Defector Yeonmi Park on Escaping North Korea

the jurogan experience so you were 13 when you you and your family you it was you and your mother that escaped yeah how did you get out so the hospital right initially my sister and i was going to escape but when north koreans say when you are escaping of course we don't have phones we don't have a map we don't know what's the outside world look like right luckily i was living in this border town of north korea by then so at night do you know if you see the satellite photo of north korea it is the literally the darkest place on earth yes we don't have electricity so i was seeing these lights coming from china so we i thought like if i go where the lights or we would be finding some bowl of rice so at 16 my sister left with her friend and she left me a note while i was in the hospital and got like removing my appendix and then as soon as i got out of the hospital i found a note and initially my mom and i went to look for sister where she went but when we found the lady she told me that she could help me to go to china that day and so this was you and your mother and you were 13 years old yeah so how did you get across and what is that what was that experience like so uh this is uh so i told my mom like convinced me to china and she my mom was like you know father is like my father was home he was waiting but the thing is that's the tragic thing for north korea we cannot even say goodbye to our loved ones so if we got caught on the journey and if my father knew that we were escaping he's gonna be punished so much so it's better off that he does not know that we are escaping for his own safety because they're gonna torture you to the point that you're gonna say anything because they do this all subconscious like torture that they make you not sleep in a single room has like no air much air if you put there for 40 days alone you go crazy you say whatever they ask you so if you he actually knew that you're escaping it wasn't good for him he would be dead so i told him i'm like you cannot tell father that we are escaping so that day we climbed up this exceptional mountains and then we went to the riverside but she had a connection with the guards why did you not bring him with you because he's a man and he was sick and somehow she said only women can't go only women can grow i did not know why what she meant by that she's like you should just go with your mom and don't even tell those people that's your mom she said like you are like 18 or something and my mom was something 30 so she told me that our wage with age was different so and this would somehow another help you when you were going across yeah how would that help you i don't know or she told me what this is going to be helpful and well part of the issue is um in china there's a disproportionate number of men in comparison to women yeah and so they want as many women to come across as that are uh of legal age like women that can be married or can write is that the idea behind it it's it's a smuggling so like it's easy you got it right because of one child policy right a lot of girls got aborted in china so they kept the boys so there's many many men that have no chance of ever finding a woman because there are no women yeah over 30 million men in the rural areas cannot find the wives so they over 30 million and it's never gonna keep going up right now so that's a big problem for chinese region but the thing is even that they don't allow north korean women to stay there they catch us and they send us back to north korea last month china repatriated the 50 north korean defectors back in north korea it is sending them our suits literally they are sending them to death camp but the chinese regime still do catch us and send us back because they think we are posing a threat to the regime and they don't want the regime to collapse so they are catching all the defectors but the human traffickers see the opportunity here because we are so vulnerable right we are running away from chinese authority so even they rape us and kill us the last place that we are gonna go is going to police and then report on them why did they think that women coming over from north korea are going to somehow another collapse the empire because uh though that's what kim jong-un believes he thinks they're going to collapse through the defection through the defectors so after kim jong came into power he literally the country cannot afford the electricity probably electrified the fence the entire border not only that putting the machine guns through the guards have a ticket order whoever crosses they don't even bother to ask you stop they shoot you right there and not only that he bury the landmines on top of that so there's electric fence and then there's guards shooting to kill and then past that there's land mines yeah entire country became a consensus in camp entire country when did they start putting the land mines in a few years ago so this is after you had already escaped yeah now there's no you can't you don't see north korean defects escaping from north korea anymore it's impossible to escape at this point catch new episodes of the joe rogan experience for free only on spotify watch back catalog jre videos on spotify including clips easily seamlessly switch between video and audio experience on spotify you can listen to the jre in the background while using other apps and can download episodes to save on data cost all for free spotify is absolutely free you don't have to have a premium account to watch new jre episodes you just need to search for the jre on your spotify app go to spotify now to get this full episode of the joe rogan experience

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Length: 6min 22sec (382 seconds)

Published: Tue Aug 03 2021