Does it Live Up to the Hype? | Asobo ATR 42 / 72 - Full Flight Review | Real Airline Pilot | MSFS

important of maturity at gate 48 in preparation please use a q system provided have your own voice settings [Music] hello again everyone and welcome back to the channel in today's video we are finally going to be taking a look at the Sobo ATR 42 and 72 600 series we are a day late hopefully not a dollar short here on the review unfortunately pretty busy work initially and then just as I came to record I actually came down with a cold so apologies if I am sounding a little bit croakier than usual in the video today the ATR is a joint collaboration between a Sobo and Hans Hartmann some of you may be familiar with hanza's previous work namely within Microsoft flight simulator I believe he also developed the Aerosoft crj anyway the ATR retails at a very reasonable 20 even lesser at the moment currently in fact the aircraft is on sale to premium Deluxe owners of the SIM the Sobo is marketing the aircraft under their expert series Banner the ATR is of course the first expert series aircraft to be released for the Sim as a result it is going to be very interesting here to see what the product has to offer though tempering my expectations a little firstly given the price and also having seen a couple of other reviews here out of my own given the price point of the ATR I've opted to go for a review flight format here today as opposed to a full review nevertheless as always I'll aim to give you the best opportunity to see the aircraft in terms of its graphical Fidelity obviously here its sounds as well we'll get a good feel for the aircraft systems as usual we will be carrying out the full flight we're currently on the ground at Wellington airport located on New Zealand's North Island I'm going to be taking the ATR up north towards Gisborne the flight will run all the way through from a cold dark start right through to the shutdown at destination and quite a long video for you here today as we did end up covering quite a lot along the way it is worth mentioning from the get-go that once again we haven't Sobo released it's really lacking in documentation unfortunately with an aircraft of this complexity it's far from an ideal situation so I had a bit of a dig around online I found a checklist available for the flight one the ATR for those of you who remember that that's what we're going to be using here today so there may be a few differences a few discrepancies a few user errors here on my part throughout the video but as always certainly we'll be covering everything in enough depth and with enough accuracy to give you a good feel of what the Sobo ATR is all about so good morning and welcome then to a rather beautiful day here on the ground in New Zealand's capital of Wellington on stand 79 here in the ATR as we've discussed I'm sure the cockpit will be very familiar to many of you at this point there's been a prolific amount of content put out on the ATR to date in terms of the startup process we're going to run through things here using the flight one ATR checklist unfortunately once again we have a product here that didn't really come with any documentation so things might be slightly out of Secrets From what we've seen previously but nevertheless it's a pretty logical sequence and it'll get the aircraft started up in a reasonable fashion so starting with the preliminary cockpit preparation the battery master switch can go on they're now supplying DC power to the aircraft you'll see that momentarily the aircraft will run through some startup systems tests so we'll just let those initialize we'll cancel the master caution in the meantime continue on with the checklist the parking brake is set the power levers are set to ground idle prop levers are set to fuel shut off EC is selected on lights out same there for the PEC Gus lock is engaged flaps are selected up and again lever is down three greens pop break is selected on and that's ready to go wipers are both off ordinarily we'd carry out an engine to fire test but I find the click spots are a little bit fiddly it's quite easy to actuate the fire handle instead and that's going to make life pretty difficult later on so we'll say that we've carried out an Engine 2 Fire test the enemy fuel pump can go on and come one selected on [Music] Beacon is on in preparation for the start interesting the aircraft loads in there with the beacon on ordinarily the beacon of course would be off until we've got the engines running so we're going to be starting the number two engine in hotel mode which again I'm sure many of you are familiar with at this point given the amount of content available on the ATR Hotel mode essentially we're running the core of the engine there running the gas turbine so we'll have pneumatic and electrical power coming off the number two engine but the prop break of course keeping the prop in place so safe for any ground crew whilst we're running the engine essentially using it as an APU so for the number two start we'll bring the start selector through to a B for the first start of the day and engage the number two starter keep an eye here on the NH we're looking to we're up through 10 cents just coming through 10 now we can bring the number two additionally over through to the feather position introducing fuel into the engine again canceling the master caution you can see there the oil pressure coming up and the ITT there as well just waiting there if the engine to stabilize [Music] so we do have a good start there on the number two we'll take the number two generator on the DC Gen 2 on same there for DC gem one obviously seeing a fault right there at the moment with the engine not running then we have established electrical power for the fuel quantity we've got 1 100 kilos there in each main tank so 2200 total on board which concurs with the flight plan to lights we'll test those having a good scan around the cockpit overall I don't find the lighting particularly spectacular in the aircraft I have to say lights are checked we'll go back to brights for daytime conditions for the bleeds again expecting to see a fault there on engine number one cross bleed valve is open pretty hot down the back there at the moment 33 degrees we'll leave the temperature select is where they are hopefully things will start calling off now we've got some air going down the back and checking the avonics vent that is set to auto moving on to the cockpit preparation checklist internal lighting set as required fuel pump number one is set to run doors we have both the cabin and the cargo door unlocked currently and just testing the door switch spoilers we're looking for lights out landing gear again confirming down three greens mfcs again no lights still use that to auto and again we should carry out ninja one fire test but we'll hold off on doing that again for the same issues as with the number one external lighting for now just the beacon and the nav lights that's set as required merch exit lights can go to arm and we'll get the passenger signs on aircraft already fueled up the ice again we're just looking for lights out currently which we have probes and windshield Heats can go on and again just looking for no white lights the AC wild electrical power will take both generators on there showing fault lights currently we won't have any AC wild Power until we move the prop levers through to the auto position hydraulic power again turning all of the