Cedric the Entertainer on Kevin Hart, Tiffany Haddish, Steve Harvey & more | Ep. 61 | CLUB SHAY SHAY

you could do stand up when you're doing the movie you can't do really can't do television in the movie at the same time unless you're Kevin Hart you know I'm saying Lord knows I don't know how do I expect the leprechaun he just do it all like you know I don't know I don't know how he's sleeping I was like he was on the commercial after the commercial one day I caught him I said Kevin enough all right all my life grinding all my life sacrifice hustle baby price wanna slice got to roll a dice that's why all my life I be grinding all my life all my life been running all my life [Music] all my life hello welcome to another edition of Club shayshay I am your host Shannon sharp I'm also the proprietor Club shayshay the guy that's stopping by for conversation and a drink today man he wears a lot of hat he's an actor comedian game show host executive producer director entrepreneur he also has a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame one of the original OG's of the Kings of Comedy over three decades in the industry the legend Cedric the Entertainer what up bro what's going on hold on I don't think I've ever read this minute that's nice comedian game show host executive producer director entrepreneur yeah star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame yeah the OG yeah two Taco Bells in Omaha Nebraska [Laughter] I see I thought they were saying Taco Bells of all the things that I read off what are you most proud of uh you know I think for me it's just you know um all of it I love I love to act I love being a father I love being a husband I like being I like you know uh making people laugh on all platforms okay so I really just like the fact that more than anything you can wear all those in my career it said that I've tried to do it and and have done a lot of things you mentioned you were talking you and I was talking on camera and you say you grew up in Crothersville yeah Missouri which is a small town near the Arkansas border moved to St Louis when you were growing up in Caruthersville what was Cedric what were you thinking what did he want to be you know I mean at that time you know you wanted to be an athlete everybody that was a small town lifestyle you know so you know you you were like kind of taught to play sports and my mother was a school teacher so you know education was a big part of it I'm great yeah yeah so that was a big part of my you know kind of like uh internal household it's just my mother and my younger sister myself and so but you know the relatives all your uncles and cousins it's like yo you gotta play sports man you got to get out of here okay so but I was also a very as a young kid I can remember being a very kind of fun gregarious kid like that had the jokes and was quick with it right even as a kid but you couldn't be too because your mom was a school teacher she was gonna hear about you after the fooling class and I told people that I said I never really I never was the class clown everyone like you was the class clown I'm like nah I just shoot mine because they they actually when we moved to St Louis they were actually my mother taught in the same school district that we went to okay she taught Elementary we were in we were you know I was more in uh in junior high school at that time and so but the teachers all knew each other so they was like oh you know if I did something crazy they called my mother quick I remember I wanted to be bad one year and I didn't smoke but I just want to hang out with all the kids that had like smoke cigarettes and my grades dropped I'm almost like what is going on I just want to be bad mama I was gonna be bad what what would the PTA meetings like uh with the with the mom yeah I mean you know again for the most part she just kind of sit there and you know here want to hear what we did and you know and what we did wrong what she was always there there's one reason why also like I was a pretty good athlete right but my mother was a single mother raising us and she picked me up from football practice one time and because I didn't really know all the stuff I was in just my junior junior high my freshman year I'm in football practice with some Church socks on so I got because I wanted to look good I had my I had my my athletic socks on right and then I had some matching like you know Church socks right that look good with my uniform and my coach saw it and just was like what you doing pretty boy it makes him basically made me be the tackle dummy for the linebackers and the and the defensive end and I was just literally running play my mother came to pick me up and saw them saw them big dudes who put me in the ground that was it I was off the football team that was it that was that was like that I was big and she's like nah they ain't gonna do I ain't gonna do my baby like that okay so now your athletic career is over that's over when did you realize that you wanted to be a comedian how did that happen uh you know that was really much later to be honest you know I was uh like I said as I got and gotta got transitioned from Athletics started doing the school plays okay a wild choice to make back then okay now how did that how I did that did that you know again it was a certain stigma to that back in there even more in that time you know what I'm saying so you know the fact that you know the fact that I wanted to be in place then it became this thing like oh are you too much of a mama's boy you know but you know I was funny in my first play I got in I played I don't even remember what the character was but I remember it was funny and I made people laugh so acting was probably the first thing that you wanted to do even before becoming a comedian probably it didn't recognize it right didn't didn't have but uh and at that time the schools had those kind of programs right yeah we had band we had you know uh you know plays and you know yeah and it was it was serious by the time I got to high school like it was like dope teachers and people really taught you how to act and so you know I became strong at that and that's kind of you know the choice I made from there on out so you're doing you're doing the drama thing knowing the stigmatism that the stigma that came with that because you're probably making fun of you so you're like okay when did you realize that you could make something of this you know I think you know like again during those times I sang in groups I was like you know kind of where the whole name came where I used to sing I used to dance I was trying to I told my mother I wanted to go to like a high school like Fame right okay you know at that time I was like Mom I could do all that you know and the only one we had in St Louis was like in the inner city and it was like really far you know 20 miles from my house I would have had to take the buses again see a single mother she didn't pull me off the football team ain't no way she's gonna let me take a bus across town to go to school so that was out so so but you know I just did what I you know could in that area got in singing groups always was like trying to perform different ways and you know I think that was that's when I knew I could entertain the crowd right but it didn't really happen until like you know I got in college and I started like doing a radio show and just all these kind of things just led to me recognizing my personality and I could hold the audience right and you know and I started comedy much later than like I was out I was out of school I was working for State Farm and a dude that was a comedian used to borrow things that I say and was like yo you could be a comedian right and he just told me that signed me up for a comedy competition how did you come up with the name Cedric the Entertainer that was uh I told the story before it's a very it's out I don't know what you call it Serendipity right right like I I was uh I used to go by a lot of different names I used to have you know I do it with Cheerios Cheerio lit of all the names of all the names hey man so all I remember was it used to be a comedian named Kodak okay and you know and he used to go by Kodak everybody knew him and he had the one name so I had my name my name is Cedric I used