Buddah Bless: Placement Strategies, How to Get Paid First! Free Beats? Sampling Problems, Branding

what can they do networking wise to to you know saying get placements first of all give away free [ __ ] i ain't thinking about the teacher said that [ __ ] though why the [ __ ] would i give you 400 right now i don't know you [ __ ] that's why a lot of producers do good not pulling up like why are y'all bitching up at that [ __ ] like i never used the loop it's not one record you heard of mine where somebody sent something from somebody like i play everything out let me ask y'all that i know this y'all interview but let me just how y'all feel about it you lit it here right there here we go man welcome to another episode of the podcast man we got who is jb with us what's good and we got legendary man you know what i'm saying hey hey what's up man buddha bless his beat man yeah this man got a track record bro like i was taking notes last night and i was trying to like get all your credits i just ended up like screenshotting them yeah yeah i've seen i seen it on the ground yeah yeah we got coming booty yeah yeah come on we got some work going anyways man this man produced heat by chris brown modern slavery by travis scott cuevo call casting by amigos outwist by travis scott young the nba young boy make no sense two chains big amount with drake and that's like half bro that's not even all of that [ __ ] bro and that just sounded good that sounded good that sounded good hey so i mean we're really going to start from the top bro like let's start from all the way back like i know in your life i know you said you're from new york right yeah i was yeah i was born in new york but yeah just talk about like where you from and how you guys start into music before i was born in new york i was raised in atlanta i'm still like stone mountain lot on you i still you know that's why i was raised at that point yeah but um like my i would always go back to new york for the summers and my dad stayed in um east hart like he stayed in harlem so every time i go back to new york i'll just be in harlem with my dad for like like five six summers every time i go back and so uh my ear like everything i used to just hear like my favorite rapper 50 cent you know saying so being up there like going to summers up there while he was hitting during his time it was just that's when i really just like got crazed crazed crazed crazy about hip-hop but mom the way i started making beats was my uncles i always played keys because you know me and my brother was in the church heavy but um my uncle my uh my my aunt married my uncle i was young i was really young but he did records um he had an artist signed with a kadar kedar mastenburg i think they was with uh i forgot what they might have been on the label under dev jam i'm not sure but a plus last key child and they did a lot of um they did a lot of records you know them new york underground records like they did a lot of rayquan they did you know uh prodigy mob they did stuff like that so really they just um my uncles my uncle joe he uh he just you know i was just watching what he did he watched a little dreaming with how the hell he did it and stuff like that and i just took it and made it my own so you learn music there like in the church yeah yeah no i learned in the church for sure um sitting behind mr minister andrew doyle um like who i like like far as like keys and just everything the way i play chords and just stuff like that watching minister doyle uh just sitting behind the organ sitting behind the keys and my brother we should sit behind minister mike he just watching him doing what he did you know what i'm saying just like that so like with it being like 2021 now we got like new generations of producers where we mostly rely on like loops and midis it's like music theory it's like an important thing right now uh to me personally yes because um i mean it's still off music theory like even the person who's making the loot they still have to have some type of music there is the person who gets to loot their you know i'm saying they they have to do less of music theory and even still they have to do music theory with patterns and drums and matching the most of the time they don't have basically to put an 808 and matching the 808 to the um that but to me personally it really does cause i never use the loop like it's not one record you heard of mine where somebody sends something from somebody like i play everything out i gotta you i use hardware i use my modex hey y'all y'all need to sponsor me too man cause i'll be putting on for y'all but um i got a uh yamaha modex which one uh the yamaha is the modex it's called the modex then they got like different versions m-o-d-x is they got that modx six seven and eight my friend got the six them all they yeah they made they all the same they just wanted to smaller you know bigger like that type thing but um all my sounds is in that like keyboard like i'm a i'm that that keyboard is that's a man dollar keyboard i got but everything is played live out of there and instead of like being in vsts i get to get to scroll through my keyboard and edd piano boom boom boom record that next sound [Music] i don't like quantizing either because it make it sound more realistic you know of course my drums is but like far as live sound i always just try to play it the best i can and you know is the quality on a different level coming straight to me it is it's more of like because i always grew up playing like that i always had like a long-ass board in front of me you know i'm saying i used to hold the service like that i didn't even go i didn't even have go to uh like get like jobs and stuff like in high school and stuff like mcdonald's i didn't do that i played the kids they'll play paid me and my brother like 75 dollars is a sunday and then it was this church they paid us 150 you know i'm saying like it was just you know that's how it was but it was always so comfortable with me and i really cause i always i was using vsts but um i went to make beats with honorable c note and you know he owes he you know he you know saying his sound he just have a good enough sound to still make records for today but he he's the way he make beats is real old school it's real like real you know what i'm saying so i went to when we made um we went to go make superstars me and him only really made one beat together ever still like i just went i pulled up on him once on something like you to be homie and he was like you play something and i play [Music] dude little piano intro piano and it was recording in pro tools i'm like um okay i see like it's just it's just different like i see how hardware worked now like i always knew about hardware i always had it but just it was so simple as just plugging it into your audio box and recording it but i ain't gonna count i straight away from hardware because i ain't really no music there i think a lot of producers do that because you ain't really got they think you don't you like the only choice you have is just to play your [ __ ] but like they don't even know about media out there yeah yeah yeah yeah that's true that's true yeah you can lose like hardwood boards like like a vst for real and click in yeah yeah you sure can but i i personally try to keep it cause i i'm like i study music like you say music theory is i study music and it's the music i study to get the sound that i want to achieve like like james brown in them they didn't have 808's um hey most of the time in every record they had a bass guitar they had a guitar they had probably three listen to it they had three horns maybe three or four horns the drummer sometimes it might be a roll piano or a piano just might may come in but it was pretty consistent really everybody back then if you really listen to everybody they sound was consistent to those instruments but it's just how they use them and um like the chords they chose to use and that's what i try to get because that music is just lauderd it's not a lot i don't know if that's the word it's just praise so differently than like the music we make now what you mean like it's more timeless yeah it's like it's more of a timeless feel so i try to um like do as much as i can go back and get that feeling like if you like most people who describe my sound like i didn't even know what the word mean i just thought took it as props but i really want to look to that one day nostalgic yeah so yeah yeah that's what i didn't even know what to mean i'm just like oh [ __ ] saying my [ __ ] wavy you know what i'm saying but it's like it's really they really saying like nah and i really want to look the word up it was just like oh okay they really tapped into what i'm how i really you know i'm saying like what i really do to listen is like my sessions like i'll go listen to a goddamn a whole james brown album a lot of my stuff is influenced by james brown old 50 cent records um them two for sure i can definitely say play a big part on what i do and why i do it even with the little base 808 and all that type of stuff like havoc from mob deep his his beats the 2000 the 2004 2005 new york sound that dip said 50 even kanye making beats for jay and just blaze that whole little sound it's it's a sound they used to get and when as a kid i used to listen to it and he said just [ __ ] me up and it'd be like bro how do they do that they'd be like i know it's this old school song cause it's the same thing but it sounds like chick monkey and like a little faster and like that that kind of intrigued me but i still try to catch that same sound but this was just playing it so i'll play something just play it just like that as a