DNA Journey

and tonight martin and roman kemp i think with me and my dad it's it's oddly like a brotherly relationship i feel like my dad and gary are so different in their own ways that i kind of feel like i feel the void of like the brother that maybe is more similar to my dad than than gary i think we spend more time together than a lot of father and sons i love being around him you know he's he's my best mate i mean how old are you now 58 58 59 next week 59 next week and you still don't know the story of your family uh no [Music] because the bloody me is really german and irish and uh so you think but you don't know that you no no i'm just saying that's what i'm saying we would know because because i don't really know you know i've never really looked into it how could you say the blood in me is irish and just telling you well i don't know no well i don't know i just feel it when i grew up there were so many secrets in my family so many uh questions that you weren't allowed to ask as a kid there's nank yeah my dad was the sweetest man wasn't he he never had a bad word to say about anybody you know i remember asking my mum and dad about family tree stuff and he would say oh we can't talk about that we don't know about her do you know my mum's mum was called florence appleby you never met her she died when i was about 16. my mum used to say to me her mother was born in egypt she used to have this great story that her mom used to live in an egyptian palace because these applebee's went out to build the railway in egypt didn't they i don't know she didn't know that much it is that side of the story that i would like to know because my mum i felt like she was kind of at these rose-tinted glasses right so she think you think she was overselling it you know what do we want to find out do we want to do we want to go that far find secrets that maybe you shouldn't have found i'm quite nervous about it i think it gives you a new sense of gratitude when you see what's gone before you i've grown up having the most privileged life that a kid can have and to see what my true kind of heritage is will be really interesting how do you feel about meeting new relatives you don't make your current ones we haven't had a new one round in about three years no i don't know yeah but christmas we lock the doors and close the blinds we're following martin and roman's paternal line and roman's maternal line oh gotta move up ah all right here we go dude you got any idea where we're going i haven't got a clue i don't know what i'm doing no it's night time leaving london i know [Music] [Music] starting at night time's a little bit weird because i'm trying to think where can we be going that's i don't know yeah i don't know it's all kind of james bond yeah what no james bond or serial killer there's a little bit of me that's quite nervous about it i'm really nervous are you yeah i'm glad you said that that's an in-house like i'm not sure who i'm going to meet and you know what if well if you don't like it we don't like relatives anyway no but where was the last time you invited a relative over for dinner years ago yeah you don't even invite gary mum does years ago oh hang on oh dna alert here we go first one first one dna alert roman we've retraced your mother line you have a rendezvous at 8 p.m sharp tonight to find out more just follow the pin drop below the british museum that's got to be important your rendezvous is after hours oh so we're going to the british museum and it's closed when it's closed yeah why mum's side of the family right all that story that goes back into egypt waffle i honestly thought that oh my goodness that made my stomach go over that made me feel really sick yeah it's great you're going to be meeting someone called brad brad bring any bells no so this is museum street so we i think we're oh we're here now we're here oh i'm nervous oh of course pointing there [Music] right go on then what do you reckon who's brad i haven't got a clue who brad is are we looking for brad the egyptian that's what i would like to know [Music] hello hey mate see you okay thank you look at this place how amazing oh my god in the museum there is a document that relates to roman you're okay good this is cool wow no entry oh you're actually doing it yeah come on can't do that come on dad come on just come through there's no one here visions of antiquity yeah and what does that mean yeah go in this one egyptian i know all right well let's go in come on yeah good idea [Music] go put your torch over here no i work hard bring your torture hello what the hell are they what are they this is creepy welcome to the brief museum oh my god you must be brat i am indeed can i just say i love the fact that you also look like you've raided tombs before as well maybe i can address the part yeah i like it my name is brad and i'm a family historian and i can find the truth in family stories why do you think we might be here well my wife tells an interesting story about her family moving to egypt her great-grandmother used to live in the palace with the king and we always went oh yeah really yeah okay yeah exactly yeah i've got a little clipping from a newspaper kingfire of egypt recently received a letter from mrs margaret clements who said that she was born in egypt of british parents her father william appleby served the