Corey Taylor | Slipknot, CMF2, Stone Sour

[Music] foreign Stars take Southwest well I mean I do I I don't know I don't I wouldn't even necessarily call myself a rock star I'm a you know icon on a budget is what I like to call it you know I I got better uses for my money than you know a comfy seat for an hour it's like give me a [ __ ] break we got to talk about this all right hello beautiful human I'm Zach uh that is Dan and I can't believe uh that Corey Taylor is in the studio I drove here too man oh that [ __ ] I didn't well I didn't walk here they led me but you know I got I got her myself I'm pretty proud of it like you rented a car I rented a car yeah yeah I got like a third hand X2 that has no HDMI thing in it so like my my phone's dying I'm reading I'm like don't you die before it's like panicking man I'm just okay but you definitely have a lot of money yeah well no hold on I'm not rich I'm well to do how about that that's you know because You Are by all senses of the definition an icon on a budget we discussed this I mean yeah and is there a reason that's deeper than just wanting to save a penny as to why you choose to do things yourself and Fly Southwest and rent a car yourself when you really could have had just a driver pick you up well I don't know it's a good question I mean probably because I'm from Iowa yeah I'm so used to driving myself and doing everything anyway you know it's like if we had asked people to do that for us back in the day we probably would have got like when we had landed in Des Moines there'd been people going really really and then they just kicked the [ __ ] out of us and we go home going oh fine all right um no I mean it's just that's the way you grow up you you you drive yourself you shop for yourself you handle things yourself you pay your own bills you take care of your family like that's just what you're you're what you're supposed to do you know just because I [ __ ] make music and I dance around on stage like a dick doesn't mean I'm better than anybody else that is true yeah right like it's the people who are up their own ass that give me [ __ ] gas let's put let's put it that way it's that's people like that that make this this whole real life discussion so amazing it's like you drive your own car I'm like well of course I do like what the [ __ ] man it's like just because I'm like you know I've done some [ __ ] doesn't mean I've lost the ability [ __ ] drive around the city on my own dude you should see it when I'm I had a dude today I was standing in line to get on my Southwest flight and he goes what are you doing here I was like I mean what are you doing here yeah we're about to take a [ __ ] plane you know it's I love that it shocks people because they don't expect it like they think that everybody wakes up in a glass container and they rise up and six people come out and bathe them with [ __ ] bikini oil or something like some people do have original well no I'm the [ __ ] they're just ridiculous [Laughter] how do you maintain your voice I honestly dude I don't know to be honest I I think part of its genetic I'm just a little interesting it snaps back a little faster I mean not as quickly as it used to obviously because I'm [ __ ] pushing death but um you know I I don't drink anymore I don't smoke I try to eat as well as I can you know while also maintaining a big fat ass I drink copious amounts of coffee I just try I exercise I drink tons of water obviously I live in Las Vegas the great Kiln so I have to drink tons of water I think it's just a little bit of you know uh genetic and I think it's a little bit of Maintenance well yeah what point did you realize that it was a genuine instrument that took care oh no I've known that since day one man like you because when you're a singer all the problems fall on you you know like the guitar players can change their strings the drummers can change their sticks or their heads or whatever if you're on stage and you sound like a frog that's being hit with a [ __ ] Hammer I mean there's no hiding you're just like having a bad night tonight guys you know I mean it's it's what you just kind of have to deal with it you know the thing for me is the best thing that I've ever learned is how to get by with with a sore throat or when I'm sick or you know when I'm dealing when I'm having to deal with like allergies or weirdness I mean because you just never know it's very temperamental and when you're you know especially when I was drinking and smoking it was a little harder to maintain you know I mean there was a different Timbre to it but for the most part if you took care of yourself to the best of your ability you could get through a tour you could get through this you could get through that and you know kind of running the Gambit like that boot training I learned how to kind of I don't want to say cheat but to get by on it you know so I wouldn't have to cancel shows I hate canceling shows so for me as I've gotten older I've learned not to panic if my voice is feeling weird you know if there's a certain I know there's a certain quality to my scream and a way that I can slide between the scream and my my melodic that when it's working really well it feels very natural and when it's not there I have to manipulate it and I have to kind of go to the the the Playbook and and figure out how to get through it but it's taken years to figure that out your grandma really give shows you rock and roll but how do you realize that you can make screaming sound pleasing I tell you what man I didn't really know that I could scream until I joined Slipknot because I was a I was a punk kid you know so I was I was a pumpkin before yeah Dwight Stone Sour yeah but Stone Sour wasn't nearly as heavy as it was when we reformed it and I kind of did that out of necessity because of the music that we were writing at the time they kind of melded the old stuff with the new stuff basically um when when Stone Sour first started it was it was heavy-ish but it was definitely more of like a sound garden kind of uh Pearl Jam Metallica Vibe you know what I mean like it had elements of that there were no screaming but I was still very animate are animated excuse me I you know I went for it as hard as I could you know so we Stone Sour and Slipknot were the two big dogs in town you know and largely because of me like because of the show that I would put on the songs that I was writing uh what we were able to do as a band everything was really starting to kind of click and then Slipknot came along and there were just this whole other Beast that I loved you know um but it wasn't until I joined Slipknot that I even attempted that voice um I knew that I could go aggressive but I had never like pushed it you know Andy their original singer was so [ __ ] good dude like his growl was some of the deepest [ __ ] that I've ever heard I mean it was and still to this day is really good but he didn't have that extra level that I could go to so I really kind of learned from him and tried to kind of marry my style to what he was doing what is this story there because you joined that band pretty early on I joined in 97 they had been together for about two years we had actually done shows together Stone Sour and Slipknot um we all knew each other and like I said we were like the two big big big gigs in town and Slipknot was really starting to get some traction uh they came to me and they were just like look man we want to