VERY -- PHRASE OF THE WEEK IS PROVE IT. >> THE >> THE PROBLEM THAT YOU PROBLEM THAT YOU HAVE IS THAT YOU HAVE IS THEY GO GO INTO INTO ROOMS, THEY ROOMS, THEY WON'T LET WON'T LET ANYONE ANYONE KNEW THEY WOULD NEAR THEM. THEY WANT EVEN LET THEM IN THE SAME TO LET THEM IN THE SAME BUILDING. DID BUILDING. DID THEY THEY DROP ANYTHING DROP ANYTHING INTO THOSE INTO THOSE PILES? OR DID FILES? OR DID THEY THEY DO IT LATER? DO IT LATER? THERE'S NO THERE'S NO CHAIN OF CUSTODY HERE WITH THEM. CHAIN OF CUSTODY HERE WITH >> THEM. >> SPECIAL SPECIAL MASTER MASTER, JUDGE RAYMOND JOB GRAEME DEARIE THAT ASKING JURY IS DONALD TRUMP'S LAWYER ASKING TRUMP TO BACKUP THEIR LAWYERS TO BACKUP THEIR CLAIM THAT CLAIMS THAT OF FBI AGENTS FBI AGENTS PLANTED SOME OF THE PLANTED SOME OF THE DOCUMENTS DOCUMENTS SEIZED FROM SEIZED FROM MAR-A-LAGO. MAR-A-LAGO. DO DEARIE WE ALSO WANTS ALSO WANTS PROOF THAT TRUMP PROOF THAT TRUMP DECLASSIFY THE DECLASSIFIED THE 100 OR SO 100 OR SO CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS HE TOOK BY HE TOOK BY THE BUSLOAD THE BUMP LOATHE TO HIS TO HIS FLORIDA GOLF FLORIDA GOLF COURSE. COURSE. AND, WELL, -- AND, WELL -- >> >> IF YOU ARE THE IF PRESIDENT OF THE YOU'RE THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, YOU CAN UNITED STATES, YOU CAN DECLASSIFIED DECLASSIFIED JUST BY JUST SAYING IS THE BY SAYING, IT'S CLASSIFIED. DECLASSIFIED. EVEN BY EVEN BY THINKING ABOUT THINKING ABOUT IT. IT. YOU ARE BECAUSE YOU ARE SANDY NET TO SENDING IT TO MAR-A-LAGO, OR MAR-A-LAGO OR TO TO WHEREVER YOU'RE SENDING IT. WHEREVER YOU ARE SENDING IT. THERE AND DOESN'T HAVE TO BE IT DOESN'T HAVE TO A PROCESS BE THERE, CAN BE A PROCESS. IT CAN BE A PROCESS, BUT THAT DOESN'T A PROCESS. BUT IT IS HAVE TO BE. YOU ARE NOT. THE YEAR THE THE PRESIDENT. YOU MAKE THAT PRESIDENT, YOU MAKE THAT DECISION. WHEN DECISION. SO WHEN YOU SEND IT, YOU SEND IT, IT'S DECLASSIFIED. >> IT'S THE CLASSIFIED. >> WHAT IN WHAT'S THE WORLD IN THE WORD SOLID WITH EXTRA SALAD WITH EXTRA DRESSING IS THAT? DRESSING IF THAT? NO DOUBT, NO DOUBT JUDGE DEARIE JUDGE DEARIE WILL REQUIRE WILL REQUIRE SOMETHING MORE SOMETHING A BIT MORE SUBSTANTIAL THAN SUBSTANTIAL THAN TELEPATHY. TELEPATHY. HE'S GIVEN HE'S GIVEN TRUMP TRUMP UNTIL FRIDAY TO UNTIL FRIDAY TO PUT PUT UP, OR SHUT UP OR SHUT UP. UP. MEANWHILE, MEANWHILE, NEW YORK ATTORNEY GENERAL NEW YORK