Chris Carter and the Future of the Church

hey welcome everybody to Kingdom talks obviously we have Chris Carter here and this is gonna be fun because we're at 9,500 feet and somewhat delirious so it is beautiful we're in a log cabin up here and just having a great time so it's the day after the conference and just kind of wanted to get your thoughts on how the conference went as well as what are we looking for as the body of Christ and moving forward with some of the things that came out of the conference feel things are shifting yeah I think every year we see more and more people accepting the idea that they can visit heaven in the spirit and to me that's like a crucial first step right that opens the door to everything that we've ever talked about about a next age coming because if we're talking about heaven coming to earth at some point you have to agree it's possible to be in the heavens to see what it is that you're supposed to be bringing down and I think you know here we were with a group of at least 120 people and there was a lot of hunger and it's amazing to me how much it's almost becoming like a household name to like be in heaven in the spirit you know what I mean like it's to come at me it's becoming household you know now I'm not saying it's normal I'm not saying it's wholesale across the board but it's definitely increasing and it's become an idea that is way less strange you know of course we did the kingdom talks with Nancy Koehn write writing and I think we even said this to her then you know there are folks like Nancy that really paved a way for it to get to this point and it's like they crack the door open and now that people can go through it we can have all sorts of other conversations that we couldn't have had if someone hadn't said and took all of the hits right for saying you can visit heaven in the spirit before you die like that is possible for a human being so I think the greatest shift that I've seen honestly is just the the fact that that has become not a subject you have to convince people like really hard right and even even in my own experience I would say maybe when I started doing some speaking and brave enough to talk about my own experiences maybe six years ago maybe seven years ago the first couple sessions would have been me convincing people scripturally that this is something New Testament believers did and that's why it's okay for you to do it and I don't even do that anymore you know and maybe there there might be a place I mean I'm not saying it's a bad thing to do I think having the background is always beneficial yeah well you know as you were speaking yesterday and realizing that you're covering some very major basics their major because they have to build the foundation on some of these these basics and yet each one of us you know we run into the same thing and I think you're gonna be running to the same thing as your experience it grows you're likely to start leaving some of those basics behind as you go in to teach because you're needing to teach at a higher level but like you said Nancy and II and these others that open the door there's a you know it started with a trickle but I see we're jamming the door as we're pressing through now because there's so many other isn't pressing through and some of those new people coming through will pick up those basics again yeah and they'll come out and they'll be teaching so we need to be learning for those people that are that are rising up and really good point and I really you know hope that people are seeing what you're doing because you bring just a super powerful dynamic into this that people when they hear you they're just like this makes so much sense now everybody does that everybody that hears you turns around and says that makes sense now yeah well I mean that probably comes out of my own desire for things to make sense like I'm I'm not comfortable even when I'm doing something there in the heavens and the Spirit I'm not comfortable unless it's making sense which doesn't mean I've always liked or you gotta make sense right now we do things up there that we don't understand but then it's never like believeth in the place of I don't get that at all it's always that have the experience then come back and start talking to the Lord about okay I explained to me everything that happened you know and so I appreciate that there's a I wish I had in front of me right now but there is a great quote from Toki jr. talking what he's talking about he uses the word fantasy because that's the genre that he wrote in but when he's saying fantasy if anyone's heard me talk he's actually referring to like a Barfield notion of fantasies really talking about imagination yeah and in this quote and I'm gonna butcher but in this quote he essentially says that the more real and the more like even scientific Verity truth there is provable truth theories in the fantasy the greater fantasy it will make and so in it's a whole paragraph I think I wish I would have thought of it I'd have it in front of me on my phone right now it's easy to find on like a Goodreads quote section or something but uh but yeah he was the point he was making it is if it's like always flying pink elephants and swirling colors and stuff like that to Tolkien that wasn't good fantasy or I would interject the word imagination mhm he was saying the more grounded it actually is in the things that we used to interpret reality like consistency causality you know like those kinds of things continuity yeah that's the better imagination it will make and the more provable something is the better imagination it will make so even our spiritual muscle that we're using to do this is begging for a sensibility you know now you can