make it we want to be the one of the you know we want to get signed we want a tour we want the dream is that what you want and I was the guy in Stone Sour that did all of that [ __ ] you know like I was the one out missing Lollapalooza because I was flying you know like I was the one you know going down and having tapes duplicated and printing out the the cassette you know inserts and cutting them out myself and stuffing them and walking dude I sold that [ __ ] door to door basically you know I mean that's what I was doing so they saw that Not only was I the guy in the band on stage but I was also the guy behind the scenes working his ass off um and that's not to say that anybody else in Stone Sour wasn't but I was the one that was driven I was so driven and because they saw that they came to me and they were like we want you to give us that extra element because I was the best in town so when I first joined it was me and Andy and he was doing because he had been singing main main vocals and playing percussion so when he wasn't playing clown would take over and Andy would sing uh so he went to like more of a backup thing and would play percussion and I was handling like the majority of like the main vocals but and I can't blame him for this it wasn't enough for Andy you know like he wanted to be a singer man he wanted to be the guy he wanted to be the man you know and because of the way that it was handled and I don't know a lot of the politics behind it because at the time I was you know the new guy so I didn't get a lot of that story I know that it rubbed Andy the wrong way and I was one of the first to go to him and apologize because I want and I wanted to try and keep it together and I was like is there any way we can make this work and he said dude it's not you it's like this is some [ __ ] that's been coming for a minute and this just made my mind up for me he's like I wish you all the luck I wish you everything but I'm gonna go do my thing and that's one of the reasons why he and I still talk let's dissect something here for a sec because you've said before that Slipknot is a bunch of people who are in friends whereas Stone Sour is a bunch of people who are friends right but there's a difference in the trajectory of the two groups obviously because you leave one to go to the other but there was something that was pulling you to to Slipknot you know it was the it was the frenetic energy of it it was the fact that it was so different than anything I'd ever heard man I mean when the the first time I saw Slipknot it was literally the the night uh before we were playing the same Club and first of all they didn't even walk on stage they walked through the audience they came through us all in Mass [ __ ] awesome I mean it was the craziest [ __ ] I'd ever seen here I was standing up front going what in the [ __ ] is about to happen I because nobody they hadn't played any music for anybody they hadn't done anything and then all of a sudden here they come dude it was a [ __ ] force of Nature and you could feel the hunger on that stage you could feel the intensity I mean they were right [ __ ] here dude and I I was just and I'd never done this before and I've never done it since I remember I was standing there and I said I'm gonna be the singer for this band and literally a year later is when they asked me like it was crazy dude I was blown away I'd so it what it was about them was the fact that I wanted to try it because I loved the music I'd never done anything that gnarly before but I knew that there was something in me that needed that music so I could unleash that voice you know what I mean what is it like entering into a group with a bunch of really intense creatively driven human beings and not only do you have to be the face of it right you want you have to now inject your own thoughts and creativity into a process that has existed years prior right the great thing about that band is from from the jump they told me they were like you're going to be the face you're going to be the voice before you know any other band that you you get into there's usually that war like jockeying for the position but they all they for they told me from day one it's like you're gonna be the front man so you need to handle it now looking back on it it's almost funny because Joey was a front man and clown is clearly a front man you know so they all kind of took their position and became another kind of four but there were so many people in the band you almost need 300 at that point you know um but everybody kind of had their thing they allowed me to find myself before we actually hit you know what I'm saying because like I said I'd never done music like that before so right up until we went in to the studio to make the first album I was still discovering who I was in that band because for years I was you know Corey from slip or from Stone Sour I was you know the guy who you know had all this talent but nobody sees it you know it wasn't until I got into Slipknot that it was that's Corey this is the [ __ ] that he went through when he was a kid this is the [ __ ] that he's had to deal with his whole life this is the [ __ ] that you know I didn't know about but I relate to it I didn't know about it but I relate to it it took me time to find that you know and those guys encouraged me to do it which I'd never felt before you know like there had never been a dynamic like that in a band that I'd ever been a part of it was always you know you're either going to be the boss or you're going to know your place and it was like [ __ ] that [ __ ] you know that that's not how you that's not how a collective Works totally and at the end of the day you all are representative of that brand exactly and it's all of you I think it helped also that we were fans of each other's work you know we respected each other exactly man and the respect was totally there and there was never a doubt you know there was not one person in that band that was a [ __ ] slouch even the people who came and went you see that's like like-minded people right Real Recognize is real you could be successful with a group of people and not necessarily need to call them friends well and that's the thing you know I know that that quote has been taken and run with for a lot of people but what people don't realize is that there's something so much more than friends you know what I mean like the the guys in Slipknot it it's family that's like that's so much deeper than just a friendship you know I'm in bands with people who I'm friends with those people but we're not close you know what I mean like family's different exactly and that's and that's the real difference like when we get on the road with slip knot it takes us a second to kind of knock the rust off of our relationships the playing always just kicks right in like we've I've never seen a band like slip knot where rust just does not stick to us for some reason I mean we can walk on stage with literally no rehearsal and we sound like we've been touring for two weeks three weeks I mean it's incredible I've never seen it's meant to be exactly but that means that something has to have work and that's where the relationships in the band have come that that's what we've really had to work on is embracing each other for who we are and not who we want each other to be you know what I'm saying like that's and that's psychosocial behavior and that's where that term came