Donald Trump, Conor McGregor, & The Rock: WWE Superstar Chris Jericho Talks with Larry

on Larry King now wrestling legend Chris Jericho I couldn't be the biggest guy in the show but I could be the biggest personality and the biggest character and that's what I focused on I never I never considered myself a rust like you I consider myself an entertainer who is currently on the list well I mean anybody that that makes me mad but it's also a good thing to people everyone wants to be on the list now that's the thing when you start as a bad guy like I used to I was calling people stupid idiots and people were booing now cookie stupid idiot can you put me in the list you're supposed to be mad at that look my son Don Rickles he shot me exactly exactly right we live in a world now I call it the era of the celebrity president now with Trump no previous experience knows how to work a camera knows how to be charismatic that's what you need to be the president now we've we've already established you don't have to be a governor you don't even have to be a senator Plus Chris Jericho in ten years still here talking to you Larry and Larry King now I'll still be entertaining people I'll still be doing what I'm doing because that's all I know how to do you want Evers to be working at a bank so I'll next on Larry King now [Music] welcome to Larry King now my guest is Chris Jericho wrestler musician podcaster and New York Times bestselling author Chris is known as one of the most popular and charismatic professional wrestlers in history having won a multitude of World Heavyweight titles throughout his career in the WWE EC WWF and WCW outside the ring the Ayatollah of rock n Rolla is the lead singer of the rock band Fozzy ante hosts a hit podcast called talk is Jericho on podcast one.com his new book is no is a four-letter word how I failed spelling but succeeded in life you failed spelling oh no is a four-letter word right all right how did you come up with that title what does it mean well I mean it's uh I find that no really is an ugly word because people throw it out very easily and they accept it very easily it's also hard to say sometimes well it's hard to say and it's hard I was it for me was always hard to accept it because when I was a kid I wanted to be in a rock and roll band and I wanted to be a wrestler and although everybody said was no you'll never do that and I always never I never accepted that I was wanna deconstruct the know and find out how can I make it a yes so I've done three autobiographies in the last eight years and I like to write I got a lot of great stories but do we really need a fourth Chris Jericho autobiography in like 10 years exactly it's not Jack Kerouac or anyway or somebody so people would always ask me how did you make it in rock and roll how'd you make it in wrestling so what I did was I went through my life and I picked 20 principles 20 lessons that I learned from famous people fictional characters friends and put them all into this book about how I learned all these lessons that enabled me to achieve these goals and make these dreams come true so this is a book to help yeah it really is I still filled with ridiculous stories and then it's still me right but you know the Vince McMahon principle work hard and then work harder the Yoda principle there is no try there's only do the gene Simmons principle always look like a star always always dressed for success all those little tips can help you get what you want in life and I realize this by putting it in this book it really is I'm the new Tony Robbins and he had Paul's family of kids write the foreword huh absolutely the thing about Paul was he gave me this quote when I was 16 years old I saw him on a documentary and he said the only people that tell you you can't do something are the ones that have failed and I always thought that was speaking to me like you can't tell me I'm not going to do it because I believe in this so to have Paul 30 years later after this quote sparked off this career of mine then he writes the foreword of it it was like a real like full circle moment did you have a mentor I mean I think not necessarily a mentor one there's been a bunch of them was there any one piece of advice I mean I think I think just actually Vince is a pretty big mentor of mine I've been working for him for 17 years Vince McMahon he's a very unique character Vince you know very well right we've done shows together with you and I love writing about Vince because he's such a unique wacky motivated amazing character and he'll never write about himself because he's too humble isn't like talking myself so I'll write about him in my book that's the way I like to do it you know how did you get with the WWE I've been working for years at that point in time because when I started wrestling I was pretty small at the time it was all like the Hulk Oh Gators still John's 3 I never will be but what I could do I couldn't be the biggest guy in the show but I could be the biggest personality and the biggest character and that's what I focused on I never I never considered myself a Russell I consider myself an entertainer because that's what I brought to the table that was different from from the guys that were really big I could focus on that did you ever worn a box no I was not I was always at show business you once again I wanted to be in a rock and roll