>>> THIS MORNING WE ARE REMINDED ONCE AGAIN OF WHO DONALD TRUMP REALLY IS, AT A RALLY IN OHIO, THE FORMER PRESIDENT SAID SOME MIGRANTS ARE NOT PEOPLE. HE CAST DOWN ON THE FUTURE OF AMERICAN DEMOCRACY IF HE LOSES IN NOVEMBER. >> IF THIS ELECTION ISN'T WON, I'M NOT SURE YOU WILL EVER HAVE ANOTHER ELECTION IN THIS COUNTRY, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? I DON'T THINK YOU WILL HAVE ANOTHER ELECTION IN THIS COUNTRY IN OR CERTAINLY NOT A ELECTION THAT IS MEANINGFUL. >> HE CONTINUED TO WHITEWASH JANUARY 6th, HE STOOD FOR A RECORDING OF THE NATIONAL ANTHEM PERFORMED BY 1/6 DEFENDANT FROM JAIL. HE CALLED THEM QUOTE HOSTAGES. JOINING US IS DAVID CORN, YOU'VE ALSO A POLITICAL ANALYST. >> DAVID WHAT DID YOU THINK ABOUT DONALD TRUMP'S BLOODBATH COMMENTS. AND I MUST NOTE, LOOK, DONALD TRUMP, CAMPAIGN, THEY SAID HE WAS TALKING ABOUT AN ECONOMIC LIKE BACK I DON'T KNOW IF I BUY THAT BUT THAT IS IN FACT WHAT THE CAMPAIGN SAID. >> TRUMP HAS ALWAYS DONE THIS. WE'VE BEEN WATCHING THE SHOW FOR OVER EIGHT YEARS NOW AND I'VE SEEN IT EVEN LONGER IF YOU'VE COVERED HIM FOR YEARS, HE USES THESE HIGH IMPACT WORDS THAT HAVE EITHER THE DIRECT OR IMPLICIT TONE OF VIOLENCE. JANUARY 6th, COME DOWN, IT'S GOING TO BE WILD, GO TO THE CAPITAL AND FIGHT LIKE . >> IT IS ACTUALLY USED EXPLICIT VIOLENT LANGUAGE AND TELLING HIS OWN PEOPLE AT RALLIES TO BEAT THE YOU KNOW WHAT OUT OF PROTESTERS AT THESE RALLIES. AT THIS POINT IN THE GAME, TRYING TO PARSE A WORD LIKE BLOODBATH IS ABSURD. IN THE SAME SPEECH HE CALLS HUNDREDS WHO BEAT UP COPS, UNBELIEVABLE PATRIOTS. WHEN HE SAYS THE WORD BLOODBATH, HE KNOWS WHAT HE'S DOING, WHETHER HE MEETS AN ECONOMIC BLOODBATH OR SOMETHING ELSE IN THE SAME SPEECH, HE IS ENDORSING POLITICAL VIOLENCE AND WHEN HE SAYS HE'LL NEVER HAVE ANOTHER ELECTION IF I DON'T WIN, WELL, THAT, TOO, HAS A TONE OF VIOLENCE TO IT AS WELL. THE ONLY WAY TO TAKE POWER WOULD BE TO USE POWER IF THERE'S NO ELECTION. >> I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, I WANT TO PLAY THAT SOUND FROM THE SPEECH ON SATURDAY, IN DAYTON. IF WE COULD. >> WE ARE GOING TO PUT A 100% TARIFF ON EVERY SINGLE CAR THAT COMES ACROSS THE LINE AND HE WON'T BE ABLE TO SELL THOSE. IF I GET ELECTED, AND NOW IF I DON'T GET ELECTED IT'S GOING TO BE A BLOODBATH, THAT WILL BE THE LEAST OF IT. IT'LL BE A BLOODBATH FOR THE COUNTRY. THEY ARE NOT GOING TO SELL THOSE CARS. >> MY TAKE AWAY FROM THAT IS DONALD TRUMP IS A GROWN MAN. HE'S A GROWN MAN, AND LAST TIME I, YOU KNOW, SAW AND HEARD HIM SPEAK, HE COULD SPEAK THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE WITH SOME DEGREE OF CONCLUSION DOES MY CONFUSION. THOSE WERE HIS WORDS OUT OF HIS MOUTH. YOU HAVE THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION COME BACK WITH A STATEMENT, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY SAYING, THIS IS WHO DONALD TRUMP