Chinese virologist Li-Meng Yan speaks to WION's Palki Sharma Upadhyay | Wuhan Whistleblower | WION

[Music] hello and welcome to straight talk our guest today is a very special one dr lee meng yan the chinese virologist who has said that the wuhan virus was made in a chinese government lab dr yan welcome to beyond you've created quite a stir with your claims why do you say that the wuhan virus was made in a laboratory okay as i mentioned in my first report and also i will stress the other thing from my the next coming report that the evidence left in the virus genome from the cells cova2 virus clearly show that this virus is not from nature and it is based on the chinese military discover and owns a very special joshian bad kroner virus they say 45 and zxc21 after the lab modification and become this harmful highly contagious and lisa virus so there are all the scientific evidence i presented in my two reports besides i have other intelligence and based on my knowledge so all together people can understand the data that is definitely come from the lab what about the bad theory and the link to the wuhan wet market uh it means market so that is just a smoke screen from chinese communist party because as i mentioned in the other interview that i want a son to do the sacred investigation about the unknown pneumonia in wuhan from last december 31 representative of who reference mob in the university of hong kong so from my investigation all the things clearly found that there is no any animal evidence left in the woohan seafood market from the beginning and the chinese communist party the government knew it but somehow they clearly they declined the white market from even first january this year and just provides 33 pieces of the environmental samples from that market and all the samples could be collected by chinese government not from the expert not from the expert overseas and then among all these environmental samples only one sample from the water shows positive to the virus but chinese communist party government try to make people believe that animals are the host from the seafood market so at the beginning chinese communist party government asked all the diagnosis tests have to be based on that history to disabled market that means if you haven't into the market and you already get infected by someone who went to the market but you cannot get diagnosis and also they deny human to human transmission to cover it and they change the number of the cases also in the mid january 16 january without every evidence already someone sent the information to my lab to my supervisor who consultant professor neil punk said try to investigate the requiem dog it may be the potential holster and as we know now all these things are done because the ryan cannot find out the host you've made some very startling claims and you've said that they knew about human to human transmission they knew that the virus had a high mutation rate how much did the top levels of the chinese government know at the time of the outbreak do you believe that president xi also knew what was going on this is a communist party jew in the government trust me this seems outcome to the top and not only among the top people for this kind of human to human transmission at that time although in early january there are some experts from the headquarters and the china cdc coded to the journalists and also allow it to be spreaded but the other expert in this field including the doctors and even just the local doctors they knew this is why because there are already family clusters happened in wuhan in december and also there are more patients than they claimed in december and wuhan and the more and more evidence accumulated so everyone has a knowledge get into that situation they knew that it's a mind not only the high level government officers so let me get this straight dr yan you're saying that the government knew what was going on that at the very top levels including president xi was involved in the cover-up and they hid the number of cases in wuhan yes and also the people knew these cases knew these situations are told to be silent because from even december 31 when uh my uh i tried to reach to the doctors and wuhan and they are scared they they are not to tell that even through wechat or phone call and that is a contagious disease they just told people that don't talk about a and also wear masks these are the things and also in the mid january again my supervisor the hong kong that issue consultant top chronovirology is the professor neil paul told me that be careful when i do the investigation don't cross the right eye if not i will be in trouble and i will be despaired that's also how those experts collaborated co operated with the chinese communist party including wh including the peer-reviewed journals and staff nature all they together work together to push the major origin theory to the public so you were told that you should not cross the red line you've said that a who-affiliated lab was aware of the high mutation rate and human to human transmission and they to hit the information was the who also equally a part of this cover-up only this lab or to the highest levels uh i can tell you that for the chronovirus expert i mean in my lab previous lab in the university of hong kong that map is the top one ranked by the l series in the world because back to start time and later most time and now the kobe 19 time that's all the three times for the chronovirus very harmful to people lead to outbreak in our history but my previous lab was the core team which fight with the virus and did a lot of great study so this as a top branch of the chronovirus biology see at behind the who provides a technique consulting uh the information and also gives