hydraulic pumps on and again just looking for no white lights low pressure currently of course with the engines not running the emergency locator transmitter is set to Auto and guarded cabin and copper temperature selectors again we'll leave those as is cabin temperature just starting to come down auction main Supply is selected on and will carry out a compartment smoke test [Music] and again just canceling that last caution the trims they're set to neutral well they're just going to put in a little bit later on trim here I find about one unit right later on trim tends to have the aircraft flying a little bit more stably overall so everyone trim is set will set the elevator trim later on once we've calculated our takeoff performance radios VHF radios we're not going to need for the flight today as far as our Navigator is go as well it's going to be not enough departure so we won't need to tune anything up initially for the departure in terms of tcast we'll set the traffic to above for now and transponder currently set to standby scoring seven thousand they're ready to set transponderous sets idle Gates is selected emergency audio cancel a little bit tricky to see here that's hidden just behind the number one condition lever that is guarded radar can go through to standby the eadi and ehsi they are of course best selected on and for the source there we've got we've got fm1 there on both sides down by instruments our check no Flags power management is set to take off engine instruments are checked and it controls our check we've got no white lights there we'll carry out a stick Pusher stick Shaker test coming down to the left hand maintenance panel there's actually a variety of tests that we can carry out here but we'll just go for the stick push today just to demonstrate so you can see there the stick Shaker the stick Pusher is modeled and again just closing up that maintenance panel and his kids he selected on lights out so that's the preliminary copy of preparation set up complete and we are now ready to move down towards the FMS and we can set that up for our departure so down at the mcdu we'll select fms1 pretty easy to set up the aircraft overall there are a few bugs we'll talk through those as we go so firstly on to inits and we'll go to posnet just to lining off the GPS position and we can initialize there are sensors we'll hit return onto the nav data not sure whether or not this is actually correct or accurate but it seems as though the nav database is quite out of date which is a bit of a shame for a new product then next down to the flight plan inits we'll go to roots departing as we said from Wellington which is November Zulu whiskey November and we're going to be flying the aircraft up towards Gisborne today which is November Zulu golf Sierra what number is Air New Zealand so out for November Zulu eight two eight two and we can execute that very much the Airbus style in terms of setting up the departure which is nice so going to Wellington going to be departing on Runway one six it's going to be the uprog one Quebec departure and that'll be out by Waypoint comet once again we can hit execute so we'll just build up the rest of the room manually here definitely one of the bugs I found with the unit currently is it doesn't seem to accept Airways it tends to freeze up the mcdu and after which point you can't use it any longer so definitely a little bit of a bug there currently anyway for our route today from come out we're going to be tracking out towards Bennett just Bravo India November India Tango after Waypoint bin it it'll be Papa Mike then on towards Waypoint yarrow which is Yankee Alpha Romeo Romeo Oscar from yarrow be the November Romeo so for November Romeo you can see we've got three options there of course we want the New Zealand nav database South 39 so we'll select that from November Romeo it's going to be white Point domon Delta Oscar Mike Oscar November and again we want zero 39 and lastly Waypoint got no golf Oscar Tango November Oscar and that takes on to the arrival so once again we'll hit executes and again selecting Gisborne we'll find the honor of three two we'll probably go to mate primarily a visual approach into Gisborne but we'll use yarn out just for guidance initially going to be coming in via the Hawk 2 Bravo arrival and that'll be via Waypoint up clip and that's the FMS Flight Plan set up we should have a discontinuity in there so we'll just clear that up cancer style continue present heading and hitting execute once again and we'll just briefly run away through the flight plan out towards kamet off the departure three towards got low and then joining the Hawk 2 Barber rival for the RF Runway 3-2 as you can see pretty easy to set up the flight plan overall with the aircraft indeed the FMS in general quite easy to set up again just minus those bugs that we've already mentioned so flight plan sets next we want to enter the aircraft weights there if you wait for the flight today is 20 282 kilos so two zero two eight two and feel on board as we discussed is 2200 kilos or two two one six to be more precise that's giving us a gross weight of 22 500 Kilograms so just blow Max takeoff weights reserve for our flight today is 677 kilos that's including our diversion fuel so that's our diversion plus 30 minutes alternates day is going to be Rotorua we'll enter that in just a moment's time take off CFG 29.6 that's giving us a takeoff stab trim of 0.8 up the perfect flight level is going to be flightable 190. we do want Max Cruise as the mode default flight path angle three degrees ultimate again as we said Road Traverse so November Zulu Romeo Oscar and increase light level after alternate is going to be flight level 170. keep speed one eight zero knots and two you have passed seven miles so the perfect now complete we have our takeoff speeds as you can see once again Wellington Runway one six transition altitude is 13 000 feet and for takeoff speeds we have v112 br112 and v2115 we can set those up later on to display on the PFD so the FMS setup is complete we'll just briefly departure again it's going to be the uprog one Quebec departure off runway one six it's not enough departure so again no navigates associated with the departure itself it's going to have us initially tracking out towards the south towards Waypoint Urban we've got a Max restriction there of 200 knots until the turn is complete that's fine for us today we're going to be climbing at a speed of 170 knots and that does comply with the ATC speed requirements of maximum of 170 knots minimum 150 towards Waypoint Eggroll we do have some pretty significant High terrain out towards the east and the northeast of the fields so MSA for the departure is 6600. there's no stop Heights on the departure we just need to be above 5000 before he commits a turn so we'll set flight level 190 later on for the level off altitude otherwise it's a beautiful day here not really much to say with regards to the weather lastly in terms of the taxi we're currently understand 79 as we discussed no need for a push today so we're just going to get the aircraft started we'll come off right onto Quebec then Bravo will take Bravo six most likely and then on to Alpha flexing down for the holding point out for two take a slight in section departure this morning anyway that's our preliminary cockpit setup completes hopefully things are starting to cool down down the back and we'll get the passengers boarded fairly shortly as usual