regular thing just play it at that that turn it up speed it up you know i'm saying to give it that same kind of little sound without the 50 percent publishing being like a producer now like new producers like just it's like what's uh what's up um what's a way to like learn music there being a i mean anything is being a student like me as a producer like if i sat up under a car for two years i'll learn the engine you know i'm saying that is whatever is just really like like uh i used to think it was corny when people said it but like you know frequencies and studies of sound i just be like man put this [ __ ] in there right that's it hard but it's real and it and it um it comes with making your sound too cause i'm like everybody like it's not too much and just like the newest [ __ ] you make you can make what makes it new is you pulling from him like she's a combination of people of everywhere you pull from you pull it from him you pull it from him you put for him as an artist you put him for mass education to make this one person and everything you heard and make you you know what i'm saying like you can study his sound you just study his sound you know study his sound you don't study his sound you know took something from him you took something for him didn't took something for him the four count won't make no sense that's for real all day young like young [ __ ] they have to fight me oh there's that bulldog count that doo doo doo doo doo doo that's for real you know i'm saying like um um uh that's a couple of 50 50 records i heard back in the day but for the four counties for real for sure like saying type thing like just taking like every your theory but i put the pharrell four count with the little funk bass sound little james brown sound my little sound and then just this and it's making a whole new sound you know what i'm saying so everybody got their own you know saying crew create their own music theory by just what they listen to and who they study it's just all about what you study so how you feel about producers mainly like depending on loops now you know what i'm saying the way i feel about that i'm not about to use them because personally like this is not for creative purposes but business purposes like stuff i went through with different things it wasn't even a person with a loop it was a person that was right there next to me like and it was just like it was just funny business and but um i feel like the people who it's all a different game it's all about what game you play i don't play that game personally but there's people who play that game and play it well it makes leg makes worse less workload more opportunities more people um i'll give you example og parker that's my boy he um he can modernize a boy and make a hit record by himself but he also will take this from you know that's hard that's a life he touched you know what i'm saying like it might be nobody just anybody just about to be somebody in the email it might just be whatever that might give him the greater percentage because he made the play he's a bigger producer or whatever but that's a life he touched you know what i'm saying or or uh this producer or that a r or that engineer like playing that game you touch a lot of lives that's one thing i wrote is networking because that's what i took it as at first i'm like no loops and part of me is still like that just because like the sound i like to achieve and sometimes it always just don't match up with what like because i'm particular about i have a particular sound i'm not saying i just stuck on that but i'm saying i do i definitely have been working with other producers for show y'all finna i ain't feeling very spoiled nothing on that ain't been spoiling them but yeah i feel like everybody who use loops and like man if you can get a laptop man to throw a 808 and a hi-hat on it and make [ __ ] old town road i'm not saying that's kid not saying i never been in the studio to say kyo has music theory or not i don't i'm not saying that but damn it's real simple is it he found something great and he put something like how could you knock that yeah i'm saying like people get up there like i'm not gonna knock loose i'll say it all day i'll even troll and say i don't use loops but i don't knock people who do i really don't knock it like that that's like you'd be crazy too like it's a whole lifestyle i know a bunch of producers out here feeding their families how can i run them saying when i feed my family what you talking about yeah for the only people that cares like producers i just don't give a damn yeah yeah no no nobody cares nobody cares it produces care the community cares but the community cares it's because it's like and and it's not wrong for them people who do care they not wrong for karen either because this is all competition at the end of the day it's all competition everybody can act like we i'm in competition with myself me better than the better yesterday man get out of here man you like well well brother is there certain people who look at what what we're doing over there that's like damn that's hard i got to step up or looking at what bro doing over there is [ __ ] that [ __ ] you know i'm saying that's the people that's that's what make different to the people but man i'd be real bro i'm trying to bust everybody yes i keep it real i'm trying to bless everybody like not on something like i hate you i would well i would stop your back if i could it's just it's like the nba [ __ ] only one championship trophy we all can be rich we all made it we all then got past the level to where we we platinum we going to the concert we all know you rappers i want the trophy that's all that is i look at a lot of things in basketball terms too but i really like baldwin it's like we all want that trophy man and like i know i can't say you can't win the next year but i want mine i want my trophy yeah i want my [ __ ] now but i'm saying but that's how that's the only thing i really feel like far as loops though the community that's the only reason why they care this is because once you it don't matter what it is a loop or not it's hard like i don't know if weezy making them i don't know what he's doing i've never seen his process but boy when they come out the speakers what easy out of here bro like like would come out the speakers like cause a lot of it take a whole thing even choosing loops like even choosing loops like don't don't think that's the thing oh i got a loop and i just no i don't make it a hit record slowing it down to the thing or like that's why i said i don't know if wheezy makes his loops or not because or or whatever because it sounds so consistent yeah yeah yeah he's so consistent in his formula and what he do in his wave and his bounce is like i don't know i ain't sat there and watched him made it but he said his sound is so consistent and it's so he has a thought he has a plan like he can go through loops or he can play something and be like this me this i know this is this wheezy i know this is what people want to hear me for you know i'm saying he has this formula so it's just all it's all about finding whatever your formula is bro because like was i don't i don't know who is i don't know i don't watch people process all the time or sometimes you don't get to see they process all the time i don't know what some of these people were doing there but he come out on speakers boy like now i can figure out who get what later like i'm not i'm not a uh anti-loop person like on that level it's just what works for me that's what it's all about for us it's all about you know yeah it's all about work work for you in your process do you think it's best to be in the studio working with the artist and playing the keys in front of them or sending it through the email it depends on the artist all about what works for you that depends on artists too because most artists be on their studio time not too many artists just be geeked up to come watch you play the piano these days they get in there attention span yeah it'd be like they don't hear that that hard hey but run to the booth let me in and and even as a producer that's a great feeling too even even if with you wanting to um sit down and like nah cause a lot of these artists won't let you produce nowadays like they they just won't like you get to a level level you could like build a relationship with others like now you should say that they'll let you that's letting you producing and i get that but that's the happening that's not happening very much with a lot of what i'm saying like yeah that's true yeah i'm saying like you got an artist you could you know i know i know meg i can be like and it'll be like a you know what i'm saying but i pull up on quay [ __ ] you know then there's the crepe recording zelda punching the engine get going i'm like nah say this or something you know what i'm saying like there's something just like you know i'm saying something i'm saying just certain situations like you know what i'm saying they make it hit records like young boy i i was there for the session i was there and he didn't even want me to stay there for the before it to be recorded i dropped the beat off that was the first beat i played dropped the beat off and he was like yeah you know about process you know what i'm saying i sleep i pulled up on and wife and lucy had blue room didn't drop off mobis or something like that i'm saying but everybody processes their process um but nowadays we like it's like it's like the microwave generation everything's so fast instead of using the oven everybody use the microwave it's good it's a great feeling when you sat at home and you just in your head you and your little