DeepCool's CH160 is SFF Air Cooling at its... Deepest.

Square mesh holes Square handle square body this case is so square but underneath it truly just how big of a square cooler this can take oh and hey you can get a bunch of little squares [Music] too welcome to machines more so three numbers that you need to know about this case 172 16.7 70 air clu clearance approximate case size and liters and the MSRP so I'm done run go get one seriously though this is deep Cool's ch1 160 it is a new small form factor case that's launching today and I love this thing so real quick before we begin quick disclaimer the case and the cooler that we're using today that was these were provided by Deep cool for the purposes of this review but I'm not paid by them for this review a big thanks to them for their support of the channel here but the research and content has been produced independently and the manufacturer does not have advanced notice nor does it have a say in any of the review findings and that is the standard you can expect from the content on this channel if you enjoy content like this please subscribe and give a like it really helps out the Channel all right quick overview of the case before I dive into the finer details this one is the black one there's also a white one there is a digital display version of the ch1 160 but that is a vertical orientation only so realistically that's a different case uh this case portion excluding the protusions it measures in that 331 mm long by 200 mm wide by 250 mm tall and that makes it 16.7 16.6 Lish so it's a little bit smaller than an nr200 a little bit larger than the M1 Evo so it roughly splits the difference between the two it is fairly wide though and you've seen that here and that leads to a very generous 172 mm air cooler clearance which is to say you can fit truly large air coolers that sff enthusiasts only dream about and likely the Heats and compatibility or the U interference with your miniitx motherboard that's going to be more of a limiting factor than anything else with this case liquid cooling in this case is not officially supported although unofficially I want to test it anyway and I was able to get the Cooler Master Atmos 242 fit so we'll test it out this way top mounted 240 like I have here and this is great for rad placement and you have to consider that something like The Cooler Master interr PE that was bottom mounted only with its glass panel and that's not optimal there is not a provision for bottom FS the clearance below the final GPU slot slot three is very little but you can do a full 120 mm fan at the front and the back and that is very good feet Elevate the case 16 mm off the work surface there is a removable handle at the top that is 17 mm when it's in this resting position here so it doesn't stick up very much and a very small protrusion towards the rear off of the top panel the back here this is Mini ITX only traditional layout no Riser cable required and it comes with a temporary glass side panel without an option for a vented panel doesn't come with one and the GPU compatibility it's up to 305 mm in length three Slots of thickness and I'm using 118 mm wide card here with the power connections on the side here I reckon you can go up to 150 mm without any issue so at first glance that 305 mm number it may seem limiting if you're looking at current gen Asus to or RG cards something like the MSI supreme but there are a good number of high-end cards that hand fit in this case so technically the spec meets the requirements for the 4080 or 4090 found res card but actually after installing this test card which is shorter than that I wouldn't recommend it uh it actually was not easy to get the card in place uh the closest thing I have is the 480 super Fe which is a tad too long to test so either way you do have to be more judicious with card choice but there are many high performing cards that can fall while well within that spec so plenty of 4070 super or 7900 XTX cards that will be just fine power spawn you can go sfax sfx l or ATX power spies up to 140 mm uh ATX will limit your car choice but it is absolutely supported by this case then you have the front panel I/O on the bottom of the side panel fully featured with the audio USBC usba and power button so let's go into a little bit more detail as we build and I'll show you the inner workings thing about this case is it does rely pretty heavily on screws there's no tooless Hardware here and that's perfectly fine because for this price point I think you have to make some concessions and that's perfectly serviceable you just got to take the time unscrew them the panels don't just pop off but they are secure both the glass panel and the back panel come off with two screws at the back so you just undo those and then this panel can float off very simple even though it does rely on screws it's fairly intuitive and um you just have to take time to take apart but once it's apart it's very open to build in the exception being the bottom panel um it is fixed in place and that's going to make things a little bit more restrictive especially with putting in the graphics card you can mount an ATX power supply with this case only three screws though it is clearly labeled you got to slide this bracket over to the a position and the and then you thread the power supply into the bracket here and you got two screws here it does take up quite a bit of room though so if you do put it this way you a lot of graphics card won't fit for example seus Jewel it's pretty significant overnight laap here so this is unlikely to work for a lot of the graphics cards on the market today but if you haven't have a compact one and you know may work for you for most Builders I do suggest just an