Building a table to hold my vise

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I got tired of using inferior quality vices, so I  bought myself a good one. This is a Wilton 600S.   Has a 6 inch wide jaw, 5-1/2 inch throat depth,  opens to 10 inches, and it weighs more than I do.   Needless to say, a vise like this deserves  a really solid mounting point in the shop. So this massive plate of steel — we've had  it in the shop for a long time — it's a 58   inch diameter piece of 3/4 inch plate. It's  not quite flat, but it weighs 565 pounds   and I think that'll make a nice anchor for  the vise. And it'll make a nice table too. So big vices like this are commonly mounted  on a pedestal in the middle of the room,   so that you can work all the way around them. And  I can see that as a big advantage, however in my   opinion that pedestal either has to be concreted  into the floor, which isn't an option in my case,   or it needs to have a really big heavy base  on it in order to be stable enough. And a big   heavy base is gonna be terribly in the way —  I'm gonna constantly be kicking it. So that's   why I like the idea of mounting it to a table,  because as long as the table weighs quite a bit,   it has such a large stance with the legs  five feet apart or so that is really stable. Of course mounting a vise on a round  table isn't going to work very well,   because I'll constantly be running into the  table here and here. There's no such thing as   mounting it on the corner. So what I'm going  to do is move the vise out and mount it on a   frame extension that holds it about here,  and that way I'm able to leverage the mass   and the stability of this table, while still  being able to work on three sides of the vise. Okay let's get started on the build. The first  step is going to be to make an octagonal frame   that will go under the table. This will  be made out of 2x4 inch square tube,   standing on edge, and then onto the bottom of that   I'll weld on four legs. Those will  be made out of 4 inch square tube. So to make an octagon we need a 22-1/2 degree  angle, and luckily the bandsaw comes with   a handy scale we can use for that. Yeah I  think it'd be better if I use a precision   protractor maybe. If you're in the market for  a bandsaw, try to find one with a swivel head,   that way you don't have to turn the  entire machine like this for angle cuts. For every section of the octagon,  I can slide it forward I think it's   19-7/8 inch and flip it over to reverse  the angle. By the way this is 3/16 wall   tube if you were curious. The octagon  measures 48 inches to the outside. So this bandsaw is really good  at making super crooked cuts,   so I'm gonna have to grind that back out,  and for that I'll use my belt grinder. I have my adjustable table set to 22-1/2 degrees,   and after I get it exactly 22-1/2  in that direction I can switch to   my 90-degree table and then hold the  tube upright to get it square that way. And now that those all fit nicely,   I can use the belt grinder again to chamfer  the edges to get ready to weld this together. So I've been trying for a while to get this  octagon squared up using a tape measure and a   square and this protractor, and I have not been  able to get it even close. So per my design,   this octagon was going to have an X through  the middle of it, so I think I'm going to go   ahead and make the X now, and that way I'll  be able to reference the octagon off of that,   and that should make it quite a bit easier. Also  this plate, as I mentioned earlier, is not flat.   So welding this up on the plate wouldn't have  been that great anyway. If I make the X first,   I should be able to reference off of that and  make the whole frame a little bit flatter. So one way I have the piece of 4 inch  square tube running all the way across,   and then here and here I'm gonna have  pieces of 2x4 standing on edge. The   vise is going to be connected to this piece,  so that's why it's kind of a bigger piece. I don't know, does that look strong enough,  or do you think it'll collapse when I start   to use it? Maybe I should have  over-built it a little bit. I'll start my welding this one,  and then when I put this one on,   I'll use a straight edge across here to  get it flat. And after the first tack weld   I check it with a square again to make  sure that tack weld didn't warp it. And   here I'm putting a shim under the one side  to the level off that joint so it's flat. Now I'm thinking if I just put these right across  the ends, make them square and centered, that   should put all of those in the right spot. So I  can just insert these, and end up with an octagon. So you'll notice that for each one of these  I'm rotating it 90 degrees and doing the   welding here on the same side. If  there's any twists in this plate,   that's going to cause this piece to end  up out of parallel with that piece. And   I want to make sure that all of them are out of  parallel the same way, because then when I add   the pieces in between here, that will sort of  average that out, and on average it'll be flat. For getting these