh i would like to explain myself uh because this is not about me but i wanted to sort of have this type of candor i worked with woody allen i did a film with him in 1996 called everyone says i love you and um there was no higher career calling card than to work with woody allen and then i had children and it changed me because i realized that i was one of the people who was basically gaslit into not looking at a narrative beyond what i was being told and i see what's happening in the industry now yeah and that is because of you making that brave choice so thank you for that thank you oh my goodness hearing what you just said like i mean i i'm trying not to cry right now um but like it it it just just so meaningful because it's easy for me to say like of course you shouldn't work with him you know he's a jerk he's a monster but i just find it incredibly brave and incredibly generous that that you would say to me that um that my story and what what i what i went through was important enough to you to to reconsider that absolutely and how hard was it for you to engage in this documentary which i really want to make a caveat about that your family did not produce no no they came to us i think that's very important for people to understand your family did not produce this documentary we participated and apparently everyone was asked to participate yeah no they they they went to everyone um and and and that was important you know even just to me to know that like that there was a level of journalistic integrity at work here so did your family get together and say these people are different they're taking a tone they're using a diligence there there's a thoroughness here that feels safer in order to come out and make this brave decision um i was actually the one who initially told my mom and told ronan you know like hey you know i sat down with with these people and i really think that they are on the up and up so then when my mom agreed to be interviewed i was really really shocked and when ronan agreed i was even more shocked and then fletcher agreed and i was i mean i was picking my jaw up off the floor and you know gradually more and more of my siblings signed on and a few of them didn't and i've spoken to them about that too and i i respect that decision as well um but i mean in terms of like a family meeting not really but um but there was there was communication and interestingly the the documentary has led to greater communication between us as a result i think which is interesting may i ask why you were surprised that they signed on i think mostly because we wouldn't talk about it to each other so talking about it publicly it was just it just seemed absolutely incomprehensible okay um we're gonna take a quick commercial break and when we come back more with dylan welcome back to a very important and honest conversation with dylan farrow you know how did your mom feel watching the documentary i mean it was tough because i would have loved to have been able to watch the series with her um and at the time that just wasn't possible we were we were in separate quarantine pods unfortunately um so i really sort of heard everything from her after the fact you know it was just a very strange pathway that we navigated separately and together but i think it it definitely changed a lot about how we how me and my mom relate to each other and interact with each other and i think there's a very renewed level of just respect just woman to woman i mean sometimes when i think back on memories of my life there has like a gauze a patina a sort of surrealist reverie i know mentally that time has gone by but i also can feel like i can be back there in a moment's notice like that um even if it does feel almost watching a home movie and then when you were watching the home movie of you what did you think and feel and remember it was a really bizarre psychological experience for me honestly because i had the video in my house um i gave it to my husband and i just said put it into sort of like the darkest corner that you can find just know where it is and that moment of just in case happened when i was talking to amy and she asked if she could see slash use the video in the series and my first reaction was like absolutely not like no i draw the line here this is too much it is too personal i don't want to see the video i don't want anybody else to see this video and amy i don't know how she talked me into it she managed to get the video taken i i had my husband bring it out of that dark corner of wherever he stashed it in the closet and we watched it on someone's computer and my husband had to leave the room he was like i can't this is like this is too much and i was just like completely numb i watched the entire thing as though i was watching someone else just a little girl who looked kind of like me who you know sounded kind of like me you know and i just completely disassociated from it and you know they went on their way i was like please just you know let me think over using this and a week went by almost like exactly and i was sitting in my house and i just suddenly burst into tears and it just it hit me everything from the tape just i mean it punched me right in the face and i was just sobbing uncontrollably for like a couple of days on and off about what i saw and just sort of trying to mentally reconcile the fact that that little girl on the tape was me and she was talking about something that happened to me and it