sfx power supply though for an sfx power supply you have two options of how you want to mount it one is flat against the back of the case uh like in the end case M1 and the nr200 the bracket comes out of the box right here so this is the spot you would install it in if you just want to go with that alternately you can take this bracket off same place over as the ATX goes and doing it this way we'll just mount one two three screws and you'll have it like this this is a reasonable position to mount the power supply in got the fan facing this way and uh unfortunately a lot of power supplies will have labeling over here if that does bother you I remove the label or mask it off is for a test bu we just keep everything as is the side panel does have a vent cut out in it so this power supply can breathe absolutely no problem one thing I noticed because the power supply cable is like oriented this way if you flipped the power supply around and you had to run the power plug here it's actually very tight so that makes a little bit more sense here and there is no attachment point on the case for this it is a pigtail so you just going to have to run that out the back and this will tie into your AC power plug okay that's how it will run one thing you can do with the pigtail cable is there are zip tie points here and you can secure it like this but the little bit odd thing about that is then you have this piece kind of hanging out in no man's land near the GPU so that is an option I I don't know too many of you are going to use that personally I would just let it dangle because if you have an AC cable that say it's mounted up here anyway it's going to dangle have to dangle down anyway so whether it's you know got the square piece uh closer to your desk or or up here I don't think it's a a big material difference there iio is what I would consider fully featured USBC a front panel header single connector which is very handy usba a and this one is a front panel audio a lot of cases are skipping the front panel audio these days so it's good to see that they're keeping that in there if you don't use it it's still there the front of the case comes pre-mounted with this multifunctional panel primarily that'll be for attaching a fan unless you're using an SSD or HDD D which will be mounted with that bracket and that'll attach at two points to the fan which is not the most secure way to do it and there's a small offset about 12 mm where this fan hangs uh sits off the front but it is available there and one thing I was wondering if it was possible would be to attach the fan directly to here of course uh this is directly facing the outside so you would see those mounting screws so that's probably why they did it this way here for the test build we're going with the x670 EIT X Bard from and the 7900x mini ITX boards only with this case and that'll Mount up right there okay traditional layout one thing that's quite elegant about the back of the case is that there's this recess where the motherboard sits in so everything is INS set same thing with the graphics card so you don't have those protrusions off the back like you see with a lot of ITX cases one thing that isn't as elegant that I would have preferred a better solution for with this case is that there are a lot of front panel I/O cables in terms of the length they're just really long for how short this run would be from the side panel uh to here to the motherboard and so and there's no tie down points at the front or under the panel here so it does tend to be kind of messy and so I think users will want to watch out for that and that is a point of improvement with this case the radiator mounts with these rails at the top that also serve as supporting structural members so without these at the top the the case would move a little bit more freely this way the concern here is because the off you know the height of the case it doesn't allow for the radiator and fans to clear the mother board namely here it's the pump head pump block completely so the rad fans do bump up against the pp block this one the atmos is 53 1.2 mm the other thing that you should be aware of is the rad length Okay so this one's about 276 mm long and that's right around where you want to be you would try to get a shorter one and if you want to have both fans you're some somewhat subject to the offset between you at the ends of the rout to kind of slide it exactly in place between the two fans I was able to get it to fit in place it's very tight so I can see that maybe one concern why it's not officially listed as a compatible thing 120 I don't see why that would be an issue either but one thing you may want to do is go with an AO if you want to try it out they go with one that's less than I'd say about 50 mm would be safe for the pump head here this one is like I said 53 and a half it's probably just 2 millim shy of clearing it completely but you I am able to fit in place so but as you'll see there's not a compelling reason to liquid cool this case because air cooling is very elegant in this case all this I've got the front fan front fan rear fan two t30s here I'm just going to put in the graphics card and that we can close up the build here it is a little bit difficult to get this card in just because now the front IO cables are kind of in the way and so we got to shift them over and this card is a little bit on the long side I mean it doesn't exceed the maximum length here he the way I got it in was I had to use the screwdriver to shift those front IO cables over and then kind of massage the card into place but it is in and so I'm just going to screw down on the top panel if you flip it over see I remove these screws here just to give you an idea you can't remove this