take a quick one to three the cabin there get a feel for the level of modeling detail and we can come back to the flight deck once we've finished up the last of our preparations and we are ready for the start of Row one and two window weeks it's in row 10. in the event of an emergency call lighting will guide you to these exits the safety on board count also illustrates the location and operation of your last jacket infant life jackets will be provided by the crew civil aviation rules require you to comply with all crew instructions inside aircraft it just went last final reminder all transmitting devices must now be in the flat note option Okay so we've just finished the last of our preparations everybody's now on board the aircraft we've got the doors closed up whilst you're gone just running through a final few items so making sure we've got the destination airport elevation set it's an automatic system on the 600 ATR series it takes data directly from the FMS I believe for the Airdrome innovation altimeters are set speed bugs are set we've got Auto they're on the speed selection talk bugs and trims so we just need to set the elevator trim and again we said up 0.8 units I would question that trim setting though I will talk through the takeoff later on but the aircraft essentially seems to auto rotate during the takeoff at the moment which is very unusual so talkbox and trims are set com nav ADF and transponder are sets your quantity once again just checking we have 1 100 kilos there in each main tank seats and pedals last cure doors are closed and we have some checklists to work our way through here really nice on the aircraft we have the checklists modeled as part of the ccast system there are push buttons down here but obviously that's a little bit tricky trying to use the push buttons and look at the screen at the same time so one nice concession we have here there are actually some click spots provided on the ccast which we can use to work our way through I'm not entirely sure whether this counts as part of the sea castle whether it's just the left-hand section but we'll just refer to it as the sea cast for the flight today so actuating the final cockpit preparation checklist Parker break is set we're not going to work our way around checking everything here just for the sake of the video otherwise we're going to be back and forth to the screen quite a bit but we know already we've got the part bricks set our temperatures have been checked and set Landing Innovation is checked fms.com and nav radios are set kill quantity once again 2 200 kilograms of fuel on boards pure used no need to reset their first flight to the day nice as well you'll notice the screens actually produce automatically the page you're looking for as per the checklist memo panel they've got elec AC wild one and two hydraulic system loss air beat one various anti-icing hydraulic blue low pressure hydraulic green low pressure expecting to see all of those at the moment and part management once again is set to take off so that's the final cockpit preparation checklist completes and now moving on to the before propeller rotation checklist so CDLs is on FMS and take off data is once again confirmed v112 vr112 v2115 trims another trim neutral anyone trim should be neutral but again we've discussed that already just a little bit of right only on trim and 0.8 up there on the elevator trim teleprop has been removed doors are once again check closed seatbelt signs are on and the beacon is on that's the before propeller rotation check this complete no one's going to just confirming the beacon is on and we are now cleared for the starts so just a couple more items to run through prop break can come off and as the prop break comes off we should start to see the NP increase we just wait until we see that come through 10 cent which already have up through 16 cents so we can now move the number two condition lever into the auto position as the prop runs up we should also now receive AC wild electrical power there off the AC gen 2. you can see that just kicking in so it looks like we do have a good start there on the number two we can do the same for engine one the start sector once again set through to start a and b fuel pump start to run and we'll engage the number one starter take an H coming up again looking for 10 NH there's 10 cents and the prop lever coming through to the feather detent and once again on the MP just wait until we see 10 and then we'll move the condition lever through to the auto position start reducing speed two two zero knots there we have our 10 cents the number one in auto um once more we'll just wait for the engine to stabilize and looks like we do have two good starts so if the AC wild electrical systems both generators now online hydraulic power looks Goods perhaps we can set through to the takeoff position so 15 degrees and we'll just wait here until we have flaps 15 indicated flip flaps are sep take off once again the anti-skid is on my brake can come off we'll just hold the aircraft here on the brakes momentarily in preparation for the taxi we'll get the taxi light on there as well extender lights are set parking brake is released we'll scan the instruments on the way out just running through a few more checks here before we commence the taxi once again bleeds are set the camera temperature now looking much more reasonable as you can see around 21 degrees AC wall power is checked cockpit com hatch is check clothes we actually have a nice little hatch here you can use that to transfer documents on the ground since there's no sliding Windows here on the OTR for the autopilot signed altitude again we have flight level 190 selected and indicated there on the PFD the departure we have heading select in low with oh no I've armed the speed we have V2 plus five so 120 knots versus 115 there for v2 M4 CPL which I presume stands for couple we have the autopilot there coupled to the left hand side what Rich bars are both on for the ethos panel will select navigation display I'll just come through to the full display a little bit fiddly there to get the click spot [Music] so the nav display is set and lastly just carrying out a takeoff config test so config is checked and we'll carry out the before taxi checklist so before taxi flight warning system we'll hit recall nothing displayed there copycom hatches check closed condition levers are both set to Auto anti is not required Tru is selected on and guarded anti-skid tests will carry out on the taxi and for flaps 15 selected and indicated baseball stirring is selected on and that is the before taxi check is complete so we are now ready for the taxi as discussed we'll hang it right here on to Quebec and then joining Bravo Crossing onto Alpha and taking the holding point out for Alpha two overall the HR actually taxis rather nicely I've never flown to Turbo prop so I don't know whether they ordinarily taxi under idle power but certainly the ATR will here in the SIM that's pretty typical of any reasonable weights you can usually tax the under idle power that's nice to send a similar to aircraft don't tend to get that right currently as you can see we've got the power levers there all the way back and picking up a nice speed also nice that the aircraft doesn't run away from you taxis at a very reasonable pace so looking out towards the South again a beautiful day here in Wellington passing Carolina departure track does feel sitting quite close to the