Davos 2015 - The Future of Military

a very good afternoon to everyone and welcome to a historic panel and this is historic because to the best of our knowledge dedicated panel on the future of militaries has never ever taken place in the World Economic Forum so you'll present that creation first but not the last you will have seen from the program that we put much more emphasis this year on geopolitics international security and the phenomenon of geo economics which is the intersection between global political change and global economic change that's no coincidence because we have just lived through a year that many has described as the geopolitical and news horribilis we have seen both an exacerbation of problems related to asymmetric threats like the growth of the Islamic state in in the Middle East but we also see in the return of strategic competition between key players for instance over the conflict in Ukraine just remind the audience that exactly a year ago when we were ending Davos there were political troubles in Ukraine but no fighting so all of that has happened over the last year and likewise in many parts of the world we're seeing a world that is more conflictual than it has been in a long time so that's a major theme in many panels and I see many people who've attended other panels in the same vein now this panel is on the future of militaries so it's on the implication of these broader geopolitical security trends on the military profession and on military choices and military leadership and on the leadership of those interested with overseeing how militaries are run prepared trained how investments are made and that's the part of it which is innovative to the World Economic Forum but so far the impression has been that this is an area in which there's a lot of interest in many of our communities because these things intersect with each other in completely new ways we have a remarkable panel here this afternoon we have people with I've experienced from conflict some of them ongoing in their own country to start with the deputy prime minister of Iraq mr. rush Chavez who has the distinguished political career in Iraq but he was also being commander of the Peshmerga and the Peshmerga are among those around the front line in the battle against is on the ground others are in the air they are on the ground in the battle against Islamic states we have Minister pins on bueno they Juan Carlos Prince John Boehner who is Minister of National Defence of Colombia another country who hopefully is on its way out of internal military conflict that has been going on for I guess long before you were born not only because you're a young man because because the conflict has been going on for a long time very look very much forward to hear your perspectives professor Joe Nye renowned the thinker on hard securities of ticket no sir hard powers soft power and smart power but also somebody with a background from military leadership percy has been assistant secretary of defense in the US during the clinton administration ambassador above commissioner who again long distinguished career in german diplomacy now head of the Munich Security Conference which is upcoming in a couple of weeks and Vice Admiral kid who is assistant to the chairman or joint chief of staff and represent the American military has also been here with secretary Kerry and we very much appreciate that you were able to stay on and be with us in this panel so that's the cost and I would like to start maybe with the Deputy Prime Minister also because you are as we said that battle from what lessons for the future of the militaries and the present of course in your case are you drawing from what's going on right now in the battle of is that the rest of us would like to learn something about well first of all I have to speak frankly about the situation in Iraq certainly we we are facing many challenges the most important challenges are tackling the the terrorism the fight which is going on in Iraq the humanitarian problems which we had we had to deal with a huge number of refugees almost two million people inside the Iraq some of them are from Syrian other internal people from the areas of Mosul Tikrit amber Samara the Sunni regions especially and beside the other challenges which are mainly the heritage of the previous dictator dictator regime of Saddam Hussein beside all of that the main problem in Iraq now is the oil prices because of the low oil prices the budget of the of the the Iraqi budget is lowered to mostly about 60 percent now we have to deal with what forty percent of the revenues which were awaited for for this year so this means in general that era to tackle the terrorism very effectively needs economic help this is one of the main realities in Iraq secondly the Iraqi security forces especially after the collapse in June 2014 in Mosul the Iraqi army and the police for police forces all they need to be reorganized from the beginning reorient it equipped their main duty is to be to be successful to gain victory against the against the terrorists I don't want to call them the Islamic state because they are not as Islamic state they are terrorists and the militias who are working and supporting the Iraqi government in this moment they have also to be controlled through the governmental institutions and put in line with the benefit of the country in the direction of helping to achieve reconciliation and mutual understanding among the component of the Iraqi community we said all of that the Iraqi security institution they have to cooperate much much better with the Peshmerga forces who are fighting in the north and at the same time they have to coordinate with the Alliance or the coalition forces and take benefit from the opportunity that there are a lot of people who are trying to helping to help them and train them and kudos and the Peshmerga are fighting very severely but they are effective it is not an exaggeration if I say the only force who have regained some some victory against - people against the terrorists has broken their magic that they are undefeatable they are visible and the Peshmerga has approved that the purveyor now is very close to Mosul but alone they cannot enter enter Mosul because of many reasons first of all is an urban center has to be studied very carefully how to deal with the problem of such a large city how