Caleb Williams vs. Andrew Luck & Trevor Lawrence (Film Breakdown) | The QB Room

[Music] welcome to the QB room sponsored by happy Dad I'm Jordan Palmer coach quarterbacks for a living apparently talk on here for a living too right yeah I guess so now what's up I'm Kyle Allen with the Buffalo Bills and uh you guys really liked our film breakdown from the Super Bowl we love doing film breakdowns so it's draft season one of the best quarterback drafts in a long time like you said I do this for a living and and and helping guys transition from amateur to Pro helping guys go from one League to the other I kind of always say like college and NFL football are kind of two different sports there are different rules there are different things the field is different the ball is there's enough different where you got to be prepared to do something that you technically haven't done before so that criteria starts with I think three things and when I say these are three things that are important these are three things that I build draft training around to help support for these guys that get drafted high and play right away the first one is see the board when I say see the board you have to understand your offense well enough to where we're trying to go understand where we're trying to go with the ball and understand how coverage is going to dictate that you're not gonna understand everything about the offense but you need to understand that on on pressure situations what they're bringing what they're not what they're bluffing out into you have to understand your offense well enough to know what your plan is versus pressure you're not going to know everything but you got to know that and then defensively uh you have to understand Personnel you go from college to Pro everybody's awesome okay but who can we exploit who can we attack who does get out of POS so I I'm not g understand everything but we got to understand that so the first one is you got to see the board the second one is you have to be able to create especially in today's game this whole game is about creating time and space and it's why some guys can run a five flat but like Tony Ron for example I don't know what he ran in the 40 but it was probably real slow and it ended up not mattering because he was a magician back there he could create time and space and Drew Brees had his way of creating time and space so you have to be able to create bu yourself time because again you're not going to see every pressure you're not going to see everything you're a rookie they double down on disguises and make it really confusing so when you drop back and you go oh you got to be able to do something then you can't just Chuck it away so the third one is decisive and as a quarterback yeah you got to be a great decision maker all that so but where you have to make decisions is you're not going to understand all the levels of the NFL game you're a rookie but you have to understand situationally and you have to learn quick situationally when I cannot force this one in there when I need to force this one in there when that look doesn't look right I'm getting to my checkdown right now that guy's floating I think I can get in in there no you need to know that you can get in there and so the decisiveness when it comes to where to go with the ball and when to let that thing go and that's I'm putting game management clock management situational football awareness second and 20 get a piece back two-minute drill just get the first first down all those types of things that we learned as a rookie you got to be able to process it quick enough to get Roll All right so when we look at these plays that we're going to break down I think all these plays that we tried to find of Caleb and of of the other two generational talents we talked about Trevor Lawrence and Andrew Luck we try to find plays that fit in these categories and and especially in Caleb's game I think when we watch Caleb on TV and we see him on Sports Center it's all the you know make a ton of people miss and throw it down field for a touchdown Which is amazing but it's not going to happen as much in the league right so that falls into certain categories so we wanted to show you plays from all these guys that are reasons why they had success earlier in their careers especially their rookie years so we're gonna roll this first one of of Caleb against Arizona State and we wanted to throw an in here that was just quintessential Caleb if you want to run it it's just it's what he does it's what not many people have ever done I think the last person I saw do it was Johnny Manzel but Caleb is just a whole another level you see him move in the pocket he sees space so well this is the create part of the game and then he keeps his eyes down feel better than I think anyone I've seen in a long time he's always looking to create he's looking to move off his spot find space and throw it downfield he's not looking to keep his eyes down and run which a lot of guys do once the pocket collapses their eyes go straight down and run all right so I can watch this play and make an argument that like this all translates to the League this is unbelievable change of Direction two hands on the ball the entire time until here vertical finds the guy so there's an element and there's conversation I have with rookies all the time or just about about the game and the and the evolution of your game and so as spectacular as this highlight is that's a freaking dime it's like unbelievable Play It's heads up handful of people can make it all that all those we can say all those things but there's an evolution that needs to happen when you go from college to Pro and if you go back to high school and again when we were talking about generational where you said number one pick like but also like number one recruit coming out so like all the way through right so Caleb was also Elite 11 MVP and number one high school recruit