to do by Cedric and then when people announced my real last name I just didn't really like that as a comedian name so I was trying to come up with a name and so I was like see cheer cheer me happy and you know my name is Cedric it's a c in it I'm like Cheerios like yeah he just came out I had the necklace and everything dog I used to had a chain so you go so obviously okay you start out you doing the acting you like the drama aspect of it but you go to the comedian side yeah did you know eventually that becoming a comedian would lead you to be in movies well it was starting to be around that time like you know like this is this is me this is late 80s 87-ish 89. so you start to see like of course we had the super famous guys so it was you know Richard Pryor and the Bill Cosby he's at that time of the red foxes but then Eddie Murphy was popping off right yeah and he was young he was a guy that felt like us right so you started to see like oh young people then you know shortly after came the you know the living colors and then people you started to know people like Martin and then you know and I at that time just through stand up met Steve Harvey so right it was one of those one of those times where you started to recognize like all right cool comedy could be a way out like you know it started to grow oh but you know beforehand you could you would just think you could never because everybody was big time you know if you you didn't know the low low level people you only knew the big names and there was very few of them so that didn't really seem like a true path you know to start them you mentioned that you get you got you're starting the late 80s but you see the transition that a lot of the comedians made you look at Richard Pryor being a comedian and then he's huge yes you see Eddie Murphy comedian he's he's obviously red fox and some of the others did you think hey that could be my path once once it started to happen like once I tried stand up and you know I mean the first the first time I ever did it I got to say Innovation and won 500 so I I what hey you know that was the most money I made at one time because I had jobs I had corporate jobs and did well but not like somebody hand you a bunch of cash like he was like yo like you know and I started doing the math like if I can do this right three nights a week I'll be killing my job where you do where so why are you selling so you're selling insurance and you're with State Farm yeah are you doing the comedian on the side yeah I was a claims adjuster so I handled the wreck afterwards okay okay and show up you know so you don't want to understand it ain't worth that it's like yeah I'll give you 500 on a total car yeah exactly well you go but you know your peoples though they be coming there trying to you this is a classic say yeah no that's a Cutlass I know you love it but that's not I can't give you all the money you're trying to get for that when when you told your mom that you like Mom this corporate thing ain't for me I'm about to become a comedian full-time what was her response you know that was a tough one because my mother again she's from a small town worked her way up through college definitely believed in get you a job corporate that was the journey that everybody did at that time if you weren't you know like an athlete and you know gonna be in the NFL or the NBA then you know your best bet was to get a good you know get a college degree get a good corporate job and work your way up that was it and I was on that path I'm working with State Farm I got like an opportunity I wear suit and tie I got a little I got a little corporate card I got a company credit card she like those are the things that you want in life and I was like no I don't so I remember I told her I wanted to quit and you know and do comedy but I had a strategy I'll say I'm not gonna just quit I want to try to work my way to uh you know where it makes sense but I definitely don't want to do this job right this is not my 30 years yeah it's not me and she was like a little saddened by that you know thinking that that was a good plan but I remember I told her a joke that I wrote man I wish I could remember this joke exactly but I just remember I told her a joke that I had written and we stand in the kitchen at our my childhood house and she laughed so hard she went to the ground okay and that's my vivid memory of my mother getting who I am you know like so it was like it was just a dope moment because I still just remember the fact she laughed that hard like she was just right she was on the ground and so that was like dope and so um and then she came to a couple of shows I remember she told me not to curse so you know like it's so early on in my career I'm kind of known for not cursing people think to this day people still think I don't curse when I do comedy but it ain't [ __ ] true laughs so when your mom come do you have to alter your material when your mom's in the audience for sure I mean you know like to a degree I mean I I end up of course trying to honor that and write to things that were just bright and smart and things that right try to have a little more context to them uh but you know if I had jokes that I felt like was a little risque for her I probably wouldn't do it if she was at the show like you know that would be that would be a choice to just you know just respect on GP but but you know it was things that if I felt I didn't I mean we had to talk about this one time I was like Mom if the joke calls for it like I've tried to do it you know like where I do it all clean but I told her I said if I write this joke and it feels like it calls for this naturally I just gotta say it I don't really want to start to try to alter you know my show but but it did help me from going on stage and just literally using curse words as Bridges to the next thing right right you know sometimes a joke calls for a curse words exactly no other way around it that's the only bridge that could connect it exactly get it to the end of that curse words exactly and so you know you got to trust that as a comedian instinctual right right but then you know but then you also know people that basically just use curse words as a bridge to another thing and they don't they don't even mean it they didn't have to say it right so it's like why you know but you just kind of relax on it and then people go like oh he wrong right and Izzy yeah you mentioned that Steve Harvey you met Steve Harvey you and he had a show The Steve Harvey Show that was unbelievable right but we're gonna talk about your um your sitcom career because man you be you you'll be knocking them out the park when you when you hop on it that thing for the syndication yeah the residual thing nice yeah yeah Style that oh okay when let's go somewhere the movie how did you how did you transition from okay I'm a comedian okay I write this to having something written for you and to be able to project that let say it let the guy that they see on stage because that's what they want they want the funny guy yeah that the scene on stage they want him to project now for 120 Minutes yeah that was of course like again I think having my theatrical background and you know from high school and in college you know it was a part of like stand up even my early stand up had a lot of characters in it that would do like full characters right and scenes to tell a joke right and so I think for me the transition from both television and but but to film really was a better transition for me because you know it has a lot more like true natural character stuff you know in TV you trying to deliver a punch line to hit them right but in the movie you can be the guy right you and so so Barbershop one was one of the first first thing I did another small movie called ride that was my first movie and it had the great late great John Witherspoon in it playing my brother and Snoop Dogg but I was like in good hands because the director was from St Louis okay and uh Middleton Shelton and then the uh the producers with the hutlin brothers they from East St Louis okay so it was like this family situation they took they took it right yeah so but I think by the time I started doing Barber Shop Barbershop 80 80 everybody came but you mentioned that how they wanted you