De La Soul On Trugoy The Dove, Music Ownership, Hip Hop’s Evolution, New Album & More | Drink Champs

foreign [Music] [Music] all right [Music] [Music] [Music] what up it's DJ efn and this is military war happy hour actually drink Champs drink Champs I always forget to say that and when I tell you these brothers here are icons are Beyond Legends you know part of my mostly my childhood consists of their music they have stayed timeless have stayed relevant have had one of the most beautiful stories in hip-hop the fact that they got their stuff back um the fact that you know they stayed up every day I never I never seen them cry I've never seen them I don't they they they've real Legends Legends they're real men of men I'm proud to call them my friend I'm proud to call them what exactly who they are impeccable individuals these are great men and we all should give them their flowers not just drink Champs everybody's got to give them their flowers these are part of one of the greatest groups of all time and I say that without stuttering in case you don't know who the [ __ ] we talking about so Mom one only they love [ __ ] so guys man um last time you guys was here we were speaking about uh the resurrection of getting back you guys uh material how did that how did that uh play out it played out pretty successfully wow um what ended up happening Tom Silverman ended up selling the entire Tommy Boy catalog yes to a company called Reservoir media our friend sister right person who's been our partner in hip-hop and wow looked out for all of us you know wow yes bigger Faith yeah bigger Faith yeah you know and made the her and her Partners made the deal right okay so I mean I don't I don't want you to reveal anything that you guys can't reveal but for people for people who's sitting in your situation right now um what can you say about like how did y'all go about this um what was this a sit down y'all have some coffee and yeah and because one thing about y'all let me just tell you something and I know what every rapper gets hated all right but one thing about y'all I I don't see no one hating on y'all like I'm not saying y'all got haters but I don't see it right so it's like to me everybody wants to see y'all win so how did y'all go about if I could jump in like after we did drink Champs wow that helped start like a momentum as well of having these these discussions with you know the owners of Tommy Boy at the time um every now and then they will come to the table with something was a little better right but still needed some work without question I'll make sure the whole world know this man right here was not backing down he was not well he was hitting me after we did the episode like yo keep let's keep putting the pressure I remember yeah so you know I'm just being if if I can give you that bit of like inside stuff there was moments where like yo I could be like yo this is good God bless the dead could be like yo this is I think we can kind of work with this make sure it's like nah can't work with this and I love y'all and y'all my brothers but yo man we shouldn't settle right you know what I'm saying should be no level of settling all right and um we kept pushing and until it would be times where they go dark we chilling we doing what we do they come back around hey yo we've made it like this it makes us like nah all right you know what I'm saying it's a unique situation knowing that um it never happened to no other group or artists like this wow where the label would fold and the groups or artists keep going a lot of times when the label fold the Artisan group fold as well right right you know trying to figure out situations we have been able to really sustain yes we had been able to carry on as far as putting out music Kickstarter especially with the kickstarter I'm so proud of that because that got nominated for a Grammy at that so wow and Tommy Boy trying to make their comeback their comeback was based on us still being a part of that so that was the things I understood and the Hair It Is is like yeah we humble Gods but I know my value yeah I know I know I've been playing this game since high school you know and it's been on on the job training you're a veteran and behind it all it's like this was the moment in time I had to really take on my leadership and the crew I mean everybody has their warranty leadership at moments and times and it it just comes at Divine moments when God is calling right and it was in my spirit like that like nah we can't do this and there was times I would almost buckled I almost buckled a few times you know and I gotta be honest you know I got a good woman on my team my wife you know with the help of Her counsel as well right you know it how out my decision right to help our decision because for for a long time the music wasn't even available right not at all over 20 years in 20 years we out there performing music that people can't even get yeah and then now we also hit the stage rocking with the gorillas for over 10 years and in the front of a mega new audience and they can't even get it right you know so the only thing they didn't could the only thing they could get was like physical releases that were yeah you know they find it like you know there you go like whatever little thrift store vinyl store and Japan we ain't necessarily benefiting from it but it's in the time we even released it for nothing we've released it for free like 2010 yeah around the 30th and the 30th Anniversary we connected with some website that was in in Russia somewhere and took it from them they gave it to the audience for free because it's just wow one available you know wow so just uh being a true artist you know wanting the people to just have your music that was what is what it was about in that moment in time like right you know when Warner Brothers had it it was like so many infractions around it which the samples was the biggest issue right they didn't think it was worth putting it out so under the Warner Brothers system it was all stuck but yeah when there's when he made the sale to Reservoir you know magic happened yeah you know they made it work they made it they made it comfortable for us to really get back to work right yeah because I I could I can remember like hearing when y'all got y'all rights back how hip-hop just supported y'all like I believe it's a rumor like every one of your albums went sold a million or something like that or like I think it went straight to number one so like yeah yeah yeah it's been phenomenal yes but it has I mean like there's points where there's lists like a catalog lists um and it can be like Fleetwood Mac number one day last Soul number two Thriller number three like three feet I'm rising like it's it's been like we're charting like we've never charted before like releases are now being these re-releases on this charting really high and this is a blessing you know hip-hop really really loves you guys yeah man we really we we the people really yeah what is that oh it's you know we did we did the Pharrell joint last week oh last week also Something In The Water yeah I didn't want to get my sneakers messed up this year every time I go to that goddamn concert my sneakers don't come back the same I would kid you not no more there's something in the dirt there's something in the goddamn Beach that [ __ ] about that big of a problem hold up real quick with the re-release just for anybody that's wondering and under trying to understand the the technicality of the business side all those issues with the samples from before how does that get resolved when it gets re-released great question well we we spent once we got everything in order with Reservoir we spent pretty much almost a year just year and a half yeah taking care of whatever needs to be um because now you can own 100 yeah so you now are you have to administer make sure everything is taken care of wow so it was um but even the beauty in that was coming across these different Publishers and artists you know they were really helpful man they really wanted everything done we had a lot of you know from even the people who own the copyright samples it was like I said it was a real unique situation based off what we exposed to the World by fighting for our rights right right you know that's dope yeah no honestly yo y'all helped that's right Jay helped yes Quest live and black thought when you say Jay you talk about Jay-Z he decided to not he called RBI Elliot Wilson called up and was like yo what y'all want to do y'all want to stream it not stream it was like not streaming right don't stream it I'm just shout out to not streaming and that set the tone for Spotify not to do it Apple not to do it wow because title didn't do it oh no and you know you know how the muscles behind the scene can choke you out you know what I'm saying no they helped us out yeah that's that's that's very dope that you just said that because I totally forgot that I didn't go over my head but I just remember that's my first like time of me being proud of hip-hop it's like that was like you know you we usually have discrepancies against each other but that was the first time I've seen Hip-Hop come all together and was like nah they doing daylight wrong and everyone what is it Jay about three times in my whole career right you know what I'm saying right and for that to be I know we all mean something to each other whether we rivalry and maternity it's def I'm sorry to cut you but it's definitely a blessing even to fast forward up to like this previous Grammy Award in the 50th uh celebration and like run into different people there you know uh seeing Rick Ross clapping five and I'm about to let go and he grabs me and he's like yo man I'm proud that y'all got y'all got music back and we waiting like it was just great to see people just really coming together to see what you know needed to be done and the fact that we got everything back and they were just just as proud you know like you said like a fraternity all proud together the coach showed a real community in him yeah like it is a community I forgot there was a community I forgot because we're always at each other and that was the first time like you know um seeing people fighting with you guys yeah I felt like we was fighting with you guys like you know what I'm saying like you know um you know like how they they see people uh marching and it's like I feel like I was outside marching with y'all because and I got the same story that's what's crazy about it it's like I got this I thought it was the same [ __ ] fight the same exact fight so it's like this is something this is something that like I'm proud of hip-hop I'm proud of hip-hop for making this happen I'm proud of you guys for sticking to your guns I'm proud of it because now I know to stick to my gun you know what I'm saying because it's been times I wanted to give up like you know what I mean I think about it you know after 30 years they're supposed to give you back your rights anyway my [ __ ] is 25. so I'm like five years away but I would love to make this deal but it's it's crazy for me seeing y'all gives gives gives me hope because when you think about it this is our music why shouldn't we own it like why shouldn't we own it like at least be partners in it based on the criteria of what we trying to look for in certain deals you know some people aren't able to fund themselves you know so you are looking for some type of funding and you may have to give something up to gain something right you know but as time goes along I always looked at it like a a job when you first come in for a job you don't expect to be managed your first day no but if you do tremendously at the job you do well you look to get a raise at some point right you know a lot of us haven't gotten that you know a lot of us hadn't got that raised or them benefits and even for the deals that the labels still cut you know they need to offer more benefits Right medical benefits yeah something like that too yeah yeah I mean something such as that because it's worked for higher no different than any other employment you know what I'm saying so and then and then it does [ __ ] it should change based on success yes that that work for hire should turn into some sort of partnership right you know and I think what what's happening is we're all lifting the veil of the absurdity of these agreements that say in perpetuity in the universe oh man because we didn't know what perpetuity we didn't know what digital Rights was I kept asking what does that word mean no one wanted to tell me until I looked it up and I was like hell to the night because I thought about it when even when I thought about it and I never had signed over digital rights I never signed over did it because there was nothing called digital back yeah I never signed over ringtones there was nothing so but they covering it with that yeah if everybody listening right now they covering it with AI too yeah so understand what you're signing with this perpetuity in the entire universe yes yeah it's wild yeah yes it's not it's as well especially for the artists who are being able to capitalize off this you know technical world of the internet and being able to I mean if we had that back then we'd probably be able to cut better deals 100 they the internet has gave these artists a bargaining power right you're out there building your own energy up and then they coming in the scoop off your energy and maybe add the machine to take it elsewhere yeah it's fine but you done made million plus right off of doing your own independent thing that deal structure should be a little bit more in your favor it's great to see um a lot of young kids very familiar with the data you know they can show them like look it's undeniable right I can see right here what I'm doing in this I understand their analytics Analytics algorithms and all of that we had to go visit a DJ yeah I'm a member physically I didn't go to London the record wouldn't go to London like I physically had to go to London I had to go to promote everything not London every city yeah that's how we met you yeah that's crazy and nowadays you could press one button that should be everywhere yeah like I remember literally nrre came out we hit number one and and every town that I had to go I had to go to every single town they had to look at the what was was algorithms back then and they had to say okay you're doing you're not doing this BDS you're not doing good in Philly so they go to Philly like physically do that as of right now you could just yeah you could stream you don't even have to leave your house the pandemic had me pissed off I said these [ __ ] are dropping albums and staying in their house yeah yeah they was like this I'm like what the [ __ ] God didn't work [ __ ] well we were doing the same thing with quarantine Champs I hated