ATTORNEY GENERAL LETITIA LETITIA JAMES HAS FILED JAMES HAS A SWEEPING FILED A SWEEPING LAWSUIT LAWSUIT ACCUSING AGAINST TRUMP, THE TRUMP, TRUMP ORGANIZATION, TRUMP ORGANIZATION AND THREE OF HIS AND THREE FOR THE DEL ADULT CHILDREN OF YEARS OF CHILDREN, WHO ARE ACCUSED OF YEARS WIDESPREAD OF WIDESPREAD FRAUD FRAUD RELATED TO THE RELATED TO THE FAMILY'S FAMILY'S BUSINESS BUSINESS DEAL. A MOVE THAT COULD DEALINGS. A MOVE IT COULD POTENTIALLY POTENTIALLY CAUSE COST TRUMP TRUMP $250 MILLION, 200 AND $50 MILLION, AND AND HIS REAL HIS REAL ESTATE ESTATE EMPIRE. EMPIRE. JOINING JOINING ME NOW, ME NOW, TRUMP'S TRUMP'S FORMER FORMER ATTORNEY, MICHAEL ATTORNEY, MICHAEL COHEN. HE'S ALSO COHEN. HE'S ALSO THE THE HOST OF THE HOST OF THE MEA CULPA MEA CULPA PODCAST PODCASTS, AND AND AUTHOR OF THE AUTHOR OF THE FORTHCOMING BOOK, FORTHCOMING BOOK, REVENGE. REVENGE. HOW HOW DONALD TRUMP DONALD TRUMP WEAPONIZED WEAPONIZE THE DOJ AGAINST DOJ AGAINST HIS. HIS CRITICS. CRITICS MICHAEL, MICHAEL, WELCOME BACK TO THE WELCOME BACK TO THE SUNDAY SHOW. >> SUNDAY SHOW. >> JONATHAN. JONATHAN, THAT WAS THAT WAS SOME SOME OPENING THAT OPENING THAT YOU HAD, YOU HAD THERE, MY THERE MY FRIEND. FRIEND. I YES. CAN MEAN, YES. CAN YOU YOU IMAGINE, IMAGINE? FOUR SEED GOES FIRST HE GOES AFTER THE AFTER THE FBI. FBI. THEN HE AND THEN HE TURNS TURNS AROUND, AND AROUND AND HE HE WANTS TO WANTS TO USE THE USE THE JEDI JEDI MIND MIND TRICK TRICK -- CLASSIFY -- -- I MEAN, I MEAN, THIS GUY IS THIS GUY IS OUT OF HIS MIND. OUT OF HIS MIND. HE'S HE'S REALLY, REALLY, TRULY, TRULY LOST IT. LOST. >> >> MICHAEL, MICHAEL, WOW. WOW. THAT WAS AN INCREDIBLE IMPRESSION. THAT WAS AN INCREDIBLE LET'S TALK IMPRESSION. BUT LET'S TALK ABOUT THE ABOUT THE IMPACT OF IMPACTS OF A CONVICTION AND A CONVICTION. HOW HOW DETRIMENTAL DETRIMENTAL THAT THAT CAN BEFORE COULD BE TO TRUMP'S FAMILY TRUMP'S FAMILY BUSINESS, AS I BUSINESS. AS I MENTION, NOT MENTIONED, NOT ONLY IS THE ONLY AS THE NEW YORK AG LOOKING NEW YORK -- LOOKING TO TO RECOVER RECOVER $250 MILLION, $250 MILLION, SHE'S ALSO SEEKING SHE IS TO ALSO LOOKING TO BUY THE BAR THE -- WHERE THE TRUMP ORGANIZATION FROM GETTING LOANS TRUMP ORGANIZATION FROM GETTING LOAN FROM FROM ANY NEW YORK ANY NEW YORK REGISTERED REGISTERED FINANCIAL FINANCIAL INSTITUTION INSTITUTION FOR FOR FIVE YEARS FIVE YEARS. THE. THE QUESTION, MICHAEL, TO