use the word imagination and and I've always felt you know that's a spirit our spirit at work yeah and I just wonder how far do you think the imagination word can go versus well I think you've heard me say that you know I felt like that imagination is a word used but it's an English word used by secular people to speak of things of the Spirit without admitting there is a spirit right so that's totally true so so you know for me I'd stepped into a place of just allowing my spirit to to be that place of imagination yeah and to step into that but I think again what you're doing is letting a super powerful foundation breaking people out of that idea that the imagination is bad or joy or something but allowing them to start engaging with it and the other thing that you do that I'd really like is when you talk about if you think you're making it up you are good you know and what why don't you share a little bit more on that because I think that is still an area that people really have a hard time because they they imagine things all the time whether they admit it or I think they do or not they do it all the time give me your definition one more time of the yeah that imagination is a English word made by secular people to describe functions of the Spirit without admitting there is a spirit I like that if you mean if we think about any anything especially in the past like take the Sistine Chapel the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel how is it that he saw all of those heavenly things right yeah yeah there's only one muscle a human being has every painting every sculpture was it who did the David okay art history in art spirit tonight now what about the I think this one's Michelangelo but the the Mary that's holding Jesus like after he's died like his for Mansa how is it that they're getting the ideas right there's only ever been one muscle that people can use to see anything that's not in this present round but certainly anything heavenly so music what about Handel's Messiah where is that coming from yeah it's coming from his imagination right that's the only muscle that we have as humans to do that job and so I where were we going with that there was a point there about oh the if you're making it up right right so if we can agree that that word which didn't even exist I mean the earliest we had of a notion of this was a Greek phrase of your mind's eye or Paul's phrase in Ephesians of the eyes of your heart that was the earliest notions in language and it's just a phrase right we're searching for a way to describe how is it that we're seeing things or sensing and revealing then we're having the impression that's not getting hung up in the semantics how is it that we're experiencing things that aren't presently in this realm and then they're searching for something eventually this word imagination comes on the scene to describe something internal that's a part of us that we are using to participate with that divine creative force and then there's no scream coach I love the one from John Keats you know the poet in his letter to his brother that where he said the imagination is like Adams dream he awoke and found it was truth and that's just crazy that's a crazy thing to say so you know if we are going to visit heaven in the spirit there's language that we could apply to it that would make it so much harder for everyone yeah we could say we're you know we're getting caught up in the Holy Spirit or you know like you know God is you know he took me there you know what and it's true those experiences happen but I don't think God's made it hard you know but the mechanism is the easiest thing that you're ever going to do now doing it over and over again in the society that downplays it is tough yeah but you know so yeah if you if you're visiting heaven in the spirit and you're using the only muscle we have to do it it's gonna feel internal it will feel like it's coming from you so that's freed that freed me up I learned that because after I was introduced to this I made it really hard and it bogged down for months and I was like I was so convinced this was the greatest revolution of my life that I I mean at one time I watched the clock i full on like prayed like did full-on like oh jesus help me prayer for four hours to see like three minutes in the in the spirit and and I wouldn't give up because of a promise that God made me as often as you want to come here and walk and although we can yeah I was like there's no way that you're gonna not you know what a meal and it bogged down in four hours of standard kind of like prayer oh I used to do begging God for something and then finally a glimpse and I was like I checked off the box okay the promise is still there you know but it was those months of realizing I'm making this hard and if I would just trust the first impressions of my imagination because what did I have to lose nothing you know if I got done with the experience and it was silly or it was unspiritual or it was wrong because it was just me I had bad G's or I'm bringing up memories from all the horror movies that I've seen you know in my past or whatever then I kinda as a human being I could discern that test the fruit and write it off you know just just I'm done with that but I would go back and I'm gonna be honest that just doesn't happen hardly at all I'm trying to think of it even if it ever did but you know just trusting it and giving myself permission and going mistakes or really low let me just see what happens if I do this and that's how I learned that this is like a super easy process yeah it's so freeing for people when you explain it that way there's so many people that we run across they're really struggling and I just want to say if