Charging a non-Tesla at a Tesla Supercharger!

hey what's up y'all I'm kibishi here and today I'm going to try something a little different see up until yesterday uh there were basically two types of electric cars Teslas and non-teslas basically and I say that because as far as charging when you leave your house you go on a road trip the charging Network you have available to use as you move for Teslas they can use Tesla superchargers which are extremely reliable Plug and Play super fast optimized for the car or a public charger as a backup kind of like this one see a model 3 charger it's a public charger and then for every other electric car it's public Chargers now I did my video recently about this about the the public charger experience which is not exactly ideal there are issues with uptime there are issues with reliability showing up at a charger it's broken showing up at a charger you're not sure if it's going to be full or not there's less than optimal experiences there but today is the first day that that is actually a little bit different because Tesla has opened up a couple of Select superchargers to be used by non-tesla EVS so I'm in the rivian r1t today as you can tell and I'm gonna go find one of these because I looked on the map and one of them's kind of close to me and we're gonna figure out uh what that's like and sort of answer the questions around it so what's gonna have to happen is if you have a non-tesla EV you open the Tesla app you make an account and you scroll all the way over and you can see there's charge your non-tesla and you hit that and as of right now uh there's not a huge list I don't know why I defaulted to Africa just now interesting but when I zoom in it starts to show me non-tesla Chargers in my area or near me and as you can see some of these are like regular not super fast Chargers but there are some superchargers that have popped up a lot of them are in the New York area and one of them right here looks like it has three stalls available it's in Brewster New York it's a 250 kilowatt charger and I'm gonna arrive there with 98 miles of range left so I'm gonna go I'm gonna plug in and we'll see what happens foreign Okay so we've arrived there are a bunch of charges here eight of them someone else is charging got here with 30 battery left and already you can see a little bit of a difference there's a sign here that says scan for instructions to charge a non-tesla and what it's going to do is take you to instructions on how to sign up for an account get in the app and do what we're about to do here so hopefully there's no Reflections here let's do it charger non-tesla I'm gonna have to talk about where I've parked in a second this is a concern but we'll get into this this is the charger that we're at Brewster New York 250 kilowatts shows it's 39 cents per kilowatt with the membership 49 without charge here and this is going to ask me which stall I'm at so instead of just plug and play like a normal Tesla I gotta go okay that's 1A this is 1B so I'm gonna hit 1B and now let's look at what happens with the retrofit so the front of the r1t is where our charge port is and for these select Chargers Tesla has retrofitted this built-in CCS adapter on the end of the plug so typically with a Tesla you just pop this cable out and plug it in but with the rivian or any other CCS charger it looks like that which won't fit so a built-in adapter needs to be unlocked and I hit unlock push the handle into the dock then pull out to remove okay let's try it fair enough that worked out for me let's plug it into the car I heard the pin lock already which is good and ideally that is the closest thing to a plug and play experience we'll have with a rivian wow it's actually already working 60 miles an hour 34 minutes to full charge and we are moving a hundred miles an hour of charging solid that was really quick okay let's talk so a couple things to note here one if this was a Tesla it would be Plug and Play you just hit the button plug into your car and your car tells you everything about the charging experience here this car tells me some stuff but also the app is telling me some other things like right now with my current cold battery I have a 143 kilowatt charging speed which is pretty good it's going to tell me how much this charge session is costing and I can always stop charging at any point if I want to but there are a couple other things to note now as I mentioned the charge port on the r1t is front left oh you can hear the fans gone this is what supercharging is like most Teslas and as you saw before when that person was over there actually every single Tesla has the charge port on the back left So currently this truck is parked in a spot that would actually be occupied by someone who's over here if I was sitting parked here I would charge here but now I'm blocking that spot so if there were more cars here I would actually have needed two free spots to charge with this car where the port is on the wrong side and that's really the theme of the charging with a non-tesla experience I mean it's working which is amazing and that's already pretty sweet but yeah it's non-optimized this cable length this parking grid layout you can see back here it's optimized for someone to pull in here and plug in on the park left and the back left and everyone else will plug in facing out it's not optimized in that way you also won't have your battery pre-conditioned and warming up on your way to the charger for optimized super fast charging and also it's not going to be the fastest charging potentially even able to be accepted by your vehicle this rivian is capable of more than what it's accepting right now but with this 400 volt set up with what's designed for a Tesla you're not going to max out the rivian or some other really fast charging EVS all right what are we at now 146 kilowatts still nice six kilowatts delivered charging at 325 miles an hour nice I mean it's as simple as that it's it's awesome that this