egyptian state railways for over 40 years wow what when we say the name applebee yeah do you have anything in your history yeah my great-grandmother was married an applebee yeah that's right wow so william appleby he's your three times great granddaddy yeah oh my god this is weird roman's three times great-grandfather on his maternal side was william appleby whose daughter margaret wrote the letter to the king of egypt she said she wished to revisit the land of her birth and see the graves of her father and mother and asked his majesty to grant me my passage to egypt and back in reply she received a letter informing her that the king has been graciously pleased to grant your request and has given orders that the expenses of the journey will be defrayed by him wow did william appleby work directly with the king it's just very strange that you'd write directly to the king yeah like yeah and get a reply and get a reply yeah why are you getting a reply so if you want to give me that back for a second there's something else i'd like you to have a look at okay this is actually the electoral register for newcastle oh there is where yeah probably ellswick street newcastle westgate wardross oh my god i'm a geordie you are who would have thought so this is before he went to egypt right yeah this is where he was born yeah the story of the applebees starts in newcastle and that's the thing i love about these kinds of stories one man one woman make a decision that changes not just their lives but the lives of their children and ultimately your life the railways in egypt were booming and they were crying out for people with particular skill set and that's where william appleby saw his opportunity we all thought nan was talking we did all of this sorry now yeah the crazy thing is there's a connection between my great great great granddad the king of eggs [Laughter] [Music] starting [Music] right we are literally where you grew up we are in islington see that movie theater there yeah that's what i saw my very first x-film don't call it an x-film it was a mix film that's what it was that's what it used to be called that's what it used to be 18 and overall okay i mean something else now oh no no right my old house if you go up to the lights and you do a right and just follow it down [Music] so we were the one right next door to the pub the middle floor was our family yeah and then that was the room i was born in mine in gary's room the one with a white curtain yeah you were born in the same room yeah there was no bath in there so where did you go where did you wash there was just a sink there was nothing else and everybody used to take it in turns and that was like once every week all i remember is that it was a house that was that never had any money but it was filled with love absolutely my mom and dad gave us gave us everything that we would need yeah you know my mom and dad loved each other they showed me and gary love it never felt like i was skin you know never felt like that the only times once or twice i caught my mum crying because she couldn't afford to pay for dinner and stuff yeah and that would they were the only times that have stuck in my mind you know when gary and i both escaped from it at the same time from being in a band together we could take our mum and dad on on this like incredible journey yeah that they'd never seen you know they ended up touring the world they ended up hanging out with a band that was like one of the biggest bands in the world at the time and um they came from that yeah seeing you know that then looking at everything that you know you've achieved when people say who's your hero is the reason why i say it is you of course it is how can i not but how can i [Music] no martin already knows that his grandmother was called eliza crisp but she died before he was born and he was never told anything about her so it's just up here we're looking for mary's path right it's got me next to the church it's amazing i love being back around here oh here we go look down here who are we looking forward in today someone who's going to jump out at us hey hang on ah who's this gentleman hello madison my name's louise louise raw and i'm a historian and i've got some interesting things to tell you but first of all martin what can you tell me about your family and specifically your father's side of the family what do you know on your dad's side my dad's side really i know a bunch of pictures i don't really know history or anything like that where they come from or where the line started my granddad's name was walter kemp and he married eliza crisp and that's all i know so eliza chris means something to you actually eliza hetty ruth crisp not your name can you look on there and see if you can find if you look under crisp oh chris here you go so chris starts here ah eliza that's a yeah can you see place of birth it's lincoln so there you go another islington well that was it so that's where eliza grows up yeah now isn't it at that time it's not great it's dirty it's awful it's violent so it's nothing like we imagine it to be now she's the first child but her mum emma has five children right in fairly quick succession because she can't cope and she is you can see the name crisp there crisp yeah emma asylum she in 1906 when your nanny is only 10 years old gets taken in to clayberry asylum