was overwhelming it's very difficult sometimes to know that that part of me is such a dark painful place i mean because when i look at my life now i have a wonderful husband i have a wonderful daughter i have a wonderful life and i'm really excited about you know my career writing and you know taking my daughter to kindergarten next year and all the all the wonderful things that surround me and yet there is this impenetrable darkness deep deep inside that i mean i'm gonna be honest i just i still don't know what to do with wow okay so we're gonna take another break but when we come back i would really love to talk to you about not only finding love but being able to trust we'll be right back more with dylan [Music] farrell we are back with dylan farrow i would love to talk about your husband how do you go from having the life that you had and and not being trepidatious but being emboldened i really liked him i was i was very smitten and i felt confident that i wasn't like asking for something ridiculous because i've you know seen guys and i've been like so what do you think of moving this into relationship territory and they just like book it and at the time of course i internalized that as like oh well this is because i'm messed up um and so you know how did you not do that with your husband that is a really good question i guess it was because i really liked him he did try to break up with me and a lot of that was because i had hang-ups about sex so i think it was when he tried to break up with me was when i it's sort of crystallized for me that this was something that i wanted um this was something that i wanted enough to address the things that he was talking about the issues which was sex which was from trauma which was from things that i did not like to think about so in a lot of ways it really i think it started me sort of on that path to looking inward and examining myself a little bit more critically so then did you overcome that hurdle i'm guessing it's an ongoing process i mean because in a lot of in a lot of ways i feel like sex hang-ups are something that grow with us and it's just sort of confronting the issues as they arise and not getting discouraged by them i guess um i mean what is wrong with me has been like my mantra across my life and i'm trying to change it because it's an outlook thing it's an attitude thing and the fact that it's my knee-jerk reaction you know is because of trauma it's because i internalize things and i think that everything is my fault and i think that i'm a failure and i'm you know again like what the the person that i am when i'm tanked so today say that crops up it rears its ugly head how do you whack em all that today what would your inner dialogue be today to thwart that demon it's you know honestly i i wanna know the answer to that question too because it is a work in progress and sometimes it does feel like i'm flinging pennies at a battleship and you know that there's nothing i mean like that i can say or do for myself to myself that will change anything because i'm stuck and yet you're out there being brave so what attempts did you make to reclaim your life you know like there are times when i'll be you know having a bad day and my daughter will come home from school and i'm just like okay no now i am in mom mode i am i am her mother now and this this can't interfere with that i can't let that interfere with with her um because i don't want her i don't want my problems to be her problems do you think that you're the most sane when it comes to being a parent i think being a parent has given me a clarity of being able to sort of step outside of all the craziness in my brain and examine myself as who do i want this person to be that my little girl is going to see looking up to for her entire life i i want her to think you know my mom was a fighter and i want her to think you know my mom never gave up and my mom didn't let crappy people bring her down she you know she stood up to people she stood up for the things that she believed in the things she was she thought was right um and i want to be that person too do you know that you take on a very different energy when you talk about being a parent i love being a parent i love being i love being evangeline's parent i you know she is just the light that she brings to my life is indescribable is it the best thing that's ever happened to your life yeah it really i mean i'm very lucky i have a lot of good things in my life and evangeline i feel has just elevated that when we come back more with dylan we are back in conversation with dylan farrow um how do you deal with any fears that crop up as a parent because i have mine from my own history or my own stories or things that are big triggers to me i mean i i think about that a lot because i do have things that trigger me in my daily life things that you know are probably just like completely stupid for other people that just send me completely down the spiral and i'm actually kind of proud of myself that i've gotten to the point where i can see a trigger or experience some sort of trigger i freeze and all that you know fun stuff happens the the emotions the the recall the sensations and i can process it and sometimes it means waiting through some of the negativity how do you tell people to handle their triggers if you see an image i mean i mean this happened to me like last week maybe the week before i was just you know scrolling through my uh news feed and an