quarantine it was a blessing for us I hated it it had been every moment of quarantine I hated it there you go like you gotta give me a five I want you to smell my cologne I want you to feel me yeah I want you to smell my butt dude you ain't gonna give him a blunt yeah come on are you making us look crazy okay yeah okay so let me ask you about that how about during the time um of you guys did you you was in control of your own merch because I always we've always been playing my own merch right but you have seen mostly bootleg stuff out really yeah yeah because Charles got a bootlegged shirts that was like the first night collab right y'all collab with like earlier how was that how was that [ __ ] we happen to be at the magic that was ASR some in San Diego that usually happens like this uh yeah I think it's got ASR we was in we was doing some LRG um and yeah just walking through the arena where they had all the booths set up ran into um people over there at Nike this brother uh Robbie Jeffers who's working with them I mean I think he's working between stucy and Nike and um he we had a show out there like there's some Street Fair they usually do we had them come through and then he just happened to just mention like yo would you be down to do a dunk I was like of course and he made the call and it just it just fell into place you know what I'm saying so yeah damn yeah legendary man that took like a year from that meeting yeah yeah that was really cool you got your own [ __ ] like yeah man come on guys stop being so humble our show is about giving people flowers so we need to give you y'all flowers to your face and Mr Lee's always late he's always our Dominican friend it's always late yo what are you doing holy man all right yeah man oh man I just brought you all so it's beautiful true boy rest in peace for you to present it to his family if you can if you can you know we definitely will yes oh beautiful so let's make some noise [Applause] let me just tell y'all man we are huge fans got family to us and we are so happy for what y'all y'all accomplished and as y'all keep going this is um better than the Grammys this is hip-hop man that's right that's all before we go I'm not saying hip-hop honors VH1 right these two right here we go man you guys had an album on Master Pilgrim correct with nas it was supposed to be it's still in play we just gotta get it you know we gotta get it done we got to get it done yeah yeah okay and um something we we hope to get done I mean there was a there weren't a lot of Rhymes that Dave completed because it was a PR it was a Pete rocking Premiere oh joint wow oh that's right yeah the premium sold on the Rock so we got some stuff done not enough you know and hopefully we can just pull it all together so there will be another daylight out I mean without question it's gonna de la stuff well I'm in a mess of um I'm in the process right now working on the trilogy of artificial intelligence the third installment are we breaking news right now I feel like we breaking news right now the third installment is being worked on as we speak like yeah for real like that's what's going on I mean it was supposed to be a DJ related record anyway you know what I'm saying so I'm getting it done yeah but everybody got one and two yeah like you know what I'm saying out there yeah man yeah we we definitely staying with work music coming out lyrics daylight related stuff we we here like me and Maze immediately kind of locked in and was just like yo man we gotta we gotta keep this going like you know as difficult as this yeah like I hit him with the straight like rainbow analogy from B Street I was like yo man we gotta turn this nigga's death into a celebration right and he really felt that you know what I'm saying and that's how we really feel you know like speaking of that sorry to cut you off I want you to get back to what you're saying but I think that with Dave Chappelle when I I felt like y'all counted it down but it's like 12. then it comes down for the thing to come like I literally I literally tears came out my mind and I seen how Dave Chappelle was so happy for you oh yeah and that that's that's the that's the thing about you like I said I said it earlier is I don't see your haters like I only see y'all supporters and to me to me that's some honorable [ __ ] like you know what I'm saying to see everybody from hip-hop just come out and celebrate you guys like that's a beautiful thing man you guys are really icons you guys are really listening yo the the speak on that and I saw you was saying like yo that was a joint you wish you was at and I bugged out because I I told man so I was like yo before Dave's death dog yo you was on my list like I was like yo I'm gonna tell efn I'm gonna tell Nori I know y'all here right but because this this this party was in play when you jump oh I didn't know we weren't even talking about drink champs yeah so yo you were on my list to come through but when everything happened with Dave all right it was kind of like people in play that this was like yo we gonna reach out to these people it was like kind of cool and so when I was bugging when I saw you said like yo this yeah you ain't never needed no invitations like I said no that was beautiful you and I had a tumultuous moment at one time but in that moment you need to know I showed up for you that's right the wild [ __ ] is that I almost said it last time we was here right I never experienced Puerto Rican Day prevention I didn't even know what to expect you know what I'm saying and Tommy Boy yeah called me says come DJ for CNN yeah okay you know and yeah and I was also able to have my upcoming rappers rap after I did what I needed to do for them yeah you know yes but we got out there I spoke to norie two days before trying to prep for it he's like nah don't worry about that just play the record we seeing it you know I'm almost away about all that you know like yo are you sure you know I mean I'm the one who likes to prepare you know what I'm saying so I've never experienced Puerto Rican Day Parade you know and I'm looking at it from when I see it on TV I see the floats and highs rocking and [ __ ] we get out there and Tommy Boy got us on like a pickup truck you know what I'm saying it was oh fugazi to begin with I was like I was like oh [ __ ] I get out there like oh [ __ ] already off my experience you're doing things I'm going oh it's 100 degrees outside so I'm already thinking about equipment [ __ ] up and everything and immediately I play a [ __ ] CNN record and it starts melting on oh my God these big mouths get mad dudes getting frustrated with me because the music this is my perception of it the music ain't popping right and we riding for a minute and every time and mind you I didn't hide mad copies of their stuff in my crate along with other [ __ ] right my young dudes they stuff was on a hard drive right right it's the replay yeah so yeah we weren't professional at all I was young and I just he was treating me and all them young [ __ ] treat him and what we did was our little performance and [ __ ] yeah but it was knocking it was knocking I see [ __ ] frustrated his man tried to grab the mic for my Manchester back and forth the show is Still rocking it still rhyming words [Applause] because he was grabbing the dude that he was grabbing the microphone was super tempted too so I'm like nah you're not going to be timid with me nah nah that's real [ __ ] and then Nori came over like I knew he had to be the ambassador because he had all these [ __ ] with him and it was like if he says go it's go and I did play like at the time him and bumpy wasn't getting along either I remember that so I didn't play an intro thing Bobby did a song with me Carl you don't want to bust that [ __ ] and he's on a song so I played the acapella version of that before we got to our thing oh you're right yeah okay he came over he came out he he's like [ __ ] I don't even like at the time I definitely did yeah and it's just like five of us man if I did anything to offend you I apologize all right I apologize I was I was hurt for about three hours but then after that I was like he good man he good for that because [ __ ] that I didn't did yeah I'm getting the [ __ ] that I haven't [ __ ] yeah I was like all right oh this [ __ ] is definitely terrorized some sounds yeah I've had my fish did y'all listen to new artists are y'all into this yeah yeah who oh man it's really hard to say man it's it's just I like more songs than I could say albums okay like I like little Uzi vert I like him a lot I actually got a beat that I take works for I don't know why I keep doing it I I mess with him I mean I got I got kids that's in their 20s and 30s so we talk music all the time my son raps you know what I'm saying oh wow yeah it's pretty good you know wow and I and I was a DJ I just DJ and a producer I Look to stay connected right and I'm always trying to learn I stay a student to this [ __ ] yeah wow and they got to keep learning it can go anywhere it don't matter if it gave up on this new generation nah man hey man I've never seen Play Nothing new but is out here you know what I'm saying like you said like it could be Oozy it could be [Music] from the bay no little rush it's a lot of kids out here that's doing their thing yeah 50 years old y'all yeah like 50. you know what I'm saying I remember when we came the generation before Russ wasn't [ __ ] with us you know what I'm saying I think what ended up happening what ended up happening is cats become a force to be reckoned with you may not like it but it's in your conversation you know you gotta at least figure out what it is it's got these kids rocking to it you know I mean and I learned from George Clinton anything that make the parents upset is rocking it's cool that's what he sees basically said that on the show yeah he smoked a lot too he stood here and smoked a lot oh man yeah he said the more they hate it on he's more interested he drank too I I did not think he was going to drink but mind you it was and not to cut you but like me and him were just we did Coachella with gorillas we did like he was showing me all the clips it was like um foreign the second weekend we hung out with our sons you know with my youngest son he was two of his sons and it was just dope you know my son's taking me to different stages like yo Pierre um was these kids I think they call Suicide Kings or something like that yeah so it was just dope to see because I studied that crowd's reaction what they're doing because I we we always students of looking out people rocking the stage stage presence yeah it's a lot man it means a lot you know so and I'm into all that and I think it started but I think also the way that we used to discover music is different so for us in our generation like we want to like physically like be it somewhere and you we we saw these MC's coming up in the club at a battle or or a DJ played in the club and it was all new now streaming for me is harder to get into newer artists because it's so much it's so much it's definitely a lot you know I mean I agree with you but I I sometimes go down a rabbit hole with it like you know you went to one artist and they'll say yo if you like this all this here's a similar artist just kind of just keep going with it sometimes they're wrong I know I know where you're at with that that's why I asked people to put me on this [ __ ] right yeah I'd rather get recommended and not ask because it is a rabbit hole you go deep down yeah and you'll get caught up in your own personal feelings of what you like as opposed of balancing it out for you yeah at least me for a DJ yeah yeah I try to balance it out if it does not you know June Larry June is dope Autumn catch man yeah there you go symbols I like yeah man that's my man yeah crazy yeah [ __ ] that Larry June that [ __ ] random facts like I want my kids people don't talk about enough Toby now wigwe yo yeah so just the level of the musical activities individuality is there you know so he got bars I can put him in a cipher with some Savages and he'll live yeah but you know what's dope about now for artists like that is that they don't need The Gatekeepers they don't to find Their audience no you're right we're all talking about different artists everybody's like who what what yeah and each of these Arts were mentioning have millions of followers do their shows festivals they don't need us to even know who they are because they found their audience and that's what's dope about it it's really dope and funny enough as we was talking about a little bit earlier yo it was artists like that who championed on behalf of us because like they were saying like yo Dale I deserved this [ __ ] like they could talk that [ __ ] for us because they felt like yo I don't got no no one over us yeah like honestly I got no problem saying it it was like this one lawyer on their side who was like talking to our lawyer and was like yo man I got I got um clients that don't want to [ __ ] with me because they know that I'm trying to not [ __ ] with daylight right you know what I'm saying like trying to like [ __ ] this [ __ ] up on behalf of Tommy Boy like that's how much these young artists had our backs who we never met you know what I'm saying uh that's that's that's beautiful man remember Thomas live let's go now you want to explain the game you guys get two choices we pick one we don't drink if you pick both or neither we're drinking all of us are drinking okay say that again okay hold on before I send it too fast this time yeah you get two choices myself you get two choices name Person plays it like a person place hold on let me explain okay two choices if you if you pick one the non-politically correct answer you pick one of the two nobody drinks if you say both or neither which would be the politically correct answer if you don't want her feelings or you really mean both you know yeah then we then we drinking I can get busy for eign [Applause] the second guy huh and and we got we got you we got you kicking ice cream too sorry yeah yeah I got it you ready I didn't get it though [Music] assistant you can start to like okay I'm gonna go to the second one you go to the first one you saw this nigga's face holy [ __ ] drop quests or jungle Brothers A Tribe Called trash damn y'all answer that way too fast let me get my shot ready come on okay okay you go to the first one black daughter Styles P um Andy or major this is a big debate here it's a big debate here me and him always disagree but you see how you had the experience of both you know and and uh I don't give a big I I can see Indies doing business with Majors you know there's this is what I say too that's kind of my [ __ ] no that's my [ __ ] that's my [ __ ] I say be it Independence you could take advantage of the major yo man that's how it's been since