handle this is not uh mandatory and so we have to close the top panel first and then finally this is our glass panel so we just want to that this way let's talk about liquid cooled mode first because the liquid cooled CPU thermals are just okay at the same power level compared to other similar cases I couldn't actually lock the 5.4 GHz clock for all cores on the 7900x just would not work so it is a little bit weaker now it can run at 5.35 GHz at the same voltage which results in the similar package power but you the temps are high and that's why the higher clock doesn't work if you flip the rad fans here to intake from the top that would result in better thermals but that will be at the expense of GPU thermals in a combined scenario but if you want to prioritize CPU thermals that may be what you have to do I didn't test the liquid cooled fan configurations extensively because quite frankly that's not exactly what interests me in this case combined thermals are actually fairly decent considering the tempered glass panel is the only option you have and in fact it's very comparable to the N 200p V2 thermals when it uses a vented side panel so glass versus vented side panel you know that's actually a lot closer than I thought it would be and and it is actually much better than when the N 200p V2 uses a glass panel and also happens to be intaking from the top so liquid cooling this case is absolutely fine but for me the eye-catching sui generous feature is the air cooler support and that's what I really want to test here deep cool sent by their assassin 4S which is this 164 mm tall air cooler features the center mounted 140 mm fan this is the 140 mm fan that comes on the Assassin 4S other than the Sleek cover this actually is just a dual Tower heat sink very nice one but once you've got the screws mounted up this fan just drops in and you want to make sure it's running the way you want I have this rear exhaust because that's going to play nicely with this case which is front intaking rear exhausting in fact these fans here Will be part of our overall cooling for the CPU and just pop this screen on it's very very neat looking what I like about this heat sink another thing is these alternating airflow Groove sections on the heat sink kind of looks like a patchwork quilt like a bunch of squares except you know one color in white this heat sink I think is even more stunning okay so one thing I was mentioning earlier at the beginning of the video is that your motherboard May be the limiting factor this case won't limit you because the height it's really your motherboard's clearances so in this case the x670 ITX the m.2 heat sink is Too Tall like a lot of modern ITX boards you got too much metal there so I had to take that off in order to clear this heat SN um what you could do and I didn't do it here just out of expedience but you could run a just an aftermarket heat sink on the m.2 and that'll cool it absolutely fine so what I'm going to do is adjust the fan curves for these two fans so that they're similar to the CPU Cooler fan and that way we reduce the turbulence the air flow that's coming in leaving going through here it's going to be mostly in sync but what we can do is stick uh a fan right here that'll be our top exhaust air flow is very natural here you have this front intake and it goes through the cooler and it goes out the back it's very streamlined because the air cooler is integrated into the airflow design the C P only scenario actually ends up working better than the liquid cooled solution which by the way the atmos 240 with two fantex t30s is a serious liquid cooling combo at equivalent system noise which uh with the 240 we had the same number of fans in the system so the CPU Cooler fan here gets to run at 1450 RPM and the two case attached cooler fans they're pseudo cooler fans running at, 1600 RPM the CPU was able to hold 5.4 GHz clock and perhaps more fair comparison is against the glass panel inter 200 pv2 so you can see The Thermals are similar here for the combined system temps the GPU temps aren't as strong the CPU temps are a little bit better I'd say gaming thermals here are comparable to its peers again keeping in mind this one is using a tempered glass panel which is usually a little bit more difficult to cool for the especially for the GPU okay pros of the case I feel like like deep cool hit the nail on the head with the case dimensions and the layout rather than attempt to capture the upper echelon of large gpus they aimed this one for the bulk of the market and then they spent their volume on the width here and they integrated this air cooler into the front to back airf flow design and that provides for serious air cooler capability and this thing is like a tower air cooler King and I really can't wait to test out the next gen nocto 15 in here and most likely this case won't have any problem with the height 172 mm is a lot second I like the design language it's consistent it's elegant and though the materials they are average in quality or I guess you could say NR 200 like it doesn't look it when it's on your desk and you have you know the little customizable personalization that you can do with the front panel and they went as far as to recess the motherboard and recess the GPU so that the GPU hangers are inside the case to further reinforce this flat Square back panel and the overall design it's very cohesive also because of the very good thermal performance with the air cooler the tempered glass panel it's not a big penalty to CPU temps and I think many of you won like that and I got to say there is something very satisfying about looking into this particular build with this cooler it just has a really cool design I I like this handle it's actually