Dave and I Talk About Gear We Regret Selling

hey everybody i'm rick beato dave vonorado so today we're going to talk about gear that we regret selling and there's plenty of that yeah [Laughter] it's so much we're sitting here trying to make a list of what we're here's the funny thing is that dave remembers a lot of the gear that i regret selling because i sold it to the music stores that he worked at so he's telling me he's like oh yeah what about that one i remember when you brought that in i'm like why are you selling that uh yeah i remember there's a couple i was like are you sure you know no so i sold everything i sold is because i was broke yeah well me too i mean that's usually that's usually the case with everybody i mean that's really the yeah or just stupidity of one of those like for me sometimes it was like i was maybe just bored with something i don't know yeah yeah but no no there's a couple things i sold that i don't know why i did yeah okay well no i didn't i i have a lot i don't know why yeah so that i could have kept and i didn't yeah i don't know man i mean you know okay so you go first dave um well and this is in no order so i'm just gonna pull out a head i the first thing that hits my mind was i owned um a 1962 sg standard like you're 65 right um but it was owned by joey mullins of badfinger and it was his main sg from the uh i think like 1970 to like uh the early 80s so he would have played he was on every bad finger right i mean no matter what day after day and when i hear those guitar sounds like baby blue i i was listening to that in the car and i love those guitar songs so much that i went and looked up what guitar he played and i saw it yeah but it was just got basically yours and because it reminded me of the sound of my sg it's kind of significant what if it's an sg it's basically the same things are his uh the for those of you that don't know bad finger oh yeah check out badfinger they're banned from the like uh 69 to maybe mid 70s mid 70s and they had songs baby blue day after day these were massive hits if you if you watch breaking coming get it come and get it right if you watch breaking bad the end song when walt dies sorry to be a spoiler there um baby blue is the song that plays yeah yeah yeah which was an incredibly cool choice oh yeah yeah no bad finger and it really collected catalog too like all of their records were very different so um okay wait so what wait why did you sell this um well okay it was a few things but um long story short uh went to mullen's house with my my dad and actually bought the guitar from him uh he in the league where did he live he lived in uh um uh minnesota okay st paul and um wait where was badfinger from uh well they were from england but but um why did he live in minnesota uh his mom lived there okay and at the time yeah i don't know the whole totally weird okay he went to his house yes went to his house um and he had the sg there and it was a 62 sg standard like you're 65 yeah he had put a stop tailpiece mod on to it i took the the original vibra that was on it was one of the sideways vibratos yeah so he took that off and put a set of grover gears on it russell guitar was fine it wasn't broken and it was a guitar that he used on everything from yeah like 70. why was he selling it he was broke um apple uh he didn't get any royalties from the apple catalog after a while and um badfinger was no longer around pete ham had killed himself and then the bass player killed himself yeah and so there was no bad finger left so joey was really the only one left and he still was doing a bad finger tributary band but but it was just him and it was his main guitar and higa had gotten sick at the time and uh so he needed the money you know it was okay like like we're talking here why do we sell why we need the money so that's what he you know and um and why did you sell it that's the real question that's why we're here yes uh so uh the guitar was sold i s we sold the guitar me and my dad solo guitar a vintage show that we had a booth at in in 1987 at the dallas show um we debated on keeping the guitar to be honest it wasn't the greatest playing sg it wasn't it wasn't like one it wasn't like yours where you mine is well you just pick them like oh man this is his guitar it was nice but i had owned a lot other ones that were i thought way better it's ours honestly okay um but um at the time bad finger wasn't really that it wasn't that big of a deal because that well here you think about that okay so bad finger literally had three songs okay on the radio at the time people knew who bad finger was but there wasn't this huge association at that time with like the beatles thing some people knew that they were on beatles records but nobody yeah that's kind of yeah right whatever you know it wouldn't be like today where it was like revered as like oh my god they were the first band signed to apple and like you know it was it wasn't i hate to say it he just wasn't that big of a player where it was like you know if i owned uh you know some something ridiculous you know the and les paul you know something that was so iconic yeah it was a guitar that it was one of his main guitars but it wasn't like people would just go oh my god that's that figure sg okay so it did get sold to the hard rock cafe that's who