you are struggling out there to see in the spirit or think that you can't they want to give you hope and encouragement because it is possible totally yeah I think one of the other components that we've also found is sometimes there's an inner healing work that needs to happen yeah no doubt that was the case with me yeah I mean I had to work through a bunch of stuff and of course I mean we're all still doing it you know yeah we're not perfect the people around us are quick to tell us that you know so we're still doing that and what a great way to work through it then just actually being there with Jesus in real time letting him take you through the stuff that he's ready to deal with yeah definitely so before we go too much further we've got some conferences coming up I wanted to do this in the beginning we kind of got rolling right away but we do get this in the notes as well but on October 17 18 19 and 20 Chris will be out in the Sacramento area we'll be doing a conference called discovering the heavens on the retreat retreat actually retreat yes so we've got room right now for about 15 people for the retreat portion so we've on-site retreat and then about another 30 for the conference portion and then I think we have a room for another 20 at the planetarium so anyway if you go to the website it will give you all the information just go to Kingdom equipping center calm and you look under the events there or you can go to Kingdom Talks Mediacom go all the way to the bottom of the page from the home page and there's information there as well so our heart is really you know we've done the conference thing yeah several times but believing that as we move into this next stage that things are going to be different that were wanting to explore yeah not just sitting and observing I mean I love how you teach that you get an activation that there's so much more and so what does that look like you know good well I'm just going to just by the communal yes yes yes I mean there's something about the next age that is really communal and is it's probably more creation nature focus yes yes so night number one at the planetarium right or in a planetarium we're gonna have the stars on the ceiling I'm gonna bring some great ethereal music and I'm gonna have a laser pointer and what we're gonna do that night for that first hour is with the music playing we're going to be in the heavens together and I'm just gonna point out the stars I'm gonna say this is the star this is its name this is the picture of this constellation and we're going to just put the sky as it is in California on October the whatever that cd70 emptily yeah we put that up there and then we're going to just participate with each one of these stars and constellations in this fear so that people have a chance to find what's resonating with them you all have interviewed karina Pataki yes yeah she has a great message about every human being is going to resonate with some stars and some constellations I like that idea I mean I've experienced that in my own journey but I think I wrote it all and I and then Carina starts talking about it I thought okay this is legitimate you know so we're gonna do that and then we're gonna be at the big house yeah kind of a little ways out right we have late we can walk around but it's communal it's conversational it's participatory everybody's in it together it's more of that Expo mentality you know of the next age where people are bringing what their inheritance is producing and that's a neat event that is key and so I was just thinking about it's like rather than calling these conferences or retreats that we started maybe we still had the word retreat but call it practice practice time you know we're going to get together and start engaging with what we believe some of the next stage stuff is going to look like and we just started engaging with you in fact because there is a there's like a media room right yeah I'm gonna bring a movie that I think illustrates so many next age points and I'm not gonna give away but I'm gonna bring a movie now I did this actually you know in my other job as a school teacher right we have these electives in the first part of January and I did this movie because the class I was teaching was called parks and poetry it's both I showed this movie only because it illustrates humanity moving into the next age and taking on the Commission the next age which is probably to liberate the creation and nature itself from its frustration so that it can come into what it's supposed to be there by bringing what's here you know to year now so not again I'm not a spoiler title but it's a really great movie everybody loves it and will like watch it this was my idea it may be even pause a few moments ago okay are you seeing how they're setting this up because the whole movie isn't is the journey of man from original participation with nature to coming to a final participation with nature where man is in the place of Dominion but he's ruling because he has relationship and because he loves really really movie yeah so all ages it's a total PG movie but adults will love it kids will love it it's good it's a good time alright yeah cool well you what do you think would be some of the other things we might practice at something like this you know Nancy's very big on the frequency and the grown each and I just had this picture in my head very silly but maybe not so silly that as you know we move into this next age what is church going to look like what is the body of believers coming together going to look like is there always going to be the worship factor you know those songs and so forth which I really like that honestly but would there maybe be some times where we begin that