in the country so it's kind of like Trevor Lawrence's Adidas campaign number one since day one yep there's an evolution that has to happen and when you're in high school and you become a five star and you go Elite 11 and you get all these accolades now probably a ton of money you're rewarded the behavior that's rewarded is making plays right your highlights is what goes viral highlights is what you send people right and so you're rewarded off of making plays not taking the check down not taking the hitch not dumping it to the flat right when you get to College you win a Heisman you don't win a Heisman from taking the flat you win a Heisman from making plays right becoming a number one pick a lot of it is based off of your ability and the ceiling and all those things that we hear and so now look at this play through this lens because when you get to the league which you need to do and and I'm not saying that they haven't done it yet I'm just saying you need to do a lot more of it is learn how to just straight up put the ball in play and take what they they give you and so take a peak down here at the bottom and as spectacular as this play it was my question is did any of it need to happen when the hitch has a nine yard cushion a retreating corner and a player that's getting held inside with two isolation routes and so that's why I look at it and I go unbelievable playmaking ability and the evolution of his game is going to be off the first step throwing that hitch and taking six yards on First and 10 On The Fringe Of The Red Zone and so this is a perfect example and I'm not they might have told him not to throw it to him so this is I'm not judging this play right but those types of plays in the NFL right here that's open that's why that's open you know what I mean so his eyes are starting left I get it but like but you scheme all week to get that up top I mean fair fair 100% fair and I've taken that 100 times 100 but I'm no not the Creator that Caleb Williams is though too and so what happens is we want to see people get wide open or make a play and what I see right here is three potential first downs you know and instead you know a sports center top 10 college football player of the year yeah and then the difference in the league and in college football is is all those guys rushing you are just as fast and just as athletic as you so and that's where we go from the experience part and that's why CJ Stout in my opinion was such an anomaly is because you usually learn those things by experience right you usually learn that by by the the second time you trying to turn around and and do a spin move out of the pocket and you turn around and the dn's staring you down in the face and mows you down that what hurts and you don't really do it again but this is what also makes him great and he's he's adapted his game throughout his career so it's all about adapting like you said it's all about about becoming and evolving into that player into the NFL which is a different game which is why the next clip that we show is why I think he's gonna adapt and he's gonna become a better player so let's let's go from the top of this play right you see this play it looks simple a snag right yeah that's it looks boring it looks simple people have seen thousands of more Caleb Williams plays that are way cooler but this to me excites me about Caleb Williams right so if you go from the beginning go all the way back to the beginning it looks pre snap right they're on the three yard line I don't know what down it is but it looks like cover zero pre- snap right so this is all about Caleb William processing being decisive in seeing the field right all these plays kind of fit into certain categories this isn't about creating this is about being decisive in seeing the field and right now he knows he has a fiveman protection and there's seven people down here exactly so he knows he has issues but look how calm he is when he snaps the ball he knows where his answers are so it's always about when we talk about in the quarterback room about yeah versus this protection you need to do this blah blah blah like there's a bunch of different answers but it's really about knowing your issues and knowing your answers and putting the ball in play so here go back to the beginning snaps the ball he sees that linebacker in the right jump out he knows he's good right right he gets his eyes to the right he sees that linebacker that jumped out he's going to say is he going to take the snag or is he going to take the flat the linebacker's wrong here he overplays the snag he runs to the flat Caleb sits he's on his back foot he wakes and make a quick decision puts the ball in play bam touchdown yeah if this is one of those hot potatoes like I'm not I'm not really sure what I'm seeing right now and I can't really tell if that guy came or not all that stuff like then you're throwing this to the flat 100% And it's a two to yard gain or you're scrambling like he does sometimes but what he's doing here and is what's in my opinion is the hardest thing in the NFL right now is when you transition to the league is Red Zone play like throwing the ball in the red zone is is exponentially harder than throwing the ball on the field and if he can make these quick decisions see the field put the ball in play understand where guys are and where the ball needs to go like this this is the transition that he needs to make to the NFL yeah totally agree uh again this is a perfect example of not making a play play putting the ball in play and going through it and it looks like oh he's wide open it's an easy throw hopefully that was helpful to understand how many things you have to process just to be able to throw that little Choice route right there um but it's processing and it's putting the ball in play not going running not doing what we did on last play which is run around and probably end up scoring a touchdown either way to be honest