to play another part yeah and you was like nah I made it yeah this is me this I got to do Eddie yeah they wanted uh actually it was the the part that Anthony Anderson ended up playing was what they wanted me to play and I was like when I when I read the script I was like no this old man I know him like I can do him and they were like you sure and then you know they wanted to cast the older actor and that when I came in and did a um I did the read they wanted to hear the script right and we did the read and so when I did it it just was like they got it right away I mean the whole The Voice the attitude right like I could literally do Eddie without even I don't know if anybody it's hard to say that now after seeing you play him in a couple of the uh the series yeah it's hard to believe somebody else could have played that part and done a better job than what you did yeah yeah I mean you know for sure and I I believe that too it was definitely transitioning not with me that road was meant for you exactly transformative in my career it literally transformed me from being you know one of the dudes in the group till when that movie came out I was in the next situation he said you know what they see you that obviously Ice Cube did a great job yeah uh in the movie but now they see you not only can you you know be a follow-up but you can lead yeah okay was with the Johnson family led to that exactly right and that in John's family vacation was again one also started to add my producers that right because it was a movie that I had that I felt was right for me right we took it to the studio and then made the movie The Way We wanted to make it right so that was really great that was a good another great transition of being able to like grow in this business go from taking your skill and then putting it into place to build another part of your business right so so now you got the Hat you you you do the TV and you're unbelievable TV so how how are you juggling I mean like when you're doing a movie obviously there's no there's no stand-up geek because movie three three four months yeah uh there's no TV because you can't do can't or can you hop back and forth you can't you can do you could do stand up when you're doing the movie you can't do really can't do television in the movie at the same time unless you're Kevin Hart you know what I'm saying Lord knows I don't know leprechaun he just do it all like you know I don't know I don't know how he sleeps I just like he was on the commercial after the commercial one day I called him I said Kevin enough all right I'm buying it all I got everything you can sell in so don't talk to me no more so I'm going to talk about your your wine oh yeah man you came out with a wine Zelda Napa Valley red yeah which was inspired by your mom Rosetta yeah and served as an educator for 30 years obviously I have a cognac also tell us about the process of coming up with a wine or coming up with something that's going to honor your mother because obviously when someone does that that person had a tremendous influence an impact on their life and you want this you want her to you want the world to know who this woman is yeah I mean you know uh you know again my mother didn't she didn't really drink much or you know have you know that kind of Lifestyle but she would like a glass of wine every now and then so uh you know of course I've been approached like so many people about different brands you know partner with you know liquor companies and liquor Brands and uh you know a friend of mine had started working in Napa and then another friend that I have a business with nudies knew the the winery and I I just went to go meet the guy one day we sat on the wine you know in the vineyard chilled talk got to know each other started laughing started drinking and then he liked to do philanthropic things with wine right and so we we started to develop this idea that my mother was an educator and into literacy so we can develop a wine and give to literacy programs you know uh and so that's how we developed the Zeta and you know I I started to really understand the wine and started tasting it started explaining what I wanted and got something I feel is very special I wish I'd have brought you a bottle you know it was like uh very special that uh it's a great wine man people enjoy it it's doing really well and uh we're actually you know on our second vintage so we're like popping off right now congrats congrats on that yeah the TV Steve Harvey was your first yeah then you had your own yeah so that I had so I went Steel Harvey the other they said the entertainment presents yep uh that was on Fox then we went to The Soul Man yep uh and now the neighborhood right so and I had a couple Pilots all in between but those are the ones that ran like you know uh and the neighborhood syndication yeah syndication Soul Man syndication Steve Harvey Show and uh you know we only did one season of said the Entertainer presents and it you know it's unfortunate because it's got great great skits on there but it was around that same time that the Chappelle show was popping off too and uh so it just you know those two things were in competition as far as the audience goes I guess when when you sit down and you do TV what do you what are you what are you trying to get across what do you want the audience to see what do you want them to know what do you want them to feel like I mean for me like you know like I said growing up in a small town my biggest memory of watching TV was watching it with my grandmother you know like that was her thing when she came home and chilled it's the grandkids we all kind of gathered around her so I remember shows like Hee Haw yeah but he always laughing right and so the Jeffersons good time all in the family all the stuff yeah and so it was a it was that feeling of knowing that when people come home they want to laugh they want to be with each other and they want to be able to do something so that's the same feeling I'm trying to get when I do a TV show I'm trying to tell you a story and allow you to kind of come into these people's world that makes you laugh and you can sit back and just watch they their stuff and have a good time and that's you know and if we if every now and then from The Jeffersons and from uh good times you learn every now and then you can put in a real message right you could say something important but it ain't a requirement right yeah when you're sitting when you were sitting there watching those did you ever think you would have one of those oh no now again you think about being in a small town like that in Missouri that's so far removed that's so far removed so far away and even you know once you get to once you get to Hollywood you realize how far it is away I just remember like you know doing came up on the Comic View really getting my popularity yes in the black the whole thing as a comedian in the black community yes so I remember used to be really being black famous right and no and people in Hollywood had no idea who I was so I was super like I went to Detroit dog I might shut this ball down right you know but you come out here you go in the meeting like Cedric the inter irrigator oh you're gonna love you love your stuff Cecil you're so funny you'll be like a Cedric you have Patti LaBelle on your shoulder she plays your mother yes what's it like working with Patty did she bring you any pie did she bring you any pie man it was covet so she couldn't bring anything I was trying to talk her into you know cooking because you know and she's actually made food for me before like so you know Miss Patty can get down or she get down like that yeah so that's like another thing that people don't know like even when she's on tour she have a whole Kitchen come in you know so she cooks so but anyway you know it's Kobe we couldn't really do any of these things but she's so great she's gracious uh she actually you know I do a big fundraiser for my mom in St Louis and she was one of the first people to say yes to come in and perform for that have a big Gala and so she's just great so when I called her to come and play my mother it just was really kind of Full Circle because that was the only one my mother got to see before she passed was when Patty came right that was