the system being Silverman did it like that right yeah like that yeah you know raucous everybody yeah like that you know it's been like that since the beginning of the time right so I don't see that ever being an issue it's just all about how the deals are structured yeah period so what's that man that's not like a shot to me we missing a shot over here see ya oh man cheers fellas thank you thank you [ __ ] okay he's called drinking so he was like 40. I thought you could say he was 40. I smoke weed for the first time well I did it yeah I took a hit that was some sucker [ __ ] wait what because yeah I'm on your side too if if smoked some weed with somebody else other than me it could slightly get a pass because it was with Chappelle you know yeah you know even Chappelle know better yeah Chappelle and Prince gets a pass I won't be mad you know what I'm saying like yeah I mean snatch me from Chappelle's yeah it was it was kind of like after the Webster Hall joint Chappelle went to do something some comedy [ __ ] I [ __ ] with him and then afterwards he did like this little toast to Dave and he was just like you know we had already did like [ __ ] like 10 shots for sure yeah so he was just by himself and I was standing there and he was just in his own mind he was like for Dave and he took a puff and I snatched it and I said the same thing I'm sorry that was my alarm and um yeah so everyone saw me do it and bugged out immediately it was like Smiles My Romance like puff more my wife is like they're like so yes I can't tell [ __ ] cause I had already did like eight shots so I don't I really don't know I don't know all right um oh yeah you want to go okay I got this one Q-tip or Pharrell Jesus Tupac or DMX Tupac Tupac they are good Primo Pete Rock um [Music] [Laughter] this is a good one Jada Kiss or Nas a I gotta take a shot okay does that go for both of y'all now I gotta take a shot over digging digging it all right okay bars okay bars Let It Go wow that's a good one Street or cross Grove Peach Tree yeah they In Cahoots though like when they when they stay together yeah Easy Ear Nipsey easy yeah yeah yeah Biggie or Big L big big rest in peace okay [Music] 80s or 90s hip-hop 90s 90s find these [ __ ] 90s hip-hop yeah I'm going 90s too 90s hip-hop Red Alert okay Capri oh I'm surprised hmm it is I was for a DJ it's tough yes tough one based on what they both really great at you know right it doesn't make one not great but you're gonna make me choose right it's kicker free yeah I have to choose Capri overall worldwide what he's done in the Arenas he's actually Capri is actually has been the first DJ to make the DJ actually look like an artist yeah yep take Center Stage yep yep and for the foreign first to grab the mic Rock the crowd maybe next to DJ Hollywood but the way Capri does it truly like he's in Hollywood Wu-Tang Wu-Tang I don't want to go with my honey bun give me some of that yum yum yum yeah yeah hey hey we need could you wrap on here yeah we do cool money love or Roxanne Shantae Roxanne Shantae yeah money my sister but Roxanna the morning we was trying to get Modi to guest house yeah all right all right yeah that's the next one Rick Ross and Fat Joe Raja Fat Joe Rocky mccarrus one carers one careless one yeah big punter Guru Big Pun of Guru Guru yeah rest in peace look at each other they ain't even looking at each other human behavior they're good man MLP or mob deep update MLP is m-o-p okay okay okay so that means we're drinking I think we got a drink but you guys don't have to drink you you guys MLP for me yeah I got a drink no you don't have to next one owl or Big Daddy Kane I'll drink [Music] y'all mentioned me in the other day on um I saw you went live with him last night I went live I didn't say he was alive you definitely wasn't in the line you didn't even know you was online yo the comments were hilarious oh really you're doing drink Champs right now oh I woke up in the morning it was Charlie Mac and LL ain't you I don't remember nothing oh my God I looked I said why did he attack me I was mad because like no we got drink Champs tomorrow why the [ __ ] are you doing drink Champs right now oh my bad my bad it was a great day yesterday man oh yeah Queen Latifah or MC light which is a great versus by the way we need both of them here please one I'm gonna have to go a Latifah this is my favorite you didn't have to drink you have to drink well that was something okay okay damn okay this is my favorite it's my favorite one of all of these questions Wu-Tang or NWA Wu-Tang Wu-Tang It's the East Coast jump right out right out of you NWA is amazing but yes Wu-Tang I would say NWA has been one of the biggest Inspirations yeah especially as far as live shows also we tour with them in 89 and it was awesome tour that must have been yeah it was the Nitro tour a Nitro tour LL Cool J us Slick Rick NWA Kane Public Enemies EPMD that definitely went to rehearsal nah everybody came with a yeah we was the New Jersey it was the new ones yeah so what did you get from NWA that you know they had inspired you the most incredible stage show I mean their stage presence that it was like watching a Broadway play they had girls on the on the on they have this the [ __ ] set up like a block right and on the street pole with holes on the corner yeah police sirens on the speakers and [ __ ] Rises and [ __ ] with [ __ ] is jumping off they bring out doc first yeah then um no first not DLC MC first Daniela and then uh uh yellow go up and DJ Drake and Drake and Rick comes out of these like manhole shits like it was it was amazing yeah I've never heard it yeah then then Cube they kind of did for me what I felt like Wu-Tang should have did like in terms of breaking it up opposed to comment out always all together right right they really like well who started to do not they began to watch out yeah yeah amazing like Switzerland somewhere Denmark or something and they all came out one by one one by one yeah and the way they brought Kappa Donna I was [ __ ] nuts you know what I'm saying but yeah yeah not NWA definitely but Wu-Tang [Music] I remember I was on the tour with Keith Perry and um met the man was hosting this show so before I would come on met the man with Cole and he would hype up the crowd and I was like I don't want you to Hype up the crowd can you you want Keith Mary's tour bus can you stay okay Mary set and that's it like I remember being so mad because who the [ __ ] wants to go after a person walking on people's ass and I I can't I can't fit that I can't go if I'm walking people here somebody gonna fall you know what I'm saying somebody gonna fall it's gonna be something well I remember that a bigger Method Man without question yeah okay so let's finish this up and then um we'll get back to the interview video music box or um TV wraps video music video music box big old Ralph McDaniels all right Uncle Ralph good Nino Brown or Frank White round of Frank White Nino Brown noodle bro I love how you had to think about this one he's sitting there like hmm [ __ ] New Jack City was dope Frank was quiet with his ruthlessness so I know what you're going for I know yes I am off New Jack City was really based on a true story you know what I mean it's halfway you know no um because it was um what is it supposed to be based on on the Carter right that's what it is based on a couple of people's stuff yes right right I gotta go with Frank White okay that means we got a drink yeah that means we gotta drink that Silo I got a drink there's a um there's a story about what Scarface is based on Scarface is based on five different characters yeah from from Miami so it's crazy because Scarface is based on a real story but it's based on five different individuals you know what I'm saying so they put them together and it's crazy because I know one of them ah huh no no no no it's not based on making Mondays no no no the guy that owns CVS like this guy he looks so cool he he wear glasses he and then and then and he'll just sit there and you're like hey so how are you doing you know he'll be like hey man you know I used to sell drugs to the Future what the [ __ ] cause he looks so cool you're like no it's no way and um oh my God like you got to beat him he's [ __ ] hilarious um I was I was sitting down having um lunch I was sitting down at the dance having a regular salad I was sitting there having lunch and he he saw me and then Fat Joe who came into the restaurant was like some ironic [ __ ] and he was like I just knew this guy was somebody so he said it's a fat joke about me he was like I knew it was somebody and I looked and I I couldn't I couldn't because he looks like like a normal person until he says something he's not normal I'm like yeah he got this chick he's in a book and he hates it because like how they described him he hates but it's crazy so when I say that that's what Nino Brown is kind of like based on okay this is one of my favorite questions too analog or digital I always say analog was better because like if we have to do a record together we have to be face to face yeah you couldn't send me you know a two inch rail you couldn't send me a real like those rails was like little doors like so like you couldn't say a little door I'm sorry I didn't mean it like that yeah edit by cutting the tape I always tell people I said yo Super Thug is one take like a lot of people don't understand what what what what I did that in one take because I didn't know how to punch in oh I actually counting his bars yeah what what what what what one what what what what what what two what what that's how I counted bars so that's the reason why yeah and I had to do this [ __ ] in one take so um when I left I remember Pharrell said I said yo all we need is a hook we got the hook and I said no we don't and he took my ones out what what what what what one what what what what what what two what he took those out he left it there I was like they're gonna laugh at me he said you're gonna laugh all the way to the bank [Applause] I'm so excited okay last one it's the last one for this and this is only one that I really feel like isn't a trick question loyalty or respect hmm I see respect I said circumstantial for the most part because the person who is loyal to you can lose respect for you but still stay loyal to you know there's that loyalty that's attached to love um that people can be unconditionally attached to but they don't necessarily perspective but necessarily respect you or lose respect for you but they could lose it and gain anything behind something you've done you know what I'm saying so but the Deep rooted love can remain their loyalty I mean that's why I definitely respect and respect though you cannot necessarily have anyone's trust damn you got too deep accomplish Ed You Gotta Have It All yeah I see both I gotta have it both you know you gotta have the loyalty and the respect you know because when you also a person who's conditioned with a lot of loyalty and you feel like you lost respect that's something like you know that's a sense of Pride you lose when you feel like people don't you lose respect from the people you love right I love it all right [ __ ] I love that that's what the shots so um I always wanted to ask y'all like I went through your catalog one of my favorite records every Saturday I want to hear Saturday um did y'all make that record on Saturday but the crazy thing is I put that record together and it wasn't for daylight boom what yeah go for it it was um amongst us as natives getting together yeah we started doing these like little side groups where like say mace Dave Mike G and Sammy B was supposed to be this thing another dude from my neighborhood yeah named Pop Life they're supposed to be supposed to be a group called kids on Zenith Ave [Music] say that again Q-tip Africa African jungle book Judy from the beaten this was also native yeah and me I forgot that yeah when we first was really starting to hang around jungle Juju was always with Africa in them because Juju like they beat shop together so I thought Juju was a part of jungle because Juju was always with jungle because they used him and him in Africa were like right shout from for records but uh yeah we were fabulous fleas we did a demo and everything that's a little name too yeah fabulous fleas um Juju did I got I got the tape of a JuJu did this one record it was called fabulous fleas um uh Africa did this joint called the night I got swatted it was banging tip did this joint so I had to come up with something I was like damn man this [ __ ] is crazy so it's just one record I found overseas um the mighty writers record I put that together I put all the stuff together the beat and everything and um I became a roller skate Jam called Saturdays and um the the rhyme style was based off of Chic when it was like uh you know please stand for girls so that's how we was supposed to rhyme with a record and then meanwhile Tommy Boy was sitting us like yo man everything is coming out dope this ring ring record is dope but we need something else so I asked them I was like yo man can I take this back and use it for daylight it was like yeah yeah go ahead and so the rhyme style became more of a singing thing five days you work one whole day you're playing and you wanna be in Vinnie or singing it and she just sucks yeah Saturday yeah I never knew that yeah damn it yeah but let's also um body um how did how did this record come come about jungle just showed up that day if they would have showed up the day after they could have been on Ghetto thing they just showed up the day we was working on that record literally it wasn't like a planned thing they they came by the studio that day we was working on that record and then we just kind of made it where like yeah y'all talked about Jimmy we talked about Jenny when Jimmy and Jenny get together what is it it's Buddy so that's how that record kind of came together yeah it was just just like that you're mad dumb as a young [ __ ] [Music] Jimmy's the man Anatomy Jennifer's the girl Anatomy you put it together sex is but but yeah so let me ask about native tongue right because I actually had a native tongue t-shirt on but I put it on and it was too tight on me let me chill let me let me let me get my life together I'm glad it's between me and Charles yeah we're gonna be looking crazy but but that was like like to me like I said native tongue when I when I thought of that I didn't know that that was like a crew like like almost like yeah right and you don't see that no more you don't see like uh a Q-tip running around with like a deal I saw you don't see a Busta Rhymes running around with you know these how was it being a part of native tongue how was that I mean we were just friends man I know it sounds weird to say that meaning like when we came into this and we running around with Paul yeah principal