whatever you doing the vibe whatever you do on the vibe you come to the studio and you push play and you prepared and you made this folder of beats for this artist and you get in there and you playing it and it's like all right like pull it up pull it up pull that up pull it up like that's the best feeling pull it up oh now pull it out right now that's the best feeling but it's different you also did get a different sound when you get to get in there and sit with an artist and build a record like a record like i said it's a song right now i'm not going to disclose too much but um i've been working on this song it's like this is like an eight month song man like from the time the beat got to this then they got to the writer then they got to the singer then you know then they got then there's the feature then it's like it's another maybe another feature and it'll be like then i gotta go work that because i know that person and they know them they're just like then it's like nah we don't wanna and then this person this feature cut the verse you gotta cut it strong good because nigga's perfectionist is just like you know what i'm saying this but i like this process but this song you know i really like the process of this song because it it's it's different rather than like like i said kodak would be and he just threw it out like like that made it essentially just threw it out i didn't even know what's coming the label didn't even probably know what's coming you threw it out but it was like a street you know what i'm saying like it's great that's great for the energy you know i'm saying stuff like that but sitting down working it's all about the artist it's all about the artists sometimes you do you know what i'm saying like like the record i'm talking about is it's a r b record that's got the layers and you got the i'm saying different stuff like that yeah so let's backtrack so you're in atlanta you playing in the church i know on your last interview you said at some point you had dropped out of high school so like explain like what's the price of you dropping out of high school is you doing like beats full time or when i dropped out of high school um i i stopped going to school period because i was making beats and that's my god's honest truth like i'm not i was up to four or five in the morning and i'm like waking up thirty seven o'clock to catch me damn school bus i just wasn't you know what i'm saying just i used to fake like i was waking up i used to cat my brother my soul my older sister is weird because just to get off copy a little bit she used to tell like we were cuz we had a no telling policy but when it came to me in schools i don't know why she telling us to typical but um i would literally be making beats and i just be whamming out like my mom would leave before everybody she'll get home after everybody too cause you know she worked but i'll just be home and i would really be home you know i had i had a kid i found out 12th grade year you know me saying my little junior little tj um he came about and he was just like i was so far behind as a 12th grader i had the credits of a tenth and a half grader yeah and like my senior year going into my last semester i was in my body was there like i was as a senior in the time i spent there but my credits was the tenth and half greater and they told me yeah you're gonna have to go to this school and you got to do like you're gonna be a super senior type like super super senior or the out school like oh that type of thing or get your ged so i took the ged route you know um and the one thing reason i took the ged route was because i also realized you can get in the sae the institute and i'm like it's about music what if i want to go on school and learn about moore's george washington and symmetrics and algebra and quantities of the quantum and all right little just you know what i'm saying just i want to just lock in on what i did but even with um sae i skipped out on that i got that computer so they give you complies they give you a computer i got pro tools on this you know what i'm saying like i was with um i was running with travis porter back in the day strapping um uh brs cash the throat baby yeah yeah we was he was he's him and strapped the food from travis porter hey first cousins like that literally first cousin so me and cass was making music magic music and travis porter hit him and i'll be over there with them and i'd be over there and street is x stuff like that so they would literally start strapping my manager they were comparing me from school like at sae and then people at school be like and i'm playing and i'm playing songs i got with them and then you know like hey this sounds good you already doing i'm like yeah it do sound good don't it and i just i just took it i'm like i don't need this school especially when i'm looking at the people that they had working for them straight exactly working it was just good knowledgeable people who knew the work they engineers they knew the word fki he was a first producer and blew up made all their hit records even though school [ __ ] do the work he just had sauce you know i'm saying just knew it was hot sauce and he was smart so who was the first like local those were the first local artists she was working with in atlanta my first like first artist that i'm uh you know you got your neighborhood you got your neighborhood you know your friends you know stuff like that people you make your stuff within high school but people that had any type of um yeah it was it was it was i remember me and cash like we had a whole tape yeah we still we still got this i still we still got in the email that's a whole oh 20 songs but we was in porterhouse just recording he was always trying to get on back then we're just working yeah then yeah brs cash to travis porter i could say like the first it's like at least you know what i'm saying like [ __ ] got something going on but try to support it for sure so like networking and like brandon was like what would you doing to like network like get around the city and like you know i'm saying send out beats like what was you doing um you got to realize when you get at the point i don't know how people if y'all really remember the travis porter days and how big they was not for sure i was i was a young [ __ ] crazy like and they but within all that their label slash management is building a whole brand street designs they build a whole brand they're building a culture they're doing a christmas concert they uh they signed two chains i remember when travis porter was the main actor the christian concert then it became too changed when you know just you know the attention [ __ ] you know shifted from the fans but i won't help man i was just gonna rich kids and not cherish people no no that's that's still that's still that's still this you know what i'm saying that's still because cause schooly over there street attacks now you know i'm saying like it's you know i'm saying it's all a little you know what i'm saying it's all little things so and that whole little thing dj issa posted cash's first mixtape all right he hosted the tape issa it was issa dj iceberg i think they'd be tiny but um they hosted the tape and you know to tell you we came out you just the tape you know you know we working we trying to you know keep working more go work the clubs go whatever do we my manager was his manager same time you know saying my advantage is putting a little money behind him but um fast forward years later they did they it's really exhausting to bring your own beat thing and they had me come out they put me on the flyer and all that posted by dj issa ain't person who owns the cash tape four years ago right i go to make this quick cause i tell the story i always tell the story but um go to the thing play my little records i got i had little deja lo songs it was nothing it was on release music i was like maybe one song guy i had some little unreleased days loaf stuff cool america stuff like that and but i was leaving i was like hey man i'm trying to get the change bruh cause at this time four years later said his two chains like dj torn everywhere with him dj last three four albums he was like all right i'm gonna keep up on that long story short walk me in oh train trying probably trying to get to play beats he recorded on one left like nine beats he recorded on more once he recorded on and a couple other songs he made with other producers he played for drake and jerry said i want to get on that one that's a big amount came out first record that's my first song like my first paperwork sit check you changing my first song then you just went slap after that yeah i was like what y'all gave me drake he only got a rap on them once again he gonna rap on some more soon but ain't gonna rap no more like once you get that eye that's the thing about drake he's so big you get the eye as long as you're good enough as long as you as long as you're good and as long as you let town like you got talent and you could just stand next to him for anything and not just a song i met jo i met him i shook his hand he was a came to obsessions for the summer 16 tour future shout out a.g and t-money because they they got me close to him and i still don't even get no record like other records i just got to shake his hand and be like bro i made big amount [ __ ] like [ __ ] with me out there he gave me his child's number and [ __ ] like that but you know what i'm saying he was able to if she is right me so i know you say you were mad because it ain't no hook on it i was mad as [ __ ] man i went to i went to tech i wouldn't take that two chains in advantage i was like y'all you know i don't