to deal with the such a population center and at the same time muscle is the center of the Sunni Arab people and this might when the Peshmerga alone tries to to attack us all or try to to free mousseline alone without the the cooperation of the Arab Sunnis and the without the cooperation of the Iraqi armies this is almost an impossible beside all of that the Peshmerga they are still not very good equipped they have some help these are some weapon survey munition but if you really want to tackle the terrorism you need a real army in the region and the Peshmerga a real reliable force if the international community and Iraqi government itself tries to organize the Peshmerga as a real symmetric little force then they can be a force which can tackle the terrorism in Iraq even in Syria and for a long period of time thank you thank you very much for bringing yourself today to some very harsh military realities in your region let's go to appear mr. Pierson well no I we talked a little bit yesterday and we talked about the the challenges related to dealing with the present conflict while at the same time planning for the new year and the more long-term future share some of those thoughts with us please well first I would like to comment that if you look at the context of Colombia 15 years ago for many experts the country was almost called a failed state and I think the the the most important institutions that really helped contribute to turn around the country was precisely Armed Forces our armed forces were built up in a way that were able to start protecting the people recovering territorial control fighting crime the source of violence like drug trafficking kidnapping and other kinds of crime and with a very strong Corporation a but I would say at the same time very low cost cooperation from the US as compared to what they have done in other parts but it really create the possibility to create environment that in which where we are right now when we did all that build up what we wanted was at the end to bring peace to the common people what we have now is a process in which the consequence of our military and police successes and the degrading of terrorist organizations have allowed President Santos to lead the idea of a peace process that is credible that hopefully is visible and in which we're moving forward that puts me on this discussion on the future of the military and in our case our police because in the common cases in the same shop of the Ministry of Defense so we have been planning in three different avenues that somehow have been you know being planning parallel but they are overlapping already because of the way vents are happening so the first line of thought was how do we plan for the present how do we push enough first the terrorist groups and their source of funding to put them in a position that they cannot have a different alternative than going into a negotiating process that's where we are we haven't finished so we need to keep the pace we need to keep the success and we need to keep specially giving confidence to the people and to investors that have come to the country that have turned around the economy that have created jobs in order to really move forward so that's our our first effort second most of the Colombian people is asking these days not anymore for protection against a war which is now happening yes in nine percent of the of the total territory as compared to 50 percent 15 years ago but people is asking now for the same things people will ask in any city of the world street crime protection I mean they want to feel secure so we have been able in this initiative of the present to launch a street crime or what we call citizen security policy in order to strengthen the National Police strengthen security tools technology cameras and other capabilities even the Attorney General Office to really offer the people now this new level of security that they are asking then we have a second line of planning so it's what we call transition the question is every sign a peace agreement and we keep pushing for that and that's the national strategy as we speak what is important is that the day after we really have a plan that guarantees a very orderly process of demonization disarmament reintegration and the same time tackling other issues like even the security of those who are demoralizing and other types of efforts related we create a joint command led by a four-star general that is dedicated with an interagency and as I said joint effort with the old services to plan on this and to be part even of the ending phase of the negotiation as long as we're able to get there so I think that's another important signal and finally we have a third line of planning she's thinking for the future how are gonna shape the Armed Forces for for what comes next so first of all we have to look at this on on two visions one our internal issues and second how can we contribute to peace and stability in a region or in the world as a major interest so when we think internally the first challenge we'll have is to tackle those crimes that will still continue beyond the peace process I mean drug trafficking criminal mining extortion will just not vanish in my continued there so we will have to guarantee that we have the National Police and the Armed Forces that can tackle that depending on the regions depending on how we do things second there is a major issue for a country like Colombia Colombia and in general terms Latin America particularly and in countries Brazil we are very well endowed with natural resources which sort of water and with biodiversity in general terms those three things might appear one of the things that are more valuable if you think 50 years from now starting even now so we have to plan our forces to become more environmentally friendly if I can put it that way and to really be close to these national endowment that is very important for our future and certainly for the future of our people then strengthening national police that is critical you know that's what we see for the future we were able to get here the only thing we cannot do is weaken the Armed Forces weaken the national police on the country is strengthening these capabilities considering budgetary constraints but it's strengthening these capabilities what will offer that sustainability of peace certainly border control