could be working with MC light so then that's how we started hanging around first priority music which is light and audio two and so it was like first record I ever mixed down was MC like swinging yeah yeah with Prince Paul yeah so yeah it was just like you were happy to be down dog right because before we came out we were in the Latin quarters and we would see Yo they go Kane they go this person yo they go Greg nice so like when you on you hanging with everybody it just becomes like but who after the day on day you really hang around with and it it just became jungle jungle brought through tip so then tip is down and then we meet Fife and Ali you know we just became crew like that you know what I'm saying like Buster just showed up at Calliope I just feel like Buster was just yelling the whole time yo he sounded like when I met him when I met Buster Buster had to been 16 and he sound exactly the same way right like his voice like I just couldn't believe he was 16. bosses called me the other day I kid you not right like three times so I'm thinking someone died so I'll pick up he like Yo God just want to let you know I changed your lyric on the vocals the bus coming three times okay because he is the long story um we got Armani right we mixed together and like he's such a he's such a artist artist that I had said 22 on the on the record but it's the year 2023 so he changed it and he wanted to show me the respect so you know I changed your vocals but I was like you know let's Busta Rhymes I respect you but he's Jeff very he's an artist artist yes he is for real for real scientist and it's incredible going back to Native tongues it almost seemed like an extension of zulu was everybody a part of Zulu Point not Mike G and asked yeah um no he became a part of zulu so yeah he did he he actually did yeah he did yeah but um yeah most of those guys um I I was definitely heavily Associated being around all the time yeah right and I think I've stayed Associated longer than everyone else okay but um yeah it was all native tongue was definitely an extension of zulu Nation yeah did you have a relationship with um Africa bambaata I had a relationship with bam okay I toured with bam uh me bam Arthur Baker um uh Danny automator we did uh the Tommy Boy 20th anniversary tour that's right yeah Tommy Boy we would see bam a lot though we're running to Bama live because I would be on a lot of DJ games yeah you know and just seeing hanging out being blessed to hang out at Red alert's crib and you know all those records and you know didn't heading up to the Bronx and you would see like we would be with the Violator so we were running to Bam we would see Jazzy J so yeah man it was it was you say he was violated and you you run the violators yes you know they ran with red you know they they they kept him right you know baby Chris so going up into the Bronx and messing with baby Chris and all of them we were you know occasionally running to Bam and I'm up there you know what I'm saying because um we had crazy legs on here right and Crazy Legs kinda implied that it was other people that was rocking the parties other than cool her yeah he said that bambata bestowed it onto herc yeah that that mantle of him being the the first yeah that was his senior it kind of hurt my feelings because I had never heard that before but I see other people say that as well but what does your take on that like you know I mean um I'm gonna drink to that okay okay I don't know what that means yeah I've witnessed it I've witnessed it be debatable yeah because not too many people debated Crazy Legs no they did not debate him a lot of people was called a double run down and we would like to get cool hurry to come here but hurt is that doesn't take away anything without question it doesn't is for lack of a better term The Godfather right yeah yeah so I give him that I honestly give them that I mean it's something that I've been identified with identifying with since I was a child right and you know the first story to be told I'm granted it's even debatable when they even talk about what was going on in Brooklyn there you go yeah that's all about the same yeah but for that to be the Monumental event that people identify with Cedric and Cedar yes like that happened to be a dope [ __ ] party obviously you know what I'm saying that people kept going to not to take anything from anyone else but it seemed like the eyes was always on the Bronx and right Manhattan specifically Harlem when it came to the culture to begin with you know so I mean any anyone's history quite honestly y'all is it's debatable I mean like what day lost story We Long Island nah it's not you know but no he was born in Brooklyn I was born in the Bronx Dave was from Brooklyn we moved to Long Island like there's just aspects of everyone's story that you can turn around be like oh wow extra P he wasn't necessary like maybe born in Queens maybe he was from Harlem like no one ain't from where they you know what I'm saying right so I mean like I think every aspect of of the story there's always another layer to the story because like he just said like what that doesn't mean that Brooklyn started rocking once Bronx was rocking Brooklyn was up and running the same way right whose story gets told first you know what I'm saying so and individually as a group each of you have your own perspective and might see things your own history even differently definitely well we've seen things that we've experienced things right right yeah based on where he coming from from the Bronx and me coming from Brooklyn and then migrating to Long Island our Journeys was different within hip-hop dog I was a little I'm sorry because I was a little kid when the blackout happened right that was in the seven that was 70. 78 wasn't it 78 or 76 or something I was born in 77. blackout happened yo all chaos outside my window my mother wouldn't let me look out the window and that's when hip pop right God is you know God really because everyone was stealing equipment oh I heard that on Rob Swiss podcast he talked about that that everybody stole the equipment yeah and all of a sudden everyone was there an exclusive club that was DJ Rob Swift yeah yeah executioner yeah he does yeah yeah that's one of the dumbest DJs executions yeah dope crew and so he was saying that and he his what he's throwing out in terms of like his effective in the DJ the history and the DJs is amazing check it out because we're trying to get DJ efn to go back to DJ I Still Rock he just is only amongst the homies because Native Instruments they sponsored me and I didn't make the chances [Applause] us being on the road and mace had to carry his crates that struggle is people don't know what that is my back is [ __ ] up now behind that [ __ ] back bro you know I remember one time I was with um it was performing in Detroit and um uh uh rest in peace Jam Master Jay and I told my DJ I was like yo yo go go get that equipment go and jump on real quick and Jam Master Jay would not let pitchfrock touch his equipment oh yeah no I didn't know that was like a a stalker like I didn't know that like he was like what you don't I'm going to DJ for Norway right now so but she's like no no you don't know witness drop it no one touches my equipment people would set up their setups next to each other if they were yeah different DJs rocking yeah DJ said it's almost like a drum kit yeah yeah yeah I'm putting it all together but prior to that it's just everybody got a certain hand waiting yeah the way they structure their needles and all of that and you don't remember these have pennies yes some people got nickels yeah yeah depending how heavy to um clubs and I remember like Funk Master Flex would like Tell The DJ before him do not play these certain records um I would be like what so I don't know if that's like a respect thing too it's like if I'm the headliner you can't play the record before me is that yeah yeah you exhaust the records that you know are gonna party in the headlining DJ right he wants that for himself I mean that's that's debatable amongst DJs because a good DJ could play the same record in a different way in a different way yeah it's the win right yeah you know and yeah that's a debatable thing yeah and not being a thing I always took pride in being a DJ that played a B-side on right yeah like Camilo Camilo's one of my favorite DJs wait until the hit record is not a hit anymore right and then play it later ah you know what I'm saying you know like a memory thing I like telling I like telling a story through the way the records that I'm playing right yeah I'm telling you a story through that's what the way I like to play the records so you gonna play again look I have so much respect for DJing DJing didn't come naturally to me yeah I didn't have any mentors I was watching videos I like I was getting whatever however I could absorb the skill and I was just but I would practice practice for hours upon hours before I had a club night or a set anywhere and then once we started doing different things and doing like those practice hours weren't coming in anymore and then the technology changed and I'm like out of respect to this art form unless someone put in those hours I'm not going back on the sets um that's how I am with um I'm seeing right now if I'm not gonna go all the way in I'm not I'm not gonna do it no more so I'm sorry to everybody because I come so natural to you dog sorry to everybody keep asking me for verses sorry I'm I like this [ __ ] yeah I get it but I'm what you wanted it in my neighborhood it's DJ craze one of the illest DJs in the world I'm like look at that I can't do this no more I'm saying this guys doing magic it's not inspire me yeah yeah like Rob swiftly the beat junkies like Boogie blonde yeah you know yes goes down yeah you know them all of them dudes man you know they don't even get the the respect they deserve it's something I'm gonna take a shot I know you don't have how much I'm gonna take a shot too this is two days you know what rest in peace Dave man you know what all day I didn't want to I didn't want to be a heavy heart I'm almost I'm hearing you yeah it's bittersweet yeah cause you know why it is like y'all my big brothers in a lot of ways yeah I was on Tommy Boy before me I came out I I felt like in a lot of ways I followed y'all footsteps without following your footsteps from following your footsteps and I can remember when I found out that you guys was fighting for your rights I remember that moment I remember me sitting back and saying their story is more important than mines and what I mean by that is I knew y'all getting y'all rights back first was more important and it still it still was to me because y'all people who I salute y'all people who I take my hat off to so y'all getting y'all yeah I'm getting it yeah yeah flowers man more to me and that's what I'm not always a good person it's about them it's about not me you I get it afterwards but if they get their rights back take it and Hip-Hop stood with y'all and I'm telling you that's a beautiful thing I really really respect y'all I really honor y'all and I'm thankful I'm thankful that y'all here man [Music] I love you that's real man and just a testament to like people laugh sometimes when I bring artifacts but I bought this as a kid yeah it was a single and because I wanted to preserve the singles I would cut cut the joint out and put in a hard plastic joint so it was good and think about it a kid buying this and the Legacy that still today which you guys are yeah I'm saying to be able to bring this now to this show today is incredible man and the Legacy you guys have impacted all of us the entire culture every single person here it goes without words man DJ efn got a tennis ball from 19 man wow I'm gonna be honest that [ __ ] is so dope bro I'm about to say I'm taking a shot for that too don't worry [Music] this is it for the God yeah you lying now let me ask you what the hell is potholes in my lawn sucking MC biting my rhyme that's it okay because you know why when I when I first heard potholes in my lawn by the way I was poor you so I didn't have a lawn so I didn't know what a lawn it was so you're like somebody's lying guys yeah MC biting my rhyme yeah as long as I Rhymes and the pothos are the chunks that our sucker and see would have bit off of to take this okay you know what I'm like in the studio though yeah when I hear the Rhymes but the beauty was I got it that was like my main connection [ __ ] with them right when I'm hearing the Rhymes I'm like oh [ __ ] I know what the [ __ ] he means yeah you want to say something else so um you know speaking about um you know rest in peace to Dave um I remember [Music] me being with pun right look I remember me going to actual pun's funeral and I stood on the side of his casket well in front of his casket and everybody kind of you know grabbed me and said he's not suffering no more and I couldn't I couldn't grasp it grasp it because I never seen puns suffer um but then I started to think about it I said remember at times where pun would fall asleep sleep apnea yeah I didn't know I was too young at the time I would look at pun and I would step my my story up I thought I was being boring you know what I mean I thought I was being boring so is that something that you guys knew about Dave or no we we knew I mean and Dave had congested how do you say good congested heart failure um we've been knowing about it since crime day Grande the Grande album there were certain things he could have done or was told to do and at one point he could be doing it you know and you just get comfortable complacent yeah and okay I'm doing what the doc told me to do I'm on point and sometimes you just want to fall off your Regiment of Health your Healthy regimen and I was about battle that he he had um mace can uh confirm what I'm saying as far as like I said to mace like me and Dave was together on the gorillas tour last year and I was just saying like yo man Dave is having a problem with just this one song like you know like we get through it we we rock it but when he gets off stage it was just like a lot like as if we had performed for almost an hour so I was like yo man I don't I don't think we're gonna tour no more I just really don't think that's gonna be possible um but I'm being honest death nah I just thought like it would be like yo they would show up on the TV [ __ ] and you know what I'm saying he could sit here and do this maybe we narrow it down to like doing three or four songs you know we were just thinking that early about you know adjusting things you know like when the Grammy thing came up all right this is a good opportunity let's do this Dave was all in but then he just I guess he just felt like well no I really can't fly and then it just didn't happen so we was all on the phone after that