band and I wanted to be a wrestler to me like my dad played pro hockey for 10 years I was a terrible hockey player I'm not you know boxing it wasn't disciplined enough but the show business element the character the portrayal you know that sort of a thing committing to playing this this other person how do you try out for WWE as you wrestled before I've been wrestling for nine years around the world that's all areas was various that I was a star in Mexico Japan you know Europe and then finally at that point in time it took me nine years before word gets around and then you finally get in now they have a big training center down in Orlando they sign guys they think we'll make it they go down there for two three months and they train and they start learning how to get in the business vince has seen you wrestle I'm not sure he did one thing about Vince is like I always say that it doesn't matter what you've done outside of those of those walls until you walk into a WB ring and Vince sees you with his own two eyes I don't think it matters what you've done I think his his his people had told him about Chris Jericho and he might have seen a few things but I don't think he really knew who I was and what I could do or what I had potential to do until I got there and as good as I was after nine years getting into the Vince world was a completely different thing why is WWE and I've been on that show yeah Monday night yeah absolutely why is this so successful I think because it's it's it's a variety show it's a modern-day morality play if Shakespeare was alive today he'd be writing Demidov EE shows because there's drama there's comedy there's there's emotion betrayal conflict romance but it's staged of course it's staged but sources Shakespeare plays and so are the best movies you've ever seen you know you and I could go see the newest I don't know pick out any movie the new Fast and Furious movie and we go watch the movie like this is a great movie we know it's not real we know these cars can't do flips and all these other things that happen but within the confines of that movie it's magic that's what wrestling is why the fans go so crazy the same reason why you go crazy at a boxing match or go to the movies you get into it I find that the three biggest the most focused craziest fans are WB fans kiss fans and Star Wars fans they're never happy they're super loyal they'll buy all the merch they complain but they love it and they're there for life have you retired I've been not a full time that would be performer for both the last seven years but oh when do you wrestle I just finished up a whole stent back in May take some time off book comes out other shows other opportunities then I go back keep it you keep it fresh that's another of the principles it's a the David Bowie principle reinvent yourself constantly keep things changing if you're get in a rut change things and that's what I do how I failed spelling but succeeded in life and always a four-letter word our guest is Chris Jericho my conversation with the WWE legend continues right after this don't forget the book no is a four-letter word how I failed spelling that succeeded in life stay with us on Larry King now I guess he's one of my favorite people Chris Jericho he's been with us before was great having them is there a lot of camaraderie in the WWE yeah there is it's like it's like being at war you see your old war buddies I've never been in the army but I said I haven't seen them in 20 years and it's like a day haven't passed it's the same in WB you spend so much time with these guys and then when I leave for two three four five months you don't see them and you come back it's like your old buds are there are moments when you really get angry in the ring not not not now not this level this is a professional but there was times I mean especially going overseas Mexico you get in fights with guys in the ring Japan it used to happen all the time because they would always try and teach a lesson to the foreign guy so you basically just have to punch them back it does happen from time to time we might get a little heated with somebody but it doesn't break down into a full-fledged fight in the ring sometimes there's fights backstage you know once in a while I've been in a few myself but you have a close buddy from the wrestling world yeah there's quite a few you know this guy you do you went into acting like John Cena go yeah yeah what do you make of like Cena what here's what I think we talked about seeing anytime with the rock you talk about Batista talk about Jericho we all have that Vince McMahon work ethic and another thing is there's no prima donnas in the WBA you've been backstage you see how it is you're expected to do your job you're expected to do the press respect to do whatever it takes to represent the company and represent yourself so whenever we guys like us come out into Hollywood guy like John work ethic through the roof attitude amazing press what do you want me to do what else can I do to promote this it's like dream a dream performer for the for the people out here explain the phenomenal success of the rock just work ethic work ethic talent charisma not taking no for an answer I made it all boils down to rock cares all those things he doesn't have all those things and he'd run for president absolutely think he could win absolutely I'll tell you