I mean we have been for a long time not providing that kind of border control and that has allowed for smuggling weapons drug trafficking and other situations so we have to look how to do that and finally is our international approach what you see in our case is that we never wanted the experience we have but we now have it you know and suddenly when we come to these international discussions appears that one of the most important challenges everywhere is facing is what you might call evil or warfare or asymmetric threats well that's what we learned to to do somehow so that experience is already being offered to the world by different ways first we have been training in the past five years 18,000 police and military out of 63 nations most of them certainly from our region Central America the Caribbean and other parts so that's a way to contribute to to to stability and on the other side we have been signing agreements with the European Union next week will sign an agreement with met with United Nations for these missions and that kind of cooperation my impression our impression after this study because this is a consequence of a large analysis were involved in is that in the coming future even today no nation and I would say even the US can tackle problems alone so cooperation is the is the issues the way of doing things and certainly peace and stability in the world is a matter of importance for a country like Colombia certainly for you its own internal peace certainly for what is required I think among nations thank you very much Minister les servos - professor and I am I also mentioned have been key policymaker assistant secretary of defense in the biggest the armed forces in the world but still an armed force that has to make choices because being big doesn't mean that you don't have to make some serious choices if you were asked by the president right now to say what are the main issues for the US military of the future where would you start well I think the hardest thing for a large country military like the u.s. is for the military to ask what kind of war are we planning for and you know it there we go in cycles of conventional beliefs of what the next war there may never be another Iraq they will never be another Vietnam so on and so forth the answer is we don't know and we're often wrong when we make these predictions twenty years ago I mean I think was a British general who said we're now fighting fourth-generation warfare he was commanding in Bosnia he said it's war among the peoples it's not large military units confronting each other it's war among the people when you might say we're really in a fifth generation warfare it's almost war without people drones cyber you know we're the people not near the battlefront and we are also receiving in of the drones well then the receiving edge and somebody has to push the button but but it's a very different concept than Napoleon getting his phalanx is in the right positions Edie we talk now about hybrid warfare which is if you look at Gaza in 2006 or Ukraine today it's really a mixture of of covert military units with political units struggling to control the message so you're mixing your propaganda with your you're fighting in ways in which you're trying to accomplish what what your real objective is is a political objective and how you mix the the battling with the propaganda is so so the the short answer then is if you asked if the president says I have to cut my defense budget or I don't want to save money what do I do don't make the mistake we made after Vietnam where we deliberately unlearn the lessons of counterinsurgency I'm not in favor of coined but I'm just saying to think that you will never need it again would be a grave mistake you do have to basically have a wide portfolio of capabilities and particularly if you can't predict what kind of war you're gonna be in and you may be involved in many you're gonna have to build a portfolio which allows you to deal with a lot of contingencies which you hope you won't have to deal with in that sense I think I've just written a book called is the American Center over it and I think my answer is no and I think American military power will be preeminent for quite some time but it only will be preeminent if you learn how to use it without other instruments and don't make the mistake of thinking you know what the shape of future war is so a good military planner has to have a very broad horizon thank you very much for mr. 9 let's go to ambassador a singer two weeks you'll have the Munich Security Conference and and you've had that now for 50-plus years I think not you personally with the conference's we made and which means of course the main issues of the day are always debated can you help us with extracting some of the mega trends when it comes to how conflict is involving and how the battlefield is changing well it's been you you made the most important point at the beginning and and I think professor and I just underlined that also the difficulty is to predict what's going to happen next a year ago today as you were conducting this conference and as we were in the last stages of preparing Munich not one person and I was talking to many some here in this room not one person in mid January of last year told me that I should stage the debate about Ukraine as a debate about the failure the breakdown of European security everybody said let's have let's have some of these actors from Ukraine you know Klitschko and hopefully some of the rebels this is a debate this is a conflict in Ukraine this was a year ago now it is a European conflict maybe even a global challenge and the same of course is true with the so-called Islamic state etc in other words we have no choice professor Knight just made the point our militaries have to be prepared for all sorts of contingent we cannot only prepare for territorial defense for a while some of us in Europe thought that was over completely now we are rediscovering that the the core task of NATO should still be an important part of our agenda but again not the only one we also need to prepare for the kinds of modern variants like hybrid warfare insurgency situations etc now if it is true that most of the conflicts that we will be looking at will tend to be more conflicts within countries than classic conflicts between state a and state B trying to send tank armies