them support so there is no doubt that they already know the information i respond to them and they have established their own directly uh that age to the chinese cities as i know and also they respond to that hr so wh the surveillance and to give the consultant you made startling claims as i keep saying i think what does your report do to xi jinping's global image i mean my first report right yes so my first report actually uh because chinese communist party nwo and all their friends in the scientific world came telling that i've used scientific evidence to tell people the truth of kermit 19 so my first report based on the genome from the south korea2 virus my people to understand why it is not from nature but from the map and it's like we analyze a human's fingerprint for the moment so this is the thing cannot lie this is the thing you cannot use a parameter definition to make it blur so you just read it you will see for the non-harmful bad chronovirus discovered and owned by chinese military lab later after the modification and each step were very well applied and the publications published by the chinese communist party includes the labs and also with this expertise and the unique material they changed the bad pronoun virus but also after the evidence of the modification in the genome all these things i even showed you in the part two how could they make egg in uh within six months right dr yan i'm asking what do you think this report does to xi jinping's global image how do you think the chinese government would have responded when you first came out with your accusations i i don't know how exactly she's thinking now but what i know a chinese communist party tried to make me silence from even eight end of april when they know i'm the one who delivers a message out through the moodle's broadcast from mid-january and kept doing that so they tried to make me despaired and after i escaped visiting hours the whole government knew these things and the hong kong placement the ministry of security state in beijing and also my hometown qingdao's placement to work together with the university of hong kong vice chancellor professor john xiang with my alarm nice with people they can recruited investigate my home street my family and told people there is no privacy of me and from the mid may and also yes the university of hong kong shut down my email and delete my profile also i still in the annual leave at that time and then later in the mid-may before i went to fox news for the public presentation they already spread the rumors ahmad through the cyber military on twitter on facebook using the fake account with my profiles and later they tried their best to make me silent which doesn't work so when i try to publish my papers first i choose to use a preprint bioactive under the code spring laboratory but that website just before it published my uh report get broke down that is we believe it is hacked and i just turned to sonata the announcer on my website to publish my paper and suddenly after that sonata got attacked and later my twitter official account was shut down immediately without any reason just because i recommend my report and a lot of other reports come out from new york time from denver beast from national geographic i mean from one way to hold my mouth don't allow me to talk and from the other way they bring some fake news based on eyes and clearly miss information to drive people's attention from reading my report and into their himalayas conclusion but i already showed the report online so people can go to open access website to trade it by yourself verified right so you know how the chinese communist state operates and how they would react but were you surprised when twitter also suspended your account for fake news excuse me can you repeat again my question is that that you probably would knew what to expect from the chinese government but were you surprised when twitter decided to suspend your account calling your information or your paper fake news i'm not that surprised although they even shut down my name uh anonymous that another account which shares the same phone with my official account that means totally they check my ip and try to make me shut up and also facebook did it but i already know that chinese communist party and their friends they are very powerful they are very influenced and that's not the first thing twitter facebook did for example i complained about the fake account under my profile for months no response from them and also they just shut down me but the amount the other people like the chinese minister minister like geology are watching the virus come from salmon come from outer space come from u.s so i'm not that surprised so you're saying that the chinese regime is influencing social media giants to silence critics i think that is something now more and more well known by the public now let's talk about your report dr yan you've authored a 26 page report with three other researchers but the scientific community has overwhelmingly rejected your report they've called it unscientific and false yes i know that their conclusion but why i choose to publish hmr is because i knew that would happen superior reveals through this kind of authorities you see what they have done w.h.o told people there is no human to human transmission although they already knew it who told people no need to wear masks and there will never be an outbreak and also they told people hydrocarboxyl cholecra is some very harmful drug without any effect will help to treat or prevent the cova-19 all these sincerely and for the peer review journals like landsat nature science count how many peer review papers was withdrawn because of fake data or other problems in the history so this urgent time people