exactly yeah I think there's a time and place for it but I think like percentage wise right in in college and and or in college he's probably 40% making a play 60% playing on schedule I think in the NFL depending on who you are and depending on how bad you want your body to feel after a Sunday I think it's really 20% making a play and 80% just putting the ball in play depending what athlete you are and it's not we don't want to take away from how special he is at doing those things but I think there's a time and place for them yeah and honestly you've seen momes do this because if you go back through all the touchdowns that have been happening in the playoffs for the Chiefs it's a lot of flat routes it's a lot of stick routes it's a lot of checkdowns it's a lot of the slam flat on a naked number four it's a lot of scheming to find a high percentage throw uh I go back to college when my roommate in college was a Spurs fan and Spurs were rolling they won the championship all the time and it was like he was would watch every game I'm like I can't watch these guys they have so many freaking layups and so many boring Bank shots from four feet but like yeah because their spacing and ball movement got really high percentage shots and so I think the same thing of quarterback play um and that Evolution has it it has happen at some point uh because like you said depending on how your body feels like you can't just make plays all right so here we are third and three this is overtime it was one of three overtimes I believe in this game versus Arizona uh must-win situation I know Arizona was good and rolling at the end but Caleb Williams defending Heisman USC like you can't lose Arizona at home you know so this is definitely a got to Habit and uh this is just a sick Run Okay pulls it stops the nickel cuts inside outruns the safety to a spot breaks that tackle and two more tackles and ends up on his feet um and this is just an example of like creating right so we already showed the one earlier where he runs around and drops a dime down the field and that's could have pulled from a long list of those highlights that are readily available uh and even though he only played like two and a half years but this does translate to the NFL I these aren't NFL guys trying to get him but it doesn't matter this his vision his ability to create as a runner down the field he's probably not goingon to run a 40 at his pro day I don't really care what his 40 is I think Josh ran like 478 or something like that yeah in Indie he a 478 in games irrelevant yeah and so like does this translate or is this a college thing like no he's going to be an elite Runner I think next year in the league and it's and it's it shows the willingness too I think there's a lot of guys who can create with their legs and they can and throw the ball downfield and do things but it's the willingness it's the competitiveness it's it's what you see in in Josh it's what you see in Pat in Laton games that's what you see in Lamar Jackson it's it's the willingness to go down there and create with your legs and it makes it so much easier on offensive coordinators when they call a shitty play and their quarterback figures out a way to make it worth it with their legs right they're just ironically it's something Justin Fields has done a great job of in Chicago Fields has been unbelievable for that right it's it's and it's it's where the game is moving right defenses are getting more complicated therefore offensive has to simplify and therefore you're not gonna always have the perfect play like you used to pton Manning and Tom Brady used to be able to get to the perfect play pre- snap every time because defenses were a little bit simpler that was their game they could check they could get to it now today's game is all right here's the play let's make it work how can you make it work and there's a little bit more on the quarterback in that perspective but the guys that are doing it well are the guys that are winning all the games and winning championships yeah it's a great Point all right so that was a bunch of examples of Caleb Williams being great doing what he does best and what we think is going to translate to him having success early in the NFL fell and I could have shown a hundred more clips of how awesome he is and all the different things but I think for him to to have success it comes down to those traits and and and a bunch of other things of course situation wise but if he can Master those things and and learn early like CJ stra did and and some other guys have done in the past and like some of the other guys did that we're goingon to show you right now Andrew Luck and Trevor Lawrence um it's gonna it's gonna help his career a ton but a lot of the times you're learning by fire right and I want to make sure that that's that's known is CJ shroud is an anomaly and there's there's other guys who have success early they're anomalies but learning by fire is is normal pton Manning is always the example I think Aaron Rogers early in his career too but it's gonna happen and and the biggest thing is we talk about this all the time is you just can't make the same mistake twice yeah you got to learn from your mistakes quick but so let's get into Andrew Luck right now I think Andrew Luck probably was the biggest recruit biggest Prospect of all time until Trevor Lawrence he was kind of the bar yeah yeah and and he did a lot lot of these things early in this rookie year so we pulled a little Clips these are some 2012 Clips by the way we're deep in our bag right here 2012 Andrew Luck rookie year tape if you go back to the beginning here so This falls into a couple categories here and honestly I think it falls into all three categories in my opinion right the three categories is creating being decisive putting the ball in play right so Andrew Luck this is end a half 14 seconds left it's third and three right so situation wise right now right