think you need a hook because they only said i got a big amount once in the beginning of the verse it was just like yeah we gonna see we gonna see i came back two weeks later yeah tit changed tit don't want he said it was cool like it is man he's just gonna leave it like it is and leave it raw y'all went and got drake and didn't get no hook it pissed me off hey look i'm talking about no lie no lie i was waiting on one oh wait no no i need that like yeah but it was so raw and they both just went so crazy it just still did what he did it just just blew it just it just was it just was what it was it was just organic and it's like that was a humbling moment too because i just knew it was just gonna be like a um i ain't want it to be a um i love this song too don't don't get it [ __ ] up but uh that hundred wrestles not the rapper that song was so [ __ ] great to me but it was like it was two changing drake and future but it still got played by the wayside a little bit still guys playing like see but it's politics i ain't really you know i wasn't up bad on it back then that's dj esko with the label giving esco to push the record and whatever but this is two changing dev jam man drake to dev jam is not going to let their commodity have a drake song with it just them and not let it go about waste i didn't know all that back then like they gonna they gonna make sure that go they're gonna make sure it is marketed in the right way singing type thing so do you think that's one of those situations where it's like you you in the process of making the music and you've been hearing it for a long time you're like damn like i don't think it's good enough but actually it is your family you just been hearing it i i can't say you know i never had that it don't sound good enough thing i always just you know you're always pushing the envelope but i'm always just pushing the envelope of what i hear or what i think could be better or what could be the biggest thing possible right or wrong right or wrong it's just i'm always just pushing like just like i was like how i got a lot of audacity that's the only way i'm way i'm here today like i had a lot of audacity to ask or push or be like man you don't think because it's like the end of the day it's like maybe i should have but a lot more because this would have shut up like two chains wrapped on it right drake is on it i bet it's audacity you know i think that's why i'm here you know what i'm saying audacity a [ __ ] but yeah i i i wanted hook i i wouldn't change it now if i could but back then i did michelle so your first major placement was two chainz and drake so did you have a manager at the time yeah when did you like get a manager i had a manager um since i like since i was 19. like since i was 19 from the whole situation where this cat was managing he was managing the same artist then he ended up managing the cash dude too so you became my manager that way was he like helping you gain placement so i was really just handing in the business side um i always did everything on my own i'll be rare with you like it was it was everything on my own but the road that was played in the road that my manager played was needed so i still paid it and treated as such like not to take nothing away from anybody but um i get up here confidently and say um not too many people that say i got him this like like like piece to to to to do but i don't have no manager now yeah right now i feel that anything cool when i got eggs and they go like no it wasn't it isn't even that it get a little more you know everything you know you know industry stuff you gotta go but it was just like um i'm still gonna speak him in in the best light but that i can i'm saying like because he did he did what he did what he did so you got a new manager now you're still just moving and then you're like it's me it's all me it's it always been me it's it's just when when we parted ways it just was like and we never even had a contract it was all like it's my boy like when that check came with me a lot of people tried to ask you out too like like a lot of people trying to like try to like yeah yeah it's cool your boy but it's time to ah it's trying to level up here you know what i'm saying a lot of people did that and i and i ain't let that happen you know what i'm saying like i ain't like to happen at all i stood i stayed 10 toes down on what we agreed on from when i was 19. so during the two chance placement was he involved in that process yeah that just we just recently parted ways this this this this um this year that was this year big amount came out 2016. so you could say like almost four or five years later so during big amount like explain that's your first major placement explain like the process of how the paperwork and the business go all the way to getting paid like what's that like when it first came out it was a mixtape break it was on the mixtape damn days were different yeah it was i caught the very last i'm when i say four or five months of me a lot of mixtape [ __ ] like i caught the last little wave of that [ __ ] but um they they they pay you like labels pay you mixtape prices when it's a mixtape they pay you mixtape prices but they want to pay you something to have something locked in you know what i'm saying but back in the days when you had mixtape record like that was just so big and it just blew up and it was just so big they had no choice but to monetize it make it a single so they paid me i'm not gonna disclose with whom i'm saying i don't want nobody to feel like i'm trying to buy what i was you know i'm saying i don't want nobody to feel the way you know but what they paid me this when it came out as a mixtape but then when it came out of the album it was like we had another negotiation it came out i got paid twice it was it was my first record so i didn't care i wanted my [ __ ] to be out like it was something about well the advance and i'm like put this [ __ ] out you know i'm saying like i need something like i wouldn't care about no advances or nothing like that he'd be honest for real but um yeah paperwork there was no sample i made i made the beat all by myself it was no there's no sample i uh i gave issa publishing i'm like five percent just just putting that together publishing the royalties it changed my life like yeah yeah you get to eat off that so there's been times where like you got paid after the record drop all the [ __ ] time talk about that i feel like young kids like now they feel like i think they're in this like they think like oh i ain't get paid yet record drop i'm finna you know saying expose them on instagram and [ __ ] like just show the process like now no no no don't do that don't do that don't don't look like y'all young boys man y'all don't i it's a game it's all the game cuz i i get the psyche of it like i did this record i'm not gonna even say the label i did a record i seen they seen the feature they got a feature pay the features i think it's pretty big so you got my [ __ ] at least got it probably anywhere from 50 to 100 just for the feature then i'm on set i went to the video struggle to every video shoot i can just to meet people directors everything i can hey it's a 1.1 million dollar set these [ __ ] got paid yesterday hey look i only asked for a 20 on it like at least i was i was showing love because i know the a and r i only asked for 20 on the beat like how everybody get paid yesterday like like i'm here and everybody sitting there paying like a nice set great record you made the record i'm like yeah but it's like it's almost to the point where it's bad but i got used to it to where it's like if a record come out and i know i got a anywhere from 15 to a 30 000 advance like on it i'm not counting it for right now i'm counting it my lawyer beats too shout out jacqueline smith too um you know when she got you know there's a lot of checks she got to go you know what i'm saying a lot of things she got to go handle so it was like i know she gonna get it done in a timely manner and if it's not getting done in a timely manner she gonna she's gonna she she's gonna kick ass maybe like checking in just checking in yeah no no no my lawyer kick ass all right what's up she's a she's a nice extension of me because i'm a real like i'm short like with all that little weird [ __ ] she just like says everything i would say like in a nice illegal legal way they should communicate like on the morning yeah but it'd be it's bs stern though you be needing a starring lawyer you don't need no so backtrack a little bit you're in atlanta you're working so like what advice you can get producers now like let's say producers who just moved to atlanta this year what can they do networking wise to to you know saying get placements first of all give away free [ __ ] oh let's talk about that though some people don't really like free [ __ ] we got a lot of input about that giveaway free [ __ ] why the [ __ ] is you selling but people go to mcdonald's and be in a change drawer and this is mcdonald's scraping up quarters to pay for a sandwich a sandwich sandwiches kids in the back some mama's made back in the day my mom used to make us share a drink yeah i passed them a [ __ ] round like one big ass fried two if it was a good if we know we was having mommy was up we all got a milkshake type [ __ ] you know what i'm saying but folks is going through that they don't [ __ ] know you [ __ ] i could download the [ __ ] on [ __ ] youtube i can go download a hit record on youtube hence old town road the biggest selling song ever of all time ever was a man sitting in his goddamn room at his house and he downloaded the beat on the internet and he made a song and it went