against each other then it's going to be generally more difficult than in the past to end a conflict world war two in Europe was ended by the Nazis surrendering and the Allies occupying and that was that that definitely ended that war ending a war like the one you were engaged in I believe is much harder because you're not likely to have a some kind of official surrender so the question of how you can create a sustainable lasting political solution in these difficult circumstances is I think the big challenge what does that require it requires that our militaries need to be trained highly intelligently they need to understand the environment they need to be engaged in either they themselves or with other parts of our institutions in civil elements reconstruction nation-building I don't want to be too long here but you know in Europe we believe that we continue to believe in Tarrance as a major instrument of preventing conflict when I look at some of these conflicts in the Middle East and elsewhere maybe preventive nation building to prevent countries from becoming failed States to prevent countries from being so weak that they cannot deal with insurgent groups is also important in other words these these non-military aspects of post-conflict rehabilitation nation building and pre-conflict preventive financial political social and other methods of soft intervention are also very important let me make one final one in Europe for the 28 members of the European Union the future of the military will not work will not produce meaningful results unless we are willing to make concessions on the principle of sovereignty we need to accept the fact that if we keep lowering our defense budgets the only way to have capable fighting forces is if we pool and share and effectively pooling and sharing means that you're gonna have to rely on your ally that he will be with you in other words that you have joint decision-making and that's a hard thing to do so forth for the 28 members of the European Union pooling and sharing and discussing the question how we can move into a more joint decision-making apparatus respecting our parliamentary caveats and prerogatives that's really a huge political task for coming years thank you Hwang @ y7 well said I think the message from the panel so far to you representing the soldiers and sailors is that we want it to be best at everything that there was at the same time back in the cold where war were happy as long as you were deterring third world war that was kind of easy and it worked and then we asked you to do OoT W which was operations other than war or which some American soldier said operations other than what I signed up for and now I think you have to do a little bit of both how does that look from your perspective I think I would contest the argument I think we have always been expected to deal with whatever card was put on the table at at any time in history and as has already been pointed out our ability to predict what may be coming with a high degree of accuracy is is is almost 100% imperfect so or we do need to be able to to prepare forces that are that are able to deal with a wide range the the types of adversaries I think we're all in agreement spans the the range of nation-states engaged in conventional nation on nation combat operations it could be nation-states engaged in hybrid or proxy warfare employing either direct proxies or sometimes employing the the services of transnational organized criminal networks and we also have to deal with with the the the phenomenon of heavily ideologically motivated terrorist networks and so in order to deal with that that wide range of contingencies modern militaries will have to retain the ability to engage in high-end nation-state war on war a state on state of warfare for two reasons principally one if you retain that capability that serves as a strong deterrent of nations perhaps miscalculating or engaging in in dangerous activities that could lead to that kind of a conflict secondly if you purport to be a an exporter of security an exporter of the ability to train and equip other countries you have to show that you are proficient in that type of warfare so we place a high priority on regardless of the the degree of technology that is employed and the regardless of the advanced future futuristic types of concepts small unit infantry tactics that the dirty bloody difficult and of the business you have to prove that you can master or or you won't be effective but I think as we look to the future and particularly as we look to the development of military leaders we've discovered that we must make sure that we we develop the kind of leaders that have the intellectual agility and certainly the the flexibility of doctrine and of of procedures to be able to work not just with other military services that that was the big argument thirty years ago but to be able to work very very effectively with the full spectrum of the national security enterprise so that means military forces being able to communicate effectively and understand and work with law enforcement organizations intelligence organizations professional diplomats as well as in many instances nongovernmental organizations that we find all around the world so it is a it is a it's a difficult challenge but but we have found over the last ten years that we have been able to blend those kinds of capabilities into very effective networks that we can lay down on top of these adversary networks that we can work very very closely with international partners who also have developed a high degree of expertise as is the case with Colombia that we are able to to in some instances and with some countries help them as they try to develop the the synapses between their interagency organizations to try and build the trust between law enforcement and intelligence community and the and the military so that's where we're going that's the direction that we need to go because as has already been pointed out with today's Sur global security challenges there is no single country in the world that is able to deal with these challenges individually in isolation we all have recognized this a long time ago and place great importance on the ability to work effectively with partners which was also a major theme in the State of the Union address from President Obama are you are you actively trying