the reason why they why we live in a world now I call it the era of the celebrity president started with Obama and a little bit now with Trump no previous experience knows how to work a camera knows how to be charismatic that's what you need to be the president now we've we've already established you don't have to be a governor you don't even have to be could be a failed president well I agree but but in retrospect but he still got in so if you have a guy like the rock who comes on with super charismatic he's a big guy he commands you know he has a presence about him he could win he could win let's talk a few current and former UFC fighters might step into the WWE ring I mean would they do well well let's all show business like you said in Conor McGregor's got the personality for it we did something with Floyd it's funny here's how there's so much here much so how much we were I remember when Mayweather Florida wrestler well yeah but we were on your show with me Mayweather and you and Vince so I went back to find that last week and then I realized that I had done an in-ring confrontation with Floyd I was in his face I said listen little man I will knock you out I'll knock your ass out I had totally forgotten about it until I was looking up our show with you and me and then found that picture you know it is you do so much stuff sometimes you forget these things that you've done but Floyd did good because he has the gift of the gab Conor would do great as well because he knows how to talk he knows how to sell tickets that's what's all about so there were a lighter people like that who wrestled absolutely guess not I mean Floyd actually wrestled the big show yeah you know because its size doesn't matter in the WB it's just so think Ronda Rousey would do well absolutely same thing it's show business she would do great there I I would be I bet you she'll be in the devil to be before Connor will be I really think that it's just economy well and Connor still hates yeah you're not gonna get Connor for anything less in this day and age did you expect him to do what he did I thought he did a great job I was expecting Floyd to win completely and I think people might have underestimated Connor a bit like he's there a boxing match to a big deal he's a UFC champion you could punch that guy in the face ten times he's not gonna go down as we saw but the inexperience of the conditioning is what led to him losing but it was pretty was the perfect finish he looked great Floyd wins 50 Andoh retires had Connor gone the distance or even won it would have been horrible for boxing because it would have shown the it would have shown a guy with no experience can come beat the best of all time pound for pound so it was a great finish a great fight and everyone got their money's worth how do you explain the fact that McGregor never hurt him never hurt Floyd you never hurt him Stephanie was hit them in the first three rounds I bet it's like a callous like you know if you and I go to play guitar lift weights to get the calluses on your fingers the calluses on your hands I bet she's got a whole body callus and just years of getting punched where it doesn't affect him he was rope-a-doping him Larry I mean totally was he was tiring him out the old Ollie trick and that's exactly goddamn exact you arey what where he wanted where you can see McGregor and like round nine just like just standing like just end this now right but the experience up next I'm putting the great Chris Jericho in the if you only knew hot seat you don't want to miss this we'll be right back on Larry King now the back with Chris Jericho the new book it will be another bestseller no is a four-letter word what about the band Fozzy yeah we've got a bigger kick to you as Wesley I like to do them both unless the thing people say if you can only choose one I don't have to I do them both and right now we have a number one song on on satellite radio for five weeks in a row so to see the band growing the way that the wrestling career grew you're going to do another album absolutely actually anyone comes out October 13th what's the song Judas is the song Judas about the guy from it's about betraying yourself about you always be people we always make bad decisions and you know it's a bad decision but you make it anyways you portraying yourself that's kind of what the lyrics revolve around any bands you'd like to collaborate with well we toured with Metallica back in 2013 that was amazing you know obviously the biggest band in the planet but not just how they play but how they act the the how they treat their opening bands very classy organization you know the yeah I mean I've always found that the bigger the star the classier they are so always the guys in the middle that that have the problems ego problems and stuff but I mean anything you could anytime you can do something with Metallica's it's thumbs up for sure you play a little game of the few only new all right all right here we go who is your childhood celebrity crush who actually was fine the first crush I can ever remember having is uh remember Mary Hartman Mary Hartman of course I don't remember was Louise I came over her name was but Mary Mary Hartman was my first and then also uh Charo I love ro when I've been here yeah best piece of advice you ever got actually my dad told me you got to sell yourself no one's gonna