great so so it was like she was the only one lady I mean other than Gladys Knight you know was the two that I wanted to be my mama right you know you talked we talked about earlier and like telling jokes but now said we're in a different time yeah things that were funny and you could say about different groups yeah you can't say as much now or you can't say it all how do you walk that line do you go right up to it because I mean still a Chappelle yeah it feels like look I'm a comedian yeah and my job sometimes is defend people I'm so I'm sorry but I'm not sorry I'm gonna say the joke I'm gonna say what needs to be said and you do with it but I think he's different because Chappelle he's walked away from Hollywood yeah so he said I don't really need Hollywood I'm gonna tell these jokes because I can go sell my to Netflix now are we cool yeah well I'm gonna go do stand up and we cool how do you walk that line saying I mean yeah I mean it's the thing that you have to be most aware of I think as a comedian of course your job is to be you know a provocateur orator of the world and the way you see it it's important for comedians to be free to say things in the way they see it and the way they want to say it so I'm a big fan of that right and at the same time I'm on CBS the Tiffany okay so I pretty much know if I say something across the line it won't necessarily just affect my livelihood but again having a big TV show means that you hire I probably have uh you know a crew and a staff of 130 people right that work for me and if I if I'm willing to just and fought on the sword of some joke and and ruin it for everybody else is not really responsible right so I think about it that way as well so certain things yeah you might want to say it and then you decide when I'm on that stand-up stage I feel like it's my duty to be free up there yeah so I don't I don't try to you know temper myself too much and at the same time you know my brand and who I am in general is not necessarily to offend my joke's going to have they can be they can be offensive to something but there's a message at the end of the day a comedian job yeah he wants to be funny but he's trying to get a message point he's trying to get a lot of things happen you know these are these are truth that I made funny yeah exactly and I always say this too if you could kind of stand in the truth of what you believe then that's that you're gonna you're gonna have your argument people gonna have dissenting opinions so be it you know I mean but if I believe I'm really truthful about this and I'm not saying something for shock value or just to be rude or just to feel like I'm you know being you end up trying to be the old Andrew Dice Clay right yes I'm just contrary for the hell of it right just gonna be rude to people right like that ain't that ain't dope to me so when you look at the Fallout um I don't know what your feelings are on what had transpired at the Oscars but looking at the Fallout and the aftermath do you believe Will Smith to ever be what he once was I think it'll be tough I I think that really will be a tough call I know that you know that this is a town that is about that business of business and Will Smith is proving to be a box office star you know uh has that star been dampered or dim cure so will the people take these chances yeah and if he's able to do it again and hit when he hit King Richard was out at the time that it happened but again a successful movie that still plays every day right and he won the Oscar the night he did the actual deed and so people don't relate them as the same thing right for whatever reason right there's there's that deed and then King Richard and like Oh I like that movie and I'm willing to watch it maybe because it's about Serena and them in a bigger story but I I don't put them in the same category so you know I mean they're both good dudes to me and so it was it was unfortunate to see it happen you know and I'm two sides in the car I got in trouble for a joke because I felt like so times you know somebody got to get the [ __ ] slapped out of them all right but I mean people act like that ain't a real thing in life like that's a thing that people forget because we live in this Twitter world right and everybody feel like they can say what they want to say and you people forget oh it's a part of the world somebody exists you might get the [ __ ] slapped out of you right that's all I'm saying he just did Chris did the apology seem sincere I mean he's come out I mean I thought I thought when he got up there to accept the word said this is just me he apologized to everyone the academy and this one and that one but not the man he had just like he was mad that night he was really mad dog and like I don't know exactly what the thing was but what all all I tell people in my opinion is for you to physically get up and go and walk 20 in that place if you've ever been in the fight bro yeah you wouldn't understand like you go in that football field y'all out there grinding If You Get outside yourself for the moment that you literally about to fight another person you're not you're not who you are right period it does it just don't happen unless you were brute right like if you were brute and you walk around thugging people right that's you but most human beings don't for me to literally go I'm gonna walk up and slap [ __ ] out right I'm I'm not me right now I'm so I'm outside my normal way of being and that's the truth because I've I've had physical altercations and I can remember not knowing what happened why why what led to it I just was it was on you said something you spit on me you called me there it happened we went we didn't you know everything else was out the window all the decorum yeah what about the movie what about the movie yeah this dude walked 30 feet he did you don't do that dog you don't do that in a natural sense of state that's not a not a human reaction to something unless you wake up every day as a villain right that's that's what villains do right a normal person ain't gonna walk 30 feet to go slap somebody you mad for real what's going on with the comedians um I just saw last week Michael Blackson and Katt Williams was beefing Michael Blackson said something about you know comedians could be forgiven I think he said that Katt Williams smoked crack cat took offense to that we see Monique and DL was going back and forth Monica since apologize but y'all y'all Like Rappers y'all can't we just get along man what's up with the comedians I need the chains man We Like Rappers man I would need a little baby change no you know I think that again we live in a world where we definitely more accessible to people and you know the idea that somebody makes any comment about anything then people can take that any any sound bite cut it up in a way that makes it a an offensive statement right and if people take that and we live in a world where that comes comes to fruition then you have a lot of misunderstandings you do have people jumping on these things for for the idea of the fodder of it all like the idea so half the time you know those those incidents don't even you know be real like you know again people end up apologizing because they go like oh I didn't even have all my facts right you know oh I didn't at the time I didn't know I was just mad and and it comes off good because we all live in this if I put it on my Instagram then it's true right you know so that's that's what I really feel that that's happening in the world of Comedy now because it is a bunch of measurements about who is the best and why and who you know and some people base it on money some people base it on funny right so you know like and people start to measure themselves about that kind of thing right and you know luckily for me I'm just from a generation where we have to wait at least for me like I don't well you I mean you a cat I mean cats say you stole one of his jokes yeah like it was ridiculous you know what I mean it was like the idea of the joke that he was even talking about don't even match up with no timeline so for me it was one of those things like did you have a conversation did you guys sell it did you have a conversation with cat well I responded to him the way he responded to me because but that's what I said