ground here as they were taxing rather fast we're only doing nine knots which is perfectly acceptable for a turn but it feels much faster than that as I say [Music] Santo Bravo left here on to Alpha they'll be left and then right we'll just wait until we've got ourselves onto Alpha then we can carry out up for takeoff checks 3 000. centuries out in Cafe Triple one so overall I actually really like how the HR tax is I think that's one of the product strengths we are all clear on the left obviously they don't generally purchase a product for its taxiing capabilities alone but it's nice to see nevertheless [Music] okay so taxi now down Alpha as I say holding Point Alpha 2 for the departure today so for the before takeoff checks the Gus lock let's make sure we've got ourselves nice and straight here before we carry out the checks gas lock is released flight controls we have full up pull down neutral the left all right neutral we're not going to check them out of here as I'm using that as well to activate the noticeable steering takeoff clearance has been obtained so lights strobe lights can go on same there as well for the landing lights the ccast will hit recall once again nothing pertinent for us there transponder onto the surveillance page we'll set the transponder through to the on position and tcas once again is set to above here of the climb radar we'll come through to weather not anticipating that we're obviously going to need that today with the conditions such that they are displaying weather nevertheless there on the nav display uphill so we'll just come up on the power to avoid losing too much speed here in the taxi one thing I did notice I forgot to mention that earlier on it does seem as though even with the gust lock engage you can actually bring up the power levers to quite a high power setting I'm not sure that that's probably accurate anyway continue on with the checks both engine prop levers are set to the auto position so I'll just continue down the taxiway here out for holding Point Alpha two just a couple more items one more checklist to run and then we'll be ready for the departure foreign six just completed the before takeoff checks this way here to work through the takeoff is to just come up through to the notch power setting with the aircraft on the brakes it can be a little bit fiddly to get the bottles into the detent that being said the detank can be adjusted we'll talk more about that as we make the climb but for now anyway as I say holding the aircraft on the brakes just bring up power levers so throttles are a notch and take off off the brakes keeping an eye there on our engine power settings aircraft is pretty sensitive on the rudder initially Paris sets and we have to put in quite a bit of forward pressure here as well on the yoke That's Not Unusual it's the same on the Airbus initially just coming up through 70 knots however as I discussed there on the the ground the aircraft will actually auto rotate without any forward pressure which is very strange and interestingly the crj did the same thing which I believe was made by the same developer that's V1 rotates they're back on the Yoke again very little input there from me the aircraft wanting to bring the nose wall up with his own accord so we have elnav climbing in is they're following the flight directors positive climb Gear Up foreign come through to the climb power setting and as we do say that speed automatically increasing to 170 knots of the climb just wait until through f-speed then we can retract the flaps SO pitching the nose down and the fight director's now commanding our turn out to the left through F speed so the flaps can come up thanks I'll just hand fly the aircraft for a short period of time here to get a little bit more of a feel for its handling overall I'm a little bit on the fence about the ATL's flight model it's a pleasant enough aircraft to fly it's actually very easy to fly you can see the flight directors here working very well it's pretty stable overall especially once you've got that aileron trimming with that being said the flight model feels fairly lightweight in terms of how the aircraft actually responds the control response is pretty instantaneous again very stable hands off the controls that I can see sitting on the Fly directors and the flight director is working very well there they are actually giving us the commanded speed anyway we'll Center up our heading bug once again we can Engage The your damper and the autopilots I've noticed the aircraft tends to overshoot the turn here but that might be a coding error you can see a little bit strange in terms of how the departure is coded there so just to give us a little bit of a helping hand we'll go direct to waypoints egg roll 175 24 you can expect the base turned in one minute it doesn't seem to have helped the situation much just wait until we come up through 5000 feet to make that turn that's coded in the Box it's actually great that the aircraft hasn't made the turn just yet come out on the Range on the nav display we'll just make the turn a little bit early here again just help the aircraft out we're visually clear of course today with the terrain so I'm coming to heading Japan and once we've got ourselves nicely established outbound we'll run through the after takeoff checks all right slightly hazy early morning conditions here as you make a way of the coastline here at Wellington just leaving the airport behind Cafe cleared the GLS approach and again we'll just waiting to up through five thousand before we turn back in towards the terrain don't just come out from five thousand and go direct to open ad lack and back into nav once again we have elnav there on the FMA one thing that does prove quite nicely the aircraft will accept direct twos overall I found with the exception of the bugs that we mentioned already with the mcdu or the FMS it seems to work pretty well actually the units as well though do seem to be somewhat independent they do crosstalk you will notice that we do have some of the information entered in there but for example go to Flight Plan slightly strange in terms of the display and I found that certain things don't switch across there's a little bit of error again I think there with the mcdu anyway running through the after takeoff checks autopilot is set on external lights we'll take the tax lights off engine power management is set to climb transition altitude is uh 13 000 so we can hold off there for now and actioning the aftertake of checklist Lana gear it selected up lights out flaps are up power management once again is set to climb engine bleeds are selected on and just holding there at the takeoff lights until we come up through 10 000 feet 4 000. so it just came up on 7 000 once again we'll Center up the heading bug s that's where the FMS overall the autopilot actually seems to do a pretty nice job we'll obviously get more of a feel for that during the arrival as well but having used Vita if that seemed to fly the profile pretty nicely the other attempts I've made to fly the approach into Gisborne seems to work quite correctly in terms of managed speed again we're holding 150 knots the flight directors there are accurate the aircraft will maintain the speed very nicely for us to get a real mixed bag overall with the aircraft I do find that some things work quite well on the HR but overall it just doesn't give me that quote on quite study level feel I think to call that an expert