Coin Ring Tools Do Not HAVE To Cost $1000’s - Low Cost Tool Recommendations

hello i'm coin ringmaker from coinringmaker.com and in today's video we're going to be talking about all the different types of coin ring tools that are out there and what you need to get started without you know spending a bunch of money because honestly like let's let's talk about why i'm making this video okay first of all like this tool right here this is gonna cost you this is a chinese ring stretcher this is going to cost you about 100 to 115 bucks you get a nicer ring stretcher like a pepe tools you're spending five six hundred dollars on that thing and i don't want the cost of getting into this hobby to ruin this hobby for you so i'm gonna show you the tools i got um from the beginning up to where i am now because i suggest starting with the bare basic tools getting your your fundamentals out of the way understanding the process and then investing in tools as you sell your rings as you go so the first so the first thing you're going to need to do the first step in coin ring making is punching a hole in your coin and this can be really problematic because you need to get the hole perfectly centered in there or you're going to have problems with your ring later on down the line now when i first started calendaring making i got this punch and die kit from harbor freight and it's a good tool like i'm not talking any smack on it but it's very difficult to get this coin perfectly centered under here and get that hole perfect without you know added tools so i made this uh guide which allows you to put put your coin in there and then you flip it over and this perfectly fits a half inch punch which will slide this into here and then guide the punch on top until it it slides into that hole and that'll get you a perfectly centered punch now to do that you'll need this harbor freight kit which is about i think 40 bucks and then these guides which you can get on my etsy by going to coinringmaker.com and clicking on the etsy button my favorite tool to suggest for getting holes perfectly centered is this little bugger and this is specifically four quarters there are auto punch guides out there but they're very expensive uh this one i think is 30 or forty dollars uh it's on my recommended tool list on coinringmaker.com and this is what i recommend to get started with because you're gonna get a perfect center every time it's not gonna cost you much as much as this setup but this does allow you to punch different size holes so as you spend more you get more options but as you're starting i think you should just hyper focus on one type of coin ring which is what i did i hyper focused on quarters with half inch holes punched in them and until i got those perfect i didn't worry about different hole sizes different coins different rings i wanted to make sure that i could get this right so these these are my two recommendations for hole punches you don't have to go out there and spend 500 bucks on an auto center hole punch uh and i don't recommend you do that because like i said i don't want you to spend a bunch of money on this hobby and then become disinterested because it's not working as well as you thought it's it's a little bit more difficult and it does take some practice so i think you should start with some basic tools so i'm gonna go ahead and uh punch holes in quarters with these two just to show you how they work and then we can move on to the next step okay so i'm gonna be punching holes in these quarters two different ways to emphasize the difference between spending a bunch of money on tools and just getting the correct tools you need to get the bare basics to get started so like i said this is my recommendation to get started right here and it's real simple you just pop your quarter in here put the top on and this is a hammer i got for a dollar at a garage sale and basically we can just drive this through here [Music] now we've got our center punch and it's perfectly centered and now i do use a one ton arbor press to get this punch out which i'll show you in a little bit but i'm going to go ahead and go to my 20 ton press which i spent i think 140 on to punch a hole in the second quarter to show you the difference so this is my 20 ton strong way press that i got to punch holes in much larger coins i needed to punch a hole in a dollar so i got this it was kind of a gift to myself since i'd been working so hard but you can use it on smaller coins and one thing i want to point out with this punch and die kit is i've seen people try to center their whole lots of different ways i've seen people draw holes on here mark them use pieces of paper to guide it under here and really you can never get that perfect center without you know something like this which is which is what i use this is a guide i made myself because i had such a problem getting this hole centered uh before i got this that i designed these um i kind of got these at the same time i can use either one interchangeably i like this one just because it's quick it's compact i can just grab it and punch holes real quick but for other size coins like half dollars or anything else like that i usually make a guide and use it like this so we're going to go over here this slides easily into your punch and die kit and then you just line your punch up with the guide make sure it's right and centered in that hole and then we're just going to bring down this and you can see how much more time this is taking than just using the hammer and that metal punch like there's definitely more options available if you get yourself like one of these presses but you don't you don't have to start with one i see i've already run into a problem i don't have my plates close enough and the punch and die kit is bowing out so i gotta release this we'll go ahead use that get that right on the edge there make sure everything's nice and lined up and try again now bear with me i promise there's good information in this video and it's really going to save you quite a bit of money i'm sorry this is taking so long i'm still kind of new to using this press and like it's a good tool it definitely works but like