now works and if you are a driver of a non-tesla EV you now have this choice of going around working with public Chargers and risking it because let's be honest it's a little bit risky or the reliability and uptime of a potentially slightly more expensive per unit Tesla Supercharger uh which I think I would pick every time so this this changes for me this changes a lot of EVs and how and how likely I would be to recommend or buy them really the idea I think with Tesla doing this in such a small amount of chargers is roll it out slowly and see how it goes because I do think this charging spot thing is going to be the biggest question mark the biggest issue like this is a pretty empty charger this is one that's kind of up in New York in the sort of more rural areas I would say this is not the busiest charger in the world I wonder what would happen if they went to one of their busiest superchargers that has a line for Teslas in California or something like that and you suddenly have a truck like this you have a bolt you have an arivian you have an ev6 you have an ionic and they're all messily parked and not optimized because now suddenly you're taking up two spots for what would normally be one I feel like we kind of just have to see how it goes if I was like a huge Tesla person I would probably be worried about you know my own Tesla experience will it get worse because more people are charging potentially you'll have more people waiting in line more people taking up more spots um but like I said for right now it's only a few there's maybe a dozen of these superchargers retrofitted with this magic dock uh all in the US right now and they all look like this and I think it's a pretty clever integration it's worked clearly super well I'm charging I don't have any complaints this just made my rivian a better truck um but I think that's the strategy roll it out to a few and we'll see how it goes look I'm not the only one trying it today it just lit up on the app so definitely worth a shot all right I'm here with a couple fellow Chargers now because you're with a model 3. all three right uh there is another model three an F-150 Lightning and the rivian r1t and the lucid and this is the thing we're gonna we're gonna start noticing is when more non-teslas start to charge I think the etiquette is gonna have to be you have to ask someone to move over because at this point if if now we get one more F-150 Lightning or somebody with the charge port on the left there's a spot but they can't use it and there's a spot but they can't use it so that's going to be kind of interesting that's the first time that's ever you know what they also removed the charger from over there from the corner if you look you see they're not like as staggered as they normally are right they put that one as like a pull-in yeah and so now the lucid's like sticking out yeah because it's got the charger on the front it's interesting it's never been like this you're making a video too right yeah absolutely so you you've got the last available spot that this could park yeah because if now I don't think it's gonna reach so the F-150 Lightning is parked as far up as it can possibly get for this front left charging spot yeah hold it out there we go it worked and does the cable reach for that F-150 this is what we're talking about right here oh the flat I don't think so much no that's not gonna reach that's just barely I mean you could theoretically pull up two inches but that's is it two inches yeah it's two inches if you want me to spot you I can try otherwise it's you're gonna have to go sideways I think I'm gonna have to get closer I think if I get two inches closer this way and then two inches up and just tap the front it's gonna work but right now it's not gonna work this is going to be a huge problem yep for a lot of people so yeah that's what we're talking about this is uh probably the first time and not the last time that you're gonna start to see this like shuffling of who can charge where maybe you move over so I can charge here hopefully people are nice about it but there's gonna be a little bit of an etiquette question when you've got cars that are not exactly optimized trying to figure it out we pull up as far as I possibly could be good for this for this table I don't like I don't like stretching it like that I think I just you got a click no no I I could possibly push it in but it's not good now do I have any room up front Marquis I'm here with Marcus Brownlee he's charging his living in r1t you've got a a little push of maybe three four five inches all right let's let's try that if you're bold could you hold this for me I gotta lock it again yep let's pull up a little bit more it's a little further back oh there's the snow bank here makes it kind of tough that's as close as you can get right there that was enough to lock it now all right this is not ideal you don't want to strain your cable like this this is definitely not what you want um we're doing it now and we are charging all right so you're charging you've you've got it plugged in where can they find your video when you publish it so I have a YouTube channel called state of charge it's completely dedicated to electric vehicle charging got a nice little logo too there we go perfect so check theirs out F-150 owners take note until then I'm gonna head out so that's the end of my charge and I guess the beginning of the experience of non-testless charging Tesla superchargers you know I ended my charge I went from 30 to 85 percent in like half an hour it costs 30 bucks it worked as expected it improves the truck but let me know what you think of this sort of a game changer I kind of think it is one thanks for watching see you next one

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Keywords: magic dock, MKBHD, Rivian, lucid, f150 lightning, tesla supercharger, Tesla, Supercharger

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Length: 12min 6sec (726 seconds)

Published: Wed Mar 01 2023