Grammy joint and we just all really talking and yo we was like yo man it was bittersweet I was like yo thank y'all for like giving me the props of what I did but I just missed my [ __ ] being there with me right and I was just like yo man and we just all started laughing because I was like yo this [ __ ] melee Mel still got like 700 muscles you know what I'm saying he looks amazing he want to fight somebody yo and I was just playing and Dave was like we was all laughing together we just all laughing he's like yeah man we gotta get a health right man like you know so it was it was something man it was like we all talked three days before we lost this brother like yo we got to get this right you know what I'm saying so I I didn't see this [ __ ] coming I'm being honest I I didn't see it no yeah man so God bless let's take let's take a moment of silence can you get everybody back there take a moment of silence yeah man oh and uh really apologize fellas nah man and you know yeah I mean so and we all lost yeah I lost two yeah the tears are warranted you know like he was a good man did he get to to know that y'all got the rights back no he knew all that okay okay it was just that we were all we was talking about 48 hours before yeah wow yeah yeah we was ready no because we already knew like and I we was ready I know for him he was ready to go yeah I know for him though it was about it was cool time yeah like I said all this [ __ ] was set up that Webster Hall [ __ ] was set up we had to Spotify [ __ ] set we was yo we was go on it dog we was on it but I think Dave knew his limitations and he was just trying to be there for us you know what I'm saying and he didn't want to let us down you know what I'm saying so I'm trying to talk him out of going to the Grammys because he was still trying to go me and them both been struggling with some health issues you know but his was way more severe than me and I'm like Smiles would call me up a tormented so he called me up like yo man I think this dude should do this man you know figure out how to let Merc just do this by himself so we got on the phone with a call and I'm like yo man this is how I feel I'm thankful for the opportunity but maybe we should just let Merce Rock and he was still adamant about trying to go and then even down to trying to make it to the Grammys he couldn't make it the day of his flight he couldn't make it yeah today was prideful but after the Grammys we were on the phone you know proud of him for holding it down like he raped and killed it [Music] held it down you know we on the phone like just ready like talking that good [ __ ] um behind even business things structured things that we knew we still needed to complete that we completed like it was gold time Nori it was cold time yeah man they [ __ ] up with it yeah it was a loss to all the hip-hop you know what I mean but I imagine this is me just me just seeing you Brothers yeah I'll talk about it and by the way thank you thank y'all for being you know open yeah open because um like I said we're pun I feel like point was my best friend right but I feel like I was naive upon me tonight upon's funeral his son was born what we got a show at the Roxy the Roxy in LA or the boxing in New York New York okay and and the night of his funeral his son was being born everybody who was pretty much at the funeral came to the Roxy held us down till he got to the show wow yo it's crazy because um you look a little crazy you look a little crazy yeah yo so what's your favorite place to perform don't tell me Dusseldorf Germany that's your favorite place in the world it's my favorite place oh they owe money for tourism [Music] it's hard to say man it's a lot we because we from the jump we was always out there we loved the tour like us and try would be together and tipping them would be like you know if two weeks in they'll be like yo we want to go home we always just want to just keep going so it's a bunch man it's you you can't like the UK is like home London is home I can't believe this is home you know Japan is dope um Okinawa okinawa's banging that's not Mainland Japan but but yeah okinawa's though um what did you say to me it's not me yeah whatever for me it became more who we touring with you know because there have been so many great places but to repeat them with different programs you know yeah rocking with you know especially with people you love and respect yeah I mean right and I never forget rocking with Nile Rogers and Sister Sledge one time no not Sister Sledge assistance that's what I'm saying our music dog our music has allowed us to rock as you said all rap programs it could be us and Lenny Kravitz it could be us and Tito Puente we did a show us Tito Puente and Regina Belle wow we've done it like our music just has just allowed us to go with any and everywhere you know what I'm saying so it's just like whether it's like he just said like we could be over here doing something with someone over here we can come back on this side and we we with Bad Bunny we like we we able to run any which way you point we can do it you know what I'm saying shows a Bad Bunny I'm just saying Coachella yeah yeah no [Music] Luis Feliciano yeah yeah brought him on your [ __ ] [ __ ] we used to plan on stage for two hours plus you know what I'm saying yeah you know yeah but actually you used today no I remember the first time I went to Europe I did 45 minutes they was like that's okay what we did I'm not sure about that yeah the Native Instruments I apologize with us traveling around the world that really helped us because um States man this hip-hop thing was ours so like you do a show in LA people show up at the House of Blues but it was just kind of normal you know what I'm saying like yes you could be rocking you see a bunch of [ __ ] talking and if you could turn me like yo stop talking [ __ ] I'm rocking where you going overseas it was like yo you don't live here this is special to us yeah so like they wanted you to give them everything you couldn't shortchange them right you know so that's that was being honest that was our school like so when we came back to the States we provided that where we made sure like yo like we do that to this day I did that Coachella some some girl didn't put a hand up or she wasn't like doing the the the pledge I told her to do like I made everyone point at her ass like yo like I can't take in this life yes you want to make this an experience so that was those are definitely definitely lessons we've learned you know what I'm saying I remember I was in Warsaw or Poland one night right and I I I show up there and they're saying CNN CNN so I'm saying to the promoter I said how long have they been saying this they said since seven o'clock so I was like they thought they think I'm late they're like no but then I look and then they're like everyone shaved their head to look like you Nori oh I mean I was like that wasn't a good idea foreign Bronx Brooklyn and we actually got to perform all over the world yeah like that [ __ ] is crazy like well you think about it like the countries that you guys been like I was sitting here with Chuck D and Chuck D said he'd been to a hundred calls oh man I don't even know 100 countries existed I was like really I think he said more than 100 to be honest he's 134. yeah I gotta say we've done probably the same yeah that's why I'm bringing it up when we're everywhere Public Enemy has yeah I've been to Kazakhstan yeah we've been we've been with uh Cypress Hill has been yeah nice T has been we've been repeated Defenders I had a whole bunch of places tonight yeah how is that like rocking the world because that's probably the only thing I miss about hip-hop is rocking the world yeah like when I'm on that world that's a blessing man like like that's the only thing I missed but other than that I like I love my space but how is it David yeah [Music] that's the best rivalry Miami Heat against the Knicks but Reggie Miller I hated him and Jordan Jordan crushed whoa [Music] are you a Knicks fan I don't I don't really watch that you don't [ __ ] with sports like that I can tell you [ __ ] with Sports basketball boxer and boxing yeah yeah you seen the um tank fight no I missed that fight you missed the tank fight he's doing Coachella yeah oh my bad yeah yeah come on that was the greatest floss ever yeah we missed the fight he was doing 50 000. 100 000 people yeah what is that we will keep rolling up [ __ ] so for people that don't know you guys have plot one plug two plug three for people that don't know describe what that what that means it was just a chant it was just um it was almost like a count like you know when people about to run and be like yo yo yo and it is about to say that so the same [ __ ] it was like plug two that that's all it was and it was just for that plug tuning was just uh a routine right it wasn't really about it being a song it was a routine he would cut impeach the president and we'll do that we would do plug tuning did you do you guys ever and I'm gonna talk to you because you're here as an emcee do you ever put yourself in that top tier category of lyricist that a lot of people put you in including myself I'm the only [ __ ] that ain't wearing my wedding band today come on bro how are you changing this stuff my wife might be mad at me I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry do you consider yourself a top-tier Lyricist in that like a like up there with the grades I mean me personally I've never I've never done that I just always said to myself I am nowhere near I'm got I'm galaxies away from the wackest [ __ ] absolutely I'm just but I've never but you are at the top tier I mean I appreciate when people say that I've just always been the person where I allow myself to get scared like when I gotta be on the record with black thought I'm like oh no this nigga's not gonna dust me like that's how I look at it and that's how you maintain that's how you're shopping if I gotta be on something with most oh [ __ ] I gotta I start and my own [ __ ] Dave he was like that he would yo I'm the person where if we had a studio session so I know if we're going to go in the studio Wednesday and do something so Sunday I'm already writing Wednesday I come with it Dave would just be sitting there listening to what I'm doing he pulls out a pad [ __ ] this [ __ ] out right there that's how he was so whatever I was trying to be or I had became is because of I was not trying to be left in the dust behind him you know so no I don't I don't think of myself like that at all I just I really respect you know and I'm humbled by whatever anyone feel how my skills are but I'm always up for improvement I listen to the Young Dudes I hear [ __ ] and I'll be like yo that's dope and it just inspires me you know what I'm saying I was in LA not too long ago status selected was doing like a release party for a kodu and I was listening to his [ __ ] there's no and I was like yeah man this is dope like it is it I'm just always a student of [ __ ] right you know always well well we know you humble but we're gonna we're gonna brag for you hey y'all one of the best groups of all [ __ ] time yep absolutely I don't even use big words with no equivocations y'all one of the best groups of all time oh thank you I make Global Music you have sustained you guys the the the fans the people you guys are the people's Champions and just in case you want to be humble we're going to tell you that to your Goddamn face yo I'm I'm sorry listen I want to go to the store can we maybe the Foot Locker I'm trying to put on what damage they're holding [ __ ] you wanna bring Diamond yes I told him to get a chair let's get let's get them to each other yes cut and let's bring them in hell yeah I need the water oh hell yeah maybe y'all know drink Champs wants to give flowers while people are here to receive them give them flowers and celebrating our Legends while they can still smell them we have partnered with what the flower to create this movement where everyone can give flowers to the Legends in their lives you can now order a custom flower box for the someone you want to show appreciation to by visiting www.wtflower.com and place your orders now man I appreciate it you know this mean more than any award that you can get on some real [ __ ] because it means that you appreciate it by your peers you appreciated by the people that you do it for and I accept my flowers I looked at you to the right and I've seen it and I said that's exactly how I feel that's right like because because New York Ben God bless me Ryan Garcia yay um I did like you but I just didn't know he I know he wasn't tank as a dog yeah like that's too much yeah that's crazy that's crazy so Diamond D tell us what's going on yo um you know the album's out the rear view the rear view you know what I mean you know I'm here today to um shoot one of the videos about the album Jordan I got with my man pause right here that's right and um just hear some support you know the family that's right hold on I'm a huge daylight fan too God damn it we all thank you bro so um you said you you're filming a video today Chris is yours right so tell us tell us tell us what this record is about um the song flying high he's just basically about you know just just just moving forward and um just staying above the [ __ ] right that's how I would call it right you know what I mean nah for real yeah I mean and um you know your man right here at Park he don't do too many features so when he blessed me with the verse you know I mean I really appreciated that you know I mean you know dude don't do too many you know appearances right so so earlier today you said that did you did I see the picture with Fat Joe right he's 13 years old with a Knicks jersey on yeah yeah you remember the starter Jack is an 84. you said you took that picture yeah my my man Troy took it but we were together yeah you know what I'm saying you know you see you see Joe you see Joe playing basketball yeah I don't think Joker play basketball yeah that's my friend he had a little game Joe this is not something I think of basketball you don't think a joke white gloves so Diamond let me ask you because that story is so famous this story is so famous uh you know them not you know um having the rights to their music and then they finally got the rights to their music where was you at when you when you found out that they got the they got their [ __ ] back uh odella yeah yes oh well I know they were you know they they was going through it with Tommy Boy you know for a while you know what I mean so you know it's artists from that era you know they they know that yo you know it's you know I think after 35 years the race reversed back to you I think it's 30 but it might be 30. but I mean only it matches is everything you know what I mean that's that's your Blood Sweat