to learn the lessons from for instance Colombia or or the perimeter and I I would say we we have been learning the lessons and we've been working very closely with Columbia and we we share a rich history of working together and I would say in in today's era we are learning as much or more from Columbia as perhaps we might have taught in the past so it is uh it they are an excellent exporter of security both within the region and as Minister Pina zonas has pointed out into West Africa into other places so it's one of the authoritative sorry one of the thorny questions that defense ministers in I think every country in the world struggles with I've tried that myself in my own tenure is how do you make the long-term investment decisions given that the world changes as much as we just heard in one year because if particularly if you were a smaller country but even for the u.s. you will have it sometimes you have to make a choice do you want to invest in a new frigate or a submarine or do you want more light Special Forces and of course they you know your preferred answer is both but if you have to make a choice how do you know because the lead time is many years to take many many years to build this equipment and take years to train people to do it to run it and then you will have it for 40 years until you have to decide whether you want to do it again or no how do you make these decisions in such a volatile world open questions a former vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff once said platforms are not what you focus on your platforms will be around but what's young the platforms the information systems those are going to change very rapidly so invest in platforms which you can adapt and adapt quickly so you know the b-52 has been around longer than Davos but the b-52 today is not the b-52 of the 1960s the same thing as you think of aircraft innovate that doesn't like that one yeah right exactly it was it's the continual change but the continual application of information technology systems so don't focus too much on the platform focus instead on the ability to keep it adapting the platform should we open the floor for questions must be a quick question we have very few minutes but before I do that just as a teaser the next panel in this very room just after this is on the future of intelligence services and as I think there's some overlap in interest you may want to stay so you can come back to this in the next panel but for the military's quest first question is here thank you I'm Fareed Yassin I'm the Iraqi ambassador to France which puts me in a interesting point of perspective there is much more to the military than fighting the military is an institution is in many countries a force for social cohesion and that's a point that's being raised by many countries including my own and including France where I currently really doesn't reside because we've seen lots of people take a tangent and go off and become deadly insurgents elsewhere and there is debate now in France as there is an Iraq about reintroducing is conscription as a measure of social cohesion to ensure social cohesion and I noted that we are in Switzerland which is the country par excellence of the citizens army and it's exemplary in its social cohesion so my question to the panel is what role do you see for the future military in terms of implementing ensuring social cohesion countries and what do you think conscription play a role in an ever increasingly specialized forces thank you great question please call video collect defuse of the audience has a chance then and the reboot will have the floor in a second but but I just want to recognize the presence of the chief of Defense of Switzerland and thank him for his troops actually making it possible for us to be here and there was the people of protecting the outer perimeter actually largely conscripts so that's part of the answer to your question I guess over here no I'm Amanda Ellis New Zealand ambassador to the UN in Geneva you mentioned the importance of working with a range of actors including international diplomats for those of us who are now on the Security Council tell us what we can be doing to support you helping create a safer world okay one more question I can't see Yeah right there I mean it's good Gideon Rose Gideon Rose editor of Foreign Affairs in the last year we've seen Russia invade Crimea the ongoing conflict in Ukraine and Western sanctions applied in response taken as a whole has this experience undermined norms about the use of force to a aggression or reinforced them great question Thank You Gideon okay I love one more if there's somebody no okay let's go back to the panel yeah there was one you already loved right there Thank You Noah Barkin at Reuters based in Berlin I have a question for mr. itching or a year ago at the Munich Security Conference we have heard speeches from the German President the German Defense Minister German Foreign Minister calling for a more active German foreign policy more muscular foreign policy where are we a year later after Ukraine the arming of the Kurds in in Iraq okay wait thank you for those questions yeah why don't we start with this reservation yeah okay thank you thank you thanks for a question well there's good news and there's bad news the bad news is that we have just released actually yesterday the results of a poll taken in Germany of to what extent Germans would support a more proactive including more militarily proactive foreign policy the result is not entirely that it does not lead to great you four in other words Germans apparently remain rather skeptical at the same time that's the good news I think the debate in Munich last year started not only abroad discussion in Germany it led to certain decisions and be--and to certain policies which without the start of this debate would not have happened one is the delivery of certain types of weapons to the Peshmerga totally impossible to imagine a year ago second the kind of and I put it in quotes in quotation marks the kind of leadership role which Chancellor Merkel and and our Forester have had to assume more or less in terms of how to deal with our Russian counterparts on the Ukrainian crisis I think that is something which has been encouraged by this debate so in other words I think things have changed some of you may feel they haven't changed