Carlton Radial Drill and Cincinnatti Bickford Super-Service Drill Press Review

[Music] hello Keith Rucker your vision machine or well guys I've been promising it for a while and I'm finally got my drill presses my Carlton this is a four foot nine inch column radial drill it's ready restored and ready to go in the same time I have my other drill press my 21 inch Cincinnati Bickford drill press also restored and ready to go so what I'm gonna do in this video I think is kind of show you a little bit about both of these machines gonna show you the features of them and let's put them to work and I actually give them a little bit of a drilling to do see how they perform so we'll start out with the carlton radial drill why is it called a radial drill so unlike a typical drill press this one here you see is on this arm and the term radio comes from radius and with this one you can basically pull this arm up here and then the whole head swings around radially swings around that radius so you can move the head around wherever you want to go and then when you get it where you want you just lock it back in place so the other adjustments that you have you know with this drill press so let me just say this with a big drill press like this one of the advantages it has is that you can work on very large pieces very heavy pieces with a typical drill press when you're drilling you put your part up underneath there and you move the part around to wherever the drill is with the radial drill you do the exact opposite you actually move the drill to where you want to put the hole and you do that by adjusting the three accesses number one the radial action there that will do the left and right we can move the arm in and out or the head in and out on the arm so I'll pull the mountains lock down here there's a hand wheel and the whole head moves in and out you can put that wherever you want to and then whenever you get it positioned lock it back in place the third adjust what you may need is the height to get the height on there where you want it to be for that because this thing is so heavy rather cranking on it it's actually got motor assist so we push this arm up it engages a motor which then raises the whole head up when you get it to where you won't you just pull this lever back into the neutral position it stops to come down same thing pull the handle down motor engages and it raises and lowers that hedge where you on it so that gives you where you can move this around and actually put your hole right where you want to very easy to do let's zoom in here now and we'll show you some of the other controls on this so in addition to the being able to move the head around where you want lots of other levers and handles on here to control different things so first and foremost to control the spindle itself to turn the drill on we've got a handle right here you push it this way it turns the drill chuck in a clockwise direction which is the direction you would drill go back to neutral it stops to go the other way it reverses that drill that be counter clockwise so that would be for coming out of a hole or something like that if you were tapping power tapping to pull back out now it has a quill in it just like a regular drill press and to go up and down you got these two handles here these are called the cow horns because of their shape they're kind of shaped like the horn on an old long horn cow and to engage the quill manually you just do it just like you would a regular drill press you go up and down and that's you can just manually drill and using that action right there when you come down you'll notice that you got the slot here this has a Morse taper in here so you can put different tooling this particular one takes the number five Morse taper and I've just got a drill chuck come out it on that you can put big taper same drill bits directly in here you boring heads in here whatever kind of tooling you got to mount on a number five Morse taper you can put right in here alright so tell you what let's engage the spindle and we got another real cool thing here with this as far as a feed it has power feed that will feed down it will engage the spindle and when you pull these handles out like this you engage the automatic theme if you notice this thing is actually going down on its own right now there are four speeds to that feed and this up here on this little selector dial you got six fifteen eleven and twenty and what those numbers are is thousands per revolution of the drill so as that drill is turning for every revolution right now it's going down eleven thousands of an inch and again six fifteen 11 and 20 are my options there if you speed it up obviously it's going to go down faster because it's based on the RPM we're doing here as far as how fast it goes down so too change your speeds are your feet excuse me well let the spindle stop there all I gotta do is do that and I'll go up my 20 engage it now and you see it's going at a faster feedrate and come back out you can manually pull it back out now this lever here controls the actual speed of the spindle right now we're running at 145 rpms revolutions per minute and we can change that there's two handles here that control two different ranges there's three options for each range so this first one here you got 145 200 it's gonna go over here to 100 so you got three spots there now the next one is you pull this handle down here now we're in 505 715 and 350 pulls again we're in 990 2014 25 so let's go back so 100 rpms will be our slowest speed on here I honestly kind of wish that it had something a little bit slower than that for doing really large work we can go to 200 I'm not going to hit them all there's 505 rpms move them up 14:25 coming pretty good now and then the maximum feed right there is 2,000 rpms now when you engage the cow horns see it's going down for the fat 20,000 per revolution [Applause] all