article pops up that you know who and his his wife went to a restaurant and i was just tailspin completely i was just like i can't handle this i don't want to see this like why are they going to restaurants anyway like i was really very heavily triggered and i was not okay and it took a couple days of me just sort of like trying to like massage myself back into a normal space can i ask do you you know if people looking in who maybe have not experienced anything like this is it the layers the repetition the many years you watched the documentary and it's it's it's really i mean the unfairness of it it's frustrating and then it makes me feel hopeless like like what was the point of it and then it's reminding myself of facts that i know things that i can tether to the documentary did accomplish something i mean i think rain reported that people were calling them at an increased rate of like about 20 during the documentary which means that survivors are out there connecting with my story and healing from it it's bittersweet thinking you know like this story is something that connects a lot of survivors who are hurting and okay what more can we do for them like how how can we make this this world a space that women feel empowered or feel at least less terrified that is so well said thank you it really is what a perfect amazing answer to that question it's tough because like i wish that i could say like here is here is like you know a 10-step plan to you know completely feeling healed and fulfilled in your life if you follow these steps you know you're you're going to be just fine i wish i had that what works for me might not work for somebody else so i think the best the best advice that i offer is just be true to yourself and and and and and the truth that you have lived as a last question uh you turn to fantasy writing i did um what do you get out of creating these fantasy worlds for yourself and what do you want other people to get from them i think in a lot of ways seeing that sort of veil of fantasy is a very appealing way for me to sort of process stories that i stories that i read how they relate to myself sort of um understanding them a little bit better maybe you know it's a metaphor or an allegory of like a dragon because like dragons are dragons are cool dragons are awesome and dragons are also really scary i was going to say they really represent like the thing that you slay yes they are there to be overcome or they will eat you alive yes and it's a very it's the ultimate metaphor for struggle is a dragon in the metaphor of the book and the closing of that circle and that loop what is your next chapter well i'm actually really excited i i've entered the editing phase for the sequel to hush and i'm looking at starting a whole new writing project and you know diving into something completely different maybe and also just you know continuing my my little life in my little house with my little family unit and seeing seeing what else is on the horizon i feel like you know i feel like uh good things are on the way i think that is absolutely full of hope full of strength thank you so much um dylan farrow the four-part hbo documentary series allen versus pharaoh is available on hbo and hbo max and her book hush is also available and apparently might have a sequel which is very exciting thank you so much dylan for coming here this conversation everything i've been so looking forward to it oh seriously thank you thank you so much everybody thank you so much and uh we'll be back [Music] welcome back thank you you rock too ma'am and um thank you for that sign thank you so much for all your signs drew's news i love it and ma'am your beautiful baby sleeping on your chest i mean come on for all us parents gosh is that not the best time or what speaking of our next guest is an amazing new mom and she comes from a lineage of hollywood legends um and political figures and award-winning journalists and yeah she was a part of a first family of california family um i think we're all madly in love with her husband in a very platonic way uh he's just like kind of all of our heroes um she is an aspca ambassador a new york times best-selling offer philanthropist and a new mom please welcome catherine schwarzenegger pratt hi thank you for having me how is it um your beautiful almost one-year-old she yeah she just turned nine months um so it's i mean she's just the cutest little angel i've ever seen and i'm obsessed with her as i'm sure most parents say about their children um and it's the most fun role and experience that i've ever had and i love it absolutely every single minute of it it's been such a joy she's perfect and um you are married to um chris pratt who is just uh i mean i've had luckily enough the fortune and privilege of meeting him a couple times he is always the nicest human being he has the best reputation everybody loves him he's like the coolest human on the planet um when you met him uh how long was it before you're like you're the one i mean we also we talk about that a lot because i'm pretty sure we both we both knew right away that that's that you know this is where our relationship was headed and we clicked you know very quickly and um and so he's the best and i'm so so grateful and it's so beautiful to be able to watch him you know step into this new role of being a girl dad and he's the best husband and best dad and i feel so grateful every single day for him i am so happy for you it's so wonderful