enough but I think things are changing in the right direction great questions on social cohesion as created by the military you talked about the you know the role of the military in taking a nation I have not only security I think was what you mentioned the issue of conscripts who want to go in and well I think it we recognize historically there have been very very important roles played by militaries in the role of social cohesion the challenge that you will always run into is there is there is going to be attention among the professional military I suspect they will always prefer to have a professional military that can be highly trained that has a degree of commitment to the mission that that perhaps may be greater and perhaps national leaders may find it easier to use professional militaries because they won't be there won't be constriction is placed on where those military forces can be deployed to or how they may be employed so so there's there's going to be more flexibility but that's not to say that there's not an important role to be played and I think we all recognize that the more members of certainly a democracy understand exactly what is at stake exactly what the price to be paid for enjoying the types of freedoms and liberties that we enjoy the the stronger the democracy will be so it's attention we have exactly three more minutes and three more speakers to come with a common final comment did I give a one-minute answer then - Gideon's question about norms if there had been no response to the taking of a neighbor's territory by force which profoundly violates the 1945 settlement then I think the norm would have been damaged the fact that we've had sanctions the fact that they're having in effect mean oil price makes some important difference but even before that Putin was being cut off from the sources of Western technology he needs for frontier oil and gas instead he's becoming China's gas station which is not where he wants to be he's destroyed the prospects for his Eurasian Union and he's done something which we couldn't do if we tried which is solidified NATO as we saw at Wales so if you ask is this man a brilliant actor strategist no he's a disastrous strategist he's a brilliant tactician but his tactics have included unsuspectingly reinforcement of the 1945 norm rather than destruction of it and just a very quick ten seconds on UN Security Council never underestimate the importance of the United Nations peacekeeping forces they're not perfect they have all sorts of problems but when the world gets into a mess in some area and can't figure it out the presence of UN peacekeepers is extraordinarily important thank you very much for that before I get the floor two pins on one I just want to point out that in your answer which i think is a good answer to that question you also suggest one of the reasons why we're interested in the economics because actually the response to a military attack if no practical purposes it's been in the economic realm which of course matters to the members of the World Economic Forum because it means the return of the active use of economic instruments for strategic political means and then we can reflect on that in future panels and please don't want there's some kind of observations on things that we have been doing in the present that I believe are important for the future listening to this discussion and to the questions first a giving capabilities other than military to the Armed Forces is very important a capabilities to keep giving building capacity or supporting natural disasters I think that gives credibility legitimacy and at the same time certainly there are a platform in logistical platform then anyone else can match at least in a country like mine and I believe in many countries second education military education I think that is critical the kind of problems the world is gonna confront as Professor Nye we're well described are unexpected you never know but the only way you can tackle those is if you have a cadre of professionals in these case military professionals that are educated beyond their own technical or military responsibilities so in our case right now I have more military than ever showing in different universities in the world around 60 65 officers and we're trying to increase that that's a little bit of an effort that I believe is going to be important for the future third understanding that we have to merge the capabilities of the military and the police and that's critical you know at least on a symmetric challenges when you go and try to confront the problem with a with a military suddenly they will find that they are fighting crime or at least sources of violence that are related to crime so we need a military that can be effective in policing but or a police that can have some of military capabilities at least in the short term to come from issues I'm have more about in terms constraining sorry for that so the lot ministers or Deputy Prime Telugu very shortly in the beginning as we started Lee Poirier the democratic process in Iraq the main idea of the main forces of the Iraqi population was to keep the army out of the interior inflict conflicts to limit the activities in the defending the country from the straight side but the but the crimes of the other terrorists assist two thousand four or five had turned that all over so we were forced to use the army inside the country and here is the point here we should think that the army shouldn't be a tool of one component and the the interior conflicts because it is very very high cloud to distinguish a terrorist from another people who have another idea or he who is opposing the the policy of the government that's why just to keep the the the army in a right way inside the country and having an effective role to tackling the terrorism there should be political stability in the country there should be a mutual understanding between the components of the Iraqi population on the basis of real a partnership and at equality thank you very much that the Prime Minister thanks to all of you for an excellent panel and as I said there's no reason to leave because next panel is in fourth quarter on our future of intelligence services which will also be a very interesting panel thank you very much contact with it

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Published: Sat Jan 24 2015