right let's drill a hole so what I did is I've got a vise bolted down to the table here this is about a half-inch piece of steel and I put a center punch on there where I want to drill the hole and just like we talked about before we're just gonna go right over there to it first thing I'm going to do is I'm a lower I head down a little bit closer where I'm gonna have quite as much to work with there I've got my head here disengaged but I can swing it around we'll come out here and we'll just fine-tune this thing until we get right over that Center punch hole all right I'm on that hole and I'm locking my table down so we've got a 7/16 inch drill bit I've got a chart here that tells me speed spindle speeds for the size of the drill plus the material and I look on here 7/16 inch drill size will call this medium steel is calling for 693 rpms would be the optimum speed and of course I'm not gonna have that exact speed on here but the closest one I've got is 715 which is just a little bit faster so I'm going to engage that we'll spend alone this one we're just going to do it by hand so I'm just going to come in here and manually drill the hole let's do it [Applause] all right we are three [Applause] so I went over and found a drill bit here this is number five Morse taper on this and I could use another one with the reducing sleeve but this drill bit looks like it's in pretty good shape it happens to be inch and 9/16 so we're gonna try that one on here and just go straight to it so first thing I need to do is go up with the head so we got a little more room up underneath there so let's raise this thing up it ought to be good I'm gonna come down so we got our knock out here and I got a drift here to knock out my spin with us in there let's put that in there and we'll take a hammer here need a third hand see raise this back up I got that drill bit in there lower it back down a little bit closer all right so as far as my speed goes 9/16 isn't on here but somewhere between 1/2 and 5/8 so that's calling between 188 and 204 so I'll tell you what we're going to do we're going to go with 200 RPMs on our speed we're going to come down here I've got my feed rate set on 11,000 per revolution and we're just going to engage our cow horns and stand back and see what happens the little wall in here let's try that again I think that that 11 would have been fine but I want to be a little more conservative until we try this thing out I don't think my grind on my drill bits just exactly right but it is making a nice chip all right we got a fully engaged pet now it's doing much better much better family all right one nice hole all right so we end up with a pretty decent little hole here I will just say that I think that my grind on that although it looked like a good grind it was cutting more on one side to the other and it was making for a pretty rough cut until we got it down fully engaged in there once they got fully engaged on both sides or all the way around it really did a lot better but the first a little bit I was kind of rough but all-in-all it shows the machine is very capable all right there you go there's the carlton drill press pretty excited to have this thing running still got just a couple of things I need to do fitting up on blocks right now where I was moving it around with a pallet Jack I need to get it sitting on the floor and I've actually got some concrete anchors ordered I'm gonna clamp their bolt this thing down to the floor because this arm swings out on either side although is it's designed so it shouldn't tip over I'm still just a little bit worried about it so I've heard horror stories of these things falling over in some shops so we're gonna bolt it down to the ground just to be on the safe side so I've still gotta kind of get it exactly where it said get those in there but other than that she's ready to go so let's go over to this Cincinnati Bickford give you a quick overview of it and then try some holes on it as well so next we have the Cincinnati big 4 21 inch Super Service drill press so this is a little bit different than the carlton similar capacity as far as you know the horsepower the spindles and so forth like that this one does take a number for more stapl rather than the number 5 over there but works very similar we've got a similar range of speeds and feeds we got a little cow horn device I'll show you here in a minute for the feed on here but unlike that one of course this is more like a regular drill press where you get your work positioned up underneath it to wherever the spindles that it doesn't move around so as far as movement on this we do have a couple of adjustments that can be made first off over here on this if you loosen up a couple of bolts and there's a handle here and you can adjust the actual spindle height up and down and we got a pretty good range here that this can move up and down go ahead and just lock her back in right there and we also have down here you know a couple of bolts to tighten and loosen up the main table and the table will raise and lower and we showed a previous video where we did some work on that screw mechanism in there to raise and lower this so you got two adjustments in height between the two you lower that all the way down and raise the follow up you can get a pretty good sized piece of material in here or you can get them pretty close together for doing smaller stuff so anyway nice to have that range in height up here on the head we have our speed selector here and it goes from you know that says I think this is ten is it's hard that first number it's not real obvious on there but says zero but I think that's ten or maybe twenty I need to look that up you can't really see it in Boston there but that's gonna be our slowest speed and our high speed is about 1,200 rpms and you can it's got three ranges that way and then three ranges this way to get in there where you're