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how do we define freedom how much are we responsible for events that we caused only indirectly these questions and more relate to the 2016 superhero film Captain America Civil War in the wake of a public disaster the Secretary of State informs the Avengers that the United Nations have drafted the sokovia accords the audience never gets to see the fine print but the basics of the document are that the Avengers are now under the supervision and control of the United Nations they can either sign it or retire Tony Stark better known as Iron Man immediately accepts these conditions partly due to his guilt over being responsible for the creation of the super villain Ultron several Avengers follow his lead Steve Rogers better known as Captain America does not trust the coalition of Nations that drafted the accords voicing concerns that giving them full access to the Avengers could have severe consequences Zemo a psycho vien who lost his family during the events of Avengers age of Ultron frames Bucky Barnes better known as the Winter Soldier in hopes of forcing a conflict among the Avengers his hope is that they will either kill each other or at least separate and no longer function as the Avengers Rodgers protects Barnes believing in his innocence and the two factions of Avengers fight each other over the wrongly accused man's capture as well as audiological reasons in the end none of the Avengers die but the team is split into both the marketing and narrative of Captain America Civil War challenges the audience to choose between the viewpoints of Rogers and Stark both make their points but both are deeply problematic both legally and philosophically the number of potentially world-ending events has risen at a commensurate rate these sayings are fault I'm saying there may be a causality correlation is a mutual connection between two or more things causation is the act of making something occurred the common phrase correlation does not imply causation is used in statistics analysis to emphasize that a possible connection between two variables does not prove that one directly causes the other as a supercomputer Android one would assume that the vision would know this for example the sale of heavy coats increases in winter and the amount of Christmas lights on display increases in winter too so there is a correlation in the sense that they are both related to winter and increase during that season but the sale of coats does not cause more Christmas lights correlation perhaps causation no it's significantly more complicated than that but those are the bare bones of it sometimes this happens accidentally in analysis and sometimes purposefully to intentionally obfuscate something in civil war the vision suggests that the rise of super villains is not only related but caused by the rise of superheroes he uses the term causality as the most gentle way of implicating their existence as the reason the world has so many super-powered threats let's put the vision statement to the test in the first Thor movie Loki has his sights set on the throne of Asgard and eventually earth itself which he calls Midgard Loki is not a response to Thor though Thor's continued presence on earth during the first Avengers movie is due to his wish to protect Midgard from a threat from Asgard Hydra and everyone connected to it like the Red Skull are not responses to superheroes in Captain America the First Avenger puny Steve Rogers is transformed into well Chris Evans this early superhero was not given the Super Soldier Serum until after Hydra was created Captain America's continued work towards a safer world in the Winter Soldier is not the cause of Hydra revealing itself to have infiltrated shield according to what he learns about hydras covert activities he was encased in ice during nearly all of it he is however responsible for spoiling Hydra diabolical plans the only villain that exists due to the express and direct actions of the Avengers is Ultron one might argue that the creation of Ultron and the artificial intelligences subsequent catastrophes are reason enough for the sokovia accords a system in which to both draft and control the Avengers but wouldn't it be more accurate to say that Ultron is not the result of the Avengers but only Tony Stark more on that later the visions assertion that the Avengers mere existence is some kind of double dog dare to the villains of the world to step up their evil game does not add up based on all of the evidence laid out in the 12 Marvel Cinematic Universe films that came before Captain America Civil War so if the mere existence of the Avengers is not the cause of the existence of powerful threats to the world what is casting aside the obvious because it's a movie answer if one needs a diegetic or in-universe explanation one need only look to technology Marvel heroes and villains are based heavily in the advancement of science Steve Rogers became Captain America due to a scientist creating the Super Soldier Serum Tony Stark became Iron Man due to his mechanical genius the vision is an Android war machine has high-tech battle armor spider-man's powers come from radioactivity and homemade high-tech web-shooters ant-man shrinks and grows because of an invention Bruce Banner