bought it um it's in the hard rock collection now it goes around the world and it's been shown okay all over the place all right well that's that's that's it yes that's at least a good ending yeah i i didn't walk down to a pawn shop and sell it for 200 bucks because i needed crack money you know okay all right so my first we decided we're going to pick five things here yeah so my first regret is this jcm 800 that i had a 1981 jc m800 that i used in my band billionaire um and i sold it i bought it at midtown music in the mid-90s or so and i sold it i can't remember selling it i don't remember why in the world i can't think of a reason i don't know because of all the amps during that period that i knew you that was the best one you had right i mean that was better that's the best amp i've ever owned because you had because you bought your 2000 head after that and i was kind of about that as a sp as a backup and i was like yeah and i was like if you're going to sell anything sell that don't sell them right so i don't know why you sold it and i don't know who you sold it i have no idea who i sold the door or why it was gone in the early 2000s and i do remember it was it was a good one it was on there it was like an 81 82 with the brown girl cloth yeah it was it was 81. great for that it was unbelievably good sounding yeah it was one of those ones i i but i don't know and and i if anyone out there knows if i sold it to anybody out there i mean back then you didn't sell stuff on ebay it was early enough that i wouldn't wouldn't no it wouldn't no you this was free ebay it was it was so you traded in this yeah you took it to a store you put in the local paper yeah and i never put it in the local paper so i must take it at some store wouldn't it idiot yeah and i said i know i didn't buy it because i would remember that that was you know so dave worked at multiple stores that i used to go to all the time yeah i worked at at all the stores and all the stores i used to go to so and they've they've sold me yeah like anything good dave would tell me oh you need to buy this yeah i'd call them and say hey man i got something cool you want to come over and look out yeah okay so what's what's what's number two dave number two for me was um there was a guy named chris derrick who made uh les paul replicas here in atlanta and um he was actually the guy who made slash his appetite for destruction right that's why replica yeah um well i owned chris's personal guitar that he would take around to people to show that his work and say like yeah take orders from basically yeah well it was this it was the serial number before the one he made for slash so i actually had so when would this have been um the guitar would have been made um slashes was made like around um 86 580 we've been 85. okay um because derek moved to la to go work for a store out there and um he went to go work for uh max bernay and um so uh and slash basically they were cutting appetite he walks down the street walks into that shop and buys that guitar so it's one of them so people don't realize this that slash did not play a lesson yeah it wasn't a real gibson it was a derrick chris derrick and um and i was i had seen some of chris's work because when i was uh seeing i saw some his work at some vintage shows i saw a couple of his replicas and and see nobody was doing hand-built replicas at this time no gibson was it you didn't have anybody else doing this right so chris was one of the first like that even the chinese were doing no no no this was the only guys that were doing stuff was like toca i was making some copies and stuff in japan but not to this level this was chris was a fanatic i mean and he had real guitars to work on and wait when did you have when did you get rid of this i bought the guitar well this is funny i bought the guitar um um it came through a shop that i worked at and i saw the guitar and what's really crazy trying to advance i'd seen the guitar at a vintage show six months before and then it walked into a store that i was working at and i was like oh my god that's the same guitar like this has to be the same guitar because it was really distinctive there was things about it and um and so i bought the guitar um and knew what it was i knew it was one of derek's guitars and unfortunately chris had passed away by this point he died right after um making actually sasha's guitar was like about a year or two after he passed away and it was from breathing on nitro fumes he would spray lacquer in his apartment and because he didn't have a spray booth and he would just breathe the fumes in he just didn't know i i guess and he died from from nitrous or nitro lacquer fumes uh but the guitar i owned was the one he built before the very one right before he built sasha's guitar and um it came if you look at slash's top on his guitar and then look at the guitar i had you could tell that the tops came from the same piece of wood like the same piece of maple he cut them very they're very very close and um that's a guitar is it still the guitar slash house he still have that guitar oh yeah oh yeah that's his main guitar yeah that's yeah that's like his yeah he'll you know that'll be in this smithsonian when he grows and it's not a gibson no it's not a gibson and what's funny is that guitar completely