the craziest song i'm talking about so more than a michael jackson song so more than a prank song why the [ __ ] would i give you 400 right now i don't know you [ __ ] he'll be good i don't know you i don't know you i don't know you now some people play that game and you respect them they'll just love your craft enough to be like hey bro like nah this [ __ ] hard i want to pay i want to pay some [ __ ] somebody just like investors to where they really want to like yeah you know what i'm saying like and i want to appreciate bro even if they actually have a discount i [ __ ] with [ __ ] like that too like but man let that [ __ ] go bro like back in the day my my uncles like because they they come from a back in the day standpoint like they want no mixtapes it wasn't that they artists got on from rapping on this like talent show [ __ ] and then [ __ ] went crazy he was like a little young [ __ ] he went crazy and he got a deal like you know my thing in a [ __ ] record real record deal in the [ __ ] time with y'all nowadays like you know i'm saying type [ __ ] you know i'm saying like that's the old back in the day [ __ ] and ain't just wasn't just into just giving beats too it was different it wasn't like like it was but so they used to have me tag beats all the way through to her [ __ ] couldn't rap in it and it makes sense like you could hear it but it'd be like whatever the tag was you know what i'm saying it's a weird apple candy pull up the other [ __ ] who don't have who i can [ __ ] rap on right now they push it up right now you know i'm saying type things so i never went to travis porter and was like bro i needed y'all put that [ __ ] out bankroll no i won't bang roll rp battle he's winning like his first he was young freshman i still had when i bought song with him especially when he working common goal to get somewhere like a common goal i doubt when they was in there like in the trenches in the trenches london was telling thug but i need thousands for that beat now you don't say it ain't it like i'm saying like [ __ ] up you know [ __ ] [ __ ] he probably thought probably never get money just throwing the money anyway but i doubt he was just i need this i need this i need it i need it you know what i'm saying tell us all about building building building like building your brand people don't know building your brand is what people have people pay for your beats i can go make a post right now i remember back in the day i used to be for fifty dollars a hundred dollars two hundred dollars [ __ ] like that and i'm in high school coming up to like my college and i had kids starting kids and [ __ ] like well hell yeah you get this beat for 150 dollars you know what i'm saying like but it's gonna go babe for diapers wi-fi something about this [ __ ] that little one beat i'm sorry look at it but now i can get on the instagram and say blend beats go for the low today y'all get at me and make like five six seven thousand dollars like in a day i don't like doing that because i don't know me that cheap in your brand but like damn if i just ever have to [ __ ] pay the rent yeah i'm saying like post that's not only because of the brand that's only because i gave away so many beats that buddha bless this beat is there it's there it's there it's there it's there it was part of this wedding with that chris brown [ __ ] that i got played at somebody's wedding this guy played in somebody trapped just got played at somebody wedding this guy played at somebody family union this got played there too where the brand is like i'm paying to be a part of that you know what i'm saying like a lot of [ __ ] got 80s that knock [ __ ] you think you only make a whammer [ __ ] trunk no you know what i'm saying like it's about the brand about it's the brand that comes with that so i'm asked i'm gonna ask you for the young producer so i feel like it's just a lot of artists out here to where they can't really size up opportunities so it might be an artist who's kind of big but it's a big piece of intellectual property and they'll try to charge them but then it's somebody who they know on the streets they'll give it to for free instead of doing the opposite so how do you like look at the artist and know like oh yeah let me just give him something for free like let's not worry about the money right now if you're not worried about the money you're not worried about the money you don't start worrying about it because who's in front of you like i hate [ __ ] who do that like the man the lawn man who come cut my grass because i go through the handy app this thing called handy at [ __ ] be having a whole thing he get there and see the cars in the driveway i come out there talking to him like with this [ __ ] on cause i'm about to go somewhere yeah man um job a little more bigger than i thought you know what i'm saying he started saying your price up on you because you know you feel like you get up there you know what i'm saying it's not about who in front of you it's about your goal and your plan is your thing is to expand my brand it ain't like the person who's in front of me and most likely most more times than not the person who do got the money who could pay you something right now has more of anything like something to give you like an artist like let's say an artist a dude in the street who he's got scam money he's cool you know all that scam money or something maybe up and down on they'd be down from a thousand dollars to anywhere from fifteen thousand dollars like there's some scammers that's what i call these little neighbors everyone from 2015 that's where they be playing what they check through he got something to give you but this artist over here he signed to such as he personally personally personally has nothing to give you because everything he gonna give you would come through the label will come through his budget meanwhile you can go get 10 bands from one beat from this [ __ ] you just got 10 bands and this [ __ ] ain't this [ __ ] with your beat but went to the club smoke to it but you got paid twenty five three thousand dollars twenty five hundred three thousand dollars from these artists that who's on this label who has other axon that makes you look more as a credible producer you know what i'm saying so it's all about what game you want to play like just getting in the right doing the right [ __ ] like you can make beats it ain't all about money or who started to get in front of you is like what's your agenda producers being patient your family like yeah i'm saying like instead of looking at this [ __ ] like okay we playing seeds i just feel like you know what i'm saying this day and age that [ __ ] man i know [ __ ] don't want to hear that [ __ ] i know i look man and that's why i'm glad i came up on the old school tutelage like or tutoring like dave was like my uncles was like yo these are just the stories they used to give me they like krs one stories and yo like what was in it was in the thing of krs one took the mic from [ __ ] like get off the stage like they used to give me like them like them stories and different [ __ ] and like they used to tell me they should say 10 years like when i was a kid they automatically planted 10 years in my head like man it takes like 10 years man my [ __ ] like [ __ ] like put their blood sweat into like like 10 years or something ain't even stealing god they break but they always put 10 years in my head like no matter what it was and i can say i officially like started when i was starting making beats i have picked up on the beats like 8th grade are you in may great like 13 14. like 13 14 started it i can't i can say i i never stop like once i started that day i never stopped but i used to hop on the train i used to hop on the train take it to fort mcpherson they stayed in camp creek i was on the east side i used to take the train every weekend over there just getting that you know what i'm saying that knowledge about [ __ ] and they just like man 10 years you say sowing seeds you could say just doing your time you could say whatever like perfecting your craft but it took me eight from what i thought if i started from 16 where i felt like i'm ready whether i was or not at 16 i felt like i was ready i was that [ __ ] in my high school i used to have all the girls and my partners in the basement i used to put up christmas lights at the studio lights like i was there [ __ ] in like at least school from the music [ __ ] i felt like i was ready but big amount didn't come to last 24. i fought with it you know [ __ ] be like talking about the ten thousand hours you know you obviously put that in eight times man what that should be like you don't want to hear that bro i i did not want to hear that i was having kids i was on money i wasn't in school i look like a failure of my mom the thing is is all my brothers and sisters graduate high school like i'm the only one who like is just like i don't come from no delinquent ass family like my mom made six figures my aunt made six figures she's a bone marrow transplant coordinator she's a lawyer like like they ain't taking none of your [ __ ] like they like nah you you and my mom used to be like i'll pray for you i used to come in the house you know i swear the guys that come in the house eyes ready for geek you know smoking this [ __ ] i pray for you y'all be like damn like yo i'm not doing that i'm not just like sniffing and cooking but she ain't see you know she's a christian woman she ain't really see the vision yet she see now she see them advanced yeah nah i bought my mama car and i pay her mortgage every month we come out my automatic payments what was your second place it's kind of two it's kind of like