they have no timeouts can't take a sack the ball's in bounds the the half's over so we're either throwing it out of bounds ball or we're putting one in the end zone right and you're in field goal range and this is his second game he ever can't take a sack exactly right ball can't get complete inbounds if it's thr to the goal line um and obviously can't turn it over and do something stupid with the ball exactly and this is Andrew Lu second start ever so he comes here right he sees the field Minnesota's smart they play cover two they want to keep everything inside they want to keep it inside the numbers inside the sidelines tackle some many in bounds he moves in the pocket dissects the coverage figures out what they're doing steps off his spot puts the ball in play throws a dime right before half I mean some guys have never done this in their careers you know this is just an unbelievable play for major luck yeah and it's the ability that when to create time in space now here's the concept so this is not wide open from the jump he's probably determining rout about right here that this guy can't get to this ball right it's Tampa Mike he's just throwing it past him I mean the Mike's just kind of No Man's Land sees Andrew leave and then Here Comes Reggie Wayne and he's just throwing it over him this is unbelievable trust and at the same time again look here's way that's a good angle actually it's weird watching it from TV but like here's what he sees you know this ball the ball's right here Reggie hasn't ran past the Mike linebacker yet so he let that thing go when that linebacker is probably eight or 10 yards deeper than Reggie Wayne and he's still trusting he's going to get to that spot and that's with one of the better safeties in the league coming off the hash who was a young dude back then yeah a young Harrison and he's getting smoked and he's probably had a total of 50 pass attempts in NFL regular season games at this point and we talk about creating this is sometimes this is all it did we showed a crazy uh Caleb Williams highlight how about just sliding to your right because homeboy in The Middle's bull rushing your Jeff Saturday or whoever it is and buying time on that so I mean it's and that's that in my opinion that is what creating mostly is in the NFL creating space in the pocket and there's not many times where you're going to be able to slide through a hole and get a bunch of yards it's creating that extra half second to where I can get that ball off and as he's throwing this he's getting hit yeah absolutely let's get into this click here fourth and 10 down five last play of the game four seconds left yes so if you if you notice so far in our film breakdowns we love situational football right I think situational football is the most interesting thing to break down on Saturdays of every game week we have a situation tape from guys around the league and every other team of guys who did it good and guys who it up bad and so situations are our favorite stuff but this is a little later in the year he's had some reps this is fourth third down fourth down end of the game and this is just creating putting the ball in play trusting it and he's trying to go throw a block there too you know but that's to win the game right and so just go back to the top what do you call this red eight is this like Red Zone quarters yeah it's just Red Zone quarters and everyone just stand on the goal line it just looks like crap Birds on a wire right here and then these guys are all pushing like what's coach gonna call that's gonna look good here you know yeah well you look he keeps his eyes down field right it's fourts with a shallow he steps up in the pocket how many guys throw this ball to the shallow here right so many guys are trying to make it make a play make it in the end zone he trust it so many guys are doing this and trying to throw the ball as hard as they can across the field yeah and for him to just step up and put it in play and you know Andrew Luck he's probably looking to go block 52 here 100% but it's just the simple right it's the simple movements it's the simple creation it's the he was some of the best pocket movement I've ever seen and he gets up in there and he sees the board right you see that huge gap he saw that Gap that's why he threw it to him he sees the board puts in play he's decisive he gets it to him quick and he's smart enough to get it to a faster guy even though he's super fast like yeah put it in the hands of a lot of guys are going to pump fake right there and run and get tackled on three yeah but it's just these things right it's just all falls into these categories and I think Andrew Luck did a really good job of it his rookie year and he also learned by fire a lot by throwing a lot of interceptions turning the ball over taking a lot of big hits and he definitely saw the board and you talked about the pocket movement side of things and uh from a decisive standpoint that was the key seal he threw a ton of picks was able to wipe it off and move on and also threw a ton of touchdowns and had a bunch of fourth quarter comebacks which is almost more impressive yeah yeah all right last clip yeah so this is so this is why I wanted to show this clip is it's early in his career this is his first game you look at the score they're getting blown out right but this is in my opinion your your first game you're getting blown out how can I stay in the game how can I be decisive how can I trust what I'm doing how can I get better in the game and this is kind of a similar concept to the first clip we showed of Andrew Luck Right This falls into the seeing the board and being decisive buckets so we got Max protection right we got three verticals here Texans Go cover two he sees it he kind of gets back on his spot he sees the safety inside too far throws the whole shot for a 50- yard dime for a touchdown this is a great view of it right here right he's got to make