as well I've seen cat you know even before then right I've seen this guy 30 times like dog if you literally was that upset about it like that step to me say nothing like that don't even make sense this is this is some internet [ __ ] and that's all I can say so you know when I responded to him he didn't respond back to me and I left it at that do you feel that uh someone else has stolen some of your material oh that's a part of this business right you know and I think that you know sometimes it's intentional and sometimes it's not right like you know like I would say sometimes people will hear a joke or or take a slice of your material and make it their thing right but the the origin of the joke came from you right and and so that's happened that's a part of it that that is that is not a not an uncustomary thing right now everybody knows that comedians you know your job is to write original material right your your job is to have original point of view so I'm not I'm not saying that that's not a you know something that can't happen but this particular thing didn't happen but in general yes I've had people take my joke do you hear did they make it funnier than you made it I don't maybe for them you know what I'm saying it works in them they put it in they set right you know like you hear it like you're like yo dawg that's my joke like you just changed it a little bit but that's my joke you look at every spears and I want to talk about him and his his thing to lizzo was that off limits off base again it's a branding thing like that's a Aries Spears brand as far as I'm concerned you know what I mean like he's a guy that take them kind of chances to tell jokes you know his sense of humor that's the right that's the space he goes to so you know for him he was telling the joke like for for the media and the people they you know we want to get into fat shaming or whatever the the topic of the the day is right so you can you can at least easily offend anybody at any time right so that's the that's the point I think for me I don't you know I think it's distasteful it just ain't my taste right but so but if you make a joke about someone theoretically you can offend every joke you tell that happened to be about someone can be offensive whether you talk about someone's speech impediment whether they talk about the way they walk where they look exactly so you can offense if somebody wants to be offended they could be offended by what you said yeah I mean we was talking about this the other day because on Kings of Comedy be Mac late great Bernie Mac he got a whole joke about a re you know yeah you you can't say none of that now right you couldn't do no parts of that joke he called the little boy yeah and all the kids that was growing up he just nieces and nephews calling the f word yeah right you can't do none of that no more but these things wasn't exactly at that time considered funny right so if you start to Retro people or what they said and how they said or what they said in life and now here we go charging them for the crime today that is you know that's a hard thing to do to someone who's supposed to be speaking freely let me I'm going to continue on this but I want to go back prior Murphy some of the guys in the joke that they told back then how would they survive in today's climate dude we watched Delirious the other day we like nope nope no we just started counting off jokes like ain't wouldn't be there wouldn't be there Eddie Murphy ain't really that good you know you fine you can you find yourself trapped in that store like if I had to take off all the jokes Eddie Murphy couldn't say nowadays you'd be like oh yeah but that's the that's the difference right climate the times we live in what's acceptable in society and we've just got to a point again we just have a lot more exposure to each other we have a lot more growth that's happening as people and so sensitivity awareness about you know things that just wouldn't be acceptable you know none of none of the gay culture would be acceptable you know like back then you know none of it yeah let alone how it's grown into you know multiple letters you know what I mean so that is that's something that just was you you have to understand this is the world that we live in and then you as a person growing and accepting and understanding that we live in a great big wide world and that's the thing and I think if people literally just truly trusted that part right then you wouldn't you wouldn't have to you know you know cast to get against anybody that was different than you you don't really care Tiffany haddish says that she lost everything yeah it was because of some old skits because it kind of like he kind of like every spirit said what he said about lizzo they went back and started dragging up skits that she was involved in and then she kind of got dragged into something that she really didn't have anything to do with and it's like oh well remember and you know this came out and somebody wanted to sue her and then the charges were dropped but the damage is already done yes yes I mean that's you know and again those are the things that you know again we live in accusatory point point the finger at you first and then you have to it's guilty I mean it's not no longer you know innocent until proven guilty you're guilty into a proven innocence yeah anything like I say I could throw you the you know I could throw you anything out there in out of context of like how I was shot when it was shot what it's about and then if you saw it as that thing bro you're gonna be like ah man that's terrible which again to us today that that particular joke just was distasteful I don't know exactly who would even have shot that right you know or thought that was funny at any time but however you know somebody I thought it was funny right and they did it right so you know and now here it is you know this many years later and it you know adversely affect her for real like it hit her career in a real way man so have you talked to her I reached out to her we text back and forth when it first happened you know of course these are not the times where people want to just be taking 100 phone calls but you know she knows that I got love for her and you know just really just trying to make you know in my you know just wanting you know wanting the case to be of course if if it was uh really a bad case against her just really rooting for it that's all you know that's uh that's all I can say growing up in St Louis I mean you guys have I mean obviously you got a great baseball team when you when you know in the late 60s uh uh but Bob Gibson yeah cars were unbelievable who brought little bro yes yes Kurt flood yeah um now you look at Jason Tatum you got Bradley Bill Ezekiel Elliott how proud of you for those guys being from St Louis you're from St Louis yeah you probably remember I don't know you're probably just ages a lot of these guys paired yeah yeah and uh so how how how proud are you from like I got some homies that that made it dude man I mean it's big I mean because it is you know St Louis though it's a you know a big city it's a small town right like you know and so that connection is very real so we love we love that you know you love to see you know people pop off and come represent the city right I mean so you know it don't even matter what team they play for at this point you hold it down for them right right you know like we we're in St Louis we didn't grow up as no Celtics fans right but if Jason playing like we rooting for the Celtics right that's our whole thing Ezekiel you know that never really happened foreign take your jersey off and we all meet up right put your St Louis hat back on are you good yeah you know did you know Nelly before you guys blew I mean before you became said the Entertainer before he became Nelly Mo did you guys know each other so I you know I was I was young said the Entertainer so I was actually popping off I used to do a com I used to do a uh uh uh variety show right talent show yeah and so I would come back to St Louis and do this talent show and you know Nelly then was a local with a local hit doing really well so I I hired them to be like the Final Act okay they didn't compete they was just like the person that everybody came to see