and Tears yeah so you know you should control that right you know I'm trying to get stunts blessing hip-hop back as we speak right so because it's been 30 years bigger pictures on this ship yeah yeah has it been 30 years yeah it has been 30 years they have to give it back to you right yeah yep 92. oh best kept secret Sally got a one track mind what a crazy trying to get my masters back as well God damn it man Jesus I I would never think that we would have to have this conversation like that right because I believe that hip-hop is one of the worst loans you could ever have um like they give you this money yeah which is what it is it's a bank loan yeah it's a bank loan yeah and it's a high Interest Bank Loan it's the worst big loan so have you guys had a chance to speak to Tom Silverman direct or no this it had nothing to do with him when she sold this um I spoke to him the actual day we started the boycott um that's when I spoke to him it was that morning before we went up this way that's what I spoke to and what was this conversation like I really don't want to talk about it for real yeah I really don't you know I mean I'd rather talk to you about it off camera okay no problem yeah yeah no problem I mean um for me um I forgive him now yeah moving forward because for forgiveness is about forgiving yourself yeah you know what I mean but he has he didn't he didn't want to negotiate with me when I was like you know he we had reached out to each other I don't remember because him or was me or whatever but we spoke and I was trying to buy the rights back from him Direct and it wasn't amicable it wasn't it wasn't enough yeah this was another it had to fall in the hands of someone else for it to be right right you know so that's why I picked them up then having to really talk about him you know because you're right he's not really a good person but I always knew that right you know I always know that you know I knew that from the type of business he does you know I mean here's who he is once I understood that many many years ago all I did was do what he did what he been doing to him yeah so like they and all I did was say what he said I never said anything bad about him he just said what he said all right and let everybody else decide if it was right or wrong because I already know what's wrong as [ __ ] you know what I'm saying right and at the end of the day like he always presented it it's business right right yeah right yeah yeah that's all we we wanted to take care of his business man it only got really even there get personal we don't even gotta really talk on him you know we're just blessed to be here doing what we're doing with people who want to do business um and I mean come on man let's be honest business don't necessarily always got to be fair business you just gotta once you show you no knowledge of something maybe people will deal with you a certain way you know what I'm saying hold on what you just said you said business don't always have to do business don't have to be fair don't trade to be my friend right that's the thing you know that was that was the thing that me and you when we went to CBS and when we went to CBS I'm just leaving Tommy Boy I'm just leaving all this [ __ ] I didn't want to be friends with nobody else not because I didn't want to be friends with them but because this this is a lot of investment when you when you when you sign to a label you start doing business with people you start to like them and then you don't know that they'll be traded the next day yeah they'll be in Nebraska the next day and then you I have to sit there you don't want to be friends with anyone so I don't want to be friends in the building no more like so like it's like because I started to understand business when I was young I understood friendship yeah I didn't understand business I wanted to be friends with everybody but when I got older I was like [ __ ] being friends let me get my check and that's it yeah it doesn't mean that I'm not friendly doesn't mean but what it is is I'm more of a businessman now I could still be your friend yeah imma find out if you're gonna be my friend that's where it's at because now it's just for me to own up to let me stop harboring these feelings that's my I think is going to affect the Friendship things that I think I shouldn't say that I feel is right for me the minute I feel like I say what's right for me the person who feel like I'm saying some foul [ __ ] not my friend yep it's real and we got to remember the history of this industry the music industry it's always been a racket yeah yeah a racket if it was like at the club not like the club but like the club yeah actually you like the club that's the foundation of the music industry and I'll tell people to go do your history and understand it and when you understand where it comes from yeah the evils that come from that you know we understand I mean me and dress we've talked on this and we Black Sheep yeah and we've said like yo man if if if a if a if a label was just fair Fair cats will be millionaires if they were just fair right don't gotta overextend yourself just fair right but businesses is not about being fair business about being business it's like a chess game almost what you negotiate yeah yeah what you get you know what I'm saying so just trust and it's Othello you know how we gotta move amongst the game of deception yeah so like you said like we could be young yo I know this dude yeah he's gonna come in here he's gonna want the girls You're Gonna Want the the Timbs and all that [ __ ] and they just take everything from you you know what I'm saying because they see that you want the glory of it all you know what I'm saying you want the [ __ ] you want the call you want the and you get nothing you want the Aesthetics yeah and you won't read the fine print yeah and then and a lot of times even where even with us when you were look let's make sure we have a lawyer yo they had that covered the lawyer was down with them [ __ ] yo man yeah that's what's [ __ ] up guys in cahoots the close of the deal yeah if you're not paying your lawyer straight out your pocket win or lose he's trying to get his bread off the clothes of the deal and if everybody's moving on a percentage base Yeah the more money that's on the table so if I could convince you to give up your publishing for your cat for more cash it's more money on top of my percentage as opposed to what can protect yo I don't know if y'all understanding what I'm saying bro holy spirit could really protect my client so my client can have longevity and I can have as a lawyer longevity with my damn client but nobody ever really saw it like that you know what I'm saying first of all when we came in they didn't expect this [ __ ] to even make it around the block yeah I'm saying so yeah you know we was projected sales at somewhere like what 50 000 units three feet high and Rising that's right so you know but what the beauty I could say in the entire relationship we had no creative holes you know you know most artists got the label got in the way of the records they made you know Tommy Boy didn't get in the way of that how they did get in the way if they wasn't feeling something like naming your album De La Soul is dead they'll pull back on the budget of promoting you know what I'm saying but you know we do what we did to supersede to be us you know what I'm saying like I said man and I'm sorry to cut you but sorry it ain't about harboring that dude I mean like it's not oh [ __ ] but um it's really not man it's just about we are where we are not even just him a systematic yeah no it is systemic we're not the same thing we're another tire with a different rim and even some of these label execs they they not they don't even know what it is because it's it's something that's following it's been ongoing forever it seems like this is a lawyer might even tell his client hey this is what it is but you're dealing with oftentimes young artists like I just want to get the deal yeah you know but but if you look back if you really look at it you're still exploiting a young mind you know what I'm saying it's all circumstantial it's where you are in your life you know what I'm saying if you just work in McDonald's or hustling on the Block that deal it's a life changer right yeah you just dog if you just expect things to grow that's all of us is dumb because we all kind of knew that it wasn't the right thing to do but we like yo we're going to fix it the next album right right yeah you always do you feel like you could renegotiate it in a sense and which is in my case we had component Noriega and then um Capone went to jail I was forced to do a solo album I wasn't going to be a solo yeah you know what I'm saying so I was forcing through it and it worked out for me in the long run but if I had that that happened I would have been signing this component of Noriega for Life yeah for all right I'm sorry I did not read that [ __ ] at all were you on penalty penalty yes what was it like over there with Ian um me and Neil always knew he's still cool yeah we're still cool to this day [Music] um he's he's probably the cheapest person I ever met but he's also fought for me yeah because when I it was it was a time where you had to have a height Williams video or you not going Platinum right and I needed a height Williams video and I remember Tommy would never do a hyper yeah I did I got it I got that bunch of the crack so um and I went and I remember this I remember this like it was yesterday hi Williams calls me a ghost oh book a room at the Trump so I go all right this is the time where Trump was not racist so he wasn't a politician yeah he wasn't a politician so hike Williams just like the rich guy he was at the time and he is still probably he said book of rumor to Trump so I didn't know what to do I just booked a room at the trumps he comes shows up he says yo I I let's call Roy Jones and I say it's called Roy Jones he's like yo I think Rory Jones needs to be in your video he needs to be boxing in your video so I was like all right cool I've never called Rose James before in my life so Paul and Roy Jones this is at the Trump Hotel so Roy Jones Goes what y'all ain't gotta fake my fight cause he's like yo pipe he's like yo I want to fake a fight like you know he's like this is how this is how that's how hot Roy was at the time boy it was like you ain't gonna fake a fight I gotta fight in two weeks yeah I can come and film it we was like but in my mind I'm like what if he lose it's like I don't put footage in him lose it like I didn't know what and Rory was that confident oh yeah yeah he said no he's a man what are you doing and he wasn't he went he still is and um oh man he showed out that night we this first time HBO let cameras in that wasn't HBO cameras and Rory fought for me so Roy Jones wherever you I owe you brother you cannot hurt Roy Jones will not you better not Indio I love hip-hop man yeah man Hip-Hop Hip-Hop has been good to us we've obviously been great to me yeah man like even in talking quite honestly since we talking about it even with Tommy Boy man yo Monica Lynch man she helped us down over there yeah she was a Shining Light over there yep and there's a lot of other great people over there that did did ride buys you know what I'm saying so like honestly like even Tom was once the business was done he had some dope ideas you know what I'm saying like yeah you know like as of nowhere yeah you know like there was a lot of great times you know we just grew up man and we just grew up and was like yo man this is what it is this is unfair mind you we had already been fighting to get what we need to get he got hold of it he got everything back we obviously all know that it can be said that Tom got everything back to just flip it right he got his he sold it yeah yeah he you know he lost it because he had owed money to them and he had to pay it back a certain amount of time it came out that he didn't pay it back in a certain amount of time so Warner Brothers took the label wow so that's why a little of us having bionics out around the time and all of that you know my man my only great with him man is that he wasn't the one to come sit us down and tell us this transition that was happening yeah he actually when I went to Warner you mean yeah well before it was about to go I mean whatever wait wait we said it again so I'm sorry before whatever went down we actually resigned with once we was doing these triple albums we were finished we actually was resigning with him but unfortunately finding out that when he lost the label when we found out that okay so the label's gonna go to Warner we're not going to be in a weird system any any layer congratulations House of Pain or whatever and that's what started happening Sylvia Rome wanted us on Electra we was going to Elektra she wanted Timberland to do to do the whole album we was like we don't want that right right we don't mind a few tracks we just don't want to do the whole album and then certain money we wanted was like if we sit down so we I knew Sylvia do my brother Renee McLean Corey Smith who's managers Newark she was like look man Corey Smith who manages Dave Chappelle yeah so he was like that quality yeah we were just like she was just like look I just want y'all to be happy with whatever go down y'all don't gotta come here so we didn't wind up going there didn't look like Atlantic wanted us to go over there so we wound up just telling Warner like yo we just want out right they was cool they let us go we just want to just be able to go out and do our own thing okay so I mean you know it's just being young and even being older sometimes you just don't know what's going on in the business side of things because it's not for you to know even when from their standpoint you know it's their intention and once you get hold of learning your contracts and you're into having a family and personal life you you still end up making some decisions that you feel you need to protect your foundation you know your legacy it's a certain sacrifices you make in because of this other two people in the group y'all think about let alone the family you know just built you know what I'm saying and that's time you know for me I felt like yeah we making certain compromises and sacrifices just to keep this thing we built going you know and being a part of this whole thing called hip-hop that actually feeds our families man you know what I mean right you know so but yeah times changed things moved along he lost the catalog we figured out how to still keep going wow and not just still like in learning the business from the time when you feel like you stuck up until that moment you learn a lot man you know you can't afford a person for learning so much to know where they can figure out not how to strategize where you got