from because that's when we really started to talk about trying to get on another level we were like we had all spent so much time pushing against each other or pushing at pushing away from each other that we forgot all the great [ __ ] that we had done together and that we appreciated about one another and that to me at least was where I really tried to change my ways and change the things that I said and my approach to how I you know appreciate everybody did The Masks also affect how the success because you guys are all hiding behind this thing it's like people are just staring at your face the whole time a little bit you know I mean it definitely took the impetus off of it for a second but at the same time The Masks were never uh a wall it was that was our our way to connect with the audience you know I in a weird way we we I think our mindset was I don't even know if people would connect with us with our just regular faces you know you would need this mask to really understand what the [ __ ] going on in this music because it's so crazy you know so at least for me my connection to the music has always been through the mask like when I put that mask on it allows me to unleash that person who I kind of keep at Bay for normalcy and it allows me to kind of use that voice that I need you know it's that it's that pressure valve to be able to you know kind of tap and and let it off but do you feel like you're getting the same thing out of your audience like they come to your shows for the exact same stuff yeah I mean well there's definitely a difference between a stone sour audience a solo audience whether it's electric or acoustic in that respect and a slipknot audience I don't think they would want that human aspect because for them that mat my mask is their mask in a in a weird way you know that's from day one we encouraged people to create their own mask and bring it to shows you know it's like [ __ ] that skin that you have to drag around put on your face and get out you know and come to a show and and be yourself now we realize what that that message actually is is don't be ashamed of who you are where that person on the inside on the outside and [ __ ] what everybody thinks that's cool I'm actually really powerful I mean it's incredibly powerful it's it's one of the things that we've always tried to lead with and maybe it's because we're from Iowa and because I mean we were judged for so [ __ ] long about who we were I mean we were all I mean we came from The Fringe and what we represented was something that to this day is still anathema to a lot of people in Iowa they're a lot of people in Iowa were that are very ashamed of the fact that Slipknot comes from there and it's because of this newfound Resurgence and conservative [ __ ] it's you know that's as as much as Iowa when I was there was a purple State it's very red now and and there's a lot of people who I know who are not happy about it it's just like where the where where's all the progress that we [ __ ] made over the last 30 years for [ __ ] sake isn't it crazy to think that like people would be disappointed in the fact that Slipknot has come from Iowa that just makes sense not if you come from there not if you know the people there's a lot of [ __ ] dicks who still live in Des Moines Iowa that are so mad I know dudes that I've known for 30 years I run into them and they give me this they side-eyed me hard really oh [ __ ] yeah dude there's so many bitter Pricks in that goddamn town and and they're just hanging on you know like they just don't want to accept the fact they they didn't want it as much as we did you know and I'm not going to sit here and say that they didn't deserve it because there were a lot of great bands in this in the in this scene that we came out of but for whatever reason they didn't push hard enough and even when we did make it and we tried to shine that Spotlight on the Des Moines scene because it was almost in a weird way like a pseudo Seattle moment there was a lot of people kind of you know trolling through uh Des Moines to try and find the next slip knot everybody who we tried to help blew it they just didn't [ __ ] want it as much as we did you know I mean we would have lived and died for the [ __ ] and these guys just thought it was a crumb do you think that's the difference between somebody who makes it and somebody who doesn't I think it's part I think it's part of it you know I mean I'm not going to deny the fact that a lot of its luck you know what I mean we were the right band at the right time there was something about us that appealed to us or to appeal to people people liked my voice people liked the music people liked the the incredible energy of it so the work ethic the talent but look had a lot to do with it man so I I don't know it was like weird witch's brew that you just don't you don't know why it's so [ __ ] good but it is you know uh but I know that had we not worked as hard as we did and had we not been as good as we were we wouldn't have had a third of what we have today how were you making records in the studio like how does it start does it start with a story does it start with people jamming like what was that I mean a lot of it especially in the the first album man it came from we would start [ __ ] with something in in Clown's basement and we would just almost worry at it like a dog with a bone we would just keep [ __ ] with it and [ __ ] with it and [ __ ] with it and then someone else would have like if we couldn't get past that riff somebody else would go wait I've got something try this and it would I mean it was very organic man like I remember Mick started [ __ ] around with the uh the beginning for surfacing and we thought it was so cool that we we just we just ripped on that for like a good 10 minutes just just kind of [ __ ] with it and I think it was Joey had the idea for the main riff you know and he was just like do this but then really lay into the top of the Riff don't just go and you know you know Joey was like you gotta you gotta dig you go and that's why it sounds so different it's like it's not enough to just have the open and the one you gotta give it that flare and then between Mick and Paul they were the ones that kind of took it even further into that honestly that that Florida Vibe where it's just there's a Suffocation vibe to a lot of those Rifts that we kind of took and made our own you know what I mean like just though it was so it was always so much more than new metal even though we were included in that genre it was always we were hardcore we were death we were new metal but we were also you know just all of these other [ __ ] elements that we just kind of took and just fed it through the slip knot filter and that's how because there were no limits we just knew that we could get away with anything how do you explain or Define slipknot's impact on like history and culture oh dude I have no idea to be honest I mean it's so weird to this day when I see people whether it's in in just in normal life or I see people like one of Brad Pitt's kids was wearing a Slipknot hoodie and I was just like what the [ __ ] I mean it's a trip you know um we never thought that we would permeate the you know the Zeitgeist like this we always thought that we were going to be an underground band you know our whole goal was just to be a band that at the most could sell 250 300 CDs 300 000 CDs and then we could just be able to tour