it's vague because it's like sonically like what came out i guess it was counting by it was another two change song papa brother bandstar account putting everything on account that was the song that camera it was another mixtape though they didn't treat it because a big amount got treated as a single they they already but it was another mixtape so it was back to that mixtape you know probably whatever he did a video to it though you know the mannequin challenge [ __ ] the managing challenge you know what i'm saying right but like call casting by the migos how do you get lightning with amigos explain that um relationship when big amount came out it was a big record you know what i'm saying one thing i like one thing i noticed about like getting a good trap beat placed other trap rappers or that sound they gon they they they click to them like that hop on the way we're going yeah like i like that i like whatever i just heard come out the speakers i like takeoff follow me on twitter and it was so random like i ain't even and um i was taught i was uh i know one of the partners who i try to get them some beats through and i was like hey man y'all got them beats i gay i said you got them beats i gave such a such he was like hell nah hey damn he said send it to gave me an email like three weeks later boys was in i think they was in lobos africa nigeria or something like that lagos i think lobos i said lobos that's the that's lebron liquor lagos that's lebron liquor lobo logo they they shot the video out there but at the baton bougie they number one biggest honor next song to come out it was my record call casting second record leading up then then um t-shirt came but call cassie came out they shot that video in africa everything history there's like 100 million views on youtube right now like then ever since then even within like me and quavo just locked in you just locked in after that so let's talk about uh modern slavery like but man you start mixing that trap with that soul [Music] kanye west it's a it's a place musically i wanted kanye west to go because he's like one of my favorite dudes like it's the place i wanted him to go like he eat music he doing donut don't get [ __ ] up he's kind of like you know saying but like he and it because he's at the point where he's like i'm not doing anything to satisfy the vibe right now i'm not about satisfying the vibe i want to make mix red with the yellow and make these new colors and [ __ ] that's what the type says hey you know i'm saying but it was a time and period where he still had his sound but he had radio you know what i'm saying like when his stuff came on it was a chicken voice or a sped up sample or something like this slowed down or every the little rolls he used to use or ah like little [ __ ] he used to use it was still in but it was still radio so he made the looter stand up uh made the camera and down like this records he make he should call uh it was still radio you know what i'm saying to where jesus and all this other stuff is like really got away from it but that's just i just wanted to um musically i just wanted to see that element still be there but incorporated into trap but like heavy though like if y'all really realize um it's oldest reading just like the oldies the oldest in the oldest record with jay-z and kanye so all these readings we both sample otis i sample otis because of kanye it's kind of formatted the same as otis amazing easy uh easy other this is samples whatever the sample ain't split up slow down it's just whatever it is it's the sample same thing it's early in the morning it's the same thing then i go to bam burn bam bing bang at drums all these damn chain honestly you know what i'm saying is trap is something that younger kids can feel instead of can't go i invented that you know what i'm saying like that's not everything like the younger kids will just hear and just be like just naturally like we'll just be in the club we don't just be riding to and listen to like something like an older age group i just tried to build that bridge that's really what that what that is for me so you be sampling like records a lot the records that i really love or records that i got really hearing is to be like i had to do that so like when you're sampling like what's your process when you chopping or looking for something it's certain it's i listen to samples that still defy my sound like it even so much i look for it's like you just am not so consciously what sounds like me it's just like it's there it's like what you hear just just strike you and it's just like certain things that might happen in it whether it be the bass flip like that or the piano did that or it's just like yeah that's hard you know what i'm saying like and in certain songs and certain things it's just like you just gotta like tap into like or moments that like um the needed record with migos and young boy that's a 50 cent record told y'all 50 my favorite rapper dog you know what i'm saying and for me that was a way for me to goddamn get at one get a credit with my favorite rapper because like nothing today we all on the same paper right now when i go to my bmi i see curtis jackson in my [ __ ] two you know what i'm saying like this is that's hard to me kanye too because kanye did something on the bad uh the bbo uh bad [ __ ] only beat he gotta get credit on that record but it was me taking a record i loved as a kid and it wasn't even like a big 50 cent cut it was the album cut you know i'm saying one like a single net and i took that and i put migos and yum like it's like bridging that gap literally bridging the gap like i took 50 cent record this new york old ass [ __ ] and got young boy young young ass and amigos they're kind of like starting to get into that older you don't say like more the little the young vets type thing that's a whole that's a bridge right there from him to me goes to young boy that's a whole bridge of people so that's what i'm saying that's that's really what i try to do with my music and my sound like bring that old sounding but a lot of times i won't i don't even sample no more it's like you can listen to use the sonics and the mechanics what's going on to a song like an old school song and be like they use flutes they use a bass guitar they use this they use that they use that they had the string swell instead of just trigger like it's just a little [ __ ] you can really like you really pay attention to the mechanics of like sound and what the hell coming out the speakers okay they had three horn players but they panned two of them this way and one of them just sat over everybody's like little [ __ ] like that for a big game so when you sampling like what them splits look like though you don't care you know i always look for you get hit see but like when needed 50 in them tank came and took 50. you know saying so it was it was just me and the boys it was just me the boys amigos and um nyb that's five people to split fifty percent and the whole my whole side the whole 15 hours ago fifty percent there over there they ate that [ __ ] they ate it like they ate it so it was really almost nothing left on the record for me but then they all came together they gave me five percent on the record this is needed right i'm hot five seven i i'm not like and it is like all it's like because i went through a lot to put it together like just like like not 450 but the 50 thing you know i'm like man so i reach out to high tech he's the original producer he made a lot of 750 he made best friend for 50. he made the intro on um [Music] g unit the records he made this song he got a high tech got a lot of couple 50 records d blocking those couple words too i was like man i've reached his instagram i was like yo for one producer and another man i got a got some money coming your way it's gonna be a big record it's amigos you know i told them what the record was and man it's gonna be big so i gave my number he hit me they already reached him out to him for sample clearance and he was like yo i heard about that you the producer and i'm like yeah this isn't that with a blessing be first of all i want to say respect to you because you're a legend like bro like you got you got some [ __ ] like respect to you bro but boy ain't gonna eat nothing on this [ __ ] i don't put the whole [ __ ] together you gotta [ __ ] with me bro sometimes somebody gotta get in somebody somebody gotta put some strings or something but high tech you know brother mother's big brother did he definitely did right by his money he got a lot of investments and [ __ ] going on too he wasn't no crabby with him he was like nah i respect the call i just can't believe i'm getting sampled now he was so like damn you know he got kids that listen to young boy amigos so that's like you know they you live in the back 50s you know how they you know i'm saying that probably i can't say exactly but he just died i'm just talking to him he's like y'all my kids they you know say my son's like yo daddy young boy and he goes like you know what i'm saying that was good too like i got the you know like touching that way but yeah he definitely came up off a nice percentage to make sure i was i was alive and you know i'm saying and and to make sure i was you know happy and like i'm really grateful with it you know i'm saying like really like shout out high tech man because i don't know too many people he did it with such ease like nah man you got that man you got to feel it i can't yo i just i salute you and you calling me too man he just like that i called him you know what i'm saying like it just like that i called him so i know like recently like oh i was in a situation where another producer