QUESTION THOUGH, YOU, DO YOU SEE MICHAEL, TO YOU, IS DO THE TRUMP FAMILY YOU SEE THE TRUMP TRY, AND ONCE FAMILY AGAIN, TO SELL THIS TRYING TO CASE, SELL THIS CASE -- OR WILL THIS CASE GO TO OR WILL THIS CASE GO TO TRIAL? >> TRIAL? OKAY, >> FIRST OF ALL, THEY OKAY, FIRST OF, ALL THEY HAD AN HAD OPPORTUNITIES TO OPPORTUNITY TO SETTLE. SETTLE. WE WE DON'T KNOW DON'T KNOW WHAT THE WHAT THE FACTS BEHIND FACTS BEHIND THAT THAT ARE. ARE. HOWEVER, THE HOWEVER, THE 250 MILLION PURSUE 250 MILLION PURSUING TO THE IT TO THE 200 DIRECT AGE INDICTMENT 200-PAGE AND DIET MEANT BY OUR BY -- -- JUST OUR JUST OUR UNSHAKABLE UNSHAKABLE ATTORNEY GENERAL, ATTORNEY GENERAL. THAT IS THE BASE THAT THAT'S THE BASE THAT SHE IS LOOKING FOR. SHE'S LOOKING THAT IS NOT TO FOR. THAT'S NOT THE CEILING. CEILING. WE'RE WE'RE TALKING TALKING ABOUT ANYWHERE, IN ABOUT ANYWHERE MY ESTIMATION, MIGRANTS ESTIMATION BASED UPON THE DOCUMENTS THAT I KNOW THE ATTORNEY GENERAL BASED ON THE HAS, I DOCUMENT THE ATTORNEY GENERAL SUSPECT THAT THEY'RE HAS, I LOOKING AT SUSPECT ARE PROBABLY LOOKING AT SOMEWHERE BETWEEN SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 750 MILLION, TO 750 MILLION TO ONE BILLION DOLLARS ONE BILLION DOLLARS IN IN PENALTIES AND PENALTIES AND FINES. FINES. DO I SO DO I THINK THE THINK THE TRUMP ORGANIZATION IS IN TRUMP ORGANIZATION IS IN TROUBLE? ABSOLUTELY TROUBLE? YES. >>. >> ANOTHER ANOTHER THING THAT COULD BE IN THING THAT COULD BE IN TROUBLE IS TROUBLE IS THIS, THAT, FROM AG JAMES WENT AJ JAMES WENT AFTER AFTER THE IT IS, THE BRANDS. HE'S BRAND. HE'S BUILT HIS BUILT HIS ENTIRE ENTIRE BRAND AROUND BRAND ON BEING BEING A BUSINESSMAN WITH ENORMOUS A BUSINESSMAN WITH A NORM AS WELL WEALTH. . BUT ATTORNEY GENERAL ATTORNEY GENERAL JAMES -- DISMANTLED DISMANTLED THAT THAT IMAGERY. IMAGERY ONE EXAMPLE AT THE ONCE AN EXAMPLE AT TIME. TRUMP CLAIMED A TIME. LIKE THAT HIS GAUDY TRUMP TRUMP'S TOWER APARTMENT WAS CLAIM THAT HIS GAUDY TRUMP WORTH THREE TIMES ITS ACTUAL TOWER VALUE. MICHAEL, WAS THREE TIMES YOU WERE ONCE ITS ACTUAL HIS LAWYER. VALUE. MICHAEL, YOU ARE BASED ON WHAT WE KNOW OF ONCE LAWYER. BASED ON WHAT WE THE ATTORNEY GENERALS KNOW OF THE INTERNAL LAWSUITS, HOW GENERAL LAWSUIT. MUCH OF THE HOW MUCH OF THE ICEBERG ICEBERG HAS JAMES UNCOVERED? HAS JAMES >> UNCOVERED? >> I THINK SHE'S UNCOVERED I THINK SHE UNCOVERED