this is crazy but we begin to grow together and practice that to see what's in it to see what's there to see what it's going to produce you ever seen a group of people in a part practicing Tai Chi yes yeah okay so what they're doing is they are being poetic with their bodies okay they have an invocation and they're using breath and movement and often when we were in the conference I did a little all I do exactly what you were doing and I was like listen this is yoga and it's true it's not like no would freak out okay because I know that that could be like it like a hot bun but we were just we were using our bodies in a way that said we're making even symbols you know with our bodies and if we think words are important I mean think about people that that are mute yes and they're talking with with their hands I think that's fascinating I honestly wish now my head learned sign language yeah for no other reason than to get comfortable with making words with my body yeah you know and so I wonder you know you mentioned groaning and I'm just adding like another little branch to that tree you know what does the next age meeting begin to look like well possibly more nature focused that more meetings are outside as opposed to inside and that they're more communal strangely unified and without being religious right and the best like picture I had was the group of people in the park practicing their you know their time sheet where they're exhaling you know and then they're inhaling you know and they even call those movements like waves or cradling the moon or all this stuff because they're participating with nature in the movements and if I don't actually have any problem with Tai Chi but if but if someone was like yes that's still demonic okay there's going to be a range deviation as Nancy says there's gonna be a version of that where I suspect we do more things and I'm not I'm not saying all of us are going to Park and do that but but things like that yeah because you're participating with your body which is a reflection on what's out there I mean all of that out there is in you in the form of nutrients and different elements and everything else there's waters and you there's waters out there they're probably the same stuff you know and it's this participation of we're in this together I'm taking my place as a true new kind of human AGA Yeshua Christ kind of human yeah and I'm going to participate with this the way that I was designed to participate with there's such resonance in that I know we were raised or I was raised at the seven damndest church and many that conservative where you sit in a Pew and you know maybe you stand but you know you don't raise your hand or do anything else like that and when we moved out of that into the vineyard church and discovered flagging now a lot of people think that's pretty good and I don't do it anymore but it was incredible to begin to lose my body it was yeah yeah yeah initially dance was like - like everybody's looking at me but it was like with the flags people are looking at the flags they're not looking at me and so it you know you were able to step into making these movements but it fascinating - well the next version of that and again you know the world is already you know in this you know you could use Tai Chi but I'm thinking of a series and I'm not going to name it because it's not something kosher that I'd highly recommend but there is a movie or series that's on them I think it's on Netflix I'm not sure which one it is but it's all about these people learning these movements exactly yeah I knew you I mean probably would but I mean I really know fascinating in October I was going to show a clip from that from that series at the end when they use those motions and it stops a tragedy yes curry and because again it's someone who's creating that there again everyone's feeling the shift right into the next age I just happen to believe we are the best candidates to lead it forward because it's always God's people that are marking the transition day - I'm sorry no that's fine but you know again behind all this is the intent and I think that is the key to all that because you know that what makes the difference between the the you know what the enemy is doing and the righteous real I think is the intent behind it and so we take that and we can take anything that the enemy is doing say that's got some power and authority behind it's got something to it we sense it when it's got something to it and to just pull that back in and begin you know with going into the heavens alright how do I use these crystals or how do I use these bowls or how do I use you know these in with the right intent to bring heaven to earth you know and just to be thinking in terms of thinking of it in terms that way versus you know oh my goodness the enemies using that I got to stay away from it this is such a typical Kingdom talks conversation for us because we started one place by the time okay so to continue it all right so you know I love our field you know he's the one that's responsible for Lewis being Ruiz at Barfield felt like his job was to take the teachings of Rudolf Steiner and to make them palpable for people which I don't know how successful he was I don't understand how things Berkeley wrote so Rudolf Steiner is out there even more than so if we're going lewis orthodox Barfield heterodox but still very much you know like you know you can you can see the the Christendom in there Steiner one more step over fence to where you you are wondering okay but he did write a book that I've read called Christianity as mystical fact and so he believed the Gospels he believed the work of the Christ and he came to it like Barfield not through the church