used a sample but what they was asking for to clear it was too much so the label had me come in and like remake it so they could you know saying get it for a lower amount so like i know you probably been in that situation before so like what would you do would you like respectfully like just keep what you did or would you remake it for a lower you know what i'm saying the needed record i sampled nothing of the master i played everything over it was just so much alike it was like nice it kind of wasn't it was really like i didn't try to change it i changed the sounds of it like the bass line was different they used more of like a organ bass i used like a more funky bass i'm folks still to because it was so much likeness but if you can save money if it was like a situation where like i had a shy day record i did a record with wife and lucci great [ __ ] record he ain't having it i learned that the hard way but i was counting my child i got wi-fi all right dude they seem like it's hard i don't care if it's interpolation no like interpolation i still have to clear it no shot day no like she's you don't think drake would have did that by now oh like he got shot he tatted it don't he yeah we got somebody one of the girls you got that i think i should have tatted on his leg up some weird i don't know you don't think he would have did that by now this shot day man drake would have been pulled dumb screens and she got great music and drake out of ear for like he gotta eat with it man and the type was things have been so crazy and hectic i should have gotten back by now go listen to that song brandon tell me that's not a shot they reckon if the spotlight makes you nervous go listen to that i'm telling you that's a shot a record i said if she's saying that same [ __ ] you'd be like that's a shot a record this is like like her mechanic so he go pull i pull from a lot of from her mechanics and [ __ ] she do too like this is all about your mechanics his sound she plays a great sound on a part on herself at least i feel like i may be wrong but i do i know you said superstars along with migos was on maddie so like what's that like like it's like different contracts or how you get paid from stuff like that you know you thought it'd be a little different when you get on video again you know what yeah they get a license fee it's like we have license fees like a license to use the record you negotiate the highest thing possibly you can for that licensing of that time period of you know i'm saying that type of thing and they can use it like licensing to be like we can use it for these many year or disorders or a lifetime it just be like would they i don't know but you just think every time a city flops a cell shelf that's five cents in your pocket or some [ __ ] like that that's the best way i could put it but at the end of the day for the culture man and what what i'm in the bus shop and my song on and superstars out what are you talking about you talking [ __ ] like you playing madness yeah boy what man the biggest [ __ ] talking to you about every minute especially in that 2k and and and need it on 2k too or 2k 22. he's on the new next he's on the new um 2k coming up well like have you ever like what somebody else while your song player wait what let us i put it on as a victory song i don't give a damn what come on the tv screen i got a whole stereo system lined up right when i whip your ass i think i should eat it up for you with my money at two brushes come on don't be ass bad now here either so i've been posting a lot i'm producing on instagram page about like beat maker versus a producer a lot of people say breaks the same term a lot of people say man there's a difference between beat mega producers like what's your input no no one is greater than the other let me give you my example the reason why and please post this no no it's like snippet this [ __ ] there's a bunch of producers who don't do [ __ ] to records a bunch of people who putting records just putting workers together not tinkling no keys not doing no hi-hats just literally this writer i hear this writer hey this okay you were like a visionary really they producing but visionary how does he get to go stump or say i'm a producer and you're a beat maker like i'm a producer i'm a producer i produce how does he get to go stump on the [ __ ] who made the record that he went to go get other [ __ ] home you don't get to do that i don't give a [ __ ] if i sat in my basement with a quiet [ __ ] just bug in the corner dirty [ __ ] ain't that i don't care what it was and you just this rich [ __ ] you take my beat and go get it to the [ __ ] with i oh i produced the record i did you just made the beat well you don't shut the hell up then why don't you go back to beat and don't get me wrong i do both i can do both i give salsa i give sauce a lot not even just on some i'm a credited writer i get sauce a lot and i have my own artist i make my own songs i don't want to be a rapper though this is not my cup i just don't want to be do what they do i don't get off on it but like how could this person like take this man beat and say or not even this person because that's how i say they're looking they're not even looking at it they say he doing his due diligence he's doing he's doing legends how can an outside party person come in and look at him as greater value as him because of what he did and what he did to play on a record and this [ __ ] didn't do [ __ ] but all he had to do was stay in his crib and call [ __ ] he knew y'all gonna be great i know you i know you yeah y'all gonna be great y'all gonna be great cause that makes him that makes him greater than this person who just came with this melody out his [ __ ] fingers this was coming out his pores then when he just sitting there making it all started with him that's how i get it [ __ ] up on my laptop he's on the laptop man it's start right there bruh like i'm not producing like so you not rapping if i'm not producing you're not rapping if you're not rapping when i'm not there now how does that sound i'm not producing because i'm not there to tell you okay so that means you're not rapping right because i'm not there to produce you that makes no sense you go do what you do and be great and you go do what you do and be great straight up like who was it say if i was to get in there i don't got in the studio so many times with [ __ ] and then they gonna say [ __ ] i would never say i got in the studio young boy one tony [ __ ] said it wasn't my song that [ __ ] said uh right time you look like a nighttime sewer damage tell that boy get piped down like what like like it's just like i wouldn't say no [ __ ] like that i wouldn't come to be like this the hook i would have came with a whole different thing like that boy said sewer damage that boyfriend get popped they talk about some guns you know you know this [ __ ] was just like i try to be a person that i don't always know everything like some producers come in and be like i know this some some artists need to be produced more than others but you like you can't always come in just like i know that sometimes i like to come in and be like like throw my hands up i'm not saying i don't want i want to be lazy i always got my [ __ ] i'm opinionated [ __ ] you ain't watching my instagram yet i got a lot of opinions but sometimes like especially with music it's just like this is the most opinionated thing ever there's nothing more opinionated than music you know what i'm saying so i like you just to say what he did on his record and what he did on his record like is producing is it not part of making the beat is not a part of producing two let me ask y'all that i noticed y'all interview but let me how y'all feel about it do you feel like producing or like making the beat is part of producing like say i'm a producer say say i say i'm a producer but i don't make i don't touch the beats i don't touch the computers and [ __ ] would you say i'm a real producer me personally that should have turned like i don't even [ __ ] like at the end of the day i just don't care about this [ __ ] like we all just got paid from it what come out them speakers yeah i mean i wouldn't i would just say put respect on both you know what i'm saying but i would say definitely there are some people that just play bigger roles and stuff as far as like being a visionary but i would just say put respect on both you femi but some producers don't really not i would say a lot of producers produce more on a brand level you find me more like they get into realms and they make more moves because they have a bigger brand so i'll just say put respect on both sides because you got to play the position somebody got to be in the room you know what i'm saying and let's get let's let's get this straight too like all my producers out here this one thing i really want to um i guess you say preach and teach a lot of stuff we heard back in the day don't folks were sampling every kanye west record was a simple everyone that's why i hate when [ __ ] be like oh bro you just use the loop but does it does it make it you better because you're sampling somebody who's not uh chaka khan what's coming out the speakers timberland that big pimpin ding ding i didn't know that was example all this everything i grew up loving man was a sample j the kids we gonna make it sample uh 50 cent many men was assembled i found that example of the day i was like everything i did them folks found a chop they won how i'm doing that's what makes me feel real good because i'm actually listening to like the records they did i'm just going around feeling around and learning my own little sauce with what they did too but really