deserve to choose everyone has the right to read the report and to verify by themselves i need the reason i miss the housing did it i did in the over 100 reference papers at the end of my report you can choose it like the changer map to say who have done this things before who have using these traditional techniques to make such things and publish it and be the expert in the world and you will understand why people in that scientific world who support the nature origin theory who don't doubt anything in the nature origin theory who can keep silent are so scared of this report i don't mind their attack this is not for me not for myself from the early beginning i decided to deliver the message out i know my life will be in at any moment but i just want people to read the things to understand the fact this will make it to you and your family and the people you care and the future and the most important thing is how to end this historic pandemic from the beginning and in the future right but your paper is a scientific paper and uh just playing the devil's advocate here dr yan uh the charges against or the criticism against you is this that you did not go for a peer review uh that your study may have a negative impact on the efforts uh to to fight this pandemic the university of hong kong where you were doing your research said that you never conducted any research on human to human transmission of the coronavirus and that your claims have no scientific basis why do you think so many scientists from the world over are challenging what you're seeing because chinese communist party has get off the fact and also their friend they're scared of the fact that review that at that time they will be blamed what i can tell you is you can go to search my paper they said i'm just a hamster keeper i am someone who knew nasi but i have the ko first ulcer paper in nature which is a good paper recommended by assuming by the scientists for the animal model and the transmission model in kobe 19 and i have a very high citation landscape infectious disease paper in kobe 19. i also have my patent for the universal influenza vaccine i'm painting all these together show if hong kong you deny my work that's primaries and i have evidence that i was secreted for this investigation also my report was read by the relevant people and u.s government even before i publish it and the feedback are all the positive strongly supported so no matter whether they criticize me in no peer review or nonsense things i can tell you that this paper is already read by the people who are qualified and acknowledged your paper and your co-authors have been linked to what is called the rule of law society it's a political organization it is not a research organization it is linked to exile chinese billionaire ghoul wengui and steve bannon the former chief strategist of u.s president donald trump and experts say that this affiliation of yours is a conflict of interest what are your links with the rule of law society and why do you need the support of a political organization for a research project i have to explain that this is nothing about politics just people related to politics so if they criticize the foundation what i can tell you is from the july in the first interview in fox news i already told people ike escaped from hong kong escaped from the surveillance from hong kong and chinese communist party government to u.s is because the foundation view of our foundation helped me that is a foundation that people try to reveal the truth to anti-chinese communist party and donate the money to do aid they help the people like me who want to reveal the truth and fight with the evil regime so for me that is the organization which has saved my life from many many people behind they pay the money and even paid their life to help me out to tell the truth to the world without their help i cannot stand out and people may never know that there is a witness who want to reveal the scenes to enter chinese communist party to the world and to think me with a political uh purpose it's very himalayas let's say did hara get money from the chinese communist party before or could mit deny that so those scientists work in those uh institute i mean they also get money from china from chinese communist party so can we say they have the political purpose just because they got money support their research so and also i have the hong kong how could i put institute under the university of hong kong or other institute that's nothing about the fact in my paper that's just a thing to tell people that i appreciate those people who helped me come out to give me the chance to tell the world very interesting dr yan a lot has been written about china funding think tanks and media organizations now you're saying china may be influencing social media giants as well can china according to you also influence studies and findings on the wuhan virus oh so ken can you be talking sorry i'm saying that there's a lot that has been written about china's funding and influence on the press on think tanks on institutes you're saying they're influencing social media giants do you believe the chinese state can also influence studies and research on the wuhan valley of course of course i've been there for many years i studied get my md phd degree from the two top medical universities in china i knew many many people have my vast network in hospitals and in institute including the army ones also the authorities in china and also i worked in hong kong for several for many years yet not eight years almost and in the whole lab for over five years so all my experience and my knowledge can tell you chinese communist parties money and power influence the whole world more far more beyond your image nation