series probably a little bit generous anyway as we continue to climb here another 2000 feet till we get the landing lights off we'll just run through a couple of items firstly we'll just briefly work our way through the efb although perhaps more importantly before we do that we might as well enjoy a little bit of the scenery so Wellington passing off the left wing you might just about be able to make out the port there as well a bit of an interesting route today we actually crisscross the Northern Ireland a couple of times personally tracking out towards the west coast and then Crossing back over towards the eastern coast so as far as the FB goes firstly we have a payload manager which on the face of it looks quite nice but actually I find the functionality here is a little bit backwards rather than the weights here being displayed so that we can then input the data on the mcdu in fact you have to enter the data on the mcdu to be displayed here on the payload manager also as far as I can tell no option to set up the way to balance of the aircraft by the menu as opposed to using the Sims inbuilt menu so that's a little bit odd and I would like to see that functionality change around really you want to have the figures available here too enter into the FMS that's much more typical for most add-ons that's why you can see we have a series of operating speeds nice to have there in case they're not readily tanned otherwise so for example during the arrival later on we'll be able to take first stage flaps below 185 knots give below 170 and the second stage of flap below 150. the performance we have the takeoff data calculated automatically so V1 was 112 same for VR and v2115 as we saw there in the FMS we also have a landing data calculator which is nice we'll definitely be using reverse later on into Gisborne it's pretty short Runway anticipating dry conditions I required runway length there is two two six eight at our current weight and again fairly short run where you've got 4 300 feet available uh the approach later on is going to be again one one two knots just come up through ten thousands we'll get the landing lights off and seat belt signs can go off there as well so just actually in the next item on our checklist and we're now waiting for 13 000 feet to set the altimeters in terms of the aircraft options seen some of those already we have a ground power unit option no visible model there as far as I'm aware just the option to have Grandpa selected through the copper controls we can open the cargo door same for the main door we can install the tail prop on the HR 72 wheel trucks we can install as well and lastly we can open up the service door there are State options we have cold dark external power Hotel mode which we've discussed and ready for taxi I did briefly try the ready protection option that didn't actually seem to get us into a relative taxi State the engine still went running so maybe just a few tweaks needed there as well maintenance again looks very similar to the crj so we have the option to refill both the engine fire bottles and same to have the auction Supply and we can reset the brake temperature again as far somewhere no real failures modeled on the aircraft are not really sure why you'd need the engine fire bottles but nevertheless I suppose it's nice to have some basic maintenance functionality and lastly in terms of aircraft options we can choose between hectopas girls and inches of mercury for the altimeters and cheats well not as well the atom to sync across the board temperature unit Celsius or Fahrenheit same for weight we can have kilograms or pounds you can choose the watt sensitivity the autopilot disconnects just come up through 12 and a half thousand feet there so another 500 feet will set the altimeters avionics mode I haven't played around with there but you can choose between eosa and FAA I wonder if that relates to Buffett margin not totally Shaw PFD throttle hint you may have noticed that during the takeoff we can choose to have a throttle position hint display there so I don't believe that's accurate to the aircraft but it's nice to have saves you looking down see what detent your throttles are in that's 13 000 feet we'll set the altimeters to standard is now current to the win two three zero eight knots q and H 1023 interestingly 1012 there on the standby and standard there on the right as well that's interesting despite having them set to sync it doesn't seem as though they actually did sink again just come out the range here on the nav display um once again just centering up our heading bug yeah so the throttle hint I think is a nice feature obviously you don't have as much tactile feedback with typical Sim Hardware as you would with the real aircraft increase the limits at which the autopilot disconnects also the tools resolution I'm not entirely sure what that refers to full setup is worth going through before you fly the aircraft I've seen some people mentioning they've had issues with the throttles personally so far I haven't had any issues with the aircraft throttles and I did I did configure those ahead of time lastly as mentioned already the aircraft does have some click spots available on the various mfds you just complete the after takeoff checklist there as well so check this complete it's coming up through flight 140 another 5000 feet here in the climb as a quick reference here you have all of the various click spots displayed for the various pfds generally I find I only use the ccast display click spots the rest are not too difficult to use in a more typical fashion so that pretty much outlines the efb functionality not bad overall fairly basic but nevertheless I'll tell you just above average in terms of what's available anyway just coming up through flight level 150 so another four thousand feet here in the climb again we've got the seat belts off despite it being a fairly short hot for us here today the her is by no means the quickest aircraft in the world so we're going to be in the cruise here for around 30 minutes overall as usual just briefly head outside the aircraft take a little bit of a closer look at the external model in flight and I think what we'll do here for the arrival we'll come back just at the top descent we'll get the aircraft coming down then we get everything set up briefly arrival and if we've got any extra time there we'll just cover off a few items for example in terms of what I think of the aircraft sounds and the overall graphical fidelity information seven bucks star 6000. 