became the Hulk due to an experiment with gamma radiation and so on and so forth conversely villains like aim from Iron Man 3 stands for advanced idea mechanics yellow jacket and Obadiah Stane are major figures in tech companies there is a correlation between the rise of superheroes and the rise of supervillains the technology boom of the 20th century and beyond that is a correlation between two things but it is not causation superheroes are not creating super villains or vice-versa super heroes and super villains in the Marvel Cinematic Universe are both growing at the same rate but that's because they're growing from the same source what is not directly assuring in the other the only supervillain to be initially created by a superhero is Ultron and the only superhero to be initially created due to the creation of Ultron was the vision both by Tony Stark the past four years you've operated with unlimited power and no supervision that's an arrangement the governments of the world can no longer tolerate Ultron would not have existed without Tony Stark that much is undeniable the disaster in sokovia would not have happened if Ultron had not existed but what about the other incidents that secretary Ross claims are due to the Avengers let's go through them one by one new york loki in the Chitauri invaded earth through a portal above new york city secretary ross claims that the avengers were careless in reality there have not been many confirmed civilian deaths explicitly due to the actions of the Avengers instead what we see is Captain America taking charge and routing the civilian evacuation we see the Hulk soundly defeating Loki and Iron Man saving the city nearly sacrificing his life to do so secretary Ross shows a single image of the Hulk crashing through a building but there are two problems here first we do not receive any direct information that says dr. Bruce Banner actually killed anyone second banner is not the one being asked to sign the sokovia accords anyway he is absent if it were not for the Avengers and their actions in New York either the world would have suffered an invasion or the world Security Council would have successfully nuked the city intentionally causing catastrophic loss of human life of all of those available options The Avengers causing noticeable property damage and doing their best is still the most desirable outcome Washington DC Captain America Black Widow and the Falcon defeat Hydra there is destruction but again this was not caused by Steve Rogers Natasha Romanov or Sam Wilson virtually everything that happens as a result of Hydra Rogers Romanoff and Wilson did their best to limit the loss of life to a minimal and basically save the world again not a bad job Lagos Nigeria Brock rumlow better known as crossbones attempts to deploy a lethal chemical agent and also set off a bomb that would kill dozens maybe hundreds of people in a crowded Street Wilson and Romanoff foiled his chemical agent plan Wanda Maximoff a new recruit uses her powers to prevent Captain America and a crowded population from dying but is unable to send the bomb away completely any loss of life is tragic of course but if not for maksimov more would have died The Avengers saved as many as they could in the aftermath Rogers tells maksimov that had they not been there at all far more would have died and if they stopped trying next time nobody would be saved admittedly that is small comfort to the families of the deceased but the way the media and politicians in the MCU portray this is inaccurate they are heroes for saving as many as they could one might argue maximov's actions constitute negligence but let's look at the scene again rumlow sets off a bomb maximov creates a protective shield she needs to quickly shoot him somewhere to avoid massive civilian casualties he could not be sent forward because there was a crowd of civilians in front of him and he could not be sent backwards for the same reason so the only other option was up it is regrettable that anyone died but pragmatically speaking it may have been the least terrible option the Avengers are condemned for being exceptional first responders who are not godlike enough to save everyone the Secretary admonishes the Avengers for not knowing the whereabouts of Thor and the Hulk as if that bolsters his claim although this does not work as an argument in his favor for two reasons first as evidenced by what Nick Fury says at the end of the first Avengers film members of the Avengers go their separate ways after solving a catastrophe that they can only rectify as a team only to be called back when necessary Thor and the Hulk are not on 24-hour call the Avengers initiative as explained by Fury himself is not a permanent embedding of teammates second the Hulk and Thor are living people not weapons dr. Bruce Banner is a human being he is not as the secretary disrespectfully says a nuclear weapon he has the right to his own privacy he is not an animal to be tagged and tracked the implications of what the secretary says are staggering Thor is not as best the movies show a citizen of any of Earth's governments the legal mandate for him to sign the sokovia accords is a gray area that the film does not address the United Nations claimed that over 100 countries have agreed to the Accords