not through the scriptures they came to it through philosophy they fought their way through it and realized the Christ is the only answer and that is the entire center of meaning for everything is the Christ and him crucified and resurrected and ascended like they got there by those means which is cool I mean people get to Jesus they read the Koran so it's you know you have together so anyway Steiner is the founder of all of these schools that are called Waldorf schools which have varying reputations but and that's because it means donors been dead a long time I'm not even sure where the Waldorf schools are today if the people even there have read a lot of Barfield or Steiner or anything but in their schools they do your Rhythmics e ER if mix like there's an e in the front in its emotions and they'll put light in the room of a certain color because they really value the and colors and they value the meaning of the human body so here we are like you described and kind of the old way that we would even think of Church where I am sitting in a Pew and you're not doing anything so the meaning of the person does the person even need to be there you know like you ultimately know yeah you know so whatever we want to say about it if they hit the mark if they got close to the mark if they missed the mark I maybe that's not important I think what we're seeing in there is again the beginnings of a cosmic shift in the early 1900's late 1800s Early 1900s and these folks whether we think they're all right all wrong or somewhere in between started doing something yeah it's so much so that it's it's it's in their curriculum for their school day at a Waldorf School is these motions and this color and everything else that's amazing I'm have a friend who is doing really working with people for healing deep healing and she ran across this group that it's Hebraic dance that is specifically motions for healing and we just call them ritual there's something like that not understanding there is something about moving our bodies that God created us that way right well you know as we as we began to step into this movement for me I guess part of it was because before hand being in environments where it was very academic and whatever for me to try to do some of the stuff that we're doing now would have just been shot down so I always kept my professional rebel looked an appearance and all that and I didn't even let myself go down some of the roads where my mind would go I had crisis of faith multiple times while I was in you know a very conservative Jews like you know the father would be pulling me in two things are the Spirit is like we don't we can't go there right and so you know most of those times except for the last time the last time I finally crossed over that I kept getting pulled back in because I was afraid to go over but now we're in a place where I've even stepped into it further to where I'm trusting my gut my intuition and just looking for those things that resonate with my spirit yeah which just seemed totally crazy and out there and yet a lot of the stuff it works you know in most of it I test while I'm driving in my car alone you know just the fruit for me the engagement of my DNA and so forth all these things that I practice in but it works you know for me it works you know and I have taught it and shared it because I know it's going to work for some and others it may not so may that's that's also the beauty of not getting into a place where we think that one teacher is they only want to follow because that person has got you know something that has worked for you at one point and and that's great and awesome but we need to keep it open because I believe as you've said as we continue to step into this next stage that we'll find more and more the things that are working and I've even said I've joked about it but you know even saying that there might be a third Testament at some point yeah you know so that has all these writings and all these things that are going on right now that we finally begin to come together and see wow this is this stuff these things here are stacking up there's like 10,000 testimonies that this works and so we we begin to look at it and say okay I think this is what God is really saving this works let's let's continue with that but there's still going to be all these little offshoots that this main portion doesn't work but it you know they find something works over here for them and that would give the freedom yeah everybody has a piece of a puzzle so I lived like EFC does the growing just the sound component yeah she loves sound yeah you're more in the creation you know yeah and so each one has a different little and then there's some of us that are kind of eclectic we're trying to pull it all together and they can point you to everybody else seriously that's what we're doing is that we feel that as our part is pulling pieces from each group and then pointing back out to them because you know some people are going to being able to connect more with certain individuals but again not to just follow that person as if they're the only guru but to just realize wow I resonate with that person a little bit more I'm going to probably focus and spend more time with them and it's totally fine yeah but don't get yourself locked into one thing trying to keep Oh being part of it is we're trained to like what's the quick fix right certainly in America yeah yeah instead of looking at this is an opportunity to enjoy an experiment you know and that is it's the pursuit of God and of the journey and it's like wow let's try some movements it might seem weird right but it's all in the trying yeah I mean so I mean we mentioned this in the conference and the transition