you know that was our [ __ ] ceiling and then you know God wouldn't ruin that [ __ ] for us man I so I you know I love the fact that we have infiltrated different parts of movies music Comics art I mean everything and we've been we've influenced so many different Styles people with different styles whether it's country or hip-hop or you know death metal I mean we've we've really inspired so many people and for whatever reason I you know I'm I'm very proud of that you know and I'm also proud of the fact that we're still here at us sir at this level that you know I would have never expected I mean if you'd have told me this you know 15 years ago I'd have laughed in your [ __ ] face dude it's like you're still doing it after how many years and you're still selling out Arenas and you know doing stadiums with your own [ __ ] Festival I've no not for us I'm still tripping on it do you know why uh no I don't I really don't I mean I I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm stoked about it you know and maybe it's one of those things like I don't want to know they don't want to know I don't want to figure it out because then maybe I'll Chase it you know and I don't want to chase it I've never tried to chase an idea or a trend or something that didn't come from my own head and I would rather appreciate it than try to understand it that's really healthy I mean but is that a mindset shared with the band I think so you know well I mean clown the great thing about everybody in the band and maybe this is the key we're we're never turned back around looking at what we've done we're always facing ahead looking at what's next you know we just wrapped up our contract with Roadrunner you know and now all we're thinking about is what do we do you know like nobody's panicked nobody's freaking out we all just started talking about you know possibly going old school and writing an album in in the room again like sex see what [ __ ] happens and I'm like [ __ ] yeah dude I mean because we've all done the part and parcel writing you know we've done it um you know technology has made it very easy to do and that and there's nothing wrong with it especially if you get the the basis of the demo and then you get everything everybody in the same room and then you work on it as a band it can give it that organic Vibe but there's a wholly different energy that comes from collaborating in the room because then every accident is a gift every [ __ ] like skip of something is like oh do that again you know there's I mean people forget just how exciting that can be you know when a mistake becomes the main riff and you're just like oh where the [ __ ] did that come from you know that's the stuff that still gets us excited you know it's like what's going to be next and because of that we've really never done any celebratory [ __ ] you know like the 20th or the 25th or the 30th like any of that stuff we are just now starting to talk about doing something to celebrate the first album you know next because next year is the 25th anniversary which [ __ ] with my head and but we but we haven't figured out what that is yet they're like no solid plans um we all were taking a break because we've been touring for two years straight I'm firing up my solo thing for cmf2 but right now next year is is kind of open for slip knot what are you taking with you from your last two bands that besides your voice right that you're applying to cmft which by the way you can listen to on Amazon music Link in the description below um I mean honestly this is just me leaning into my inner singer songwriter to be honest because honestly since I was a kid that's all I've really wanted to be is just write songs that then I can play for people that's I and that's as as it says it's as simple as a it's ever been you know do I enjoy being a front man yes do I enjoy you know playing live 100 do I love the studio and I love being creative and weird and yeah of course but to me if the song isn't there don't even talk to me I don't I don't care you know there's a reason why I release the stuff that I release and it's because all the [ __ ] that I don't like I don't release everything I put out is the stuff that I want you to hear that I love and that I'm proud of after that do with it what you will and that's all that a singer-songwriter does is they toil and they worry at that [ __ ] song until they know it's perfect and for me that's what it's all about is writing a song that will entertain that gets stuck in somebody's head and that will be just fun to play Live you know so that's what cmft and cmf2 kind of represents no matter the genre whether it's heavy or you know the kind of Irish Country stuff that I write uh the punk stuff that I've you know finally been able to kind of do it's because I love those Styles but I also love writing songs and I know that when I write something it's going to naturally generate that sort of genre that I can hear in my head and with cmft I can [ __ ] do anything you know whereas with Slipknot is kind of a very specific Vibe with this I can do anything and if people don't like it fine that's that's I'm not going to stop doing it it's not for them exactly it's for me because if I don't get to do that I'll [ __ ] lose my mind I that for so many reasons makes a project like that the most personal now right yeah oh 100 you know so and maybe it's because slipknot's such a collective it's just you exactly and I don't have to worry about being the boss but with with this man I mean I'm the main songwriter I'm I'm the one who I you know I put my band together even though they're friends they're they were they were specifically picked because I know they can play anything and they are the very best at what they do um I co-produced it with Jay Rustin I designed the [ __ ] artwork I have written all of the videos like it all comes from my brain so it's very very personal to me and it's very important you know almost to the point where I have to kind of make myself back off because if I don't include the hubris it will trigger something in me that's ugly so explain that well I mean it's I'm an addict I always I have been for you know 25 years now I don't drink I don't do drugs I don't smoke I don't really do anything anymore except for coffee um and there's a reason that I tend to go crazy when I'm on certain chemicals is because my ego has a tendency to blow the [ __ ] up and if I and I know that's something that I don't want it makes me feel like [ __ ] when I lean into those moments and alcohol allows me to lean in those moments and I don't want it in my life you know so I try to rein in certain parts of that now you have to have a healthy ego to be able to do this and do it well and I appreciate that and I've embraced it and I've tried to get because there's also that flip side to that douchebag coin where it's just like oh I have no ego you know it's nothing it's [ __ ] it's that's in itself tireless [ __ ] exactly so I have to be honest and go yes I'm an attention [ __ ] and I love the attention however there's only a certain amount of it that I want because I like the fact that I have a normal life I like the fact that my kids aren't dicks I like the fact that my wife and I really like each other and care about each other I like the fact that I don't have people camped outside my [ __ ] house I like the fact that I can walk into a target with my daughter and buy her school clothes and