right and that was my first time meeting them and that particular night when I saw the group there was the whole lunatics Nelly was automatically the star right and so I just remember when they got their deal everybody you know they came to me it was like yo they want to just sign Nelly we don't we ain't going I said guys like y'all need to really like learn the truth about yourself Right Nelly the star right yeah and Nelly will take y'all with him but y'all can't expect to go in there with six people bruh yeah like that's not happening in Big Business the group ain't over that's it The OJ's yeah remember remember they cut the Jackson Five out of one see [Laughter] got Jackie we need him Jermaine he wrote the song Sometimes Tito play The Bait that's good we need him all kind of but then what's another boy name yeah come on bring Marlin yeah and then Randy came and he was like ah all right cool that's how they signed him so yeah sure we can't just get Michael I'm looking at you your parents your parents went to an HBC you Kudos Lincoln University yeah you graduated from a pwi Southwest Missouri State why did you go south east south Southeast my bad my bad why do you go to an HBCU great uh man you made it back back there you can get it yeah yeah yeah yeah no no you know what Lincoln at the time when my mother went to school we went to go visit you know again hbcus or they they have to fight hard for you know until get funding and it just was a situation where uh the southeast Missouri was actually between Caruthersville and St Louis right so the reason it was attracted to me because that was the route that I knew right my whole life we kind of came go back to Caruthersville when we moved to St Louis we go back that was our little trip right so Cape Girardeau where it sat it just felt like a place where I knew I was going to be comfortable right going away and so and then at that time they were doing a program where they really needed minority students so they gave me the most money yeah when you got the situation so that was it you know yeah it became a great environment the the the the financial aid financial aid the financial aid packet was a little better yes especially if you don't have no grades right did you spend any time at an HBC you have you did you did you go to Lincoln did your party Italy oh yeah yeah definitely the Lincoln party there uh that's an experience yeah I think everybody and I tell people I tell Howard we did all we went to Highway you got you got to experience black college yeah a homecoming or game to see the battle of the band to see the mate the major rest the drum major to go on campus and see the step show yes yeah no they go hard like it was definitely that kind of it's an experience yeah for sure like you know and you realize you miss it like you know because I remember I used to always want to go to Grambling like you know okay back then yeah because they marching band used to be so cold yep you know I was like man I want to go to Grambling and it just looked like a fun environment and then of course different world came in started making black colleges look like it was like all the babes was there you like yeah I want to do that you pledge Kappa yeah why why what Legacy I mean you know like you know you know y'all pretty boys yeah then a lot of people missed it when they look at me yeah because I said yeah you're close I'll say you cute I say you okay it's the dimple did you get it because there's a lot for me were you good were you good with the cane were you good I was cold oh I was cold okay that was my room so you know but you know so what was your last name yeah I was Darth Vader okay okay Darth Vader you know so but my uh my uncle my only you know coolest Uncle I mean I got several uncles but my coolest Uncle my mother's favorite brother was a Capper so he was the guy that was that kind of shot he is a pretty boy good looking man always been a good looking dude but you know he was that he was that family symbolism that I was like yeah I'm that's that's me right there yo you and Steve Harvey a great friend Steve is a cute yeah you're a captain how do you guys become such great friends I mean really over the time it's very really interesting it kind of happened very early I got stuck in Dallas one time I was supposed to perform at a you know an all-white Comedy Club when I got there they told me they didn't need me and I I was supposed to make 350 and I drove down there I had a hundred dollars and was gonna make 350. and they told me they didn't need me so now but I'm gonna need that 350 though I understand I'm not gonna go on but I need that 350. what I need that like all I got is a hundred dollars now like that would have been 450 right that's a whole nother number yeah 450 I'm talking about who drinking if I got something I'm gonna drink it like a hot coffee whatever so so what was it what was it about Steve Harvey that you said man this is a good dude and uh well he's kind of always been the person that he is like very entrepreneurial very kind of go-getter uh a fixer so he was Steve had you know he was popular on the white comedy circuit but he started a black knight in Dallas right so uh I went and I was down on my luck I was stuck and he he knew who I was through another comedian and then put me on stage and so I went up and I rocked it he gave me five minutes at the end of the night I got to stand Ovation it's just so happens that the headliner wasn't really killing it and he was like well if you come back every night I'm gonna talk to the owner see if I can give you a little something right so he basically that's what I did I came back every night he put me on he gave me 200 and that was that was love and then booked me to come back as my own airliner right so from there we just connected we just became friends we had a good vibe with each other it was always you know cool and it was you know turned into this you know brother situation we just became Partners man so it was easy we never you know try to get in each other's way he'd do his thing I do mine and we get together we kick it and that's it you know how do you how did you become the host of a BT Comic View in Def Comedy how did that happen so BG come if you really was again one of those things I feel like great Comics that came through that it was man and God be looking out because I had I was back at home I was in St Louis I was like hosting local comedy things but I had written a lot of jokes and I wanted to go on television but I had been on Def Comedy Jam uh the season before and they wouldn't let me back on right and I had all these jokes and I was like I gotta go TV so I was like I'm gonna do Comic View and I remember all my contemporaries like man don't go to BT after you've been on HBO like that's a step down don't do that you're gonna mess up your your thing you know and I was like oh man I said I got to get these jokes off right so it just so happened that DL had decided to step down and they that year I went they said we're gonna find a new host by a competition right and but I was I was already a beast I didn't really I was like on some others so I run easily and then became the host and became a household name like I was you know because at that time ComicView came on every night so it was like news so you know you you you and that's why I was black famous I was like in Black households yeah I was on everything was unbelievable yeah and then we had like say from the coming of you in my era yeah you had the earthquakes when I was hosting earthquake Cheryl Underwood DC Curry yeah yeah where Dale came from depth yeah she blew up on Def Jam Chucky ducky was all the ducky Mario and Jamaica Jamario yeah yeah so many great people came from that that little era uh some more some more yeah one of the best y'all just you one of the best when you did the Steve Harvey Show Did You Know The Steve Harvey Show was going to take off like it did it felt like it you know we were when we did it Steve and I we were you know we were great friends it was his show and he asked for me he wanted me to be on his show and I actually had a deal to do my own show at that time and so I thought it was smart to ride because I actually went to go see Steve do his other show me and the boys right so he used