where they got their bargaining power let me ask you because when he lost the catalog and got it back it went to Warner did he get it back he got it back he got it back years later years later yeah yeah what he paid for it I don't know how he got it even Warners how did we were trying to get it even trying to get it we was just trying to get them to put it up yeah we were still lacking knowledge in business just wanting to catalog up and maybe when you say up for sale or up for saving yeah because you remember like okay like y'all download we must have downloaded so you could get the royalties off of it so even at that point Rhino Warner was allowing Rhino to work out stuff we did the live from tramps album whatever but then when wait a minute this infraction as mace would say is coming in is you know you always you owe you didn't you didn't clear pothos in my lawn you didn't clear this sample so that's where we want to shelf everything so we was trying to work it out with them at one point Leo Cohen was over there Leo was was our ex manager you know we were managed by Rush management which is Russell Simmons he tried to work it out but then at one point and then you're gonna end up leaving he went up leaving and the new people come in so it was all that type of stuff going on man it was just a long period of us trying to put it up we had I don't really say their names but we had like a streaming company at one point was like yo we'll pay for everything we'll fix everything allow us to fix everything we'll pay for everything we tow Warners like yo this streaming company will pay for everything fix everything they still wouldn't bite at that point I felt like somebody was waiting for him to get it together to get it back yeah for him he came reached out to us he had got it he got everything back but what I'm just trying to say in hindsight he was getting everything back just to flip it right you just to sell it he didn't care about them who knows who knows because I honestly when he was trying to get us to do it it seemed like he was looking to put it put it all out he wanted to pull it all out but when he sent everybody these generic emails that kind of reverted back to contracts that were like 88 89 that we weren't even doing with him in 2000 you know what I mean wow it was yeah when y'all seen it all we posted it yeah you know it was uh interesting but it was him like I said man Honestly though do you guys think it was all worth it it was what was it all worth it it definitely was worth it he learned so much yeah I thank God for real dog you know this is an extreme blessing this is like don't happen in a million years I know what we went through even with each other yeah where we almost caved into that [ __ ] [ __ ] you know what I'm saying so you know it's truly a blessing from God and I'm gonna give it all a Grace to God for real straight up I think we can make this noise cigar yeah yeah nah man I'm gonna be honest man like um it's a beautiful it's a beautiful and it's not the ending I don't want to say this is the ending because I feel like you guys got a whole nother Legacy rebirth yeah and the thing about it is it's not like we playing football it's not like we playing boxing we can do this [ __ ] for the rest of our life yeah going yeah so I would love to hear that new day live album how about being a part of it come on [Music] because y'all truly deserve it man like I can't see you know anybody deserve it more than you guys like you know what I mean you guys have been loyal to hip-hop you gave us your whole life um like I don't remember not hearing a day last Soul attractive like yeah I don't remember not to hear so what y'all did which I contributed is warranted it's it's I wanted to there's not it is noticed yeah you guys are really one of the great greatest groups of all time and the fact that you got your rights back really really is a beautiful story man it really truly is because you guys deserve it and it's a big hit to everybody yeah you guys deserve that thank you bro appreciate it I'm happy for y'all man y'all happy for your family I wish you know God bless um Dave got to see yeah you know more of it um how much of for a new daylight project how much of Dave's vocals would be involved in it I mean there's a bunch of stuff I've been trying to uh get everything from his crib this stuff there but a lot but yeah I'm not pushing anything if it don't work it don't work I mean sometimes we got to realize the reason why certain things were never put to light because they they weren't of the quality of what the person wanted right I really do feel that people sometimes need to realize that um there's a lot of great producers a lot of great MCS who we've lost and a lot of times people just start bastardizing their shares throwing it up putting this out and sometimes some of that [ __ ] wasn't meant to come out for a reason so I mean it's the same with Dave's vocals there's a bunch of stuff that I know he would just do when he when he felt the ghosts and wrote and if it works it works if it don't it don't man you know what I'm saying we ain't gonna Force anything you know what I'm saying yeah I respect that does does um you don't have the answers if you don't want to but moving on the Dayla as a group as a brand does his family contr are they a part of that yeah yeah definitely for sure definitely for sure yeah no question yeah because I know that gets complicated with people and it creates them yeah weirdness I mean it's crazy because I can say it we literally had put together the contracts to make sure that was right four days before this [ __ ] left wow wow literally and like like sometimes like I see like Havoc right fabric will will go out and he'll call it mob deep but he'll be he'll be DJ Las it'll be uh rapanoid did y'all still say they lost soul it's daylight man and at the end of the day man I I just know a lot of a lot of our brothers they miss him so like when when most comes up and like yo man I'm down the rock she Rock You Know Thor to hit me like black thought like yo man [Music] that aspect is there but you know I call it the Super Friends yeah when we get together because everybody deliver their Spirit man and they make it Daylight for them yeah and that's a testament to to the Legacy now Diamond D when are we getting d-i-t-c on drink Champs come on the whole yeah slim Joe now yeah I want the whole deal stories yes oh man that yeah I saw him sitting at the White House yo you need to be sitting at this table you've seen Kamala looking at him look at my boyfriend y'all got the vice president of the White House ever hip-hop that was me I don't think I'm ever going to get invited either I think my invite is broken Champs [Music] like that's how you know when a dude is kind of [ __ ] up when you start you you started you appreciating drunk you're like man I could have missed Trump [Applause] something to say that we can't find no younger people in this that want to be in the politics check something new into the political didn't even take a mug shot who he got arrested without a mug shot he told them if y'all give me my mug shot I'm making money off a [ __ ] so they wouldn't take his [ __ ] bro I can believe that yeah give me my he said I want my mug shot nah and they said you know what they did a mug shot no no mugshots somewhere that thing ain't getting fingerprinted nothing is that the gangsters yeah he got processed but he got process he had to get fingers Mike Tyson has a mug shot everybody has a mug shot Jackie Jackson some presidential like all right we're gonna put your [ __ ] out because he threatened him he said I'm going to make money over there [Music] I ain't gonna lie he started making me like him man you've been liking them man I did kinda I didn't like the racist [ __ ] I didn't like the going at I don't like I don't like anybody racist like but but there's certain [ __ ] that I do a lot of my friends was rich when Trump was in office oh man stay outside man I'm sorry look he's looking at me like leave sleepy Joe alone I'm sorry I'm sorry you don't do politics they ain't inviting us to the White House you gotta invited to the warehouse we Obama yeah we did the Obama leaving party that was awesome yeah that was that was hard you got to meet Michelle yeah both of them yeah both of them yeah they seem like they match though yeah mad cool yeah he dropped me up everything yeah wait he dropped all three of us yeah so like you know we wound up doing business because Michelle Obama want to hear the business you know what I'm saying so we doing the rhyme like I almost messed up because I'm looking and she know the words I was like yo this is crazy history that's dope that is definitely it's really dope really dope we ain't never getting invited away you never know you never know if you keep shouting them out he might be like yo let's do three chairs in the White House I ain't gonna lie to you [Applause] foreign but no but now the new business model is licensing your voice so that they can use it because they're gonna be using it anyways really yeah people are making deals that every time it gets used they get 50 of the record or some royalty rate off of their voice sounds super dangerous but but what other choice it starts to get weird now yeah yeah I heard biggie rapping prodigies verse yeah doing Easy E records yeah I saw uh Michael Jackson doing uh oh yeah it's it's scary Michael Jackson doing yeah it's Michael Jackson that [ __ ] is so crazy [Music] [ __ ] I heard the whole [ __ ] yeah so what does this take us what is this AI [ __ ] I don't know creating art like literally just got me the bad side every time I smoke one and think about it fake confessions they could call your kids and be like Daddy open the doors he just did that they just showed how uh they're doing something where um older people like their children are calling them like yo moment but it's like yes AI faking [ __ ] yes so it's not being used for like anything of like use man yeah by the way I noticed y'all ate that whole cake y'all ain't offer us nothing over here that was the ultimate fat boy [ __ ] right here not even one piece wow like we like cake too [ __ ] yeah that was funny as hell man I mean it just even now I I feel like even some real hip-hop [ __ ] that hey Ash it could be lazy like you could turn around and be like damn I got eight records to write to and you can get to say yeah [ __ ] to write for you you know what I'm saying that [ __ ] wait for it could write scripts you can write a book yeah you can write it could write a program [ __ ] check it out I see the biggie verse that [ __ ] hurt me so that's that's the smallest that's why I'm like it's kind of dangerous because yeah it clones people's voices that's what it is to where it can make up a whole [ __ ] crime scene if anything wow why are you looking at it like that yeah I heard you just say that I didn't look at it like that holy moly Walk Alone yeah it's uh um hello I got that point between the AI everybody for ransom yeah right cloning somebody's voice what is that yeah I haven't met Bill Cosby nah never um we would just hit you know most obviously work with them um Yasin Yasin Bay most deaf but Mysteries most was like a sidekick holy [ __ ] yeah acting yeah the resume is wild man yeah most most I believed him as a dog I was gonna go see him yeah you can see them in the HBO [ __ ] he was a doctor I believe yeah I believe them but earlier I said that I was asked about African bambaata right yeah right and African my brother has some very serious allegations against them yeah and I could see certain people hold him down yeah and I could also see certain people who just not want to talk about it period yeah what what is that type of stance for all three of y'all brothers when you say because this man did do a lot of great things for hip-hop but those allegations are kind of crazy yeah so what do you guys think I toured with bam I never experienced no kind of vibe like that whatsoever you know for the most part what's the whole deal to me is what I learned you know from watching as a kid so I still hold them in high regard of all the tenements of Peace unity love and having fun you know I mean you know everything we actually adopted from the Zulu Nation you know and so I don't know any of that other stuff yeah the [ __ ] is disturbing yeah you know yes um I am concerned for him his family and for the victims you know what I'm saying so I respect that you know yeah that's where it's at uh what he said yes I respect that yeah it's a touchy situation yeah you know um is this a touchy situation it really it really is you know what I'm saying but you know over this entertainment we all still real people man and you know people live lives and some you know I I remember a quote from Hillary Clinton every family has a dysfunctions you know what I'm saying is that she got it yeah yeah it's real [ __ ] you know so man wow you know what is going on you know what I'm saying right so yeah right because we received you know um I leave it alone let's move on but um I want to go into depth about that wreck here um where was you at when you when y'all wrote that record totally mentally we didn't give a we didn't care yeah like was it just [ __ ] around put together this album that was what it needed to be we thought it was a great album Tommy Boy was like they loved it they loved everything they loved the fact that we could pull from this song called I know and put you know Steely Dan in it they love how we could put from this song say no go and take all the notes but also I'm sorry to cut you but they loved all of that without them wanting to try to look into clearing the samples I'm just saying they yeah they appreciated the same appreciate it they loved it all but then they came to us like yo we need something to jump off with like we need like something that's going to be the kind of the megaphone to bring people to the party and so they said they needed a single he always wanted to do something off mace he wanted to do something off uh the knee deep record Funkadelic record I just felt like it was such a record that was so amazing us touching that what are we going to be able to do today right so when when him and Paul are mainly may start putting the [ __ ] together Dave was just on some clown [ __ ] with it he was like yo man [ __ ] it so yo we're gonna um we're gonna take this song from Jungle Brothers called Black is Black we're gonna mimic their rhyme style so that drinking all these drinks I'm not sure so I can drink dog yeah um the Black is Black record on Jungle Brothers Straight Out The Jungle album was like in a Maverick cut today people so we we just took that right mirror mirror on the wall wow so he was like [ __ ] it we just did something so easy wrote those Rhymes real quick here and God was like