maybe only one or two people bother me I love that because that to me that's my life I like the fact that I can step into this superhero role do my thing and step right out man and that's fine and that's because I don't need it for those reasons I don't need the attention I like the fact that I can create and I get the attention for that and then I pull back then what's fueling your personal stuff is it more of your the life I mean oh dude listen I'm still a very angry [ __ ] there's still a lot of [ __ ] that pisses me off I hate the fact that we live in a [ __ ] world where there are no facts they're just [ __ ] crazy people with websites and [ __ ] social media trying to make themselves sound smart by encouraging conspiracy [ __ ] theories because they're tired of elitist Pricks making them feel like [ __ ] because they don't know enough that's what that whole [ __ ] thing has happened so that alone I could write 12 [ __ ] concept albums on that [ __ ] you know there's always going to be things that inspire me real life is always going to throw [ __ ] at you I'm also somebody who deals with depression have since I was a kid I deal with physical depression which is a whole other [ __ ] level um I deal with the PTSD from the abuse that I [ __ ] dealt with when I was a kid I deal with the urges of addiction I deal with just normal [ __ ] I deal with the fact that for [ __ ] eight years I was married to the wrong woman and it sucked and it was a very toxic relationship and it ate a part of me that I don't know if I'll ever get back yeah is that a regret you carry I can't regret it because we have a daughter together and we I think at this point we both realized that it was a big mistake it ended very ugly but we both love our daughter and because of that we're able to communicate and we try to keep a lot of that away from her you know what I mean ah it's changed the way I look at life you know what I mean like because one wrong one wrong you know decision and then you wake up one day and you're like I don't know who the [ __ ] I am you know I mean and it's bad man it will twist you out to the point where when you get away from it you are now this psychotic ball of emotion that is just trying to figure out what gives you Joy now you know what I mean and that's one of the reasons why I'm not on social media anymore is because I did a deep dive on social media and slipped into some habits that I wasn't proud of you know what I mean instead of you know because as someone who is at a certain level you can't really go to bars or date or whatever it's very easy to [ __ ] slip into DM [ __ ] you know and that's what I did for you know probably about four months and at the end of it I was like I'm more miserable now than I was before I started [ __ ] doing this and that's where you kind of realize we're just like man I was so bereft of things in my life that I was looking for [ __ ] and I didn't still didn't find it probably just looking for a distraction well there were a lot of distractions out there you know what I mean and yeah obviously I didn't hurt anybody and I didn't do anything like that it wasn't gnarly gnarly but it was enough that I wasn't proud of myself you know what I'm saying and when I stepped back and realized that I was just like okay I need to start looking in and start looking out because until then I'm not going to be any use for anybody you know and that's when I started going back to therapy started talking about it started you know kind of putting the pieces of myself back together and it was a [ __ ] arduous process man are you using your solo projects to manage any of this I mean a little bit you know I mean I mean the great thing with slip knot is I can just go you know and it's all [ __ ] there you know but then cmfc is more about the subtleties you know what I mean because you can have the same conversation but with slip knot it's a little darker and it's a little easier to kind of get rid of those toxicities with cmft there's a Melancholy that you can kind of lean into a little more and a solemnness that maybe can kind of go either way whether it's you know the the positive or the negative it's also great that I can write real songs for people like my wife I can write songs about my kids you know I mean it's I don't it doesn't have to be gnarly 24 7. it can be just you know I want to write a song for my wife I want to sing the song that I sang for her the day we got married you know like that's the stuff that cmft provides it's special though it is yeah uh yeah I didn't know but you uh had a really intense collection of Spider-Man figurines oh you gear yeah very yeah right yeah I mean at this point in my life I can look back and go was that just another addiction yeah that's kind of what I'm thinking yeah I mean but at the same time part of that was triggered from the fact that when I was growing up I was we were very poor so I didn't have a lot of toys man so and I the thing the toys that I did have I cherished you know so when I got some what I call coin of the realm I went and I indulged myself in a lot of this stuff like I bought it wasn't just action figures I bought a ton of comics um I went and collected like every [ __ ] movie that I could think of I bought a [ __ ] ton of books like I fed those beasts you know whereas some people buy cars and houses and [ __ ] I was you know I was affordable in what I bought you know I wasn't trying to buy you know the you know the million dollar copy of Amazing Fantasy number 15. you know I wasn't doing that I was just like you know what I'll get the Repro you know it's five bucks I'll take that and I'll be able to read the first Spider-Man story because that's what Amazing Fantasy number 15 is the first appearance of Spider-Man so I was just you know indulging my geekness but what people don't realize is that I had started that collection before I even got signed like so I was you were working on it like when you were a kid though yeah I mean when I started well I started buying action figures when I was about 19 really you know I started kind of collecting them but when I got a steady when I had steady jobs I would set aside money for my rent and [ __ ] and then the rest of it I would basically spend on trying to I would go to like all these mom and pop shops I would drive hours around Iowa well that's one of the reasons why I don't do it anymore is because it's so easy to find that [ __ ] now before it was the hunt you know like you go and you're you're digging in the back of this [ __ ] dirt shop in the middle of [ __ ] off Iowa and you're like it's the [ __ ] you know it's the it's the Marvel Superheroes version of Venom that has the Slime that pops out of his [ __ ] face I don't have that one I found it you know like that to me was part of the love was the hunt do you still have your collection I have some of it and one of the reasons why I'm selling the the the larger uh the larger part of it is because uh someone who I knew who was actually watching my house for me was selling my [ __ ] out of my back yeah out of my back door the [ __ ] yeah so there are big pieces of my collection that I'll never have back and the sad thing is is because my collection was so big I'm not sure which ones are missing and after that it's kind of like when you have your car stolen and you get it back and you're just like you don't want anymore yeah well it's not you don't want it it's just it