brought gibson back to the fold with les pauls in the 80s right and it wasn't a real less paul everybody thought it was that is amazing except a few people i was like it's fake it's like you know and the best part about all this was the i took that very guitar and i sold it to dave cobb and dave cobb owed it for a while and then he sold it to a friend of mine who called me later and said did you sell this to dave cobb and i said yeah he goes okay can you tell me the history of this guitar because i want to know all about it and i proceeded to tell him and then the guitar ended up in germany uh uh there's a guy in germany that owns all of chris derrick's guitars except for slashes and one or two other ones wow so his whole thing was i want to own every derrick les paul any he's he does and my guitar is over there so um but it was that was good okay well that's a good spot to be too dave yes those those are okay you see i don't i have so i have dave i don't have any any of my all my gear is somewhere out there don't ever you know i've had stuff where i thought i'd never see it again and then 25 years later it comes back okay so so my next guitar my next thing is a guitar number two yeah is my white les paul that i had in the 70s mid 70s les paul um that i had in high school and um i this is the reason why i bought this les paul custom recently because i've since the 70s i've wanted this again so i traded it i gave it to my brother my freshman year of college uh because i bought a 335 and you know that's legitimate and he um and he sold the this like 60s les paul black one that was my first guitar to somebody we i don't know the custom yeah he doesn't know who he doesn't remember who it went to right so i gave him the guitar and then i thought okay he's going to keep that guitar i want it back i just let it let him use or whatever so i come home one day from college and i was like where's the last ball oh i sold it what do you mean you sold it for what for this creamer creamer that he had this crappy creamer that he still has that has scat half the fingerboard scale up only from the 12th fret up on one side and i love it he still has that guitar and we've and he and i always there to remind you and we always talk about how great he and i both talked about how great the white les paul was and he not neither one of us that's all well i don't know where it went he doesn't remember where it went either we don't remember where the black one went hey probably probably house of guitars maybe in rochester yeah very well could have been probably that's pretty much there were two places there was northfield music or rizzo's music was not northfield music which is which is a great shop that my friend joe shapono has owned for 30 years and uh hey joe if you're out there and um and joe's a great guitar player it either went there but probably the house of guitars because that's usually where we would trade stuff i was going to say that's that's where i remember crammers being yeah oh yeah that's definitely crammers they were they had all yeah but but you would go trade guitars there and always get ripped off of course oh yeah but white les paul customer kramer you know they you know i mean what dude please tell me your your brother didn't give him money on top of it i have no idea i wouldn't doubt it they probably said oh we'll do an even trade yeah right yeah well we'll do you a favor yeah we'll do it we're doing even drinking oh okay fine i love it there must be some other story to that but uh yeah right okay so that's that's number one well you at least okay finally did get one though because i did get you've been looking for one forever i mean even i've been telling dave this for oh years yeah and i bought that 74 i found a great one and they broke it yeah dave found me a great one online yeah they they sent it this is probably a year ago or so yeah they sent it it got here and the headstock was completely snapped off and honestly i would have fixed the guitar but at that point it's like just yeah it was when you get you didn't want to you didn't want a broken one no so yeah i mean there's no reason no no no and you've got a great one that 90 is great so yeah that's fine okay dave number three number three well my first guitar which was a um a red 66 duo sonic fender that um my dad found in a newspaper it was like 75 and i told my dad that i wanted a guitar and we got in the car he went to this thing called the bargain post which was this little paper and found it and we met this guy in the parking lot of a hotel of course of course yeah a guy pulls up in a car you know and he pulls the guitar with dad's looking at it and it's this really nice little 66 dakota red you know do a sonic i take it home and i just obliterate the thing i mean you know like i really start beating up put stickers on it i just played the crap out of it and um and one day got the bright idea that i wanted to pull it apart you know and and because i would watch my dad pull guitars apart you know and i'm like at the time dude this is like i'm like you know six seven years old you know and um so i just figured one day i'm gonna come home and just pull my guitar apart so i pull it apart and i'm taking the pickups out and i just rip everything out of the guitar and it's just ruined i mean