but Thor is not a citizen of any of them what legal authority does the United Nations have to make him sign or retire anyway obviously there is no real world legal precedent for any of this but he is still under no legal obligation to give updates about his whereabouts as the secretary suggests you know where he is probably not on earth the secretary does make one good point The Avengers predominantly but not completely made up of American citizens violate the sovereignty of other nations and conduct their covert activities without the express permission of said nations some of what they do might break international law and as the vision says there is nothing inherently wrong with some form of oversight frankly even before the Avengers first assembled iron man conducted extra legal incursions into sovereign nations shield an internationally sanctioned military and espionage Force had previously served as oversight for the team but after the events of Captain America the Winter Soldier that is no longer true are the Avengers morally wrong for acting without sanction or morally wrong by acting with sanction by a dubious Authority let's be clear here in the real world the United Nations is a well-meaning diplomatic entity not a shady one world order cabal like nativists and isolationists claim and other international coalition's like NATO simply exist for mutual defense in the Marvel Cinematic Universe however an international coalition of politicians called the world Security Council previously had some authority over shield and therefore the Avengers shield was an international peacekeeping force that secretly housed Hydra that happened on their watch not the Avengers not to mention the fact that the world security council tried to mass murder the civilian population of New York with a nuclear weapon the MCU United Nations is a different entity from the now-defunct world Security Council but it still stands to inherit a dangerous amount of power with the right to potentially draft the Avengers into any conflict of their choice the MCU United States government one of the nations that support the sokovia accords denies the Avengers and presumably others basic conventions of law for detainees like the right to an attorney this government indefinitely detain x' whomever it chooses in an underwater prison called the raft this is an extreme level of security that flagrantly and shamelessly denies basic codified constitutionally mandated civil rights you chose to do that if we sign this we surrender our right to choose in Captain America Civil War Steve Rogers and Tony Stark are personified representations of freedom and security respectively Rodgers argues for individual freedoms of the Avengers and against the encroaching power of the United Nations in the era of the sokovia accords stark argues for expanding the powers of the world governments and accepting new limitations this is an age-old debate one that comes up in one form or another every election year in every speech about foreign policy or about national security in the face of terrorism freedom versus security the problem with the debate of freedom versus security is that the foundation of this argument does not often properly define what freedom actually means it mistakenly presupposes that these two concepts both abstractly and in practice are diametrically opposed on opposite ends of some political spectrum but they're not security is actually a prerequisite for freedom providing security for the citizenry and the appropriate rule of law allows individuals to exercise freedom is the purpose of government an expansion of law in a superficial way provokes the notion that freedom is always being curtailed as if Liberty and strong government are two sides of a balanced scale historically this is a mistake a minimalist government and lack of regulations disproportionately benefits those with means meaning capital and leaves those without means with less of a safety net does a society truly have more freedom if it has less laws less regulation less security because some will benefit from no oversight usually the financial and political elite but the rest will not how are they more free with less laws to protect them the word freedom can be looked up in a dictionary but it's more practical application in the real world cannot be defined by a few words when both its meaning and usage have evolved along with us as a society it's significantly more complex than that after all in the film these concepts are less abstract though we see a singular event and watch two opposing forces bicker at each other instead of working towards a mutually beneficial resolution so a lot like real life actually secretary Ross says that the sokovia accords something that must be signed by the avengers is the compromise the middle ground as he puts it but that is either logically flawed or ignorantly omitting something for there to be a compromise the potential signers of the Accords namely the Avengers would have had to have been part of said compromise part of the negotiation by definition the sokovia accords are not a compromise the Accords are a mandate Rogers chief concern with the Accords is that the United Nations could vote to send the Avengers somewhere they should not go or do something