pieces positioned correctly,   I marked the center point right here, and I  also marked the center of the octagon right   there. That way I can use my ruler to measure  out how far this needs to be from the center,   and I can also put a square against  here to get it at a 45 degree angle. Oh yeah, it turns out that  thing's heavy and I can't   pick it up just by squeezing  the tube. A clamp helps that. I had to tack on this little scrap,  because otherwise there's nowhere to   put a ground clamp on this thing. The gap  was pretty large on some of these corners,   so I had to just use a bunch  of tack welds to fill it in. So after all that welding, I was expecting  this to be warped out of flat by quite a ways,   but I'm quite impressed. This is the worst  spot there is, where the straightedge doesn't   touch in the middle, but if I press it down  [scraping sounds] so that is close! Anyways,   we're ready to move on now, and add the legs.  The legs are going to be in these four positions,   and they'll be braced over to the X, which  is kind of the reason to have the X there. So I got the four legs cut. Now, I could either  put these legs on the outside like these are,   or I could put them on top of the frame — or  should I say on the bottom of the frame — like   this one is. Now this I think is stronger,  however it's reducing the table's footprint,   and that'll make it more likely to tip over.  So I have to decide — oh right, I like to make   things difficult for myself, so I'm gonna notch  these out and put them half on and half off. Yep. I had to stop it there, because  we're up to the line there. So the next thing I'm gonna do is cut  the end of these legs off at 45 degrees,   and cap that. This piece of material right  here against the table isn't doing very much   good anyways, because I'm not going to weld it  to the table this close to the edge. I might   as well make more room for clamps under the  table by getting rid of this little section. So if you're wondering why I didn't just cut  this at an angle and use a plate to cap it,   that's because I wanted this corner  radius to follow around the corner.   This is a little more work,  but I think it'll look better. This will give me room for clamps  to go anywhere. This should still   be plenty strong especially once  I put a brace across to the X. You can hear the band saw in the background  cutting out some 2x4 inch braces for some   of the other legs, but for right now  I'm gonna make the brace for this leg,   out of this little piece. It's just going  to be a little tiny brace in the corner,   but I think it'll add quite a bit of strength. So that leg gets just that little brace in the  corner, and then this leg and this leg get a   similar small brace, but then this leg gets  a lot more bracing, because it's the one that   the vise is going to mount on. So it's going to  have a large 4x4 brace going down to that tube,   and then on each side will be this 2x4  brace going over to the Octagon. That   piece got too short to hold in the bandsaw, so  I'll have to cut it using the angle grinder. Got all the angle braces cut. For this  one, I actually ran out of 2x4 tubes,   so I had to splice together some scraps.  All of them are ready to weld in place now. The frame is up to about 300 pounds at  this point and pretty difficult to manage. I got all of the welding done on the  frame. Now I'm gonna go ahead and   try to stand this frame up, and then  I'll get started on the vise mount. Next up I'm going to make the vise mount that  sticks out here. This is going to be made from   two pieces of 2x4 inch tube. They're  going to be notched around the leg,   and welded together like this. And notice  they're going to be a couple inches lower   than the table top, which is fine, because that  vise is quite tall and I don't want it that high. I forgot to mention it, but there will be  a plate on top of these, so the vise won't   sit directly on the square tubes. It'll sit on a  plate. This is just there to support that plate. Here I'm getting started drilling the holes  where the bolts will go to mount the vise. If you're wondering why I drilled these  holes so big, it's because I like to put   bushings through rectangle tube to prevent  the bolt from squashing the tube. In this   particular case it's probably not necessary,  because I'm not going to tighten them very   tight on that vise anyways, or I'll break  the little cast iron feet off. But as a   matter of principle I just never put a bolt  through rectangle tube without a bushing. So these are the right distance  apart for the back feet on the vise,   but if you look from the top, you can see  that the front feet are a wider spacing than   the back feet. So for the front feet, I'm going  to basically just notch the corner out of here,   and then weld the bushing right on to  the edge. And instead of using pipe,   I'm going to bore a piece of solid to  make a little better bushing for those. This plate caps the end and  adds a little bit of strength. So obviously at this point it looks super  flimsy, so we need to add a brace in here.   