EVERYTHING. EVERYTHING. SHE NAMED SHE NAMED 200 DIFFERENT 200 DIFFERENT VIOLATIONS. VIOLATIONS, 200 DIFFERENT -- 200 -- IN HER INDICTMENT. IN HER INDICTMENT. THIS IS NOT A JOKE. THIS IS NOT A JOKE. YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALL WE'VE ALL SEEN THIS SORT OF SEEN THIS SCENARIO SORT OF OVER AND OVER AGAIN SCENARIO OVER AND OVER, WHICH AGAIN. IS, OH, THAT'S A, WHICH, IS THAT, DONALD COCKED, THAT DONALD IS IT'S ALL OVER. COOKED. IT'S ALL OVER. REST WEST ASSURED, ASSURED TISH JAMES THAT -- HOUSTON SOMETHING HAS DONE SOMETHING NOW NOW THAT THAT NOBODY ELSE HAS DONE. SNOW ONE ELSE HAS DONE. WHETHER IT IS GOING AND WHETHER IT'S TO BE FANNY -- IN WELLNESS IN GEORGIA, OR GEORGIA THE -- IN OR -- IN WASHINGTON. YOU NAME IT WASHINGTON, YOU NAME. . THIS IS TAXES. THIS IS TAXES. NUMBERS DON'T NUMBERS DON'T LIE, PEOPLE DO. LIE. PEOPLE DONALD TRUMP DO. AND DONALD TRUMP LIES, SO THE PROBLEM LIES. SO THE PROBLEM IS YOU IS, THEY CAN'T CAN'T EVEN GET EVEN GET HIM ON TO THE HIM ON STANDS IN ORDER TO -- TESTIFY, IN ORDER TO BECAUSE IF YOU DO TESTIFY BECAUSE IF YOU YOU KNOW, DO HE IS NOT, HE'S NOT GOING TO TELL THE TRUTH. GOING TO TELL THE TRUTH AND HE IS -- YOU'RE GONNA CATCHMENTS HER IN A HEARTBEAT. YOU'RE GOING TO CATCH HIM IN HARVEY. >> MICHAEL, LIEUTENANT COLONEL JAMES HAD FLAT OUT THE INVESTIGATION STARTED AFTER MICHAEL DE COHEN TESTIFY TO CONGRESS THAT MR. TRUMP AND HIS EMPLOYEES MANIPULATED HIS NETWORK TO SUIT HIS INTEREST. THAT'S TESTIMONY THAT YOU GET BEFORE CONGRESS WAS GETTING 2019. AND ADDITIONAL TO SUING HIM, THE AG ALSO MADE CRIMINAL REFERRALS TO THE IRIS, IN THE U.S. ATTORNEY FOR THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK. DO YOU THINK TRUMP IS FINALLY ON THE ROAD TO BE HELD LEGALLY ACCOUNTABLE? >> THE ANSWER IS YES. THE ONLY THING THAT, AND I'M CERTAIN THAT THE AG JAMES AND THE IRIS, THEY NEED TO ACT. I NOTICE JAMES WILL DO THAT. ONE OF DONALD TRUMP'S FAVOR PLAYS IS DELAY, DELAY, THE LEAD. HE WILL LOOK TO DELETE EVERYTHING. YOU MAY RECALL IN HER 200 PAGE INDICTMENT, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT SHE TALKS ABOUT IS THE DOCUMENTS THAT THEY ULTIMATELY RECOVERED IN THE FBI RAID ON MAR-A-LAGO. DOCUMENTS THAT HE WAS REQUIRED, PURSUING TO SUBPOENA, TO TURN OVER. THAT SUBPOENA WAS AFTER THE LAWSUIT TRUMP LOST -- ST - THE LOSS THAT SUBPOENA, REFUSES TO TURN IT OVER, CLAIMS