95 [Music] [Music] fixture foreign [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] I hope the nine thousand blocks all the season s 34 70 kicked Islanders so welcome back to the flight deck of the ATR let's discuss we're just approaching on top of some points just keep the mass simple we're up at roughly flight level 200 which means we need around 60 miles to complete the Descent here as you can see showing 64 miles to run so if all the aircraft's done quite a nice job there of calculating our top percent points this year we're going to descend down to 2000 feet we'll discuss that more once we brief up the arrival but we'll appreciate that here on the mCP CC about one thing I don't really like about the aircraft displays they're actually quite hard to read you'll probably have noticed that during the video anyways flight level 2-0 sets and just come up on top of the sense you can see we do have our Vina path someone engaged V nav we have been about star interesting to see how the aircraft behaves there I did actually find earlier on I leveled off just below or as you can see just above what level 190 I tried to finesse it with vs that didn't work and thereafter we were stuck in outstar [Music] obviously there's speeds starting to increase so bringing the power levers back that wants to drive us right up to around 245 knots we'll stand a little bit below that just to give us some margin that way we're not going to be fixated on the speed here as we continue around with the setup we'll just come in on the Range again on the nav display you can see I've selected the terrain display here as well obviously you know weather around so not much Point having the weather radar up whereas there's some fairly High terrain going towards Gisborne anyway we'll set the aircraft up for the arrival first we can brief thereafter they're expecting the hooks to Bravo on our rival and then flying the r p runway 3-2 again we're not specifically going to be find the rmp approach here we're just going to be using it for the purposes of navigation just to bring us around onto Runway heading almost to be flying a visual approach here today so first setting up the MDA we're looking at an MDA 440. yeah 19863 cancel star turn left heading one two five five we have 440 selected there for the MDA again just coming slightly further back on the power levers one thing I have noticed there isn't a lot of finesse between Idol and low power setting you can see there are idle speed really coming back and if we even just nudged the throttles up one millimeter more we're pretty much maintaining speed that seems a little bit unlikely perhaps that's some sort of mode on the aircraft or perhaps it's modeling the Proctor scheme I'm not really sure there but anyway you don't have much of a nest with the speed there as I say it's coming down through flight level one six zero you can see maintaining nicely here I'll be enough path overall that does seem to work pretty well on the aircraft in terms of our performance for landing once again planning on for reverse dry Runway and we now require 2234 feet 4 300 available at Gisborne coming on to the performance page well the approach transition altitude or transition level is 15 000 feet q h 1007 this morning wind Auto populated by the SIM and the approach one one two it's going to be a flaps full Landing let's come back onto the progress page for now they're just coming through flight level one five zero that means we need around 45 miles to run and still looking good there at the moment it's pretty easy to get the ATR slowed down nice and quickly so you don't need to be particularly conservative with your approaches you can really gun the aircraft in and slow down at the last minute the evor approach not that we're planning on flying it but we'll have it as backups if we come on to nav we've already got the Gisborne VOR there tuned up in the standby so we'll switch that across to the active I'm on four two show about 37 miles to run direct to the field and similarly as well the core selector on br1 we've got that selected for the runway heading that's pretty much it in terms of the setup for now we'll briefly approach so once again we're expecting the hooks to Bravo on a rival that's played 10-2 Alpha not much to say there really again it is an rnf star Innovation off the chart 15 feet that's going to bring us in from the West then we'll track back out towards the north Once We join onto the rmp the RP on approach course three two three again error during elevation 15 feet starting the approach of 2000 feet hence why we've selected two thousandth now by the mCP e will be descending later on down to the mda440 I'm not entirely sure how it's done in the ATR I have seen in the slow boat series there you can actually select the MDA as your pre-selected out so you still do that here today A little bit different from the Airbus it's Max of 210 knots that's obviously going to be fine for us left turnout towards kopua and then holding at 2 700 feet in terms of the terrain there is pretty high train around Gisborne both out towards the west and the North we've got to train out to West up to around two and a half thousand feet and the MSA out towards the North 6200. whether that's the same as we saw out of Wellington a really nice day visibility has actually cleared up a little bit so that should help us in terms of spotting the runway later on in terms of the runway again Landing Runway three two it's a pretty short Runway so again full reverse manual braking and we'll have to backtrack the runway later on to vacate as we discussed on the ground at Wellington Rotorua is the alternate day we need 677 kilos for the diversion currently showing Landing with around 1400 kilos on board and in terms of what the aircraft currently has on board 1500 so that seems like a reasonable figure overall I did plan an extra 30 minutes as well of course not having flown the HR much not knowing how accurate the fuel burn is therefore that fuel the arrival looks pretty reasonable that's the briefing complete just coming down through ten thousands we'll get the belts on once again and the landing lights go on we'll run through our descent checks instead of The Descent checklists again just coming back into idle briefly here on the power just to give us some speed margin the ecass once again we'll hit recall no pertinent items for us there seat belt signs have been turned on the same clearance we have autopilot in Vietnam paths Landing lights are on below 10. and we are now below transition so once again we can set one zero zero seven with all three altimeters I'm running through the Descent checklists my warning system has been recalled Landing elevation is checked FMS nav and performance Pages have been sent checked the MDA again 440 and the arrival briefing is complete and that is The Descent tracklist complete so once again we're just going to be tracking out towards the Northeast about towards Waypoint kapua we'll get the aircraft stay down about five miles per Caper just help make the turn we'll keep ourselves coming down now and v-nav for 2 000 feet and as we approach compare we'll set uh 500 feet continue The Descent in V nav once a visual with the runway we can disconnect them or fly a manual visual approach all right received 179 5 so just approaching Waypoint Cooper you can see there the bay which gisborne's located the runway somewhere else to start 10 o'clock approaching five miles so we'll start going back to idle now on the power start reducing that speed this feature and automatically switch into the approach mode but if needed we can always come to the Perth page and activate that manually we'll just leave things for now see what the aircraft does I think about 60 miles to run 5 000 feet so still in good here in terms of the profile and happy that we're going to make two thousand above it per person we'll set 500s and that will have us leveling off just above the MDA we're back to I don't know the power levers well they don't have to speed back around 180 knots here for the turn in terms of the approach check seat belts are on Landing lights are on altimeters are set and checked camera altitude is set and that's the approach checklist complete so you can see the speed bug there has automatically come back to 170 knots so we'll maintain that for now 280 we can take the first stage of flaps tonight 63 10 right 10140 