call you you got to pick up the phone and call people and beyond get off the port absolutely yeah worst piece of advice you a guy drink another shot of whiskey what's your most memorable wrestling moment match wise probably had a ladder match with Shawn Michaels in 2008 that was a culmination of this amazing eight month long story that's probably my favorite match for all those reasons story of you and him just the store was a nice guy no I always I've been WB champion six times all of them as a bad guy so let me tell you that tells you which one I like better so bad guys win they can well yeah they have to that's how you build it up for the good guys to get revenge in the end strangers fan encounter it's always strange to me when people have tattoos of you actual Chris Jericho tattoo of my face some of them are great some of them aren't they look like maybe like a zombie version of Jericho but you still have to be nice oh that's great thank you so much man is that your real name no my real name is Irving Chris Irvin yeah who gave you Jericho that's pretty good yeah I got that uh Joshua fit the Battle Tower when I first started and I hated Cowboys and stuff they wanted me to be like cowboy Chris I don't know Caspar or something like that Casper Wyoming so I needed a name quickly and there was a cassette tape of this German heavy metal band then the album was called walls of Jericho and I was like I don't want to be covered Chris I'll be Chris Jericho alright Chris Jericho days who's a wrestle from yesteryear you'd like to have faced I probably the late Owen Hart he passed away before I got to the devil to be but that would be a great one who from history would you like to take to lunch man I'll go I'll go John Lennon for now I could change yeah person you'd like to switch places with for a day along the same lines I think you'd be interested to be like Paul McCartney or Mick Jagger some of that everybody in the world knows just to see how it would be to live that for one day biggest risk you ever took I'm probably jumping off the top of a 15-foot high steel cage into the ring I talked about it in this book just because I wanted to see if I could do it you know I was 43 years old we had a key landed on both feet I landed on the guy so I'm doing a crossbody from the top of the guy and I'm like out give it a try what's the worst that can happen death but I didn't die I'm still here what's the worst injury of a head I've actually almost I'm actually really well known for never being hurt the only time I've ever been hurt I had a I broke my arm I see this scar I got a steel plate and that was in 94 the only time I've ever missed a time in wrestling in 27 years was a seven week period in 1994 other than that never been injured I did you break it I was trying to flippity dippity move because I thought I could do it I was doing off a diving board and I just tried to decided to do it off the ropes and it didn't work as well as the diving board secret talent secret talent a really good barbecue or I can barbecue a steak like a mofo real good guys need to try it superpower you wish you had flying maybe or x-ray vision to see through the ladies dresses guilty pleasure early 90s rap MC Hammer Vanilla Ice Gerardo I like that stuff for some reason what's something still on your bucket list it's weird mad because I got a chance to do so many things I'll say start a movie leading man in a movie not bad yeah something you wish we should be paying more attention to oh man I mean you could say the environment I think that's something I have a Tesla lariat which is like you just plug the car I know amazing what an amazing car powerful powerful I think a little bit more of that a little bit more of of treating each other better with the way people treat each other sometimes on the street or other countries or other ethnicities I don't like that I think we're all need to be nicer what do you think of Tesla with the smaller car I think it's great the affordable one I mean I mean I think probably the car companies are you know having heart attacks right now because it's basically the end of an engine there's no more engines necessary Tesla has no engine no oil nothing it basically plugs in and it drives itself so I think that's very very important because you think of the driverless car interesting right not for me yeah I like to be in charge I like to have my line of thought oh yeah you know I like the idea of if you take your eyes off the wheel for a second it will get your back but I could never just get in and just go it's a little bit too Terminator for me I would also not trust it so I mean that's a little bit just Terminator Skynet taking over you know Chris Jericho in ten years still here talking to you Larry and Larry King now still be entertaining people I'll still be doing what I'm doing because that's all I know how to do you want Evers to be working at a bank or in our final moments Chris will answer your questions sent in on social media the book no is a four-letter word don't click away I guess is the great Chris Jericho I always love being with him his new book as Noah's a four-letter word how I failed spelling but succeeded in life the foreword by Paul Stanley we have some social media questions all right Aaron J on the Larry King now blog Kevin McDonald Trump when he did his stints on WWE yeah I met Trump a bunch