but what we have to think about is your poor nan she's 10 years old effectively yeah she's then lost any kind of maternal comfort and she's the oldest child what happened with a lot of kids in those days chris yes look at workhouse eliza hetty ruth and emma sophia so they went in together the two girls going to go into this workhouse and the three boys of the five kids stay at home with dad right that must have been incredibly hard to split the family up the sad thing is that there was a shame to it they talk about pauperism it's a horrible horrible word because they talk about pauperism as almost being a defect in your personality they're basically saying being poor is bad yes so therefore it's kind of almost as if they're bad children they're bad people so they have to train it out of them by being incredibly strict sometimes sadistically strict i'm afraid to say there were horrible punishments for children in workhouses there was a punishment day on fridays and everyone watched children being punished children being flogged in front of everyone until they passed out it's the maddest thing it just you paint a picture of such a hard life and it must have been and i think looking back at you know eliza and her mum and it's just it's such a sad picture and it doesn't surprise me that this is my family line but what does surprise me is how close it was that it's my dad's mum but he never once mentioned she grew up in a workhouse and that's why i don't know the stories obviously because they didn't want to tell me they didn't want to tell my dad in eliza's case being in a situation like that having to then feel like you're looking after your other sibling as well i mean you're not looking after yourself you're looking after two people right if she was allowed to stay with her little sister which she might have been let's hope she was we can only hope she was her childhood ends completely doesn't it at ten yeah after that there's no comfort there's no play if she's with her little sister she'll feel once she's very responsible wanting to look after the little one wanting to make things better for her wanting to get her as much food as she can so she's effectively a mum yeah of her little sister yeah at that age oh my goodness my granddad he used he used to talk to me i used to ask him a lot of questions and and i know that he would say that his mum was pretty strict you used to say that yeah yeah but i have to say he was pretty strict and i remember tough just tough yeah eliza could have looked into the future i'm sure she would have said i would want things to be better for my descendants and i'm sure they'd have been so thrilled if there was any way they could have known about the opportunities that you could have through their resilience and hard work actually it gives me quite a kind of a warm feeling pride yeah yeah because look at the resilience that must have been there the struggle that they've had to get to to this point to get you where you are now yeah to get roman where he is today because through my generation and on to romans [Music] you know it just um i think it just gives i think it just gives me more respect for my dad it just sounds to me like it's a long line of struggle [Music] that is a world that is so far and from mine so far i i have grown up with everything i ever wanted everything it's hard because even today like you know i hear about my dad like from that house that he's from yeah and then knowing the house that i'm from and it just goes back and you know you just hope that you hope that the people that set that up for me and for my family you hope that they know that yeah [Music] [Music] pretty central right now i mean i know where we're at bank the bank yeah down bank yeah the craze pubs down there as well yeah yeah the ten bells yeah christ though they're not related to them [Laughter] or maybe maybe that'd be a good thing no no it's not that's not a good thing oh hang on what we got dna alert here we go we have a dna cousin match click on the link below to meet the newest members of your family click on the link i've been researching our family history i've taken a dna test and it seems that you are both related to us aren't you lucky that probably should be [Music] oh my god she looks like my dad that looks like granny would make one it does the two at the back the lady on the top right for me top left and top right no both of them oh my god roman is freaking me out oh no that's too much to take in they sound like our family yeah but even looking at somebody who looks like my dad it just makes me feel like emotional i miss him so much don't stop crying when you see him i'm not going to really start to embarrass me i know you embarrassed me yesterday yeah all right sure yeah all right do you know what's so funny well they're definitely your family why because we're meeting them in a chippy [Music] we're going to the chippy that's good i like that i know that i go there all the time no you don't i do no national road yeah martin and roman have got a dna cousin match who likely share a three times great grandparent with martin she's in a corner up here there it is on the right oh fish and oh they're in there in there everything's so slow in being done so you know so normally the front door would be a fault night it's now being not done around any bloody