thanks 180 so we'll just take one stage of flat for now flaps 15. just give us a little bit more drag help reduce that speed further we'll come back to around 160 we should make the tone quite nice you know as a result and you can see three and a half thousand feet just making the turnover Kapoor so we're fine there in terms of our altitude restriction we'll see they're heading back around just to save us one less thing to do later on projects and Below 170 knots we can take the gear down we'll just hold off on that for now I'm sure by Turbo prop standards this is a pretty conservative approach again you can't keep the speed up quite a bit of drag on the aircraft it seems so you can get slowed down nice and quickly they're really flying the aircraft a little bit more like a jet here but force of habit not visual with the runway just yet we'll keep a good eye out for that the aircraft is slightly under shot the turn here you can see we're just going back onto track now and again quite difficult to read these screens just coming through eight miles so eight miles will take the gear down and again just maintaining 160 knots for now so coming back up on the power levers the poor Landing checks cabin crew have an advised landing gear it's holding off there for three greens we have down three greens flaps currently 15s we'll just hold the checklist for now aircraft is quite nice in terms of speed stability easy to control speed with the power levers which is great for this sort of aircraft makes it much more enjoyable to fly it's going down through 2006 miles so profile's still looking good and again we've tracked the v-nap path very nicely all the way down the approach here visual now with the runway the aircraft I have noticed does have a slight hiccup you can see we're switching between V now path and another vertical motor I'm not entirely sure what we've got vinov out star that's I think to meet the Restriction here at waypoints let's have back into being our path again just wait until we come below 150 we can take claps 30. there's 150 and flaps 30 coming back now towards the approach which we said was one one two we'll hold the approach you can see that the terrain displays while working quite nicely just finishing up for Lane checks then flaps I'll check the set power management come back through to take off power tlu is set to low speed icing conditions no need to fly icing speeds external lights are set and that's the before landing check is complete so visual with the runway just come out to speed we'll take the autopilot out and your damper off eight miles to run contact the tower one two zero decimal five minutes let me through 700 feet so another 300 will be through the MDA and showing four whites are on the puppy currently so a little bit High reducing the power Just increasing that rate of descents again pretty short Runway here at Gisborne so we'll aim to get ourselves in the touchdown Zone and straight into full reverse 500. let's check to 500s minimum okay continuing [Music] still a little bit high should come back onto puppies momentarily 200. 100 a little bit of a stutter there from the SIM 30. 20. okay we need to put the aircraft onto the runway here and four reverse coming onto the brakes pretty quickly there again short Runway which set the props do the work for now off the brakes we'll try and keep the brake temps down for a fairly short turnaround and again having to almost Force the aircraft might as well back down again the nose really wanting to stay up anyway scrolling through to the end doesn't say We'll backtrack the runway and vacate off to the left [Music] so backtracking Runway 3-2 just vacating off the left to get the aircraft slowed down for the turn just went to a clear the runway and then we can run through our offline checks but a short taxi in towards the terminal as you can see okay so clear the runway hang lights can come off same for the strobes Maps can come up engage the gas lock and just start selector can go off comrade is a set transponder can go through to standby once again and we'll get the weather radar off here as well according to the checklist I'm using we could do a single engine taxi in towards the bay here but that's going to complicate things somewhat so we'll leave both engines running slightly busy here on the apron so we'll keep a good look out here as we taxi get ourselves nice and slow and we'll get the taxi light off as well looks like stand two's free right next to the terminal so we'll take that [Music] and onto the brakes heartbreak is set um running through the parking and shutdown checks just action the offline checklist first so Radars standby flight controls are locked flaps are up trims I believe we want to reset the elevator trim to one unit up and we can reset the airline trim there as well so trims are set Ting strobe lights are all fancy ice is off probes and windshield heating is off Tru is off and at least two minutes at idle power we can shut down the number one we've already discussed that we'll just shut them both down now again for the parking shutdown heartbreak is set we'll shut down the number one first and good shutdown there on the number one again we're going to be using Hotel mode here whilst we default the plane on the ground in Gisborne so we'll come back to the feather detents on the number two we'll leave that running canceling the master caution and we can Engage The Prop rate once again [Music] and the prop break is now engaged just taking a look there at our MP you can see we are showing zero so once again the number two engine running there acting as our Apu here as we deep all the passengers speaking of which passenger signs can go off and that's the shutdown checklist complete so an enjoyable fight out there in the ATR a little bit of a mixed bag as usual we'll just finish up the video here I'll take a few minutes to discuss the product and what I think of the asobo ATR series so there you go guys I do hope you enjoyed our outing in the Sobo and tartmann ATR once again a little bit of a mixed bag for Me overall of course aircraft is very well priced once again acebo have marketed the ATR as an expert series aircraft and as we discussed during the flight I think that's quite a generous term overall broadly in terms of fidelity I think it's fair to say the aircraft is roughly On a par with the likes of the crj perhaps the flyby wire A320 as well another good example of roughly where the atr's Fidelity lies product certainly does some things well but as usual it does have its weaknesses we'll discuss those starting with the weaknesses and we'll work our way through to what I like about the ATR so firstly again in terms of the aircraft being an expert aircraft I don't think that moniker actually applies as with the term study level there is of course no dictionary definition but I think expert series certainly conjures up images of something like the Phoenix Airbus A320 or the PMG g737 again for me the ATR is more On a par with the crj or the flyby wire A320 particularly it's very similar in as much as there is some systems depth there the aircraft does do certain things very well there are also quite a few bugs quite a few strange issues with the product one of the big noticeable issues for me was the mcdus we've discussed those a bit during the flight firstly the aircraft didn't seem to like entering Airways for me that locked up the mcdus to the point where I actually had to restart