they should not do considering something the marvel cinematic universes international security community the world security council wanted to do was annihilate New York City that is a legitimate concern the United Nations may not be the shield affiliated world Security Council but once the Accords are made active the UN would have that level of power though we never see the specific the Accords feel less like a diplomatic treaty and more like a military draft Ross's implication that the Hulk and Thor may as well be nuclear weapons is insulting but by his own definition signing the Accords would be giving the United Nations those nuclear weapons both Stark and Rogers are in some way in the wrong in either their unequivocal support or a violation of the sokovia accords respectively there should be oversight as Stark's side suggests and after the signing he is legally in the right however Rogers proves his point about the unreliability of MC use version of the United Nations when the very first use of superheroes during the new sokovia accords era is the attempted arrest and in Black Panthers case attempted murder of the wrong man both Rogers and stark seemed completely on board with amending the sokovia accords later until it is revealed that Wanda Maximoff is being held against her will if they had discussed amending the Accords before the bombing it probably would have worked an amended version could give the UN the authority to veto a planned Avengers incursion into a sovereign country but also contain a provision that would allow the Avengers to refuse a UN mandated military conflict for the superheroes basic checks and balances of power generally speaking laws do not have to be signed by those it governs if we are lucky we simply elect those who create law and could theoretically vote them out should we be unsatisfied with their work but in this case the creators of the sokovia accords actually desire this new international set of laws to be signed and publicly accepted by the Avengers which changes the dynamics and power structure yes the Avengers are not their own country but let's face it the United Nations need the Avengers to save the world and the Avengers need the United Nations for legitimacy politics is about compromise and the symbiotic relationship between government Authority and the people the Avengers on mass could have opted not to sign the accords and retire like Hawkeye did temporarily and there would be nothing the US could do about it because it would not be illegal to simply retire the Accords allow for this this would be calling the un's bluff the UN needs the Avengers in action next time Loki attacks which I believe is on schedule for next year the UN does not want all the Avengers to retire that is either a bluff or catastrophic ly naive so with the Avengers all of them did not sign that would force the UN to bring Captain America and the rest of the Avengers to the negotiation table for a revised version of the Accords the UN and the Avengers could then amend the Accords to something less dangerous for all involved perhaps something that allows the UN access to the Avengers and therefore a reasonable oversight but without total military-style control a liaison more structured rules of engagement etc everyone would be more or less satisfied and the business of punching Thanos could go about as usual but then we wouldn't have a movie and that big fight scene was awesome like when ant-man got all big so good so good Captain America Civil War is actually a fine example of how diplomacy can work and how it can fail us both stark and Rogers have personal stakes in the sokovia accords either succeeding or failing our politicians behave this way all the time that is the essence of corruption cronyism and the dangers of the refusal for compromise Captain America and Iron Man represent those binary options between freedom and security respectively foolishly thinking they must be opposites we simply watch it unfold and manifest itself into a physical fight rather than an ideological one both sides contain too much extremism in the case of Rogers breaking international law or in the case of Stark giving too much authority to institutions in the MCU that have not always proven themselves trustworthy and because of this in the end both sides lose thanks for watching the latest episode of renegade cut everyone if you want to support the show you can click the orange link to my patreon that's how all of this happens if you want to subscribe and never miss an episode click on the red link if you want to watch more there are some recommended videos below I'll see you next week for another episode
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Keywords: captain america, captain america the first avenger, captain america the winter soldier, captain america civil war, civil war, iron man, tony stark, steve rogers, the hulk, black widow, black panther, spider-man, the falcon, thor, loki, avengers, age of ultron, ultron, hawkeye, war machine, ant-man, marvel, comics, superhero, superheroes, movies, film, renegade cut, marvel cinematic universe, politics
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Length: 21min 56sec (1316 seconds)
Published: Tue Sep 20 2016
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