just doesn't dry it didn't feel the same you know it's like we're a little [ __ ] up and uh you know somebody probably ball bagged your seat you just never know you know so um have you had somebody like go into your collection like tag it all and I just randomize it I had it I had it all [ __ ] but I mean the great thing is with apps you can [ __ ] do anything these days so I had it all uh scanned in this action figure app that I had for Collectibles and then there was a glitch and it erased everything I had [ __ ] put in there and I just went so what I've done is I've pulled aside the stuff that means something to me which is really just a handful of it other than other than that everything else was just compulsion it was just like oh there's a new spider series I'm gonna get this when it got to like this Spidey aquaforce which was very weird like I was like at this point toy Biz will just put [ __ ] Spider-Man on anything I was like well maybe I don't need this but it's got Spiderman so I'll have to [ __ ] have it and once I got past that and then I had all of the McFarland stuff Movie Maniacs like one through seven and all your collection valued at I have no idea I don't know it's not really even about value for me it's just the collection I love it how big is it oh it's 40 boxes holy [ __ ] no 50 sorry that's my bad are they on display or no I used to have them on display and then I my it outgrew my house like I didn't know where to put so they're just inbox and that's another reason why I'm selling most of it is because they've just been sitting in boxes so how are you selling it a friend of mine say handling it uh he's actually right now starting to kind of put the the finishing touches on something that we're going to actually put up I think it's on eBay said I'm not sure because I was thinking about doing like an auction but then I was like yeah you know I did that with some guitars of mine a few years ago we were able to raise some money for charity and we did really well but then the action figures I tried to bring the action figures to them and they they only really cared about the ones that had value yeah I was like well that's not what this is you know this is about helping people maybe plug some holes in their collections or whatever because there's I've so [ __ ] I have the entire tick collection you know the tick yeah I have the whole collection and I bought them when they were out let's put it that way I'm a [ __ ] psychopath yeah it's awesome well you say awesome I say [ __ ] are you able to meet any of the designers and the like the people who create these comics and have them put this work into the mask I've met some man like all right yeah because I mean I'm such a I'm such a massive comic fan you know like I I was able to meet uh John romita Jr which was really [ __ ] cool you know I met some of my favorite writers uh I met Grant Morrison which was crazy I met uh Warren Ellis uh garthennis like I I've I've been able to kind of and I have the same feeling about those dudes that I do about my musical Heroes you know like it's and that's so when I meet them I'm like you know some [ __ ] total dick right but it's very it's very cool man um I I I'm just at this point I'm just I'm it's one of the things that I love the most about what I get to do is that I'm able to meet the people who inspired me and let them know how much they inspired me and that I appreciate it it's cool because there's not many people in this world that actually have the opportunity to like put something on and become a superhero to somebody else right right and it's like you're a fan of it but you also are that to so many people right yeah I mean it's I I love the fact that we're still inspiring people like that you know I've had so many people you know I guess Demi Lovato is a fan which I never knew I was like what okay but I mean people like jelly roll like they've gone out of their way to say something so I'm like well now I gotta hit him up and do a song with him yeah because I think that'd be [ __ ] cool and I'm the guy that if it interests me I'm gonna do it you know like I don't give a [ __ ] about money or anything like that like if we put something cool together let's [ __ ] try it what about a collaborations project I've been talking about that actually for a minute and it's you know it's something that I love to do and maybe it's because I'm never sure what people will think of the stuff that I write until I put it out that I've never taken a lot of the stuff that I write and try to have other people come and do like be on my stuff the first time I'd really done it was cmft must be stopped and even that song was supposed to be satire you know what I mean like the the record label heard that song and flipped out and I was like wait no this is this isn't supposed to be serious you know like this is supposed to be something fun and then people thought that the rest of the album was gonna sound like that and I just went ah for [ __ ] sake but the cool thing was I got to do a song with tech and with uh [ __ ] kid bookie so that to me is the best thing that came out of that song was the fact that I was able to do something with you know some good friends of mine and by the way like the product it hits different yeah yeah absolutely I mean but at the same time it's like if I did uh a collaboration thing I don't know what the [ __ ] it would be you know like because I have so many people that I would love to write with I mean I've been talking about doing a dark acoustic EP cool and having some friends come in uh I reached out to I've had people reach out to Frank Carter um I've I've talked to to nurgal from Behemoth um Duff I've hit up Duff he and I go way back man so it's just one of those things that I would love to do something with some people that I know some people who are friends of mine some people who inspire me like I would God man if I but my list is so big like I would love to do something with Elvis Costello Ani DeFranco like at this point it's just like I have a list of that I need to cross off and if I don't get it crossed off then you know what else do I do start Crossing I'm working I know right uh a cmf2 you can listen to it Link in the description below I have a couple questions about same F2 okay someday I'll change your mind right into all I want to say yeah couldn't be any more opposite right where does like someday I'll change your someday I'll change your mind come from so that's a song I wrote for my wife for her birthday okay and when I debuted uh was at her birthday party and I sat down at the piano and I I played some of it and I had all of her friends do the the woe part so it was almost like three-dimensional in a weird way and my wife just like bright red and she's just like [ __ ] you know and this is the second album the second the second album in a row that something I've written for her I've played for her live before I actually recorded it because on the first album on cmft the song home is actually the song I wrote for her and then I played for her at our wedding when we got married uh it was just she and I and we were out at uh the Valley of Fire and we just we just wanted something for us you know and you know I I played it for and you know it was just it was the first song I'd really ever written for her and I was able to play it on guitar but then I played it on piano because I was teaching myself how to play so then