to have a show me and the boys that was dope and I went to see how it worked and it got canceled right so when I had a deal to do my own show I was wise enough to feel like I wanted to ride a shotgun first right I was like I don't want to be in the driver's seat I want to ride a shotgun and watch I was done and do that and so that's what I did and it was great because we was already Partners having a good time we laughed a lot and then the Kings of Comedy came right like in the third year of his baby of doing Steve Harvey Show and then we blew up even more so so it was like we just had a great run that's what I would ask the Kings of Comedy how did that group come it was you d-l uh Steve Harvey Steve was more of the host in Bernie yeah how did how did they put you four guys together of all the all the black male comedians because I think they had a Queens of Comedy also yeah afterwards yes how did how did they land on you four well I think you know at that time you know again it was all about who they can who I believe it was all about who the promoter can get that he thought concealed tickets right because Martin was his own thing he was already gone he was his own thing and then it was like Joe Toria took over uh Joe Toria took over Def Jam after Martin so he was his own thing right and then you had all the wins and they were they was they was their own brother right and so Steve was hot we had the Steve Harvey Show so we had a national TV show Bernie Mac was the it comedian at the time and and then DL was hot he had a TV show so what I think but the first year we did it it was just me Bernie and uh just me Bernie and Steve right and Steve closed and Guy Tori was the host he would emcee it I came out first Bernie win the middle Steve closed and then on the uh then as we got into the the bigger run of the tour we brought on DL Steve went to the host and even though on the special Bernie clothes I closed that tour so I was the last the last comedian on the live tour but but on the movie they just cut it it was better for Bernie to go live did when you did that tour did you like okay your boy here now oh what you can't you can't you can't hit me in the ass with a red light your boy your boy landed straight pigeon I'm like dude this is the first time like this tool is so big it's all arenas right yeah so this is rock and roll comedy this is this is private jets leaving out on the weekend get on the private jet go to the show land everybody got their own limo right we got big swedes it's just it's top of the food chain you just don't get no bigger than this and we were like making a lot of money and it was with your boys we was having a lot of fun and you know at the time I was singles on the first first Kings of Comedy so I know I don't you know I'm just yeah if you want to be single again that's the quickest way let me ask you quick if they were to do if they were to do a Kings of Comedy right now classic four who could they I mean could they do a Kings of Comedy with raw heart Chappelle could could they do a Kings of Comedy for sure I mean those you know they've done shows where they all because that mistaken didn't Rock and Chappelle an earthquake was over in London at uh 02 at uh at the arena I think just about a month ago yeah so Chappelle was out on tour rockers out on tour uh on in London inside and so they'll often get together right uh and then they did it you know uh cabinets here Kevin is on yeah Kevin get ready to start around but they did Kevin and Chris did a show in New York and Chappelle came and they went on stage together so that was a big deal and then Chappelle uh he you know he'd been working he produced Quakes yeah Special so Quake is you know rocking with him a lot too so that's dope but that's it you know what I mean these guys are the big I mean people people love Katt Williams people love yeah I love them so The Branding of those you know of those particular guys like is a way if they wanted to do it but all those guys so but they're kind of young like you said you like you looking like okay at the time Martin was a standalone guy Tori was a standalone a lot of these guys are Standalone you guys were like you know Steve had you were in comedy Steve was doing his thing but you guys kind of wasn't to that level that these guys are now yeah no yeah not if we were standing alone in theaters right and that's what made us a package for it twenty thousand seed Arenas yeah yeah that's a different thing it was a and at that time that was just rare so you have you had you had of course Eddie Murphy to do it and you have Martin I think Eddie Murphy maybe I don't even think he did a real tour I don't know he did like he maybe did a few dates but Martin did a real tour at in arenas right and Dice Clay right these were the kind of people that did Arena tours and so it was very few people at that time being able to do it in Kings of Comedy did the Superfast model right you know where we put a lot of people on One show and made it a dope night and so it was extremely successful too is it true that Stephen and anybody here yeah yeah I mean you know they were the kind of guys that they both alpha males you know like they they both you know they just saw it different you know what I'm saying but at the end of the day they was able to get through it you guys is that one of the reasons why you didn't do you did it you did the first you did the first part the second part I don't think I think you're of course that was you know definitely a contributing circumstance but I also think that it had a lot to do with the Promoter on things because he got a bigger head than all of us so the dude that put his put us all together started to really think it was about him you know so it started to be that so it was a lot of those kind of elements in there where people just sometimes people just ruin a good thing yeah just because you know they you know you know like he always be together if it wasn't for me like okay bro that one joke nobody coming to see you right like you know but I didn't tell a joke yeah that was like yeah that kind of thing but now you're starting to lend your voice doing voice over yeah and we see a lot of comedians we see a lot of famous a lot of actors and actresses doing this now yeah do you Boondocks uh Ice Age Madagascar Charlotte's Web and you gotta got an NAACP award image award yeah so what is what is it about the voiceovers that you like so much well I mean again man again we grew up in the area where cartoons Were King you know every second but you only got them on Saturday right it ain't like to say now you watch them every day ain't no fun I don't want to watch cartoons I want to watch it one day a week right exactly Saturday no one with the cereal yes let's go pajamas still on yeah you know but I think that but you know like the t-shirt is black but yeah but pajamas yeah I'm sorry I'm sorry I made a three that I did people they was like oh I wonder what kind of pajamas you had like no no t-shirts some basketball shorts you know it's the best we can do so you know but no but you know like when I start having kids you know you start to really think this would be cool right for them to hear my voice in the movie and you know so that was became a great choice and you know they actually they they pay well that's the other thing that people don't know about those like those those animated movies end up you you'd be quite surprised I remember uh Madagascar was one of those like when you know when the when the checks came in he was like oh okay yeah yeah yeah exactly they end up doing three of them they had a TV series but but I think but I think the thing is like to do voice over you need a very distinguishable voice well yeah I mean you know because I mean you really only leading with your voice so the idea is like yeah what does the voice do uh what can you do to kind of bring this character to life because most of the time when you're doing animation they just show you a character a steel drawing right and then you can decide what this character sounds like and what you want along with the director who's trying to get you to say all right cool uh we won't you know can you be a little Gruff or can you have an attitude can you be you know those kind of because I'm