at so much slower rpm I'm low in and not quite as fast on the high end [Applause] [Music] [Applause] we got our selector here this is for forward is down and then reverse is up so we got that and then over here we have the feed for going down if Scott basically is in out now but you got four this is again thousands per revolution four thousandths eight thousands out fourteen and twenty thousand so a little bit different range and feeds but similar again to the Carlton and then over here on the side again we have our cow horns and just like on the Carlton this works just your quill up and down and then to engage the feed you pull them in this one doesn't stay it's spring-loaded so I'm not sure if that's normal or abnormal but you got to hold this one the end to keep it engaged where it's on the other one you can let go of it so anyway let's put a drill in here a piece of metal and give this puppy it a little challenge alright I got the same drill bit as we did before to start with my speed is a little bit different just because of what's available in this so we're doing this one at five hundred and thirty two rpms and we're just going to go ahead and do this first hole again by hand [Music] [Music] all right I drilled very similar to the other one we were one a little bit higher speed on the other one so I think this was a little bit slower but that's to be expected I will say that just having used that one over there and using this one I kind of like the quill handle here being on the side of the drill press rather than on the front of the drill press that over there was a little bit unnatural to me just because of the way I'm used to using a drill press in the long run I don't think it's really gonna matter just reposition your body and do it but this did feel more natural just because this is how I'm used to using a drill press let's see what size drill bit we can find I can't use that same one we just used because it was a number 5 Morse taper and it won't fill in here I should have picked a number 4 or I could have used the same drill bit on both of them but that's alright I'm gonna go find a similar size one it'll be a different a little bit different bit we'll put it in here and give it a try alright so we've got a inch and a half drill bit in here the grind on this one quite honestly doesn't look as good as the other one did but that other one wasn't as good as I thought so we'll see how this one goes that was just the closest one I could find that would fit in this machine let's see our speed according to our chart it was 204 rpms is the optimum and we're gonna be going at 188 that's as close as I got so that's our speed and we're gonna put this phone so we were on six over there I'm gonna go with a four thousand feed on the year we'll just go start conservative so let's give her a try and see what she does we'll come down by hand and then I'll engage the cow horns here little vibration going but we're about to get into full cut yeah we're making a cold cut now again a little bit better I've just did that to break that chip we're back reengaged now just cutting on one side give my drill bit aside the greatest in the world I'm stopping my feed to break that chip so this will take a little bit more to cut it [Music] to come out the bottom [Music] and we are through we might have could have gone with a little bit faster feed on that but again a nice hole looks good so Cincinnati big four thumbs up it gets the approval here I think it's ready to go so I'm gonna call both these machines in good shape and ready to go into regular practice again on this machine so just a couple little minor things that need to be done on this one I've still got a couple of tags I need to get restored and put back up on the motor and some other stuff nothing major it's also sitting up on some blocks right now right moving around the pallet Jack and I need to get this thing sitting down on the floor I'm probably not going to worry about bolting this one down I don't think it's going to go anywhere although at some point in its life it did fall over that was evident by some damage we saw when we were restoring this that had previously been repaired and fortunately it looks like those repairs were good and it's not gonna have any major impact on this machine that thumbs up I think it's ready to go so guys one thing I'm looking for for this carlton is there's a handle that's supposed to go in right here I've just got a half-inch and bolt in here right now it's half-inch 13 threads but this should have a handle just like a handle like you'd have on a hand wheel except a solid one not one that rotates and I can't find one I can't find the source for one with that thread size if anybody knows of where handle like that might be please let me know because I would like to get this uncomfortable bolt out of here and a more appropriate handle and let me show you what that handle should look like so this is the handle up above it on the raising arm are for raising and lowering the head and you can see it's more like a handle off of an will and I used to give these from mcmaster-carr but they're not carrying the solid ones they still have a rotating one revolving one but again I'm looking for a solid one so he might he knows a source for one of those well let me know alright guys I think that'll be a wrap on this video so you see we got two nice drill presses ready to go ready to go into work here in the shop these both these drill presses because of the feed mechanism on them can be used for not only for drilling but you can use these for boring you put a boring head in here just like you can on a milling machine and bore with them so I'm really excited to have this extra capacity in the shop and I hope you are too thanks for watching [Music] you

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Length: 23min 51sec (1431 seconds)

Published: Fri Jan 12 2018