between the ages that's all you got I could see like my angel was like okay looking weird but I'm going well it's it's strange but I have my own little ritual that I go through the mornings yeah when I'm at home in my office that I had the the oils the don't use nothing have a certain way that I do it's just something again that resonated with my spirit so I go through this er you know and it's these motions that I'm like I do it and it just resonates with my spirit for you and so it's not like you're making a catalog okay everyone turn to the right use this oil right this way Macy's recite the Gettysburg Address yeah I mean I think next agers tend to value personal freedom yes knowing that the freer the individual is the better the unity will be yes you know and so it's really good give people the chance to just look at something and adapt it and then at the same time you know I was listening to you yelling I thought if we want to be thankful to science for something it's because it gave humanity the idea that you should experiment and test and improve it's good and if you experiment and in UTEP then you test and the result is not valuable you go back to the experiment and you tweak something and you test it it's like you run the experiment again and that actually that was not in mankind's ideas yeah hence alchemy okay okay I think we can turn the LED to gold by wanting to you know there was never like a system you know that went okay well why don't we make sure I mean and I'm really like I'm spiritual spiritualizing science right now but why don't we make sure that if we're going to bring something from heaven to earth it really gets from heaven to earth yeah and that's actually strangely a scientific mindset if I do it I should see the result it should be testable and it should be verifiable and then here's the kicker with science it should be repeatable yes and so one of my kickers is and you and I have talked about this before I don't like sharing stories that I can't replicate so and it's because I always feel like it maybe that's the that's probably I'm just now realizing it that's probably the physicist yeah that's the physics talking you but I think that there's probably some value in that that we want to be able to put something out there that sets up an experiment that is so that the result is something that's replicated and it's not just me that's replicating and even if someone's tweaking the experiment for themselves and in a transition of the age I think it's gonna take a lot of really good I mean it forces you to be responsible we can forces the human being to not trust their results right it forces you to do it and look at your results and so there is no writing someone's coattails yeah you have to run it yourself yeah yeah it's like most charismatic Christians we want to try it for two days is there longer tests yeah they are try something for two days and that the penance that yeah they kind of tested exhaust agree and yet it's almost impossible to exhaust the infinite God and the universe that we have to experiment with but I was gonna save an indigo that it's wonderful to that we have these people that are documenting their experiences we have leaders that are documenting their experiences but I see other people doing you know just what we've done I mean we came from a denomination that had a prophet a prophet that we followed you know and it's like we can't do that anymore we really can't latch on to one person and just follow that person and just believe every single word that they send them and think that that is the gospel that we have to do it that way yeah but it's great that it's there because people can step into it they can read that information they can experiment on their own to see if it works for them and again that's where those testimonies are going to line up because I you know I have read a lot of stuff where people have gone out and tried some of it and we we get these testimonies back that aren't so good because they tried it is like yeah that almost destroyed your life you know so you know let's do that again or at least make sure you have people around you to help you in that process go back to the communal yeah so we valuing personal freedom which makes for better community and makes for better unity and it makes for more trustful community scenarios yeah where you can like really openly say I feel like I'm getting this when I'm there like I feel like I should make this movement I'm gonna try it for a little while or I feel like I'm supposed to do this every morning you know and then the people around you are watching yeah and they're like hey that's you're way more pleasant you know I'm seeing more of the Christ in you I mean and that's ultimately the tests right yeah people wanted to be around the Lord you know it's so because of the presence of because of the love and because of the acceptance and so we're watching all of the fruits well and so I'm gonna go ahead and do a product placement yes you're gonna you're gonna make it through a promise we've got a lot of people that are starting to come on to the equity the ultimate impact which is about becoming the ecclesia and part of what we encourage in the embassy is is that if someone gets this inclination you know it drops in their spirits if they want to step into something that you know normally in the past would have been absolutely taboo yeah we want to have a relationship you know the immunity so that instead of saying oh you're going off the rails right rather say okay all right well we've got your back yeah oh so as you go out and go into that we're going to we've got your back and anybody else in a group want to go with them you know but but that we