to hear good people in the world happy you know thank you happiness is one of the greatest blessings um and i am on a new mission to really talk about the power of forgiveness what was the catalyst for you to approach this subject and put it at the forefront in this extraordinary book well thank you i mean i think that for me forgiveness the interest in forgiveness really came when i realized that i was really struggling with forgiveness and my inability to practice it and i also didn't really know what it meant to me and it really just was so helpful to me to be able to hear other people's experiences and to hear how people have struggled with it and some still struggle with it and how some people have been able to practice it and also we don't really talk about it yet we all will experience it at some point in our lives and i feel really lucky that it's been able to be helpful for other people as well there is something really for everyone in this book and i just want to thank you for leading the charge on helping people find an ability to do such a courageous important and liberating act and i know you also partnered with the baby probiotic company and vivo is that how i pronounce it yeah vevo it's crazy because you know when i think a lot about just being a new mom and teaching her about so many things and also being taught about so many things and one of the things that i i learned about was newborn gut deficiency which actually impacts over 90 percent of babies born in america and that's just a lack of good bacteria in babies guts and it's crazy because we always hear about like diaper rash and colic in newborn babies and we think that's normal but the reality is that has a lot to do with just an imbalanced gut and so just being able to have the ability to work with a company like avivo and um give an infant probiotic is just really incredible and i've had such a great experience with it but it's like one of those things that i want to share with all new moms to be able to research about newborn gut deficiency but then also just be able to give it to their babies and you have an instagram series before during and after baby will you tell us about that yeah it's been so incredible i recently did one with my mom for mother's day which was hilarious um but i i've had such a great time doing it and i um it's all things before during after baby so we talk about everything from fertility to pregnancy to labor relationships sex newborn gut deficiency really just all the different topics that we want to know more about and we have guts guests come on and talk about all these subjects and we do it every thursday at noon and it's been such a fun experience for me and i'm learning so much as a new mom so it's also really beneficial that way well thank goodness for that and also i was so excited to talk about this book and i know it's new out in paperback um the gift of forgiveness inspiring stories from those who have overcome the unforgivable yeah thank you thank you catherine schwarzenegger we'll be right back thank you [Applause] [Music] look at this gorgeousness welcome back i'm so excited to be sharing the kitchen with not one but two of my favorite people first she's my culinary partner in crime and co-author of our upcoming cookbook rebel homemaker it's chef paular valdes and next she's the founder of win coffee supply america's first specialty vietnamese coffee importer and roaster she's also an incredible activist who uses her platform to fight for social justice and racial justice please welcome sarah wynn back to the show thank you for having me we've done so much in fact we were talking before the segment pilar made sarah a special surprise yes i uh brought some um chili crisp i took her coffee out for a run and made a little chili crisp and i brought it for her today it looks amazing i cannot wait to try it and then sarah's mom was kind enough to make us her famous pork and we got to eat it for lunch so thank you oh my god i'm gonna be so happy well it's really nice to just have a family vibe here and sarah may is asian american and pacific islander heritage month and nobody is better to speak to this than you why is this so important that we pay homage to this this month first of all thank you so much for creating the space drew so for us apam or asian american pacific islander heritage month is so important to us because there's this collective effort to humanize the asian american experience and like and over at one coffee supply we're doing that by using our platform to share stories from our communities to provide education around asian american history and to amplify asian american activists well you do and you've been a really important teacher on our show and all over our digital and social media so you're just changing the narrative um around vietnamese coffee which i have been sipping on and i've always loved it with food so pilar and i were talking and we were like what about working with sarah on a coffee cooking segment yeah i feel like it was right after you had been on the show and i was like let's do recipes for their coffee so we've come up with not one not two but three recipes and using coffee so the first way we use sarah's coffee actually is as a spice rub so this one is a grilled skirt steak and it has a chili and coffee rub so in there we have finely ground coffee and then to that we're going to add some chili flakes some smoked paprika some ground cumin and some brown