here in the mission I'm always trying to guess who who is this boys I know these boys yeah yeah no that's uh that's always the case and that kind of goes like with you know doing albums I remember doing like threats on the on Jay-Z's Black album right and a lot of people was put in many years didn't know that was me because again it was a character I was doing and I like had a whole different voice for him and everything so like that was like you know it was fun and then so when people would read the thing they like yo you threats I'm like yeah when you do and you do a lot of thing and you Luther Vandross and you you like the old school you like people you like the Soulful and I was thinking of like man said can really sing you can sing for real though yeah yeah man I I've been you know and I record some songs I just never put out a like a put out a music project I think I'm gonna do it though just on just on GP so I can add it to that list right right yeah so when you when you go out there you open up and has anybody ever told you they said man you ought to do a record bro you ought to go ahead oh for sure you know one of the you know one of the biggest fans of Jamie Foxx he always like yeah come on man you should do this you know because and he's definitely a person that as a comedian as trans you know transcended at all like with big hit records and movies and he's just super talented like that so but he's one he's a big fan of like man you know you need to sing said let's go you like Broadway because you're gonna I did I did I enjoyed Broadway it was very tough it was one of the that was one of these things I say it was the most um it was one of the greatest experiences in my career where I grew right like you know because you get hot and you know life is happening and you have really cool things happen to you where you have like um you know money milestones and stuff like that but to to as you know to kind of like have your career popping and then do something that truly challenges you right and makes you get better that that was Broadway it was like it was one of those kind of experiences where I definitely would do it again but it was hard work it was unique and you know I was really glad there's some something I'm very proud I was able to do because look at it it's different than the movies it's different than voiceovers because it's kind of like being a comedian because you're in front of a live audience yes and the thing is that like a comedian is that you get instant gratification you know if the joke's funny yeah in a movie you don't know you look man I think that's gonna be good but I can't wait to get the feedback same thing and voice over but that instant I mean obviously Broadway they're not clap you know they wait to the end or you know before what was hard for me is that I was doing a dramatic piece so I was actually stretching right I did American buffalo it's David Mammoth one of you know a great American writer like writes a lot of words a lot of word play right and so you got to learn a lot and you have to kind of deliver these characters and so with um with that when my natural instinct to be funny was something that I had to I had to bring down I had to press it down so the director knew that you know that he liked the way that I was taking the character where I was gonna get some jokes off but you don't have in Broadway you don't have the ability to improv anything right so you have to do what the playwright wrote right and that was a big challenge for a comedian because if I see a window where I can get a joke off then I'm trying to do that right I remember I asked one night because we were doing Broadway with Barack won and I had a the first time he won and I had a scene where I had the newspaper right and I've had this whole idea like it'll be dope if I say well look at that blase blah and you know when I said it in rehearsal everybody laughed whatever I said was funny the director loved it and then he was like no nope give me said Mount Rushmore comedians oh man uh for me oh Richard Pryor George Carlin uh the late Robin Harris um uh uh Chappelle that's all you guessing I'm about to say you about to keep going I was like yeah see that's exactly why you probably didn't go to you know you about the name five it's only four yeah so yeah I didn't go through it yeah I feel like it's five people on that mountain though it ain't number four a lot of people don't know that what's next for saying uh man you know I'm gonna continue to produce and I'm I'm producing right now I got a lot of uh new shows that I'm producing for other Talent developing a lot of talent uh you know I'll direct more we we like to say we're blessed to be in the fifth season of the neighborhood I got a show coming out I got two shows on the Bounce Network that we produce my company of bird and a bear uh so we have uh the John Johnson that's on balance of about a group of black men in their in their 30s friends and then finding happy is premiering this Saturday on the 24th of uh of September but it's going to be uh that's the second show that we got over there it's dope just creating to continue to keep keep trying to push the limit man it seems to me that you're transitioning more behind the camera than in front of the camera especially when it comes to the movies well I like that I mean I like to be able to create I think you know I have to you know in the way these contracts are set up I just have the ability to do more of that because once you own a show like the neighborhood we we shoot 22 24 episodes a season so you're locked up for nine months so in order for me to like stay creative and stay busy it's easier for me to create stuff for other people and knowing that I only got three months to get a movie in right so usually you know we'll try to find something to do like in that break and like you know and try to jump in and pop off but I can produce two three four TV shows in that time right so how how much further do you want the neighborhood to go you're trying to go 6 10 yeah for 10 years yeah I I think I always loved it like what I considered a legendary uh sitcoms they usually go eight to nine right you know of course you have those anomalies like uh on them when we friends or something they go for a long time but you know like Seinfeld like Seinfeld but they they right in there because two and a half man Raymond they usually brighter than right nine years eight nine years uh and I think that that'll be a really strong run I mean as long as the network is loving us the way they are uh you know and we having a good time uh we got a great cast I love my cast and we I asked everybody who did would they want to rock you know longer and they was like yeah we having a good time so you know that would be the push for me is to try to get you know in in you know Anthony's uh show black has just ran they win eight seasons right so I I feel like that's the list you get the eight yeah you good you'll reassess where you are after 80. yeah exactly let's drink some of this yeah yeah okay you know this is a Laporte I named it after you know you have after your yours after mom and I got this after my grandmother laportez is a family name yes where's where's cognac is it actually from the region yes it was nice it was got a really nice body to it then this week this is me drinking um learning to drink wine so now I'm like okay it's full body it's uh there's notes of summer and asked weapons in here you say it's named after your grandmother yeah yeah definitely I can see you got a little brother yeah yeah little butterscotch yeah a little butterscotch yeah this is a smooth zipper right here it's got like a yeah like a brandy Vibe tool um okay you know that's great it's beautiful man I really appreciate it I appreciate everything that you do continue yeah that's hard thank you man no problem just a gift yeah absolutely oh you know yeah I really just said it on camera to make sure I got it you give me that right yeah oh yeah thank you grinding all my life sacrifice all my life I've been grinding all my life all my life been running all my life sacrifice hustle baby price wanna slice got to roll a dice that's why all my life

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Published: Mon Nov 21 2022