yeah [ __ ] we're gonna make this [ __ ] right so you know so basically this was your throwaway and kitchen was on the song Black is Black yeah so that's where he comes in in his little pot the kids have say Black is Black yeah we just took it from Black is Black we just took that rhyme style from Jungle Brothers crazy yeah it was just a throw away it was no thought put into that no it wasn't easy [Applause] but I'm saying you had already turned in the album that oh you gave him the basically the album they heard everything we had did and they needed a single so we was like all right and aesthetically it was more so at that time for black radio right yeah no it was called black radius straight up we even got a billboard thing says uh yeah black yeah black music yeah yeah I'm telling you yeah so he's like so that was like pretty much the second to last song that was done wow yeah the last song was uh living in a full-time era yeah wow and then aesthetically the look that was the video and you guys that was always there like you guys already had thought that through was it there was no thought to it I'm being honest man like in us giving a throwaway it had us giving who we were as people and how we was caring about [ __ ] right so once we saw that it was and it was crazy I remember when when the album came out and that [ __ ] came out and [Music] like yo this [ __ ] is Yo Yo I think this [ __ ] is about to go like just me myself all right so it just kind of like the visuals just kind of was easy to fall into you know what I'm saying because I always say that man it's like I'm being honest and now he's just right here with me like [ __ ] wasn't no punk [ __ ] like that video was a video like we weren't those type of dudes we came from a place where you know you could be different but [ __ ] knew you had hands you know you could sell drugs but you could be into the coolest [ __ ] ever or the the the the you know the punk rock [ __ ] who who knows like that's one thing about Long Island like we hung out with the the white kids who did The Keg parties and we brought them together parties you know so upside down you never pulled it off so you know that's what it was I mean like it did work it just kind of meshed into this thing like yeah man we can make this about individualism and you know being confident in who you are as a person and you know but we were like the dudes who loved the most hardest [ __ ] ever we you know we we could send you any kuji rap record when this dude was sitting here putting out his first joints we knew all them joints like Strong City joints like we loved hip-hop you know what I'm saying but we had no problem with expressing ourselves the way we chose to express ourselves because that's that's unique about y'all as well and if y'all very creative when it comes to them videos like I don't think not one of y'all videos looked at like another one of y'all videos let me tell you this I don't know who I'm talking from my standpoint okay I was the dude who wanted simple videos I want like yo there wasn't one EPMD video that missed like I'm being honest I think that every day live video was a that's your preference yeah like I just thought like we missed it like maybe ego tripping but no just being me being honest every video like like when try was do videos I'd be like oh [ __ ] these [ __ ] nailed it videos like but that's how I feel about y'all every time the thing with us the thing with us is that the director would be so tired of doing the NWA videos with all the [ __ ] that when daylight came up they could be more creative too creative right and we'd be like oh man come on man yeah for real holy [ __ ] for real dog opposite like for real like I felt like yeah that break is on video it was like what the [ __ ] is this what video you said to break a Dawn video where we I love that [ __ ] yo it was just but you know it's funny the hip-hop needed that you probably get it I need that but I did not needed that this is crazy Rhymes I always thought that you guys must have had incredible like Busters like you guys have busted to me at all the dopest videos and to hear you say that that's because you're a perfectionist though nah I mean oh yeah like I said I mean I would and I hope I don't want to disrespect any of the directors I mean like when we did ring ring ring like yeah like but I'm just trying to say like I just felt like it didn't always have to be sold just be I don't know if I said a certain verse the visual could match it you had any input we had but I don't know man you gotta really didn't care as much oh did you just like the more simplified like one of my favorite videos is the first protect your neck video I was just that I think it was black and white and it was just raw and gritty that was Ill yeah I think at that time being young willing to take someone's lead and that expertise of what they do you know and just seeing what they come with you know a lot of times if we didn't like [ __ ] we didn't say it you know yeah sure that would be the dangerous part we wouldn't say it you know so and by no means I'm trying to say I hated our videos but I just felt like I never really walked away a lot of times you're like yo we nailed that [ __ ] and what directors you guys work with Diane Martel [ __ ] I can't even [ __ ] Dave Mays Mark romantic kid um ring ring ring y'all got the yeah I mean we they got A-list directly no we did you know say no go all that [ __ ] bro they probably went all out for you guys I mean buddy was something because it was just a Vibe I mean that was his family and we just had fun shooting buddy you know what I'm saying but I don't know man so what is your favorite video that you ever filmed for me it'd be oh I would have to agree yeah I would have to agree with you who was The Wizard of Oz video it looked like you guys were having fun on that we got a lot of fun and that's one thing about us as a group two we was always willing and had no problem with having people showcase themselves not worrying about us because that was one thing that even people that tell me what was saying it was like yo you know that this video is showcasing Red Man and raw Digga like Chappelle like you know because y'all faces is covered so y'all fans or these new fans may not really see y'all but we didn't care we played into the artists yeah that was us always you know what I'm saying but Sally had a one-track mind the way this [ __ ] sat in did his video like I was like can't we do a [ __ ] video like like writing the projects we rarely did [ __ ] like that you know what I'm saying [ __ ] high no video and Bubbles floating around it was like all right that's what's crazy is is I'm sitting around thinking y'all being the most creative and to me I'm I'm still standing by that I'm not letting you change my mind I think y'all videos was hard I would look at y'all videos and be like I want a video like that I wanted to be creative like that so the fact that you're sitting there but I know you're a perfectionist I could I could tell yeah like I said it was just that the the directors was just so happy to do something with us because they felt like this could be something that can get me away from what I'm normally doing yeah you know what I'm saying since I was a dope video that was a dope video oh yeah it was dope and we were supposed to actually with Nick quested we were supposed to do the business I don't know what happened we just never pick up my boy Nick questions you you know Nick question was the guy that was following around the dudes that um crushed the right house that crashed the right house oh sure he was the dude that was filmed it yes he went undercover wow and filmed it here's a whole documentary that's about to drop of him filming the guys who stormed the White House oh [ __ ] holy [ __ ] a maniac that's ill I can believe it because the the joint on Stakes is High where the the country dude is like rap some something just a bunch of [ __ ] talking all right that was something he had filmed oh [ __ ] like [ __ ] always going to cover with some [ __ ] my first um two videos he did my LA and he did two and Y next question so wherever you got in that question you know I learned with love for you man but the fact that he went in undercover for us as a people like he's hip-hop like Nick is not racist at all yeah so he had to go in front Like A Nazi right he had to act like a Nazi to get down with him he filmed the whole [ __ ] he has the whole [ __ ] this [ __ ] is of me I didn't see it obviously yeah to the side he filmed this [ __ ] and um so he has this whole documentary because Nick is crazy so um but by the way I appreciate that me I appreciate it uh I always say that to my friend he's over there um if you if you have white privilege use your white privilege for your friend for your friends for your friends if you have it yeah to me he paid back hip-hop everything that hip-hop has done for him by him going undercover that's dope and filming the Magnum by the way which I want to see yeah straight up but let me just tell y'all man I really appreciate you Brothers taking the time out to come see us to come chop it up we appreciate y'all having us yeah man yes man I love the show man thank you it's your time to give you your flowers okay and it's it really is because hip-hop has saved my life literally I had six months when I came home from jail at six months to get a job and if I didn't get a job I would have went right back to jail and you know what job I got is hip hop man that's dope [Music] I literally went to McDonald's and they told me no I would have worked at McDonald's I was willing to work at McDonald's and they told me no you're a felon it's beautiful I mean like Premiere had told me something like kind of similar with uh Malachi you know like from Groupon yeah you know and Hip-Hop it was just like the judge was like yo he can go away and they was really speaking on behalf of him and they're having them say like yo so why don't you have him do what y'all doing you know what I'm saying like wow it's just dope how hip-hop has placed people in the fabric of a culture you know and save their lives with it you know what I'm saying right that's that's everything man look how many countries you was naming just just now like people from the Bronx Long Island you know Queens of dog Germany and [ __ ] like that you know what now we are yes yes because this is a beautiful thing yeah it really is man I really wanted to give you all the flowers out I found out too late that Diamond D was coming here because we would have had you get your flowers but we want to get your flowers with ditc where everybody please we would love y'all put it together please I want to give Showbiz flowers so bad but forgive you your flowers so bad um because this is truly with me and efn want to do is in this game if after you have 10 years they say that you're washed them yeah and this is only hip-hop yeah they don't do that in Rolling Stones they don't do that in rock and roll they say that you're seasoned yeah when you have 10 years or 15 years or 20 years or more yeah so I want to stop this in hip-hop that's the reason why we created this show is we want people that is seasoned as veterans yeah to have their flowers you stopped it already yes thank you bro you truly you guys truly really everyone whose has 15 years or more in this game we have to Salute You Brothers like we have to like I love the fact that um Chuck D is um what is it his his thing now called hip-hop Alliance hip-hop alliance with he's actually fighting for us to get medical right yeah right Curtis blow I [ __ ] love that I want to support it so much I want to I want to donate I want to do whatever because hip-hop has to be taken care of we have to take care of each other right right otherwise you know it's kind of like it's kind of like whatever like you know I mean because um it's just like I say with Fat Joe me and Fat Joe haven't seen each other like six months he's been busy I've been busy doesn't I don't have to I don't have to speak to him all the time my love for him is always there yeah that's the same thing what we have to do with hip-hop is like sometimes we we can't participate but the Love Has to always be there yeah and with you guys I seen that like I told you I literally tears came on my eyes seeing y'all celebrate seeing y'all count that down I was like yo I swear to God I was like I wanted to be this man I was like oh [ __ ] like like I was like yo I really wanted to rewind right after we were both like I was like the man I wish I would if I would have knew an hour ahead I would I don't know how I would have got there but I wanted to celebrate that moment but this moment is also just as important because I wanted to give you a flower to your face and tell y'all how important y'all are to hip-hop how much that y'all contributed and how much we appreciate it thank you bro yo man for real man you know what's crazy I'm gonna be honest and I'm I'm sorry Dave is here right now without question I really want me yeah absolutely yeah [Applause] and Tommy Boy and we was like he was like yo dog this [ __ ] got something he's good at this [ __ ] yes I'm being honest I feel him here in this room don't mean to be spiritual like you know that's crazy it's true I really do like like um like when my father passed away I became spiritual and I started to realize that maybe I didn't lose him I lost him in the physical form but I didn't lose him and it'd be times and I'm telling you yeah Dave is in this room right now without question we we love you uh we miss you brother we're gonna hold you down De La Soul Man forever man we we that is forever man they lost soul thank you man yeah I really appreciate it we did a straight three hours man and you know what again hip-hop has to celebrate hip-hop another coach is not going to celebrate us no right Jazz ain't going bigger nope rock and roll ain't gonna pick us up nah heavy metal ain't gonna pick us up so we don't big each other up and tell each other how great you are especially when you are great appreciate you there's people that's not great and they get bigged up but y'all brothers are great thank you bro I want to say rest in peace Dave thank you man rest in peace you know um daylight soul forever yeah man I want y'all to know that y'all appreciate it we love y'all thank you we're gonna hold y'all down forever [Music] by the way I'm being honest you better not keep that down because I'ma still there myself drink Champs is a dream foreign

Channel: REVOLT

Views: 288,102

Keywords: music industry, business, catalog, streaming, royalties, negotiations, contracts, legacy, hip hop, De La Soul, Drink Champs, Warner, Leroy Cohen, Mase, Tramps, blessings, rebirth, God.

Id: DaIrsMM2oqY

Length: 162min 32sec (9752 seconds)

Published: Sat Jun 10 2023