a move up in the pocket probably could have thrown it to either one of them but either of them but he made a decisive decision through a rope put it on there touchdown and so it's those plays right when you see those plays like I'm sure the coaches they see those plays it's encouraging right they say like we if we can repeat these things if you can trust yourself see it step up quick one hitch two hitch ball out and you see the guys who are having success early it's the guys who are trusting themselves too I think all those buckets fall into trusting yourself too 100% and Trust in what's around you and this is not how this drop looks on air so this is an example also of creating time in space this is not what you do with the top of waggle it's what you do with the top of the waggle if you got a defensive end coming at you 100% the back foot hits the ground that's not a hitch right there that's a hard climb off essentially your eighth step because it's opening the left um yeah being in position no where number one is and getting it out Trevor I I I did like a piece of content on brce the other day and I I put Bryce in the same category as Trevor where dumpster fire rookie year walls are caving in how many more weeks do we have left type of situation and I said it after Trev year that that is going to have nothing to do with his second year MH like it's not going to I have no worries about his confidence and is he wounded dog now is he like there's certain dudes where you'd worry if that if they really deal with a lot of adversity early in their career a lot of a lot of players Trevor was one where you go that's gonna be irrelevant Year too Bryce young that's gonna I'd say the same thing it's it's not gonna the team might not be better I don't know we'll see but he's not going to be ruined heading into year two we're all good um and Trevor was a perfect example of that because to have arguably the worst rookie year ever and then you know the biggest comeback in playoff history and then they damn near beat the Chiefs m in in uh in Kansas City just really string it together man um and then build on it again this year is a perfect example of why you draft somebody number one and why you have to have patience as a fan base and why those unrealistic expectations that I talked about in the beginning if you're really a fan you would be trying to not fan the flames on having unrealistic expectations and you just be a little more patient uh because it' make it easier on the quarterback that you guys just picked um and this is this guy's an example Caleb again if Caleb goes to a team and they're trash next year it ain't going to matter going into year two they're going to be nor what happens when you're the number one pick too you're going to a trash team you know they a reason why they're the number one pick most of the time but I agree I I think Trevor is a great example I think there's a ton of guys who are great examples of of expectations going into year one how do I fight through them how do I stay levelheaded and how do I just stay Within Myself and trust myself I think it's just such a self-confidence thing and such a self trust thing yeah so we're basically saying we both agree he's checking all three boxes right here his ability to see the board um he was a roomy he's been on our show before Caleb and um I remember in the conversation we said who did you watch when you went to SC uh who' you when you went to to Oklahoma who' you watch to learn did you watch Jaylen Herz did you watch Baker Mayfield or did you watch uh Kyler or Kyler Murray you know you got three different amazing Heisman Trophy winning players and uh he's like yeah I watch Baker because he can't do the physical things that the other two guys can do I know I can do those things I wanted to see guy who plays in the system without the ability to run uh at the level that they did and so like that's super smart that's what a smart franchise quarterback would probably do learning a system and so seeing the board he does currently and whatever they ask him to do in the league it's not going to be that complicated for him he'll be straight um being decisive yes we've seen it a ton ability to create yeah I mean as as much as anybody that I've seen coming into the draft the biggest thing is going to be his Evolution on going from being a non stop playmaker to also be an guy who can put it in play and then also I think simplifying his movement and mechanics I think as he gets plays longer he'll do that more and you're going to see some great results out of him you guys really liked based off the viewership and comments you guys really like the film breakdowns uh we're down to do more um we're not going to break down this weekend's game because there isn't one but there's all sorts of stuff we can do we're flirting with the idea of doing maybe some free agency stuff and maybe some uh draft guys and also we've got some pretty cool pretty cool event coming up next week uh but follow us on social we'll be kind of talking more about what's going on uh some of the best quarterbacks in the world are going to be coming and sitting down with us and kicking it um at at an amazing event next weekend and uh so we got some fun stuff this offseason we got your bachelor party this weekend I'm fired up I do I just came back from one too so sorry about my voice and my tan yeah we uh had somebody else's but this weekend's Kyle's big golf trip fired up um and then uh yeah we got a bunch of stuff this offseason thank you so much for tuning in thank you for happy Dad and prize pick uh for coming alongside us and uh if you want more stuff it's the offseason let us know in the comment section obviously share this with your friends and all that um but uh we appreciate you tuning in if you're still watching and we'll see you here in the next [Music] episode

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Published: Wed Mar 06 2024