do it in community and hopefully the person would also trust that the community really does have their back so that if the community is saying that's not looking so good the fruits not really there and that that person would say I know you guys love me and have my best in mind so I'm going to turn back around and come back and maybe maybe go back and try to get later if it's still there but just having that trust in the community I have a testimony of that which I have to it has to be totally anonymous because I don't have a person's permission so in generalities I knew someone that was having heavenly visits experienced something that I thought I think I know where you're going but what this is I think you've misinterpreted and I think the fruit will be bad now I was so used to the old age men kind of the church mindset no one ever comes back I'm just I mean I'm just I'm being honest it takes forever or it's just like once people start going down a road it's just I've never seen it really good well it's just like you can tell him because you're doing it in that way that's almost like you need to repent you need to do this whatever so he thought about it and it was still visiting heaven still like processing things he then goes to his community his group of people that are going to have him together tells them everything I mean like felt comfortable enough they tell him essentially like okay we think this this and this it was kind of like I've been saying that too and that guy in like a moment of humility that I think everyone would have to respect yeah full-on goes think you're right I think I've misinterpreted this I'm gonna like shut this off for now I'm still going to heaven yeah I'm just putting that over here right until I can get that one worked out I'm still gonna go do all the things that are bearing good fruit yeah that one needs to wait and these it needs the Lord to come in and give me wisdom about it and he I mean he tells me the story and I'm like okay you are the most amazing person I've ever met cuz who does that you know like who comes back from the brink of something and actually like has a positive story and a positive experience of learning something and being wrong but not feeling bad yeah and not judging themselves and just being like wow that was a learning opportunity you know and today I'm gonna just just an amazing amazing human being I can't mention by name but if that person's ever watching they have like my like total respect as a person yeah I think this is one of the just one of the many things though that we're looking for in the next Agers that yeah there is a level of humility and I think that level of humility comes from being given freedom to experiment and to discover who you truly are yeah so that when because a person who doesn't really knows who they are they have a confidence that they don't they're not worried about what other people think but they also carry a level of humility that they're able to listen to what other people think right on and process it without you know being defensive yeah so that's a it's a that's probably a pretty big jump but I really believe that there are many people that are getting there and going there and again it's that freedom and people who trusting that you're not gonna judge me because I did something wrong or because I tried something that didn't work honestly the judgments and criticism and all of those things I think have their written fear yes right yes as we're learning to shift into love and operating from love then we can let those those things go and be the community in the relationship that God intended and I really believe this next generation is looking for yeah I mean there's so many things the convergence of so many things happening in in our world are just setting things up for this next shift and I you know I really do hope that there will be as much turmoil yeah that there's been in previous eight ships because I mean especially from you know after Jesus the Christians and all the turmoil that they went through I would love to think that we could make this shift without as much turmoil but we don't know we didn't do our product placement moment yes we started it and then we got into another issue yeah let's go yeah do you want to do the same as product placement moment with ekklesia right you were going others yeah we started but we started like they the easiest place to go to right now if you want to get started on the ultimate impact is go to ultimate impact movement calm and that will that will start you down that process there's a few videos to watch there to see if you're interested and then if you think you that that you are interested it's a two week free trial so you might as well jump in and see what you think it's been it's been really good we've got some really high yeah conversion rates you know which says a lot to me that and people want what we're putting out there because they go into the trial and most of them almost all of them are staying with it because it's bringing that community in that foundation that people are looking for I'm not surprised by that I've seen the testimonies and they're always so positive people keep saying such great things about having this continual resource to guide them through this transition that they're going through so amazing testimonies what it is is it you know to discipleship courses its deciphering people into this movement but it's laying the foundation and then giving them a place to work you know it's like a it's like a you know a runway giving the most race so that they launch and then it's like you know what after after you kind of get these basics we encourage people to go ahead and go check out some of these