sugar all right so you're going to season that all over the steak yeah add it in pack it in pack it in there so that looks really great drew so what you're gonna do is pour some oil um into the hot pan just a little bit that's great and we're gonna sear off the steaks oh my gosh that cooks off and then we actually have a little bit of a swap out finished seared steak on the side and i like to serve it with a fennel and arugula salad so shall we give it a try i'm so excited to taste your beautiful coffee oh my god that coffee smells really nice it smells so good wow oh my god the spices in the coffee yeah that rub is really really wonderful no you're a genius all right shall we next up yup next up coffee roasted beets so we have a little bit of coffee we have fennel seeds cumin and so all the spices are actually whole and what i'm gonna do is lay the beets in those coffee and spices and then we're gonna cover it with a little bit of water and basically you're gonna wrap it with foil and roast it at a 375 degree oven for about 45 minutes and with the magic of television oh and i love this with a salted yogurt sauce shall we wow um i couldn't love this dish more wow so our last recipe for the day um we're using brewed coffee yup and it's in a chocolate pot or a pot the creme basically so i know i'm ready i'm ready to just dig in so what um sarah has over there with her house over there some egg yolks and we're gonna um there's some sugar in there as well and we're gonna whisk in actually some of the brewed coffee okay the whole thing yeah yeah so she's gonna whisk that and then she's gonna combine the egg mixture with the chocolate mixture the chocolate mixture in front of her is just some warmed up heavy cream and some chocolate that has been melted and mixed through and then sarah when that's combined you're going to mix in the softened butter the room temp butter so you've got everything in the bowl and you let that set for at least two hours and we topped it with a little whipped cream because why not are we feeling it now yes absolutely burn up [Music] oh my god i'm dancing you guys i think i just got weak in the knees this is insane thank you so much sarah thank you pilar for blessing us for these amazing recipes cheers cheers cheers [Applause] for all three of these extraordinary recipes and be sure to check out win coffee supplies so you can get your hands on this delicious coffee we'll be right back [Applause] from aquaman to baywatch really we just went down there to meet ladies jason momoa have your kids seen game of thrones oh god and i'm flying with an all-female crew from the u.s air force how do you feel about being about 12 feet behind another aircraft all new drew on the next crew barrymore show before we go it's time for another check-in with the drew van our road tripping couple noah and karen have been making their way across the country from california and they'll be joining us here in new york in a full a few days but today they're helping us surprise a very special small business owner in washington dc there they are now but first let's meet kathy olefin wilson she's a veteran who thought outside the box and turned her passion for giving presents into a business with her company blush boxes that delivers curated gift boxes and kathy is joining us now along with abc 7 reporter and our good friend of the show kiddo shay hi kids [Laughter] hi drew oh my god i can't believe i'm meeting you oh what a wonderful opportunity thank you so much i feel the exact same way and kid i'm always happy to see you great to see you again drew thank you for having me back beautiful kathy please tell me about your extraordinary small business and how it came about so drew i decided to start my business about a year and a half ago right before the onset of covet because i wanted to utilize my gifts my passions and my abilities to give myself back into back to the planet i really wanted to make sure that i was operating in my gift and transitioning from my career to my calling i felt like it was important for me to again give my gifts and my talents to people and to help them deal with the stresses that we're currently experiencing right now absolutely incredible i love that we would be honored if you would join our little book of smog businesses gift guide if you go to the drewberrymore show.com you'll be seeing kathy's amazing blush boxes featured and then it will live permanently on our website for everyone to see and go to thank you so much how cool is that it's so cool by the way cassie have you heard about our drew vann i sure have noah and karen just pulled up with something special for you they are here look at that [Laughter] and it's a donation to plush boxes the hug curated we want to help continue to make your business the success it deserves to be and is thank you so so very much oh my goodness thank you five thousand dollar check right behind you all yours i can go back here you can go back there go touch it thank you kid and kathy so much thank you so much um and karen we'll see in new york soon and to all of you at home i hope you have a great rest of your day take all of this goodness with you it's for you and thank you for joining us so much we'll see you soon [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Music] you

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Length: 43min 4sec (2584 seconds)

Published: Mon May 17 2021

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