the point of this video is that you don't have to spend an arm and a leg to get started on this or to even make decent rings starting to feel some pressure and we gotta pop through so i like to keep pushing this punch through until the uh the center comes out and now i'll take both of these over to my one ton arbor press and push out the punches now this right here this is my one ton arbor press this is a tool i recommend you get if you're going to get into coin ring making i use this on every coin ring multiple times and it's probably like 40 bucks so definitely a tool to consider so i'm just going to put a smaller punch on top of this one and just push it out that way i don't have to worry about damaging my dies or my punches that is as i remove them and then we can do the same thing with this one put it upside down put a smaller punch on it just push it out and these just kind of tap out of here you can see i've got it all the way to the edge and i can just take this smaller punch and just push it out there we go you see how perfect that is that is perfectly centered no headache no problem the inside cut edge is something we're going to be addressing next but i'm going to go ahead and pull out this other quarter so i can compare it so here is the quarter from the arbor press punch and die kit that i use the 20 ton press on you can see that that cut edge is a little rougher than the one i used the the metal tool but still very nice center no hassle no problems so the next tool we need to talk about is the one that's going to get rid of that that cut edge and that is called a deburring tool that looks like this and you can pick these up at like a hardware store for probably like five to ten bucks and it's just kind of a curved cut edge that's on a swivel that allows you to rotate it and get rid of all this uh sharp metal on the inside there so i'm gonna show you how to do that right now so i do my deburring over a trash can you can do it over like a bin if you want to collect the metal but i just do it over a trash can um what i do is i i put this deburring tool in here at about a 90 degree angle and then i rotate it around until the inside is smooth so that's what i'm going to do right now i'll just cut away all that sharp edge in there so the burning tools are like super useful i highly recommend getting them um you could do this with sandpaper or maybe some other things but to maintain the detail on the coin i think this is probably the best way to go about it and i just clean them up until i can feel that they're smooth i i don't trust my eyes but i trust my hands and if they're smooth on one side i'll flip it over to burn that other side real quick so it's nice and even and i'll go ahead and do that other quarter real quick and i'm sorry if i'm popping in and out of frame here or this isn't the best video you've ever seen but i'm really just trying to give you some good information that i've learned since i started getting into cornering making i'm just shy of 300 days into this just about making a coin ring every day so i kind of know what i'm talking about and i just want to want to save you some trouble save you some money get you on the right path so you don't you know give up too soon uh the real reason i'm making this video is a friend of mine pointed out a post on facebook today this guy was selling basically the complete set like every tool offered by jason's works as well as a pepe tools ring stretcher and these are very expensive ring stretching tools like this guy spent several thousand dollars on this and the post said i only ever made 10 rings and i just want to get rid of these tools and like i don't want you to be that guy so i'm making this video to show you guys that you can make coin rings without spending a whole bunch of money so now that we've got these nice and smooth on the inside we're gonna move to folding and i'm gonna show you my favorite tools for folding coins okay so these are my recommended tools for folding uh quarter coin rings these right here this folding ball and this doming block are not technically required but i think they make a world of a difference and i'm going to show you um by folding first with just this these two tools and then after that i'm gonna fold with this and then these two tools i'm gonna show you the difference okay so these two tools this is a 17 degree folding cone and a 17 degree folding die and you can see the measurements for it it's 0.9 inches and one inch on the side i use the one inch side to start and what you do is you take your d-bird coin with a hole in it and you're going to pick the side you want on the outside of the ring i usually want the the year on the outside of the ring that's usually what i pick so we're going to put that face down and you're going to try and get this coin as level as you can in this die and then place your 17 degree folding die on top of it and then just fold it you can see i'm having some trouble here getting this level between the die itself and the folding cone it's really difficult to get this perfectly level which means it's difficult to get it to fold evenly we're going to go ahead and fold it all the way down in there and this is what we get it's a little wonky it's not bad like this can be fixed but it's not great which is why i recommend starting like this this is a doming block and a three-quarter inch folding ball and you don't have to go get a bunch of folding balls just get this one and just get a doming block almost all of them have something that perfectly fix fits a quarter i think this is a two and a half inch or three inch doming block uh you can get them on amazon relatively cheap i got this one with let me show you this whole set of doming rods which i never really use because i don't like the way they they tilt and move as i try and put them on a quarter it's really hard to get them perfectly straight i much prefer the folding ball and let me show you why i prefer the folding ball because of this boom look at this look how easy it is to straighten this out and no matter what i do that ball is going to be right in the middle of that coin and because this is uh shaped in a curved