Can Monarchs Commit Crimes? (1648 to 1649)

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👍︎︎ 30 👤︎︎ u/liberty_haz 📅︎︎ Dec 28 2019 🗫︎ replies

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You shall all feel the wrath of the Monarch!

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👍︎︎ 8 👤︎︎ u/IntercontinentalKoan 📅︎︎ Dec 29 2019 🗫︎ replies

There's a great book called The Tyrannicide Brief, about the barrister appointed to prosecute Charles I.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2005/oct/16/historybooks.features1

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I want to talk about one of the most important trials, (human trials,) in the history of the planet. It took place in January of the year 1649, before a newly created body called the High Court of Justice. The charges? Tyranny, treason, and murder. The defendant? The King of England. This trial helped to write the legal doctrine of Popular Sovereignty, which is the idea that political legitimacy emanates from the people. It's a simple idea, but it stood in stark contrast to another legal doctrine which argued that political legitimacy emanated from God, through the institution of monarchy. This was called Divine Right. Generally speaking, these two ideas stood in opposition to each other. Popular Sovereignty was bottom up, Divine Right was top down. This theoretical disagreement over the source of political legitimacy resulted in several centuries of... troubles... and one of these troubles was a thing called the English Civil War. The capstone to the English Civil War was that thing I want to talk about, the Trial of Charles I, King of England, Scotland, and Ireland. Trial of the century doesn't begin to describe it. This would be the trial of the millennia. But in order to fully appreciate what was to come, some context is required. The English Civil War is notoriously complex, some would say boring, but I would say complex. I promise to be brief. King Charles I, separately and simultaneously the King of England, Scotland, and Ireland, believed that political legitimacy emanated from God and manifested through Crown. Divine Right. A consequence of this belief is that Charles saw other sources of political power as a diminishment of his own royal authority. He therefore did everything in his power to reign without ever consulting with Parliament. This was tricky, because without the consent of Parliament you couldn't tax the people of England. To compensate for this, the King raised revenue in a number of creative ways, such as diverting money that was intended for the navy, as well as arbitrarily demanding loans from the nobility and throwing them in prison when they refused. This was exactly as popular as you might think. In time, Scotland rose in rebellion. At last, after avoiding Parliament for 11 long years, Charles was forced to, in his eyes, diminish his royal authority by asking them for funds to raise an army. Parliament was furious. Instead of giving the King his army, they went right for the jugular. They outlawed his creative means of raising revenue, and then charged some of his closest political allies with treason. A short time later, Ireland rose in rebellion. Parliament then took things up a notch and tried to take control of the military away from the King. For Charles, this was the final straw. He ordered 5 of the most radical Members of Parliament arrested. Parliament refused to give up their own, and there was a stand off. When they asked the local militia to seize the capitol, the King fled north and England was engulfed in a Civil War. The fighting dragged on for four years, leading to an unprecedented level of mobilization. The English Civil War became and remains the deadliest conflict in English history, twice as deadly as World War 1 on a per capita basis. An entire generation of men and women were profoundly radicalized by this event. Charles was eventually forced to flee up into Scottish occupied territory, where he was captured and then handed over the Parliament. The King escaped and fled to the Isle of Wight, where he was captured for a second time. From captivity, Charles was able to convince a sympathetic Scottish army to invade England, setting off a wave of royalist uprisings across the countryside. Let's pause here, because this would become an important point. After the people of England suffered World War 1 sized casualties, the King of England turned around and asked another country to invade. To the already radicalized English people, "angry" doesn't begin to describe it. Their own King had just stabbed them in the back. At great cost, the Parliamentarians fought what was basically a second Civil War, eventually defeating the Scots and quelling the uprisings. That brings us up to September of the year 1648. Parliament had just won two Civil Wars, and the King was imprisoned on the Isle of Wight. The problem was that nobody knew what to do next. Parliament was made up of two distinct bodies, the House of Commons and the House of Lords, and unsurprisingly given the context of the Civil War the House of Commons had been the ones driving the agenda. The Commons was split into two factions. The larger of the two was the Moderate faction, who favoured squeezing some religious reforms out of Charles, reducing his political power, and restoring him to the throne. The Independents on the other hand, named after their desire for independence from the Church of England, wanted to go much further. They had a long list of demands, including a call for a brand new electoral system where poor people were actually given the right to vote. A radical idea for the time. You might notice that there was no Royalist or Conservative faction. The Civil War had seen to that. So the Commons were split between the Moderates and the Independents, with the Moderates running the show. But the really interesting dynamic is that the English Army was also split. The officers generally favoured the Moderates, while the rank and file, radicalized by the Civil War, mostly favoured the Independents. This made for a complicated political situation. But of