very convenient and it's nice that it's removable the supporting of the ATX power supply is useful although limited because of the GPU length requirement there but it's a nice that nice thing that they built in a way so that you can choose which type of power supply that you want to use in here so some downsides and points of improvement that this case doesn't support some of the bigger cards on the market make come as a disappointment to some but realistically there are many sfff cases that already support those longer cards and if that is what you are after that's you know there's something there for you but truly nothing exactly like this for air Cooling in the sff space one thing I would have preferred is more secure mounting for this front fan it's just only two points here maybe even some flexibility since realistically it should be able to go anywhere behind the mesh panel but we are limited to the fixed position here and I think it would really be neat if they could even integrate some square- shaped mounts that match the uh color of the panels and that way you can conceal the mounting points at the front even if the mounting itself has to be exposed if you are using this multi-function bracket for a fan you can't use it for an SSD or an HDD so if you are mounting 2 and 1/2 in or 3 and 1/2 in drives in this case just take note there are a limited number of mounting options available for that although there's plenty of space so so you you can definitely just figure something out with some alternate attachment method but that's a potential point of improvement maybe a few more of these brackets so another Improvement opportunity that I mentioned earlier I think they could be a little bit tighter on the front panel I/O cable lengths and then add in a little bit better management method that would help uh because I think the cables are too long here one aspect that is more inconvenient is the non tooless panels you got to use a screwdriver for it although that does likely help Drive the price point and actually lead to a very solid feeling case nothing is loose or flimsy their price point may have also driven the choice to emit the vented side panel as an inclusion although if that is an available skew or option down the line I think that would be a good consideration for the general audience here some of you may not like this pigtail arrangement for the power cord it doesn't bother me too much but I can see if uh you know it's dangling off the back you might not like that at the end of the day the cabl is going to have to go out this way anyway right whether it's the the one going to the wall or the one uh coming from the case there is sort of a point right around here where the sliger s620 mounts it this part is viable as well depending on your card width so they could have potentially placed a point here but um that so this is just something to be aware of not necessarily A A downside per se and finally I would have preferred having some uh fan mount bouncing points at the bottom even if they don't get used because with a suitable two slot card uh here the bottom fans can be a viable placement for sure and that can Aid with the card temps my recommendation to build this one up it's going to be more on the GPU side because for the CPU Choice it really can run the gamut from entrylevel CPU to higher end CPU because if you want to run a 7900 a 795x just go for it these cooler fans with this cooler it's not even maxed out yet so there's plenty of head room because you are limited to graphics card cooler size I think 4070 470 super on the team green side is appropriate less than that is is fine of course 4070 4070 super these are all great cards this one here is the assus duel uh the 4070 super then I'm going to be running in the next build iteration next build video for this case and this is a solid card here radi on cards are also a good choice like the one I have in installed in here right now properly size 7900 XT XTX it's also going to be great cooling wise I'm really impressed with this combo so heck get this one with the Assassin 4S this is an $80 cooler and there is really no need for the hassle of an AIO in this case this one worked so well I I don't know if deep cool is doing it or if they're going to do it but if not they need to bundle this case with the Assassin 4S since this is a really good match two good cooling friends on a warm summer day so to sum up this case here it's really good I love it it's excellent for air cooling enthusiasts perfectly suitable for water cooling um it's really good for those of you that like to peek into the case and the $70 MSRP is just the icing on the cake now didn't come with any fans or anything but that's still a really good price right is this the most polished feeling case in terms of the Finish quality no is it the most userfriendly or convenient no but I have to say this alog together is a lot closer to what the nr200 pv2 should have been compared to how it turned out plus this one's smaller it's more budget friendly and I think a lot of case manufacturers in the sff space can learn a thing or two about a complete design here uh from this case all in all it's a very balanced convenient elegant and it's a compact square machine so the launches today I am told New Egg will have at first and then some of the other online retailers like Amazon and early May so do look for the links here I hope you enjoyed this review there's going to be build videos to come with this one so uh please give a like subscribe to stay connected on that content thank you for your support and big thanks for watching today [Music]

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Length: 25min 25sec (1525 seconds)

Published: Mon Apr 22 2024