someday I'll change change your mind is based off of something that I had said to her when we first started dating um because there were definitely moments that were tense because of the things that I had just come out of you know so I was kind of I wasn't quite myself but I was trying to get there you know and she was just like you know there are times where I don't believe you when you say these things and I go well someday I'll change your mind you know and that line stuck with me and I wrote a song for that and that was you know to me the absolute antithesis to what all I want is hate was supposed to be but again it the song is satirical it's it's actually a reaction to one of my least favorite songs on the planet which was written by one of the greatest bands of all time so I don't know if you I don't know how what how big of a Beatles fan you are but they're first of all one of the best bands that ever lived yeah and what they did and what they accomplished in that short amount of time will never be replicated I don't give a [ __ ] what anybody [ __ ] says however All You Need Is Love is one of the biggest pieces of [ __ ] that I've ever heard in my life and every time I [ __ ] hear it I feel like I'm being shot at let's put it that way it's that bad so that song all I want is hate is actually a retort to that sauce so if you listen to my song It's a pseudo-reflection of that song So if you listen to the way that the original is is song and written listen to mine now and it's almost like it's yeah you just need to [ __ ] like check them out it's supposed to be like basically [ __ ] you this is this is how it's supposed to be is that why it's sung in the tone it's sung in yes it sounds like and that's why it starts with this weird kind of piss take of like the 60s like uh you know kind of exactly yeah interesting why do you hate all you need is love so much because it's saccharine hippie garbage is why this is [ __ ] you [ __ ] All You Need Is Love how about food oxygen too you know let's put some clothes on those kids all you need is love get the [ __ ] out of my face oh it is gas in my car let's write a [ __ ] song about that oh no I guess he got a point there thank you you can listen to uh cmf2 it was on music waiting for you it will not be anywhere near the Beatles Channel no but seriously though there is a link in the description below to listen to All of Cory's music including Slipknot stuff too so it's waiting for you there you go you did mention that when you're on the road with Slipknot you guys just kind of hop into it and you don't really need to knock the rust off I think yeah man yeah what's it like on tour now because you just toured without clown right yeah I mean that's tough man I mean and sadly it's not the first time we've had to to do it without certain people you know I mean we've had to tour over the years um I mean I remember Jim broke his wrist one time he was [ __ ] he was riding he was dirt biking or whatever so we had to do a whole tour without him while he was in a cast which was crazy um clown has had to sit out a handful of times because of you know tragedies in his life and whatnot and or the fact you know he's you know taking care of his family his wife um it's tough you know it's it's weird when you're up there yeah and not everybody's there you know it's the only thing I can attribute it to is if you tried to walk down the street just by hopping on one leg there's obviously something that's supposed to be there but if you're not allowed to use it then it doesn't feel right you're still getting there but it doesn't feel right the because we love the fans so much because we know that they would be crushed if we you know canceled we do our best to try to get there with or without everybody you know but a family is also having each other's backs well exactly and the bow out you're never not gonna exactly and for him it was a very gratifying feeling knowing that well of course we've got us back you know stay home take care of your family we'll handle it's fine and there was never going to be any animosity no guilt trips no [ __ ] because it's family first no matter what and by the way Family First at home but the family that you have on the road and that band is should have the ability to cover you for you and you don't feel a thing well exactly and that's something that we've really started to kind of realize again is that [ __ ] we do have each other's back you know no matter what you know the people in the band who didn't aren't in the Band anymore so can you attribute that to why you've been around for so long probably you know um it's that it's also the fact that we still care you know there are a lot of bands or there's some bands who have been able to achieve a certain level of success that just stop caring at some point and they write what I can only refer to as kind of going through the motions music you know it doesn't have it it it's kind of like the difference between uh Beyond burgers and real Burgers you know it's like ah it looks the same it's not quite the same you know not that one is better than the other it's just you know one is synthetic and when you see those bands you can instantly feel it you're just kind of like [ __ ] you know it's like it's up they're playing that going for a beer song better go for a beer you know so it's it's stuff like that that still inspires us to try and write and perform at a certain level you know now when we lose that maybe it'll be time to hang the mask up but until then I mean we're still all very committed to the level of you know creativity um a level of um Quality that we put into it you know even when we're not able to kind of record all at the same time we still care you know what I mean like it's it's important to us but will slip not always be slip knot as long as you're around like if there's eight other guys around you is it still slip knot I think as long as there are certain people in the band you know what I mean um because right now I mean we have this the we have six original people uh or no five excuse me yeah and those five we've kind of been the core for like the longest time you know what I mean um the people who we lost obviously we would do anything to have them back but you kind of you kind of get on with it if you know when it comes down to stuff like that um I think if I think if any more people left it it wouldn't be the same you know I know I've said in the past that you know somebody could replace me if I physically couldn't do it um and I've had the guys in the pan kind of push back on that and go Taylor shut the [ __ ] what are you talking about and I'm like Hey listen to me Slipknot is a state of mind you know slip knot is a is an emotion it's a it's it's something in your soul that you have to have if what if there was a kid out there who had that same kind of ferocity he didn't have and had the same chops man you know like nobody could do what Chester Bennington could do and like I don't think anybody can really do what you can do there's a reason you guys I mean thank you for I appreciate that but at the same time I don't know I it's if let's just if this band wanted to continue without me and if I couldn't do it I would go I would do everything I could to help it continue well because the mission of slipknots bigger than you exactly and that's and I guess that's what I'm trying to say is that if I just couldn't give to it the same