And that's going to be exactly the same  as this brace, so they'll be symmetrical. So after putting a straightedge on here like  this, and measuring the gap, I found that it   was a little bit out of parallel with the surface  that the table will mount to. So I used this clamp   to pull that into square, and while the clamp  is holding that, I'll weld the angle brace in. This isn't quite wide enough to mount the  vise on, so I'm going to weld down this   plate. Rather than just leaving this  as a simple rectangle, I'm actually   going to profile the outside to approximately  the same shape as the base on the vise. I don't think it's necessary to cut this  exact shape out, so I'm going to connect   this point with this point and just make  that a straight line. And then here on the   front where this actually sticks out further  than the feet, I'll connect it like this. Alright the frame is all finished up. I got  these corners and these welds all ground flush,   so the top of the frame should be perfectly  flat. Now I'm gonna flip this over on top   of the plate — I'll probably clean up the  plate a little bit first — and weld it on. I'm gonna use this clamp to squeeze the  table up to the bottom of the frame,   to close any gaps that there might be, and I'm  just gonna weld this on at 8 points. So I'm   going to weld on each of these corners, and also  on each of these sections. The reason I'm keeping   the welds to a minimum is to prevent warping  this 3/4 inch plate any more than I need to,   and I'm just gonna weld probably about  an inch long bead on each of those. Great news! I went all the way around with  this piece of paper, and I can't make it   go under the octagon anywhere, and I  also can't make it go under the X out   here. Which means the tabletop is completely  tight against the frame all the way around. I should have said this earlier, but the way  the plate was sitting here it was bowed like   this. So I put the big 4x4 tube right down the  middle of that bow, and then by going all the   way around the outside and clamping it tight,  that automatically made it tight in the middle. I'm making some feet to put at the base  of the legs — where feet usually go — I   chamfered both of these parts so that they  can be welded together and then ground flush. So this table isn't exactly completely done yet,  but to be honest I am kind of burnt out on this   project. I've been working on it for weeks, and  I'm gonna go ahead and flip it right side up now,   mount the vise on it, and it'll be done  for now. I still need to make a way to   move it using the pellet jack, but I'll deal  with that later, and I'll paint it later. I'm not 100 percent sure how this is going to  work, but I'm going to try to pick up from the   vise mount with that crane, and hopefully from  there I'll be able to flip it onto its feet. It seems to be at its balancing point now so  it's ready to come this way when I let it down. That was a pretty long journey, but I got  it up to those two feet — without dying — so   now I have to somehow figure out how to roll  it onto its four feet — also without dying. So I used a floor jack to pick it up  to this point, and I'm using a clamp,   squeezing the edge of the table, and using the  crane to prevent it from falling all the way over. Well would you look at that! It's right side up.  And for now I can move it around with this setup,   just picking it up right in the middle, and it  can't really fall over as long as the feet are   only 1/2 inch off the ground. So now I'm going  to move the vise over here and mount it, finally! So I've got the vise mounted. There's  just a tiny gap here, as planned,   so the top of the jaws on this vise are at 45-1/4  inch off the floor when the tabletop is at 36. This is a 4 foot long piece of  square tube. I'm doing this just   to show that this table does not tip over easily. Well I think that's it for this one.  I'm really happy with the vise mount,   it's super rigid and I can work with pretty much  all the way around the vise, to the point that   I can hacksaw backwards from either side of the  vise. Also I've never experienced what it's like   to have a vise that's just cantilevered out from  a surface like this. There's room under here. I   think I like it! Oh and the table is nice too.  I might have another video about painting it   and building the pellet jack mobilizer, and  I might not, I don't know. You'll see what it   looks like painted in future videos though, as  long as you stick around! Thanks for watching!
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Channel: Jer Schmidt
Views: 320,299
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Keywords: Vise, vice, mount, stand, pedestal, table, welding table, wilton, wilton 600, 600s, 600n, build, metalworking, project, welding, welder, diy, workbench, worktable, steel, heavy, bench, how to, rigid, sturdy, homemade, iron, metal, make, round
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Length: 22min 15sec (1335 seconds)
Published: Thu Jan 17 2019
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