of times he even gave me a bottle of his vodka when it came out so so thanks for the vodka mr. president was he nice yeah yeah yeah he was a lot like Vince a very air of confidence like tinge of arrogance but very friendly at dub 209 what is your future hold after wrestling basically more of this I love to write books I love playing with with the band the podcast is going great like I said there's a lot of opportunities and I you are acting as well absolutely Lisa berry on Facebook who would be your dream guest on your podcast Paul McCartney now he's a great guy yeah yeah you've been on with him a lot of times Lesley also s and then also say to that interrupter it was actually an honor to have you on my show Larry when you came and did it I mean just to have oh I loved it whenever whenever I put the list of guests I always put Larry King right at the top so I'm one of your favorites absolutely Hirano man on twitter wants to know who is currently on the list you I understand people you have a beef with right yeah it's the list of Jericho it's just a throwaway thing that I did that became like this iconic thing who's on the list well I mean anybody that that makes me mad but it's also a good thing to people everyone wants to be on the list now that's the thing when you start as a bad guy like I used to I was calling people stupid idiots and people were booing now call me stupid idiot can you put me in the list it's like you're supposed to be mad at that like my son Don Rickles he sought me exactly exactly right Gwen's loss on Facebook what do you make of the current state of politics in the United States it's interesting men the most I'm 46 it's the most decisive time in politics as far as lying down the middle team a and Team B it's a little bit scary it bothers me once again because are we concentrating on the betterment of the country or we concentrate just on not liking the President or liking the president this is my suit yeah divisive exactly and this is Khonsu on twitter who has influenced you the most in your wrestling life from a from a learning standpoint Vince McMahon and his right-hand man a guy called Pat Patterson he's in his 70s now but I learned more from Pat about how to structure a match about the psychology of wrestling wrestling is all psychology it really is it's not the moves it's where you do things how you do things where you put them and selling the story of the match and I learned I'm almost all I know from pat pat paterson lewis read on read 2020 on twitter what goes into training to becoming a WWE wrestler it all depends you know that is for you what was training like you have to train yeah obviously have to train and it was all you know lifting weights and all that sort thing but once again like we talked about with Mayweather and Andy McGregor cardio is so important and now for me my training consists of basically just riding my bike 20 miles a day at this path that I have near my house I don't lift a lot of weights anymore because cardio is more important but if you're starting you actually have to obviously is a physical looking business it's an aesthetic business but cardio is very important at Kali odorous 5:00 on Twitter who was your toughest opponent ever throughout your career I had some great ones I loved working with Shawn Michaels like I said the rock was always fun the rock actually because he's so popular now in Hollywood people forget how good of a wrestler he was he was a great wrestler inside the ring always fun to work with him when you say great well since its state what makes a great wrestler well connecting with the audience is so important but also within the ring the physical things you can do the moves that you do together you know I always say and you'll find this interesting wrestling could be an Olympic sport because it's as much of a sport as synchronized swimming or gymnastics or figure skating it's two people doing a planned routine so if you had like Team America do a match and the judges would vote then Team Russia doesn't match then Team Canada does a match it's the same thing the judges would vote who they thought did the best performance together and that's what wrestling is you're working together like a band that's exactly right like a dance same thing I never thought of it that yeah maybe that's be my next thing all right but if you're fighting X on Tuesday right do you rehearse that bout you don't have time we work four days a week sometimes more a lot of travel when you get it's like being an improv jazz band when you're that good you just follow each other follow the changes let's try this let's do this you might rehearse something that maybe you've never done before one move or something but as far as the whole match that's impossible you just don't have time and plus I can't rehearse if there's not people in the crowd I'm not doing a bunch of stuff I save it for when the people are there that's the adrenaline that you get great seeing you again malaria thank you so much always a pleasure big thanks to my guest Chris Jericho be sure to pick up a copy of his new book no is a four-letter word how I failed spelling but succeeded in life as always you can find me on Twitter at Kings things and I'll see you next time [Music] you

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Length: 25min 54sec (1554 seconds)

Published: Tue Oct 09 2018