level that I wanted to you know it's that it's the old adage you know the the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak if that were the case then I would 100 help them find a replacement and give them my blessings to go out there you know now I'm still pretty spry you know I'm like I'm not dead yet but you know um I've probably got another 10 years of touring like this you know five to ten so as long as that's the case I'll still be here I'll still be doing it um but you know but if it ever came down to making people choose between you know me and Slipknot I mean I I would totally push them back out there to get out there you know when you're on stage like you were talking about the big family do you ever look back and still think you're gonna see Joey back there look to the left to right and think you're gonna see the Pig I mean they're definitely moments where especially during certain songs that I remember little moments that me and Joey would have yeah you know and we would always kind of look at each other and we'd [ __ ] make each other laugh you know other times where you know Paul Jesus Christ dude he was just so ridiculous I've never seen a person more late for everything in my life I mean he would just but he was oh but he was never like late late he was always just on time you know it's like there's 60 seconds in that last minute that he was gonna [ __ ] push it right up to like 59 you know and then what I'm here it's fine I'm like oh you [ __ ] you know um you could always tell you could always tell when Paul was coming back out on stage because you'd always see the cigarette smoke blowing from right around the the the um the set cards and then here he comes and he'd be pulling it because he'd be cheese in a bow between every song dude like he'd smoke a whole [ __ ] pack during his set and then he'd always just be and then pull his mask down and walk back out and I was like dude you can't go a whole show without just saying he's just like he's like why should I singing get your [ __ ] ass out there and I'm like you prick but I always knew where I could go to bum yeah it's so cool to be able to look back and just have those memories with those guys I mean and that's the [ __ ] you cherish man you know obviously there were there were bad times but there were so many good times man and that's you know when when you get to that kind of point in your life that's the [ __ ] that you look at you know I mean people talk about rose-colored glasses but it's also appreciation for what you've helped to you know make you know like if it wasn't for them we wouldn't have been able to do half the [ __ ] that we did man so I just I love the fact that I got to spend that time with them yeah I mean you got kids that have never heard a Slipknot song wearing Slipknot t-shirts right it must be crazy to see that don't you owe it to them to keep Slipknot alive right well I mean that's part of it you know I mean when you're responsible for something that is even bigger than you are yeah like uh like we were talking about to me it would almost be selfish to be like you know what you can't continue if if I'm not there you know like it's it's God that can you hear my stomach Jesus Christ it sounds like an air siren going off like right it's like like [ __ ] I'm so sorry it's like here I'm in this heartfelt you know answer and officer like there's a cow dying inside me um no man it's I mean so much about Slipknot is so big at this point man that I mean it's it's a genre into itself it's an institution to itself it's got its own Festival it's got its own website it's got its own life beyond all of this you know like I don't know if I would want it to stop if I wasn't in it you know what I mean like I would want it to go on that doesn't mean that I would stop making music you know like I just if I physically couldn't rise to that Slipknot level I wouldn't want to hold it back you know what I mean that's what it comes down to I would never want to limit the memory of of what people want when they expect something from it you know sure there's a band out there I won't name them but when they get on stage now I'm like guys it's time to time to pack it up I mean there are many of those bands dude and it pains me like there's so many and there are some bands that can physically do it and they just don't yeah you know and you're just like yeah just stop all of Cory's music and slipknot's music waiting for you on Amazon music Link in the description below final thoughts very last question on your solo shows when did you start covering the Spongebob theme song [ __ ] man like I that was a one-off dude like I learned that for Griffin like when he was 10 he was he was like the biggest SpongeBob fan so I vicariously became a massive SpongeBob fan because he was watching it all the time and I was like this Show's really good so when I first started doing um acoustic shows because I was promoting my books I learned it because I knew Griff was going to be there yeah and I had him come up on stage and I was like okay we're all gonna sing a song are you ready he's just like I mean he's a little little you know he's got his glasses on he looked like the kid from [ __ ] Jerry Maguire like that's what he looked like right little toe head weird like little tough you know and he is just you know and it was in Birmingham in the UK so there's probably about 900 people out there and I go are you ready kids and he goes he's like oh [ __ ] we're doing the whole audience I mean I just went oh [ __ ] now fast forward what 12 years later yeah and it has become a real pain in my ass I would assume so okay and I say it at every show because every time somebody sees me with an acoustic they admitted SpongeBob it's like SpongeBob has replaced the Skynyrd you know or free bird you know and I'm just like oh for [ __ ] sake and I just look at him and I go you miserable Pricks yeah I was like you know I've been doing this for 25 years I've written hundreds of songs and you want me to play a minute of somebody else's [ __ ] that I learned just to placate my song a theme song to an animated cartoon that you don't have a single link I didn't write the [ __ ] thing you know people think that I wrote that song and I'm like what is this is [ __ ] ridiculous man I mean your voice does kind of have the same tone as the intro to I mean which is great because that's Clancy Brown singing it yeah it's the kurgan I'm like [ __ ] yeah dude Ramirez that's such a great gnarly [ __ ] line in that movie yeah well you created the monster I know but nobody wants to see monster no more they want Taylor I'm choppable over well if you want City this is what I'll give you a little bit of Me versus some hot liquor oh you can find all of Eminem's music on uh Amazon music and check the link below dude thank you so much for giving us your time and energy dude no it's all good man like sorry again that my flight got canceled so I couldn't be here like sooner but that's really ridiculous because the fact that you were here on time in early early like you're very not kind most people don't give a [ __ ] and they're well some people are Pricks dude I don't know if you've noticed that some people aren't worth the [ __ ] skin they're printed on amen yeah and just like that full circle retailer everybody thank you hydrate stay hydrated [Music]

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Published: Tue Aug 08 2023