i broke the pickups i broke the pots you know i did i didn't know you know and so my dad comes home the thing's just in pieces and he looks at me and he's like um son what what's going on here i'm like i know dad i just want to pull it apart you know and so he said well the pickups don't work now and so we're gonna have to put new pickups in it so he ended up just taking the guitar to his store i think he pieced it together just sold it and got me something else because at that point i was like i want something else yeah so that guitar i wish i still had it wasn't anything super special just because outside being the first guitar i had and i mean actually now it's it's it's about a 2000 guitar if it was a nice shape but it just because it was my first guitar it was just you know i wish i still had it just to have it i do have my first amp but i don't have the guitar okay well i'm going to amend my list here and say that my first guitar which was a penco 12 string that i wish i had yeah there you go i got it at this shop called music lovers when i was 13. so my mom my dad didn't want me to get a guitar i had i had a one dollar guitar that my god my brother got from from one of his buddies that i used to play when i first started i can't remember what it was called it was called the global oh global yeah it was amazing i had a global it was a plywood top or something i had a global classical okay so so i used to practice it on the front steps of our house and i'd leave it outside okay so my parents didn't want to buy me a guitar my dad was like why should we get your guitar you're just going to leave it out in the front yard and i said no i said this guitar is a dollar guitar i promise i'm not going to leave it out in the front yard so so my mom uh said okay we're going to go to the music store and didn't tell my dad so my mom and i go to the shop music lovers and i've never seen a 12 string before so we're looking around at guitars and i've just i've never been to a music store like that before just to look at guitars my mom's music lovers not a good it wasn't really but you know it's a big story so i see this guitar pen code 12 string has like 12 string what's that my mom knew what a 12 string was but i didn't know what it was i mean yeah i kind of take it down i start playing i was this is amazing and my and it was 120 i think and uh so this is the mid 70s and my mom said my mom worked in the american can company and she worked in a factory on the lines and my dad worked for the railroads so there was a fortune yeah yeah right so she said okay i'm gonna buy you this you gotta promise me you're not gonna leave it outside you're gonna take care of it and you're not gonna tell your dad how much we paid for it if he asks i'm gonna tell him it's none of his business oh man wow so um mom bought me the penco and i brought it home and i played that thing forever i mean i just ripped my fingers i was gonna say i'm surprised i learned leads on it on a 12. on a 12. i learned okay bending the g string but don't forget i was playing the bass at the time i was playing upright well so i had you know figures of steel yeah okay i get it yeah and i didn't even realize how hard it was man so i'm playing all the time so anyways so i actually know where the guitar went this is actually a good thing so so when i was in college or even later 10 years later and the guitar was back home at my at my parents house and my mom was uh was still working at the can factory she said you know there's this woman i work with i was talking to her in the break room and her son wanted a guitar but they can't afford one do you mind if i just give her that guitar of yours and i said no go ahead and she gave this guy this kid a guitar gave that guitar but i selfishly and i shouldn't be selfish about this i wish i had that guitar still but i'm glad it went to a good place right i mean yeah at least at least you didn't leave it outside no and it had a three a two piece back with a beautiful i mean it was really mel well yeah like 29 that was that was not a cheap guitar yeah i mean i mean you know all things considered though it was 70s it was in the mid 70s so that was that was the medium price guitar that was you know yeah it wasn't don't tell your dad how much i got it might have been 140 bucks it was yeah it was a fortune for my mom i was going to say though that was very cool your mom to do that yeah so you know but yeah well but that's funny though because the the 12 string i would have never yeah that's i learned on the tour no wonder you got all this breach and stuff it's like you know i i i just i'd love to see you try to play stairway on that thing oh man bending that g the two g strings the first part of it down low yeah right i mean that's great it was brutal okay um next one for me would be um i had a amplifier that um i uh my dad had a music store and um cesar diaz was a friend of my dad's for years and um we lived in ohio he was from pennsylvania and he used to come to the store a lot and um i knew him for years and i got to the point where in the early 90s um he was making amplifiers he was making amplifiers for g smith and a whole bunch of other people at the time and david lindley and some other people i think and i always wanted one of his amps and and he was custom making