IS, A LOSER WHO GETS BEAT BY OVER 7 MILLION VOTES AND INSTEAD OF APPEALING TO A WIDER MAINSTREAM AUDIENCE DOUBLES DOWN ON HIS THREATS OF POLITICAL VIOLENCE. I THINK THAT IS THE RIGHT TONE. I THINK THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN HAS PUT THEIR FINGER ON THE RIGHT PART OF THIS. IS THAT WHAT WE HAVE TO DO NOW, TO YOUR POINT, DAVID? WE KNOW HE HAS A WAY OF USING THESE WORDS TO SORT OF, INSIGHT, YOU KNOW, THE KIND OF RESPONSE FROM HIS AUDIENCE BUT THERE IS MEANING BEHIND THE WORDS BECAUSE USE THE WORDS THAT YOU MEAN, RIGHT? >> HE USES APOCALYPTIC LANGUAGE. HE SAYS JOE BIDEN IS A RADICAL, WORKING WITH COMMUNISTS AND ANTIFA TO DESTROY THE SUBURBS. THAT'S LITERALLY WHAT HE SAID OVER AND OVER, SO HE'S SAYING, THEY ARE COMING AT US WITH VIOLENCE, WE HAVE TO MEET THEM WITH VIOLENCE, OF COURSE, HIS ANALYSIS IS ABSURD, JOE BIDEN, HAND-IN-HAND WITH ANTIFA AND COMMUNIST, BUT IT HAS A RACIAL COMPONENT BECAUSE HE'S TALKING ABOUT WHITE SUBURBS, IT'S FEAR MONGERING. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT VIOLENCE, YOU ARE BASICALLY APPEALING TO PEOPLE'S FEAR, YOU ARE TRYING TO GET THEM TO SEE THE OTHER SIDE AS PEOPLE WHO CAN ONLY BE DEALT WITH, WITH VIOLENCE. SO I KEEP COMING BACK TO THIS, IT FEELS LIKE WE ARE KIND OF STUCK IN GROUNDHOG DAY. WE HAVE THE SAME DISCUSSION AND DEBATE ABOUT TRUMP, HIS USE OF LANGUAGE, VIOLENCE, FOR THE LAST EIGHT YEARS. YOU KNOW, WHEN SOMEONE TELLS YOU WHO THEY ARE, BELIEVE THEM. AND TO ME THE SCARY THING IS NOT THAT HE'S DOING THIS, HE'S BEEN DOING THIS FOR EIGHT YEARS AND IT STILL APPEALING TO TENS OF MILLIONS OF AMERICANS, AND THAT'S A DEEPER QUESTION WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT AND A DEEPER CHALLENGE FOR THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN AND THE DEMOCRATS TO CONTEND WITH. >> AND I WOULD ARGUE, DAVID, FOR THE COUNTRY. THERE WAS ALSO AN ADDITION TO THE VIOLENT RHETORIC THERE WAS THE DEHUMANIZATION OF MIGRANTS. SAYING SOME MIGRANTS ARE NOT PEOPLE. I THINK WE HEARD ENOUGH DONALD TRUMP SOUND FOR TODAY BUT I WON'T PLAY ANYMORE BUT HE DID BRAG ABOUT THE FACT THAT HE WAS HAVE THE LARGEST DOMESTIC DEPORTATION OPERATION IN AMERICAN HISTORY. I THOUGHT IT WAS NOTABLE THAT HE TRIED TO ARGUE THAT THE CRISIS WE ARE SEEING AT OUR SOUTHERN BORDER HAS AFFECTED HISPANIC AND AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITIES MORE THAN ANY OTHERS, THAT SEEMS TO ME LIKE A VERY STRATEGIC CHOICE. WE SAT AT THIS TABLE MANY TIMES TALKING ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN, THEY KNOW THEY DON'T HAVE TO WIN LATINO VOTERS OR WHEN BLACK VOTERS BUT THEY JUST HAVE TO SIPHON OFF ENOUGH MARGINS FROM DEMOCRATS TO CREATE A BUFFER IN THE SWING STATES. IT'S ALARMING BOTH BECAUSE WE'VE SEEN WHAT HAPPENS WHEN DONALD TRUMP USES THIS RACIST, XENA PHOBIC RHETORIC BUT IT'S ALSO DANGEROUS TO ME, SYMONE, THAT HE