way it's going to fold evenly all the way through so we're going to get a nice even first fold look at that nice and even all the way around and then from there i'll move back to the 17 degree die excuse me put the 17 degree cone on excuse me on top i'm burping and then just finish that fold right there and that's what we get and i really really like that two-step folding process let's let's compare these two the best we can here really getting on so this is the one over here that i folded twice and this is the one i just folded with the 17 degree die and maybe to the naked eye they don't look too different but this one is made way way straighter and more even and that's just going to make it easier to make into a ring this one i will probably have to flatten and i'm going to show you how i do that real quick but you can see the curve on that edge right there because it didn't fold evenly so when that happens to me i'll go back to my one ton press and zoom out a little bit and i'll lay it down on here and i'll just get another quarter and put it on top and try and even it out just apply a bunch of pressure rotated around and these are just extra steps that you don't need to do if you can get that doming block in that folding ball this is just it's just a headache it just makes your rings a little more difficult to work on but okay we've got that a little smoothed out a little more even so the next step for me on these poison rings is to smooth out the cut edge because you can see it's kind of rough and if we start stretching these they'll have a tendency to split along where it's rough along those micro cracks so what i use to get these cracks these rough edges off of these cut quarters is nail file blocks i like these uh because they have like three different grades so if i have a really deep uh cracker split i can start with this rougher one and work my way down usually i just have to use this lighter side and i'll just place it on there and rock it back and forth until that cut edge is smooth as i'm doing this i'll i'll periodically check that edge see if there's any trouble spots but usually this doesn't take very long and i like this a lot better than sandpaper because sandpaper gets like torn up and i go through a lot more of it than i do these nail file boards and these just leave a nice shine very nice and smooth we'll go ahead and do this other one you see that rough edge see those scratches that's very dangerous for stretching coin rings if you don't get rid of those all right this is a weird angle you can still see that's kind of rough i'm going to go ahead and finish this so that the video is shorter and i'll be right back with you okay so now that we've got our rings um folded and sanded off on the cut edge we need to talk about stretching them now like i said before this is like a hundred dollar ring stretcher you can go up to like 600 probably 800 on on one of these when i started i didn't have a hundred dollars to spend on a ring stretcher like this so i did a bunch of research and this is what i used this is a super cheap mandrel that i got at hobby lobby and this is a piece of pvc pipe three quarter inch with a cap on it which i reinforced with gorilla tape and i actually had somebody comment on an old video of me using this that i should use like zip ties or some kind of clamps on this to keep this from splitting because it has split on me before this is kind of a dangerous tool to use but if you are super low budget you can do this for probably 10 bucks and how this works you set up the best i can here real quick is you'll put your folded coin on the end of the mandrel here and then put this pvc pipe on top of it and drive it down and that will fold this bring this edge closer and closer to the end of the mandrel and i'm going to show you me doing that right now okay so we've got our mandrel we've got a ring on it with the wider end uh facing down and then i'm just gonna place the pvc pipe on top of it and hit it with my one dollar hammer [Music] and you can see the base of the ring is pretty much touching the mandrel now so we can take this off looking pretty good and then from here we can reduce this ring but to get it off here is is a bit of trouble and that's when i found out about this hammer this is a pretty cheap teardrop plastic hammer i think i got it for six bucks and it allows you to knock rings off mandrels without damaging the ring i'm trying to do this with my other hammer would mangle and destroy the metal but you can do it with plastic and it gets it off of there the hammer takes all the the damage you can see these rings really like to stick to mandrels but you can get it off of there and this one's ready for reducing um but i'm going to go ahead and show you the second way i learned to stretch rings that's with this tool this is called a rathburn ring stretcher i think you can get them for about twenty dollars and most of these tools you can find on my recommended tool page at coinringmaker.com so what you do there's a base for it and then there's a rod that goes into it and then you put your ring on the end here put the rod on and drive it through and that's going to stretch the ring out so we're just going to go ahead and do that real quick now getting these on here is a little tricky i actually have to squeeze all these splines together and then push it all the way down like that okay and we'll put it on the base put the rod on there and then drive it down now just like with the other method you can see that this ring has some space between it and the ring stretcher but we put it on the different way we put the cut edge face down and we're just going to drive it until the ring band is is basically even now when using a rathburn ring stretcher uh you can use a metal hammer but it's going to tear it up you see the top of this it's all mushroomed out from me using a metal hammer on it and you'll mushroom out the other end as well almost to the point where it won't fit through this hole anymore when i did that i started using my nylon hammer on it and that works much better like i said it doesn't mess up the metal and you can still use just as much force so we got to