the flight in order to regain functionality of the aircraft so there's definitely quite a few Gremlins in the works there a few things that need ironing out and as ever it would have been nice to have seen those ironed out before release I was quite surprised at generally how well the automation worked certainly the autopilot for the most part did a good job I did have a few peculiar situations along the way and the same goes with the general systems depth not bad overall but there were one or two things I would question a few things that seemed a little bit off in terms of graphical Fidelity accidentally I thought the ATR looked really nice internally the modeling very good the texturing I wasn't quite so sure about the panel coloring looks to be a little bit off to me and the screens as well a little bit dim also quite hard to read as compared with the crj which I actually think is a really nice looking add-on within the Sim I do feel that the ATR looks a little bit dated sound wise as well a little bit of a mixed bag there I don't know quite how accurate the sounds are internally but certainly from a turbo prop I was expecting a lot more noise in the video here today we have the sounds cranked all the way up usually I have to turn them down quite a bit during editing the rest of the soundscape is generally decent for example you do get master cautions Master warnings write out call outs things of that nature I gather there are some inaccuracies there as well but I don't think anything that's going to put the average user off lastly just touching on the negatives of the flight model again the aircraft has this tendency to auto rotate during the takeoff I do find that interesting again the crj had the same behavior made by the same developer certainly that behavior wasn't correct on the crj and I suspect the same is true here with the OTR one last negative Point again is the lack of documentation whilst that might be excusable to some degree with some of the sobo's previous releases certainly with an aircraft like this you are going to want some documentation although in assembos defense they have produced a video series the series was actually created by a real world ATR pilot there's some great info in there so I'll leave a link to that down in the video description below touching on the FPS before we move on to my positives arguably the FPS here could end up in the negative section the ATR is pretty FPS intensive I was getting around 39 FPS in the aircraft versus around 86 in the default system 152 of course there is a lot of glass real estate within the cockpit and these sorts of figures will vary depending on your system configuration as well as your Hardware options but nevertheless a 47 FPS loss is a pretty hefty hit so moving on to what I like about the product I do think some people have been slightly overly critical of the Sobo ATR once more we are looking at a fairly cheap offering here and an aircraft which I think does quite a lot right for the price and it's clear I think despite the nomenclature that the product isn't really intended for those of us who do enjoy our study level aircraft it's really more of a mid-range intermediate product with that in mind then overall I think the system's depth is pretty good there are certainly some issues mainly around the FMS as we've discussed already systems depth was such that I could pretty much run through the entire checklist everything was clickable and seem to have an Associated function Associated modeling going on behind the scenes so for me whilst I'm sure there were some inaccuracies I was quite happy in terms of systems depth the same goes with the automation whilst I did have one or two peculiar events occur as a result of the automation onboard the aircraft generally speaking it did a pretty good job it does still feel like a jazzed up default aircraft in terms of the automation there are still some Strange Behaviors but I found there to be enough Fidelity to get the aircraft quite happily from A to B certainly as well if you want to take the aircraft on the likes of that Sim you should be okay there accidentally I thought the aircraft looked pretty nice internally by no means bad again there were some nice areas of the cockpit but I do feel it doesn't quite hold up as well as we've seen with other aircraft coming in recently and lastly once again touching on the flight model I don't really know where to pin that it's probably more of a neutral category overall the aircraft was pleasant to fly pretty enjoyable didn't really have any vices other than that auto rotation during the takeoff the ATR was also a very stable once trimmed easy to keep on the flight director bars I will say though that it didn't really feel like I was flying a medium-sized aircraft the control response was pretty Snappy and really I think the most succinct way I can describe it it felt as though I was flying a piece of computer programming as opposed to an actual aircraft it was very much point-and-click in terms of its flight characteristics so if you are looking to fly the aircraft for the sake of enjoyment and of course there's absolutely nothing wrong with doing so then I think you'll be very happy with the ATR overall if however you are looking for a more accurate ball Fidelity flight model then personally to me it didn't come across as though the product offers that in summary I did enjoy my flight in the asobo ATR and I can't see myself flying the aircraft again with a few rounds of bug fixing and hopefully as well some updates to for example the soundscape maybe some of the internal texturing I think the sober ATR has the foundations of a very solid very enjoyable product really ideally suited to those intermediate simmers amongst you a lot of money that I paid for the ATR certainly I am happy with the product and I suspect many of you would be also again just so long as you aren't looking for a die-hard study level experience to me it does seem as though there's enough of a split here between the Sobo ATR and the possible Blackbird simulations ATR so I do really hope that Blackbird continue with the development of their product I really enjoyed our spot of regional turboprop flying within the Sim so it would be nice to have some more Hive density options available anyway that just about concludes for today's video a little bit of a marathon for you so thank you very much if you made it towards the end if you enjoyed what you saw then please consider giving the video a like if you want to see more content from the channel then please consider subscribing as well as always a huge thank you to my channel members and patrons for all of your sports we've got a few new joiners recently as well as a couple of members and patrons approaching the three year mark so again a very big thank you I do hope that all of you are having a great day wherever you are take really good care and I will see you all again soon

Channel: Into the Blue Simulations

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Keywords: Carenado, Microsoft Flight Simulator, MSFS, Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020, Review, Full Flight, Realism, Realistic, Real Pilot, Flight Simulation, Addon, Add on, Flight Simulator, Tutorial, How to, Start up, World Update 13, World Update XIII, Expert Series, ATR, ATR-42, ATR-72, ATR 42, ATR 72

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Length: 72min 19sec (4339 seconds)

Published: Sat Apr 29 2023