IS SLIPPING AND, IN THE MIDDLE, A CALL TO LATINOS AND AFRICAN AMERICANS TO USE IMMIGRATION AS A WEDGE. >> HE'S PROBABLY BANKING ON THAT WE ARE STUPID. THAT BLACK AND LATINO VOTERS ARE NOT PAYING ENOUGH ATTENTION AND THEY CAN BE SCARED WITH HIS XENA PHOBIC AND I WOULD ARGUE, QUITE FRANKLY RACIST RHETORIC, INTO PITTING THEMSELVES AGAINST ONE ANOTHER, IN THE SAME BREATH HE SAYS THESE THINGS, HE WILL ALSO, YOU KNOW, GO ON TO SAY, AND REMIND US AND SAY OH, I WAS VERY GOOD TO THE BLACK COMMUNITY, BLACK PEOPLE LOVE ME, REMEMBER HE SAID THAT BLACK PEOPLE REALLY IDENTIFIED WITH HIM BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT, FROM HIS PERSPECTIVE IS AFTER HIM, AND BLACK PEOPLE IDENTIFY WITH THAT? I THINK AGAIN, PEOPLE HAVE TO LOOK AT NOT THE POLLS, BUT WHAT IS HAPPENING IN COMMUNITIES. AND THERE IS SOME SKEPTICISM AMONG BLACK AND LATINO VOTERS IN VARIOUS SWING STATES ACROSS THE COUNTRY BUT I THINK PEOPLE HAVE TO SLOW THEIR ROLE BEFORE THEY EQUATE THAT WITH FOLKS VOTING FOR DONALD TRUMP. AS THE VICE PRESIDENT HAS BEEN SAYING ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL, I HEARD A SPEECH OF HERS AND SHE SAID THAT DEMOCRATS ARE FIGHTING THE COUCH. I THINK THAT IS ACTUALLY THE MORE CONCERNING THING THESE DEMOCRATIC CAMPAIGNS, NOT THAT LARGE SWATHS OF PEOPLE WILL VOTE FOR TRUMP BUT THAT THEY COULD STAY HOME. >> THAT'S TRUE. I MEAN THAT'S THE BIG ISSUE FROM THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN, REMINDING PEOPLE AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN, OF THE DANGERS THAT DONALD TRUMP POSES, THIS IS A GUY WHOSE MISMANAGEMENT OF THE PANDEMIC COST THE LIVES OF HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF AMERICANS. THESE WERE PREVENTABLE DEATH ACCORDING TO THE SURVEYS BUT PEOPLE FORGET ABOUT THAT, TO THE EXTENT THAT SEAN KENNEDY CAN GO ON AND SAY SHE BETTER FOUR YEARS AGO, WE ARE WORRIED, WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THE FUTURE OR THE COUNTRY WOULD BE AND YET, SO PEOPLE ARE YOU KNOW, THEY MAY NOT LOVE BIDEN OR BE JAZZED BY HIM BUT MAYBE TO REMEMBER WHAT THOSE TRUMP YEARS WERE LIKE. WHAT HE REPRESENTS. AND HE DOES THIS FIREHOSE OF OUTRAGE, SO AS SOON AS HE SAYS SOMETHING OR DO SOMETHING OUTRAGEOUS, HE DOES 20 OF IN AND OUT ALL CLOSE TOGETHER, THEY TURN IT OFF AND IT'S TRUMP BEING TRUMP AND THE NEW YORK TIMES EVEN SAID HE TRAFFICS IN STEREOTYPES. ALL OF THESE THINGS BLUR TOGETHER AND POINTING IT OUT AND GETTING PEOPLE ENERGIZED ABOUT HIM IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST CHALLENGES THAT THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN FACES. >> THAT GOES TO ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE BEEN SAYING FOR A LONG TIME. WE HAD A CONVERSATION YESTERDAY, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE RECENT, YOU KNOW, THE RECENT NOT THAT OF COURSE, THAT THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM FINDS ITSELF IN IN DEALING WITH HIS CASES, HE FLOODS THE ZONE IN SUCH A WAY THAT THE SYSTEM DOESN'T KNOW, K, WHAT TO DO WITH ALL OF THE INCOMING, BUT THEN, HE GETS SORT OF, IN THE SPACE WHERE, OKAY, HE'S A FORMER PRESIDENT AND WE'VE NEVER DONE THIS BEFORE AND IT'S ALMOST A SENSE THAT HIS TEAM IS BANKING ON THAT, OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM, POLITICAL SYSTEM, IS NOT BUILT TO DEAL WITH AN ASYMMETRICAL PLAYER LIKE TRUMP, WHO DOESN'T CARE. HE'S GOING TO THROW IT OUT THERE, HE'S GOING TO GO OUT AND USE THE KIND OF LANGUAGE THAT HE KNOWS, DELIBERATELY KNOWS WILL OFFEND AND THAT HE'S LIKE OKAY, I'M GOING TO LEAVE THIS NUGGET HERE FOR YOU TO WORK OUT. I'M MOVING ON. AND SO, TO YOUR POINT, I THINK WE HAVE TO NOW FIND OURSELVES COLLECTIVELY CLEANSING THIS OUT OF OUR SYSTEM, AND NOT FOCUSING SO MUCH ON EVERY LITTLE BIT BUT STAYING FOCUSED ON THE BIGGER QUESTION OF, THE MAN SAID HE WANTS TO BE A DICTATOR, OKAY. >> HE SAID HE WANTS TO BE A DICTATOR, HE SAID THERE WON'T BE ELECTIONS AGAIN, LAST NIGHT, HE SAID IT WILL BE A BLOODBATH, WHETHER RATHER ECONOMIC OR REGULAR. HE'S TELLING US. I THINK MICHAEL'S POINT, I THINK THE SYSTEM COULD HANDLE TRUMP, IT HAS DECIDED IT'S GOING TO TREAT HIM DIFFERENTLY BUT MICHAEL'S OVERALL POINT, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD RUSH OVER AT ALL AND MAYBE WE ALL NEED TO TAKE A SIP AND THINK ABOUT IT AS AMERICANS BUT WHY, WHY, WHY, DO WE FIND IT OH, OKAY, WE HAVE TO MOVE ONTO THE NEXT THING. WE CANNOT, AFTER EIGHT, 10, TREAT HIM LIKE A REGULAR PERSON. HE'S NOT REGULAR. >> AND I JUST POINT OUT SOMETHING TO YOU, MY WIFE POINTED OUT TO ME THE OTHER DAY, SHE SAID, I JUST WANT A DAY WHEN I CAN GET UP AND NOT HAVE TO THINK ABOUT TALK ABOUT REACT TO, OR SEES DONALD TRUMP ON MY NEWS IN MY PAPERS IN MY MEDIA, FOLKS, WE HAVE BEEN INUNDATED AND CONSUMED BY THIS ONE MAN, FOR EIGHT YEARS. YOU DON'T TALK ABOUT ANYONE IN YOUR FAMILY THAT MUCH. YOU DON'T TALK ABOUT YOUR FRIENDS THAT MUCH. ASK YOURSELVES, WHEN YOU HAVE A CONVERSATION, HOW MANY TIMES DOES SOMEONE RAISE HIS NAME OR YOU BRING IT UP, THAT IS THE PROBLEM WE HAVE IN THIS COUNTRY RIGHT NOW. WE NEED TO CLEANSE OURSELVES OF THIS. THE ELECTION IS THE WAY YOU DO IT, IN MY VIEW. I MEAN, HE'S TELLING US THAT YOU KNOW, WHAT HIS WORLD IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE, YOU EITHER WANT MORE OF THAT, OR YOU DON'T. THIS IS FOR ME, A VERY CLARIFYING MOMENT, BUT -- >> WE'VE HAD OTHER CLARIFYING MOMENTS. >> IT'S BEEN A CLARIFYING COUPLE OF YEARS. WE ARE AT THE INFLECTION POINT. WE ARE RIGHT THERE, ELECTIONS MATTER, TO BE CLEAR, WE NEED TO SAY THIS, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HIM AND THE NEWS MEDIA IS TALKING ABOUT HIM BECAUSE HE IS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT AND IF PEOPLE AREN'T PAYING ATTENTION