course, there were heterodox views within each of these groups, especially within the Army leadership. Lord Fairfax was the Commander-in-Chief of the Army, firmly in the Moderate camp, favouring a negotiated settlement with the King. Oliver Cromwell was Fairfax's second-in-command, and kinda had a foot in each faction. He sided with the Independents when it came to their radical religious reforms - he was quite religious himself - but he also sided with the Moderates when it came to forcing political reforms upon the King and restoring him to the throne. Or, at least that's what he had believed. The experience with the Scottish invasion had changed Cromwell, and he was no longer certain that the English people could trust their own sovereign. Henry Ireton was another high ranking general, and Cromwell's son-in-law. Ireton favoured radical political reforms, which made him an Independent. He was a firebrand, and wasn't shy about speaking out against the monarchy and the nobility. One contemporary described him as having "the principles and temper of a Cassius." *Gasp!* Cassius! We actually know what that means! But nothing's that simple. Despite being broadly aligned on policy, the Independents in the Commons kept on denouncing Ireton for various philosophical disagreements. For example, the most radical of the radicals argued that private property was an invention of the Crown, and so if the Crown went away, private property should return to the hands of the people. Ireton disagreed with this, which lead to him being perpetually cancelled by is closest political allies. But for the time being, this fighting among the Independents didn't really matter, because the House of Commons was controlled by the Moderates. They decided to send representatives from each faction to the Isle of Wight to negotiate with the King. This team of negotiators was initially quite successful. They got Charles to agree that Parliament had gone to war in its "just and lawful defence," which meant that everybody who had fought in the Civil War would be immune from prosecution. A big win. They also got him to agree to a whole host of political reforms. Parliament would become fully autonomous, with the ability to pick the King's ministers and implement their own policy. These were huge concessions. The Independents wanted radical political reforms, and it looked like they were going to get them. The Moderates wanted to restore the King to the throne in a reduced capacity, and it looked like they were going to get that too. A settlement seemed within reach. But then the negotiators made a key discovery. The King was an unreliable partner. He would make a big concession, and the next day he would take it back. They were forced to go over the same points again and again and again. The King seemed to be playing for time. When it came to religion, the two sides could not make any progress. The negotiators, particularly the Independents, wanted the Church of England to get rid of bishops and become more egalitarian. This, the King would not do. He would agree to a partial set of reforms that would expire after 3 years, but nothing more. This wasn't enough for the Independents. A less hierarchical Church of England was central to their ideology. As discussions dragged into their second month, the negotiators began to lose hope. At one point, two of the Moderates got down on their knees and begged the King to just give in to their demands. If these negotiations failed, they said, the Army, full of bloodthirsty radicals, would have no choice but to intervene. They might not bother negotiating. While this was going on, Ireton was urging the higher ups within the Army to break off negotiations and arrest the King. Ireton and others worried that the rich people in the House of Commons were going to sell out the poor people in the Army by restoring the King to power. Ireton found some support among the officers, but Fairfax, an aristocrat himself, remained steadfastly Moderate. In frustration, Ireton began going around and gathering public support for a long list of radical demands, which included putting the King on trial, abolishing the monarchy, and replacing the House of Commons with something else that better represented England's poor. He was quite successful. Public opinion began to shift, and the idea of putting the King on trial became quite popular, especially within the Army. Fairfax and his Moderate allies started to become nervous. After several days of debate, they decided to speed things along by presenting their own list of demands to the King. What they wanted was basically a military dictatorship with the King's 8 year old son on the throne as a puppet. Charles did the right thing and flatly turned them down. This was a big deal. Fairfax had just stabbed the negotiators in the back. When news broke, the House of Commons and the Army were immediately at each other's throats. Events were moving quickly now. If the House of Commons came after the Army, things might devolve into a third Civil War. Caught between a rock and a hard place, Fairfax did the politically savvy thing and publicly threw his support behind the radical Independents in the House of Commons. The Moderates were now caught between the Independent minority and the Army. They agreed to vote on some of the more radical Independent demands, like putting the King on trial, but then they delayed, and delayed, and delayed again. It quickly became clear that the Moderates were playing for time. The negotiators on the Isle of Wight were days from an agreement. On December 1st, Fairfax made his move. A bunch of soldiers showed up on the Isle of Wight with orders to bring the King to the mainland. The negotiators protested, but they had no means to resist. Fairfax seized the King. On the next day, the Army marched on London. When the House of Commons learned what was happening, the most moderate of the Moderates packed up and fled the city. Fairfax had a tiger by the tail here. He was personally a Moderate, but his Army was out for blood. He believed that if he moved quickly and forced a harsh settlement upon the King, he