weeks the curtains are supposed to be a fortnight it's now been six weeks i'm a little bit nervous now i know you are [Laughter] [Music] this is so ridiculous you look so much like my dad yeah you guys look so much like my dad they've all got those blue eyes blue eyes yeah yeah oh my god we have all got the blue eyes yeah for me oh she's a milkman so so what i would like to know is how are we related for sure like you are my granddad's side yeah the fight because of the similarity have you got a picture yeah oh yeah yeah definitely and is your dad's still alive no they've gone now yeah both my mum and dad have gone so we're related through my grandmother's grandfather he came originally from germany yeah i was a strolling musician and he stayed and they were musicians this is the strolling musician right oh this is so important when they came in through dover yeah oh wow so they're there it's something my nan always said to me that always got german in him you can see he's got germany definitely i love the fact that the first person to kind of bring that family to isington was a musician you gotta tell gary that a mum married a musician she met my dad who was a saxophone player oh we got gary hang on hi gary uh you know we've been doing the dna show with ro yeah right and we've found some cousins [Laughter] gary jacqueline looks so much like grandad it's unbelievable unbelievable it's his checklist do i oh my god especially when he wore lipstick we're just talking about our dna and how it has all come down from the german side who were all musicians really yeah that much is true [Laughter] yeah gary said they don't live in spandel do you know happy birthday by the way oh thank don't make threats all right girl see you later it's been brilliant i mean i'm glad that we can uh cross paths yeah but you know what's lovely we were saying is uh that we would have just walked past each other in the street and not known that we were connected by blood i'm a paramedic and i have been for 26 years and i've actually been out to your house in the ambulance no what yeah so your to see my daughter yes that is crazy yeah you say ryan me and my crew my amanda yeah this just mad i know yeah i remember i remember harley being really ill yeah yeah yeah or can i say it apart from thank you oh you're welcome that's mad yeah we're at the time when you came in in the house you never knew it's the strangest thing you don't know if it's real or or not you're making up in your head but you can feel such a connection i found it so strange that one of our cousins took harley to the hospital that was so weird oh mental harley will find that so weird i gotta call her i'll tell her yeah she was looking after just a member of her own family you're gonna cry again i'm not going to cry again i just i see your eyes going [Applause] i'm not crying today i've done enough crying [Laughter] [Music] here we go over the old time bridge martin and roman are in newcastle on the trail of roman's ancestor on his maternal line william appleby who worked on the egyptian railways oh what a view it looks like sydney doesn't it oh yeah [Music] you ready dad ready yeah yeah stop talking to gary i'm not i'm not i'm sorting out my other business yeah kids these days i can't get him off his phone honestly i do feel like sometimes i'm his dad i do feel like that do you yeah but i think that happens as you get older than you do start to look after your parents i feel like i started off as you as my dad then you were like my older brother yeah then we were just brothers and they were then you were my younger brother and my kid that's so not fair and now it's like a toddler can i get some water yeah you want some water do you need a straw yeah yeah there's one there though [Music] first close what railway museum stevenson railway museum oh okay that's starting to make sense william we worked in the railway railway stevenson stevens now we're joining the dots a little bit here stevenson rocket was the first steam truck well that's a stevenson rocket what's that do you know about the stevenson rocket no all that money i've spent on your education at school you don't even know about and rocking what rocket it was like the first big steam train [Music] here we are oh you can smell it you can smell trains already oh wow hi there oh there's a man fine thank you good martian hello man nice to meet you i'm dr olly betts i'm the head of research at the national railway museum and welcome to the stevenson steam railway museum wow thanks for having us i mean i'm not quite sure why we're here well if you read from just two-thirds of the way down hopefully that sheds a little bit more light on the problem the late william appleby served the egyptian state railways for 40 or 45 years he had the honor of driving the royal trains on many occasions so he drove the royal train so not building the railways but driving the train and not just driving any old train but the like the royal train there's several cadiz who were the the kings of egypt at the time so this is the engine itself [Music] it's oh my goodness so he would have driven this he would have driven this train and it's decorated in gold and he laid with very precious yeah you can sort of see just there yeah have you heard of robert and george stevenson yeah they're the steve jobs bill gates of