other people we're gonna put them on the website Kingdom talks with Mediacom that one is still being built out but you're already on there with some of your courses hoping to get Nancy Koehn on there and whoever else wants to play we want to put them on there with you know ideally no strings attached in the sense that we're not going to be saying go to that one or go to that one it's going to be up to you we're not here to tell you what to believe you're presenting the expo yes everyone has got the booth yeah and you just housed the expo so that beautiful next hid that you're gonna say sometimes all I was going to say is part of that is we encourage people to do that as groups because then that communicates okay down we don't have groups all over the nation yet we have some but we also have some online groups which I will be honest in the beginning I was like be kidding very relational we're looking forward to potentially storing another group in September and so encourage you to keep in touch yeah and then you've got some exciting things yeah yeah if you want to come to some meetings the next one that I'm doing is in the beginning of September in Anderson South Carolina the state I lived in for you know close to what was it 14 years but never did anything there I had to go to Florida yeah so that's a convergence of the aegis set of meetings it's a weekend there I'll be in Baton Rouge at the end of September are not Baton Rouge Denham Springs which is just around Baton Rouge Louisiana and then of course October with you all November in Nashville with James Schroeder and then and then Arabian falls the following weekend and if you want to know the specifics I've put it on Facebook and then it's odd my blessed neglected website which is so which is discover the heavens org and that is an exercise in humility is that website and there's nothing about that website that is grandstanding itself it is a really it's just a beautiful way to say we haven't worked on this yet but they're but they're there and the Flyers are there on the front page and all the information are on the Flyers so you can go to discover that heavens door and there's products there too and eventually you can do the online class on there we're just getting that started I've got an online class starting the end of August and that's the 21 day imaginations booster which I'm really I've enjoyed so I've already filmed the first week of those and they are 20 to 25 minutes they're designed for one a day whoever does it don't you dare watch more than one because it's really it's supposed to be habit for me yeah and all it is is just trying to expand people's imaginations so that their heavenly excursions have like more potential right so sometimes or just we just need to wake up the potential of the imagination so they are heaven visits each one of them I talk for like 8 to 10 minutes to set it up and then the rest of it is us going you know and so you know most of those classes are pre-recorded about a third of them will be live but even if you're not there they're all archived and they'll be in a file that you can access for as long as you want whenever you want and and then the end of September I'm starting a four-week Archangel discovery I love the Angelica Brown I've done this this very class a few years ago but we did it all this was this will be like to be on Zune and everyone will be doing it together I'll talk for like 20-30 minutes to set up a lot of history this is historically who these Archangels were known to be then I'll set up us meeting them because they're personifying these like you know Michael Uriel Gabriel Raphael they're personifying big swaths of like human experience like they are personas buying creation but it's not like one aspect yeah good personifying big aspects that are very inclusive of all these different kinds of things I think if the father knows them I just think it's worth knowing them I mean I yeah I mean like just to undersell it I just like it's worth it because it's what God's doing yeah so that's something we should bring here now again there's lots of great testimonies from people that did that a few years ago of just the connection and what that connection produces in their life any kind of relationship with spiritual beings that are personifying creation it's gonna produce good things of course if it's done in the safe way that we do it you know so that's the end of September and you can go to discover the heavens org I think my first class might be up there right now but you can I guess I just want to encourage people I know there's a lot of things out there when we put stuff on the table it's not saying that you have to eat everything on the table right and we encourage do not encourage spiritual blending yeah we do encourage spiritual activation in so know from your heart what God is saying hey this is really good for this time and that don't get into the hobo miss out right there's no fear in you know the what they call it full month fear of missing out it doesn't exist if we're truly operating in the spirit because we get to rest in him knowing that he is guiding and then no turn that we've made a surprised in right and we can just stay perfectly positioned wherever we're going in separate well bless you all thank you all for watching and we are looking forward to seeing you next time I'm not sure who we got coming up next I need to look at the schedule yeah and apologize for that you know the color the lighting the sound may be a little off but hey we're traveling and able to do this in person which is fun yeah bless you all thank you for writing here take care bye bye

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Published: Mon Aug 05 2019