all kinds of stuff at the time and i told him i said i said when i want a hundred basically a hundred watt kind of plexi-style amp uh marshall type thing actually not even a plexi i wanted more of an aluminum front style which is a little hotter front end more gain yeah and um i said you know i said i really want to order one from you i said you know how long would he take and he said well he said i'm on backward right now but he said you know probably about a year and i said okay well let me save some money up and i'll get one so he sent me a brochure which i still have which is kind of cool and um he was a really funny guy caesar was a real nut job dude he was he was something else you know and uh he was through everyone's tech and it was cool because he i learned a lot from caesar he showed me all kinds of stuff that was you know inside stuff you know which was real cool so he made me the sam oh and by the way i don't hate stevie ray vaughan i don't know why people think people say in the comments all the time rick why do you hate stevie ray vaughan he's like i love stevie ray vaughan i have no idea i mean it was kind of the same thing with i got well why don't you talk about roy gallagher it's like i love roy gallagher i love johnny winner i get that too rory don't worry we'll mention it we've got to do some more okay so we're so we're talking about this i i love stereo i supposed to iran twice i mean i knew caesar i mean i yeah i mean i invented strats forever i mean yeah i was a huge fan okay all right so what was okay what was special about this so i saw i had had him build this amp and it was a cd 100 which was a you know he was the only one he was just him in his shop he didn't have a production line so every amp was hand built and so um at the time he had just um the band live had called him and found out about his amsterd smith i think and um they ordered uh two cd 100 heads like mine and i wanted red tolex on mine so i told him i said i and he had rolls of this really cool old red tolex that he got from jim marshall when he went to the marshall factory and they're in the mid-80s and he went over there and jim just gave him this huge role tasted just taken he said nobody's ever going to use this nobody orders red tall x and you know and he was like oh great so he brought this role back from england and i knew he had that role and i said i said caesar you got to cover in that red tolex for me he was like yeah okay great man of the year he said you'll have the only one who has red well i get this call a little bit later from him and he said um well the band live they're going to be on snl they saw your amp on my bench and read tolex and they said we want red tolex you know or that's what he told me and he said um so i'm building them two half stacks or full stacks and there was two 412 cabinets in the head um and so i said well cool great he said well is there any way um i can they need three amps would you let them use your amp on snl to do the show so that everything is complete matches and all this stuff and i said yeah as long as they don't blow it up i'm cool with that so they it was on snl when live played some looking at these cool shots and and what was great was caesar um used to give g smith amp so you would see diaz amps in the shots in and out sometimes um you know going to commercial and so that helped his business by a ton and so it was cool to see all diaz amps on that one particular show that night and wait where is this amp now dave so so i get this i get the head i love the amp i used it quite a bit and then i started to realize one it weighed a ton because the transformers were huge yeah and i really couldn't open it up very much and it was it had a master volume but it you had to crank it i mean it was that type amp um it's the same amp that warren haynes uses you ever see him live he's got that thing dimed out um so it just became a thing where it was it was just too much i couldn't use it at the time and i don't know why but i found a bc rich eagle oh geez uh koa eagle that i wanted really bad it was a nice guitar um so i just said all right well i'll send the head up to you i'll keep the cabinet and i'll send the head so i traded this this caesar diaz oh my goodness well because you got okay this is like my brother i know but you gotta understand okay one he was still alive so the season was still around so i figured well you know i can call him up and get another one he's still got more reptiles if i really want i can you know and there was one or two things about the amp i actually wanted to change so i was going to send it back to him and modify modified anyway so i think well maybe i'll just buy another one you know well of course i sell the amp i get the bc rich and then like eight months later caesar died yeah and so i was instant and the thing about it is he signs every amp inside well in the inside of this amp it's signed it was built for me it says built for dave honorado caesar diaz so it's signed inside the amp i don't know where the amp is but somebody has if anyone out there knows where this amp is yes i can tell you the whole history about it okay so this next piece of gear for me oh by the way the bc rich i ended up selling because i needed rent okay so the next amp the next thing i have is an amp but