their day you know they are the most famous sort of industrialists of the time so what's really interesting is that when the stevensons build their railway in the 1850s in egypt they don't build a bridge across the nile you know one of the world's widest rivers um they build a ferry to carry the train and there's a tragedy that happens a couple of years before your ancestor goes so the kadeev's son gets on with the train onto the ferry and the ferry capsizes and sinks in the nile and he drowns and this is hugely embarrassing for stevenson and i don't think it's unrealistic to think that he might have looked to a experienced train driver i thought you know we do not want another accident i want a man with experience today you know you don't want that reputational damage to your your brand so your your kind of idea of it is that someone like george stevenson would have sent william out there to go and do that yes it's a huge responsibility i mean steam engines are dangerous they're very very prone to accidents you need an experienced hand to look after the royals yeah so that may be where william comes in you know he's the trusted hand brought in to help smooth things over here's a man who wouldn't let them down who relied upon to do what they needed him to do [Music] we have a little bit of news oh yes i'm very excited we have some news so william appleby was the driver of the royal train in egypt that's really incredible only if my mom knew yeah i can't believe we know this information it's someone in our family that we can have a lot of pride on your great great grandfather was the guy you know i love i love the idea that it's your dna but it's my family as well you know because shirley and i your mum and i have been together for 40 years and it's wonderful for me to find out where she's come from and knowing where i come from and what put us two together do you know what i mean yeah yeah you know it's all family of course it is it's all family right [Music] the the nice thing i guess is putting the pieces together to understand what nan was saying it's funny though isn't it because she had all the right names and but all the story was twisted it's all gone through like so many generations of chinese whispers oh oh is that a text here we oh here we go roman you have a dna cousin match not one not two but a whole congregation congregation that's quite churchy yeah they are not aware you are matched with them head to saint john's church killing it it's time for you to meet the latest members of your family so they're not aware that i'll match with them no oh god you've got a whole bunch of relatives to me got a load of them how'd you feel about this right little bit nervous yeah i'm nervous yeah a little bit nervous because it's more than one it's like a lot of people i mean because it's your bloodline you're going to be meeting yeah but yeah but how's that work then what well as soon as i get a text saying that we've got to go and meet people all of a sudden it's just my side of the family because they only want to meet you no shut up why are you making this so you are literally now you're like your journey you're it's not it's your family members as well i know it is this whole time you were saying william affiliate i know him like he was a brother no now you go go meet him no no no no no you don't get it what i'm saying is it's your direct bloodline right and it's not mine is it it's not your shot this whole time are you mad you're coming with me [Music] do you remember we started off walking amongst a whole bunch of mummies not knowing where this journey was going to come to and now we're heading to killingworth to meet all your relatives your relatives well our relatives but mine by marriage and your bloodline no you're it's huge i'm just bro i'm not trying to get out of this i'm just you are you actually are not like this whole time you've been so like no it's us it's us and then now we're gonna meet him and now you're going well i'm by marriage well i'm sorry it's what you're doing all i'm saying is you have to walk through the church first no five minutes away oh god roman is related to his killingworth cousins through william and catherine appleby [Music] look killingworth straight off oh god i mean that's really exciting after all we've learned the last couple of days and we're heading to killingworth [Music] here we go [Music] this is it this is church saint john's kingworth oh god oh my god it's john's killing worth here we are so this is what it come down to hang on what do you hear that are you getting married or something bro i oh this is so strange it's one of the strangest things i've ever done in my life i'm feeling really nervous i'm not a religious bloke now i feel like i'm about to be baptized [Music] this is fine this is what it's all been building up to how is everyone listen we're as surprised as as you are right but just yeah exactly my name is martin kemp and this is my son roman and we over the last few days have been on an incredible journey and the outcome is is that we are all related yeah hello family hello hello yeah so we think that the person that ties us all together is a guy who was my great great great grandad called william appleby are you aware of this person oh yes you are do you know much about him at all we've grown up with the stories of