drive that spike out of there and i'm actually going to move this down one more rung i'm sorry my hand's in the way i'm going to move this down one more rung and squeeze all these together we're just going to stretch it out a little bit more try and get it in frame and this time i'll do it with the uh the plastic camera there we go now that ring's looking pretty good let me just pop the spike off of here now i'm not going to lie to you things take longer with the plastic hammer but you're not going to mess up your tool that's really in there well i'm gonna use my metal hammer i'm a bit of a hypocrite i drove it too far there we go now you can see those gouges i put in it using my metal hammer right now because i got impatient and it's actually caught in there because it's mushroomed out now when this happens you can take a file and file away the edges of this but i recommend just using the plastic hammer so i'm going to have to take a break and file this out but i should be able to get this ring off of here without doing that got a bit of a side project for myself today there we go okay yeah so don't use a metal hammer on your raspberry ring stretcher because it'll mess it up okay now let's talk about reducing these rings so we're back here at the arbor press we've got our ring stretched out a little bit but one side is wider than the other so that's the side we're going to focus on first what i do is i i take my 17 degree folding die and i'll put that wider end face down and i do this with every one of my quarter coin rings i get them down to size eight unless they're specifically for a customer then i'll i'll size them to that customer but as as i'm practicing as i'm making coin rings i'll get them all down to size eight i just think it's a real nice size to work up from and to get it there i will actually use another quarter placed on top in this die and i'll get it nice and centered and then apply pressure and when i do this i rotate this around and tap on it a couple times to make sure that that ring in there is centered and it's going to fold evenly then we'll bring it down all the way until the quarter is inside of the die we take the quarter off and you can see it's much more evenly folded now i can see with my eye that the cut edge is slightly flared out but honestly this is pretty even but i like to put that cut edge face down and fold it just a little bit as well now you can see on here it doesn't need a whole lot then we'll tap it rotate it make sure we're getting nice and flat and we'll get a nice look at that ring right now okay now that's nice flat and even and the next tool i recommend getting is a good mandrel so you've already seen my first mandrel this is not a great recommendation this one is made out of aluminum it's not very heavy at all it only goes from ring sizes 4 to 10. i definitely use the crap out of this but it's not what i recommend you getting this is a steel mandrel it has no ring sizes on it at all it's very heavy it's good for shaping rings but not good for measuring them this is also not something i recommend you get now this one right here this one is stainless steel goes from 15 to size one it's very heavy very nice this is what i recommend you get as you can see here we've got a size 8 ring and this this is what i recommend you get it's going to cost you a little bit more than this one or this one but it's going to last a lot longer and it's going to be a heck of a lot more useful all right so let's go ahead and review all the tools and i'll say my goodbyes so my recommendations are either start with a punch and die kit and a nice guide system for your coins or get yourself a specific punch tool for the coin you want to work on the most i suggest starting with quarters that way you can just follow the measurements of what i've got here and like i said you can find most of these on my website corneringmaker.com under recommended tools so i decide which way you want to punch holes and then you're going to want to get yourself a folding cone like this one i got mine from legacy brands there's several out there but legacy makes really good tools and they're not super expensive and you can get yourself a 17 degree cone from them as well and that'll help you fold and shape your rings and get them to the right size you can reduce down sizes and shape your rings with these tools and then you've got a rathburn ring stretcher right here highly recommend starting with something like this before moving on to a higher price ring stretcher like this make a couple rings make some sales and then reinvest your earnings into something like this and then you've got your mandrel and your hammer this hammer is really pretty sweet let me try and get as much information on there as i can for you pick this up at harbor freight like i said for about six bucks and then you've got a nice stainless steel mandrel with big ring sizes on it as well as small ring sizes and these are my basic recommendations like like i was saying you don't have to go out and get yourself a big fancy press uh one ton arbor press will do you highly recommend getting one of these and one of these if you can squeeze it in so these are the tools on my kind of recommended list that you don't really have to get if you can't afford them right away but i highly recommend getting them as soon as possible it's just going to make your rings look much better if you can get that first fold on a doming block i hope this video was helpful um if you have any questions go ahead and leave them in the comments and i'll probably make another one of these videos as my tools get better and better down the line but i just wanted to post kind of an update on my experience with coin ring making and giving tools for coin ring making and how expensive it can be and how that kind of drives people out of the interest of it so i wanted to show you that you know you can do it with some lower cost tools and still end up with some decent looking rings all right drop me a like subscribe to the channel and as always have a great day

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Length: 34min 33sec (2073 seconds)

Published: Sat Mar 13 2021