it's a complete it's a full half stack and it was it was in i bought it from dave well i got it yeah i got it from yeah from i got it from dave at this place midtown music which was the best music store here in atlanta years ago and it was a white custom 100 high watt and um just beautiful how many of those did they make dave i ordered the amp in that color and it was i know there's less than ten i think there was five with the cabinets and the head okay so so i will say i don't know why i sold this i don't know who i sold it to i don't know i you saw okay okay okay this is i i'm i am a little bit obsessive compulsive i'll tell you why one thing that bugged me this is okay i know what you're gonna say all right go ahead okay i got some amp with rubber feet on it and it got it stained the tolex on the 412 cab and i obsessed about that i tried everything i could to get that out and i freaked out about it and i want i just wanted to get rid of it i remember because i knew i was like it's those rubber feet it has to be yeah i i got so mad someone actually put it some idiot in a band put it on my put their amp with rubber feet on my white toelex and and marked it up and it was impossible to go out no i i do remember there was a little brown round marks yeah and it i don't know man dave i've freaked out at that it to me that the amp became worth it no delicate genius i can't deal with it i couldn't it was so pristine the the heads well yeah fine well you bought a news yeah it was brand new i i don't know man because i came over and i was like where's the white highway you're like oh i sold that i'm like and of course i'm thinking he's joking i shipped i sold the pieces separately i think because i i kept the cabinet for a couple without about a year or so that's even worse i know and then i saw the camera i remember i shipped the cabinet i sold it on ebay and i actually got a box for that i took that in a box cost you probably 300 it did i totally didn't i lost my i mean oh well i sold it for here's the thing about it okay one it took eight months to get that out right because when we ordered it they were so backwards they were back ordered um they were way behind in production and the custom colors were more money they and the faceplates matched the tolex so you're they had to custom make those this was uh in the early 2000s yeah it was a white complete white hundred with the matching cabinet everything we had uh white red and then the union jack um british flag one yeah and i was the one who put the order dave was david cause i worked for this music store i actually had bought another amp yeah from there a custo it was a it was a highway 2040 i think it was called they had a switch on it yeah and that one i traded in at guitar center i have no idea i think as i was broke and the guys told me the next week that joe walsh came in 10 minutes after i left played through it and bought the amp so my fifth one was uh i had me and my dad had a 1954 strat um first first month of production and it was number 22 strat ever made so it was this was before they actually serialized them on the neck plate they actually serialized the first hundred on the tremolo cover the plastic tremolo cover and it was look what they used like a little stamp but it kind of looked like a typewriter and it was like zero one two two you know on this little plastic plate the plate was still there it was totally intact um the guitar was basically still kind of a prototype prototype type thing because the tremolo arm was longer than a normal one the uh end of the tip wasn't plastic it was actually metal that had been dipped in white paint okay um and then what was really cool is it was a hex screw on the back of where the bar where you would normally screw the bar in there was a hex screw on the bottom but you would tighten it down and the bar wouldn't move um one piece ash really grained out ash body 210 sunburst guitar was really clean and what was amazing was that we got the original amp with it the 115 basement that went with it the thermometer case and the zip cover that went around the thermometer case so we owned the 22nd strat ever made that one went to um a big collector uh dealer in new york uh louga tannis who's still around um he no longer has the guitar but he ended up with it i think it went to a big collection after that um so that one was a big one um you know we didn't sell it for the rent but it was how much would that guitar be worth now with the entire package with the amp everything probably that early uh it's it's hard to say i mean i i think to the right guy would be probably a hundred thousand dollars are you know with the amp and the cover in the case so so i'm complaining about losing a 140 guitar we didn't we didn't sell it for a hundred grand i mean at the time i think that guitar got sold for in the neighborhood of probably five thousand dollars okay so yeah thank god yeah no no it was you know i mean there's other kids we had two broadcasters we had a 58 burst we had an explorer i mean there's other guitars believe it but that one as far as significant i mean geez man that's you know it's basically a prototype you know okay so we want to know what gear you sold that you regret and 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Published: Tue Aug 03 2021