our great great grandfather william so we knew that there was a like a strong connection to egypt yeah catherine and william got married here before they went to egypt not long after the church was built they probably stood there yeah of course so your family have been getting married in this church since the place was built so there you go so we've got william and catherine porter got married here at st john's so there you go i think it's just such a lovely story a really exciting time in their life when they were looking forward to a new thing but the first thing they wanted to do was show their family how much they loved each other incredible wow yeah i was actually training as a photojournalist in sheffield and you were playing i just happened to be passing and i saw the the coach and you and gary and there was a little a little girl how old am i a girl who gave you a teddy bear yeah that's all right yeah and i've got you guys remember that oh my god listen i'll try to bring him up polite i wouldn't worry it could be within the blood it is so wonderful to get to meet you guys and have this connection it's absolutely fantastic you know there's probably a million people out there that pass another person that they don't know is their flesh and blood yeah well it's weird for us because when we watched you on the telly you know what i mean and it's like you voted for me to eat those testicles didn't you you did i was born my daughter's just saying she was absolutely rooting for you right from the start of celeb well we should do because you're my family so yeah just as a forewarning as well you're not also related to ross kemp although you might be you might be it's it's a lot to take in it is you know two days ago we didn't know who this guy was and now we're standing in the place where he got married and started the family which meant i'm here there's no there's nowhere else to go this is this is it like mum's family is yeah from here here literally here started here [Music] [Music] if you imagine mum's nan yeah and then your nan yeah and the two completely different lives that they had yeah yeah you know at one point they were both either one was in the palace yeah and one was in you know a workhouse yeah if you were told at some point your two families will merge together that's right that's what's exciting about it worlds apart yeah they come from the sewers and mine come from the sewers yeah yeah that's that's about the truth of it i think that you know it's the same with you know the huge sense of gratitude that i feel like i have you know from your side of family and understanding that it's like tenfold now yeah you know which is really nice yeah and it should i think i think as well like you know it should be a proud moment for you and gary you know because you guys broke the chain you guys you know change the the way people see you know our family i like to think of it that my dad broke the chain you know my dad bought my brother the guitar my dad wrote the letter to the manager of the factory that i used to work out saying i wanted to be a pop star and my it's kind of like my dad let that happen and that's what i like to think see it yeah but i know what you're saying yeah yeah yeah do you find it weird what's the weirdest thing that you never knew that you would just like it's still just blowing your mind the weirdest thing is on my dad's side that we never knew that music was involved right in our family at all and then all of a sudden someone comes and says yeah you know that german blood in you yeah they were all musicians yeah that came over to england that's the weirdest thing yeah you know and how that's handed down yeah and i never knew that that was in the family and gary didn't as well gary thought he was the first and he wasn't [Laughter] yeah yeah exactly the camps have already discovered that martin's grandmother eliza crisp was sent to a workers when she was 10 years old it's the last day i know where are we stopping here what was stopping here for oh hi loke what's this side got a strange i know yeah just facing on the road name saint john's way oh saint john's way which is where the workhouse is right it's the old workhouse isn't it hello hello hello hello sorry i don't know who is it who it is that's coming to speak to us if i just look at you like as if you were just walking past but you are meant to be here i'm meant to be here so my name is michaela hume and i'm a lecturer in history from manchester metropolitan university another historian another historian yeah now i've actually got some pictures of what the workhouse used to look like wow oh my goodness it was massive that's huge so it started here and it went all the way back that way right oh so that's this building here is this building you can see look yeah the arts yeah it's just the strangest feeling isn't it yeah just standing here this this is the door that they walk through st john's workhouse was a notorious workhouse it even featured in oliver twist so for 10 year old eliza to go there it must have been a very scary place now i actually have a document for you that i'd like to show you yeah yeah elizabeth hetti ruth crisp 15. census of england and wales 1911 general service so this is the census record taken in 1911 of the family that she is in service with so she was trained in here to