might be able to save the monarchy. Maybe. If not, the nobility might be next. Revolution was in the air. Within days, Fairfax had occupied the capitol. On the morning of December 6th, a bunch of soldiers lead by a guy named Colonel Thomas Pride posted up just outside the House of Commons. When Members of Parliament started showing up, Pride checked their names against a list and refused to let any of the Moderates inside. Things got out of hand pretty quickly. Some of the members tried to force their way into the building, at which point they were arrested by Pride's men and taken away. This event is known to history as Pride's Purge. In total, over 200 members were expelled from the House of Commons, including 45 who were arrested. Many of those who were turned away saw the writing on the wall and fled the city. This new purged House of Commons was less than half of its original size. People were terrified, and many feared that the purges were not over. In the weeks that followed, most people stopped showing up to the Commons. A legislative body that had once had approximately 500 members now meet with sometimes as few as 40. The Army had pulled off a coup d'etat. Critics of this new legislative body called it "The Rump Parliament," and the name stuck. But here's the thing. Fairfax did not order Colonel Pride to do this. Pride was acting on Ireton's orders. Fairfax was furious. He was not what he wanted. His plan had backfired. When Cromwell, Fairfax's second-in-command, voiced his support for Pride's Purge, Fairfax had no choice but to follow suit. He had effectively lost control of his Army. The radicals were running the show now, and they were looking to Cromwell and Ireton for leadership. This new Rump Parliament, finally free of Moderate influence, immediately got to work. On January 1st of 1649, they passed a bill establishing a new 135 member tribunal called the High Court of Justice. This body would be empowered to put the King on trial, with its members acting as both judges and jury. Fairfax, Cromwell, and Ireton were all appointed to the tribunal, with the rest being split between radical Independents from the Commons and officers from the Army. The legislation also called for a Lord President of the High Court of Justice, who would be responsible for the day-to-day running of the trial. They first went to some of the top legal minds in England, who explained to them that what they were proposing was almost certainly treason. They later found a local judge by the name of John Bradshaw who openly favoured abolishing the monarchy, and appointed him to the role. But there was a problem. The House of Lords, which was made up of prominent members of the Church and the nobility, refused to ratify the creation of this tribunal. On January 4th, the Rump in the House of Commons passed a resolution declaring that all legitimate political power flowed from the people, which meant that the House of Commons had the right to exercise full sovereign authority over all of England. Popular Sovereignty. Now things were really cookin'. According to the Rump Parliament, the House of Lords and the King were politically irrelevant. Anything passed through the Commons became law. When the King learned what the Commons was done, he said in utter disbelief that no law existed under which a the King could be charged with a crime. He was right. But it didn't matter. They would put him on trial anyway. On January 8th, the High Court of Justice met behind closed doors to discuss bringing charges against the King. By now it was clear that Fairfax had lost control of his Army, and from this point forward he rarely attended meetings. Cromwell was in charge now. King Charles had asked a Scottish army in invade England, and so the tribunal started things off by throwing around the word "treason." One member named Sidney caused a bit of a panic when he explained to the group that a King could not commit treason because the technical definition of treason was "violence against the King." And even if that wasn't true, the High Court of Justice had been established illegally, without the consent of the House of Lords. Cromwell, when he heard this, burst out in anger, "I tell you we will cut off his head with the crown on it!" Sidney, responded, "I cannot stop you, but I will keep myself clean from having any hand in this business." The tribunal pushed forward without Sidney. It was not immediately clear what kinds of crimes a King could be guilty of, and over several days they discussed every conceivable scenario. They considered charging the King with the murder of every person killed over the course of the Civil War. They considered charging him gross incompetence for the mismanagement of the English navy. They considered charging him with the murder of his own father, the former King. This was a totally made up thing, but it was convenient for their purposes because it actually met the technical definition of treason. After agonizing over these questions, the tribunal agreed on a specific set of charges that accused the King of being a tyrant, a traitor, and a murderer, who sought to subvert the fundamental laws and liberties of the nation. As an olive branch to the Moderates, the tribunal agreed to limit themselves to actual crimes that had taken place during the Civil War. Nothing about the King murdering his own father. These charges hinted at some fundamental questions. Could a King commit treason against his own kingdom? Where did political legitimacy come from? If the people rejected their King, was he still a King? These questions will be answered with the Trial of King Charles I.
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Channel: Historia Civilis
Views: 419,540
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Keywords: Historia Civilis, English Civil War, Charles I, Oliver Cromwell, Lord Fairfax, Henry Ireton, Monarchy, Kings, Legalism, England, Scotland, Ireland, War of the Three Kingdoms
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Length: 20min 22sec (1222 seconds)
Published: Sat Dec 28 2019
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