and they are using a very uh how to say that hidden way and even some people they get influenced about they don't understand or finally once in reality they have catholic of ancients but they cannot tell at all all they are scared of six of these things and yeah of course there are people who are a nonsense but uh what i want to tell people is for me this example you can see how powerful they influence the whole world how much does china know about how to control the virus is this why china's numbers are lesser than the rest of the world and if it is a lab-made virus has the world been able to understand its threat properly yeah so that's the things i really hope people can investigate and understand it soon as possible because it's related to everyone's health and future so the first thing you have to remember that this is the labor or origins well it comes from the map on purpose so that means first we are the expert in the biology we know there is never only one virus come out during some project at one time usually they have a group of virus candidates and also once they make this kind of thing or function project they also will try other type of virus so image this is just the first time and this is already make the historic pandemic so what will happen later remember the chinese communist party government also want the word that this one won't stop and this one will ask another thing is you have to come make the people who did it accountable not only the scientists who work together with them also this regime the chinese communist party is the reason did it so you have to hold it accountable to get the voices of things happen again and the third thing is go to do the ceremony investigation into the maps and you will see that there may be some more and more evidence to show it and to let people understand the virus then you can find out the way to finally solve this problem right you were told by your seniors uh in the university of hong kong to not cross the red line you must have seen the fate that other chinese whistleblowers met like dr lee wen liang of wuhan and yet you chose to come out and tell your story why did you do this dr yan just because i'm the doctor and i'm the scientist when i say the fact when i got the information and i have my knowledge i understand i knew what it is and i see who an overseas expert who i respected before there is no response from them and the chinese communist party they tried to use this way to chase the world i mean this is urgent time at that time back to the january 17th i made the decision to deliver the message out by myself so i contacted mr luda to help me deliver it to the youtube because i want the world to know the truth at that time it was the chinese new year transportation period wuhan was the biggest hub in the world image those people travel around without any protection surveillance this virus will be spread to all over china and all over the world and the overseas expert has to push the chinese communist party to do the investigation and to admit the things to hold it in control that is what i said and also i did to buddhist youtube in 19th january i know this will give me the life threatening to me to my family but no choice if i don't do it at that time i will be regretful in my life and i know i will move the capacity to tell the truth in the future in my life i was going to ask you do you feel your life is under threat it clearly is what do you plan to do next dr yan so first i will publish the second scientific report soon as possible and also the same time i'm collaborating with the relevant people in u.s and i will provide and i have already provided many evidence and i hope to push these things to the right direction make more and more people see clearly what it is why you are all involved into this horrible pandemic and it should have been i mean get avoided from the very early beginning no one should lose their life no one should get hurt in this pandemic and finally i hope people to understand that who should be countable and understand that chinese communist party is an evil regime we should work together to post to the real origin and the fact of kuwait 90 and call the the people who did it accountable and the regime which needed to accountable do you believe the world will listen to uh to whistleblowers like you do you believe that china will be held to account for this pandemic i mean i cannot control the other people what i can do is i provide inheritance i try my best to tell it out and people can verify my evidence but not let me keep silent in twitter and facebook which is very unfair so i wish to do my best from the beginning to now even in the future and to let people know the things and people verify it by yourself you can choose which side you want to listen to that's your right but the thing is you have to have the right to knew the two sides the voice and knew the things from people like me dr lee mingyan thanks very much for joining us here on beyond and stay safe thank you pakki we're taking a very short break the news continues here on beyond thanks for watching [Music] you

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Length: 28min 24sec (1704 seconds)

Published: Tue Sep 22 2020

Reddit Comments

[u/techmighty]

This looks fake. she immediately starting to blame CCP without actually talking about virus and what markers had led her to believe that it lab made virus which is her field.

[u/KaiPoChe_Canadian]

What I got from the interview is, "She knows this was done by china, but she was not part of the inner circle of scientist."

So a claim without a proof which seems to be a trend in western countries lately.

[u/Mumbaikarsevak]

WION is probably the first channel in the whole world to interview her.