be become a mate right that's correct so she would have left the workhouse at 14. yeah she would have been trained in things like you know how to run a household how to cook how to sew for example so she would have been trained in all these skills she is with a family she is the only maid in that household so it would have been tough for her but she's out the workhouse and she's got employment so i know that you guys knew that elijah's mom was in the asylum yeah she did actually come out of the asylum oh wow yes and eliza sent money to her mum she was looking after everyone yeah so she's a remarkable remarkable lady eliza was formidable she was part of an army of working class women who showed grit and determination and these women really held the family together and whatever experiences she may have had in the past that was not going to affect eliza's future she remained in service and in 1918 she marries walter yeah and i have a record for you um regarding walter that i think i think you'll like yeah this is your nan this isn't it's amazing this is your man it's not it's incredible yeah so she marries walter in 1918 and they go on to have five children with frank yeah being being the youngest uh this walter horace role of individuals entitled to the war badge they came out with shell shock shell shock i remember my dad talking about that at 23 yeah wow 23. he was just a kid it was obviously whatever he'd witnessed obviously really affected him during the war but i think what's quite nice is that someone that's been through something like that then met quite a tough woman that could have helped him through it a little bit and i think that is the remarkable thing about your granny is the fact that she'd had an upbringing that was quite insular without love but she found love and she not only looked after walter but also radiated that through her children yeah and especially you know through frank so i think that even though she had the upbringing she did she didn't let that interfere with how she loved how she how she went on in life and that's really remarkable it just resonates with me so much because it makes so much sense with how my mom and dad were [Music] my dad [Music] was the [Music] my dad was the loveliest man sometimes it just catches up yeah and he was the loveliest man and uh you know and it's nice to know that his mum was too you know i can see where he's got it from [Music] [Music] oh i miss my dad so much i miss him so much and i think it maybe helps you understand him a bit more yes i've got one more record for you i don't think i can take him eliza died in 1950 and she was 53 years old we know where she was buried right wow she's buried in islington and st pancreas cemetery oh and i actually have a map of her grave so she is buried here oh wow oh my goodness i've been to this cemetery so many times i never knew she was buried here would you like to go and find her i would love to find it definitely yeah absolutely i thought we were going in to hear this horrific story you know horror story that that eliza went through and we didn't we heard something in the end was quite positive yeah i find it weird that you say eliza and you don't say man that well yeah because i would never say eileen or margaret i'd say it's my nan yeah now maybe i will you know from now on she's saying that she's your nan you know she's before she wasn't she before she was just a picture yeah i do feel like i know her now yeah where before i didn't you know i feel like she almost deserves that title to yeah be called you know considering what she did without a doubt so we're here i've been here so many times right i've not known that she's here so we are here we are at islington and saint pancreas cemeteries so if we take this left ah which one is it right this is this way oh this side two three seven seven oh two three eight okay so go left [Music] two three eight four seven it's completely overgrown two three eight seven three two three eight nine three uh dad that yeah i got it is that here two three nine zero oh there so she's here under this mound yeah this is kind of paul for his grave isn't it you know no one here haven't had any money and they've just crammed everybody in you know i've got this image in my head of my dad and everybody standing around here in this spot saying goodbye to her he didn't have any money so he didn't even get a proper headstone or headstone or a mark or something maybe we'd do that yeah i'll do it i'll put a headstone here and clear it up a little bit you come down with mom make it yes yeah do that to know she she's here is lovely i get really warm feeling off of it to be honest yeah i do really warm yeah how do you think nate would feel that we were here i think my dad would love it i really do i just hope she hasn't been here on her own for too long yeah of course oh rainbow oh wow [Music] there he is if you wanted a sign yeah if you wanted a sign that he's pleased this song was for him it wasn't for us it was fame do you know the weirdest thing as well what the numbers all in there [Music] so it says my uh birthday all of those numbers are [Music] here it's too much isn't that it's too much we love your name god yeah all right come on cuz even granddad's bored now he's gone oh no come on [Music] you

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