making it my own but the folks was chopping that [ __ ] up putting they the drums is will always to tell you what time it you in but music the drums a good melody is going to be another good melody whether you put it in 1960 1970 1980 1990 2000 a flute you could play a flute and it's going to be a great long as it's a good sounding it's in keys and varieties and sonics is right that's always gonna be it's always gonna be that good flute melody it's about how fast you speed it up and what type of drums you put to it you know what i'm saying you can play the same thing and you can put a dum dum dum africans coming or you could just put some traps on they'll be like are we in atlanta or you can speed it up a little bit and put that [ __ ] on like okay some d [ __ ] some detroit [ __ ] melody is always the same we could take the same i've seen two producers take the same loot and make two totally different beats or two different vibes of beasts you notice the the list and like the sound is the same but he sped it up because he made he from the d he made some type of and he slowed it down he kept that [ __ ] trunk because he from he was brought from memphis you know what i'm saying so [ __ ] all that [ __ ] man what's up come on what's coming out from speakers i was gonna say like do you think that's the ego thing for [ __ ] be worried about that like just always shaming each other um it's competition that's with everybody and that's another thing i want our producers to not can i cuss yeah it's not the thing i want us to [ __ ] up and shy away from bro like why are y'all bitching up at that [ __ ] like so [ __ ] got to say this like man just leave me alone i want to eat man this [ __ ] [ __ ] all that like it's a cup like like like like we all eating like i get it and i don't i don't want nobody to be like to starve i don't want anybody to start i don't want any of my like black brothers to starve but like [ __ ] came too long as a to where we all can just load up a laptop and be millionaires like that should trip me out when i be around parker and jew in london like we just four million there sitting there like laptops and keyboards that [ __ ] is a beautiful thing no matter how he got it done no matter how he got it done man i got a gun how you got it done that's beautiful by the end of the day shut the hell up bruh they're gonna have something to say they're gonna have something to say they process this is my process this that that that it's a competition everybody want to have the best way you don't think jeff bezos and bill gates is like looking across each other like they can support and family don't worry about nothing you don't think he looking across the other side of the world bill gates bought a bunch of farmland and he just bought them trains and [ __ ] from canada okay i said he trying to do his food supply mmm i see what he do like bro i'm telling you bro if you don't think that runs through the folks mine this is one show i watched it was called the man who built america savages rockefeller andrew carnegie uh uh uh uh henry ford uh uh jp morgan you know somebody else uh vanderbilt don't folk cutthroat they were all in their own field he did steal he did banking he did this but they all was trying to get they were always trying to be the they were trying to and they made america literally brother the man who built america literally now there's a [ __ ] up [ __ ] in the process you know [ __ ] you know like all those [ __ ] but folks built america just like in their own a little competition like and they own right just i feel like the same way with music like i ain't shopping iron bro like i like i i'm everybody motivated different too like i'm just motivated by like that was hard i don't have a number one billboard placement yet that motivated me i watched the last dance i actually think i was crazy until i watched the last dance michael jordan used to find [ __ ] like fine reason to hate the [ __ ] like you just stepped on the court you know and i took that personally you seen the memes like [ __ ] i just mean like you know what was just mean like you know he won mvp that year he deserved it but i took it personally like look like he's just like that competitive like he just throwed off but it's just something to keep you ticking like and i can't say everybody it's all really about what you keep you ticking but i just know what keep me ticking you know what i'm saying somebody say some funny [ __ ] to me somebody say something oh this [ __ ] did he think he did that or he ain't this this is now where this ain't dead be like all right i had somebody told me i'm not gonna say no names but before i blew up i had somebody tell me i needed to make beats different like the way i was making beats wasn't like man you need to go like go watch metro like the tempo and the sauce of the club like i'm like and it [ __ ] me up for a second like when you ain't got nothing and you broke and you like that [ __ ] you get real you be like know right like am i not having that sauce no that wasn't the case if everybody out there that was not the goddamn case because i tell you what the person who said it to me his artist wrapped on big amount and they wrapped on the claw cast both of my two first big records and they was made a year before those songs came out you bout timing and all that [ __ ] too those two songs those two songs i had artists out there i was developing i was building i was building them songs it was just they just had the label had it just on the lock stats on the driver or whatever [ __ ] start following the [ __ ] god damn that i'm like man i can't play nobody's hard platinum platinum grammy nominated coach ron was grammar nominated you know what i'm saying so that stuff like that is just like always put me back like yeah i'm gonna [ __ ] i remember [ __ ] said that so are you following trends or you going nah people following my channel y'all don't hear people y'all hear people doing that 808 base slide out i heard it yeah i'm saying like if i follow a trend it'd be an old one bringing that four account back sam like doing the old school sound like it'd be like an old one that i can be like i i took from this i don't like doing what people's doing now and that's why i felt like it did take so long for my sound to catch on because it'd be like it had to be a space for it and literally not a lot of producers too like it's a beat sending out computer right now it's just not the time and space and literal sonics of what's hot right now but six months from now it'd be like a lot of my placements i made a year ago even now a lot of songs i got now am i about to come out a lot of stuff y'all about to hear last year how you feel about producers like exactly cloning a beat like for example i love baby type beats i i i don't okay you say little babies like you talking about that the triplet sounds the triplet sound and they go from this [ __ ] there's nothing wrong with the people who like originate i'm saying like the people who straight copying it you know right right i was about to say because i'm like that [ __ ] hard i want to say that's a sound crazy like sexy chichi that's the sound they created too atl crazy yeah yeah but everybody duplicating it is that's how i feel it's how i feel with my sound everybody duplicating your sound it drives the sound now real quick let me say this it drowns the sound out until they hear you make it again that's why i was like you got to keep doing it like and i heard that from pierre and i want to interview he's saying like a lot of [ __ ] be you know dude but i'm an originator it's like you you you you know he's like you know a [ __ ] like who's on playboy cardi album because you know you can fit the vibe but when pierre should come on you'll be like i hear it hey whether his attack came on or not you like i hear it you know what i'm saying so like you just rely on that like yeah you my [ __ ] i sound dated like oh it's a little little sound a little happy sound with trap drums until he do it again and it's like yeah he's different when the guy doing it when the when he doing it is is the originator it's something you really can't explain like a lot of people did a lot of zaytoven [ __ ] a lot of they got records sounding like zaytoven and doing oh they're little using that little sound and [ __ ] yeah the 808 mafia south side of trent center hey wait my feeling boys they translated metro on them they they they transcended they they push sound like that's one thing i like about people who can push sound but find a middle ground for it to be like clubbing what we want but still pushing sound all right those [ __ ] was like they had to be like when you look at it it looked like a tetris game like looking on the free loop like they said they moved a midi [ __ ] you like what the hell that [ __ ] doing that's what i'm hearing like it's just like that sound that's challenging sound as it is and they'll have a straight some ghoulie ass sound it's a straight just one sound just but the high ascends don't like you know what i'm saying and that's they sound that's how they challenge sound like it's like crazy hi hat driven you know ate a way to be in that [ __ ] they should be i had my feet all them goddamn [ __ ] bros and [ __ ] don't [ __ ] be putting in there but it should be hard it sounds challenging like that [ __ ] hard what did i say producers do a lot like let's use the baby for example like the baby will drop the email or something somehow they get the email they send the exact opf type b you know what i'm saying and then you'll see that post on on the baby story like i'm getting tired of these type of beats i'm gonna put you in a scenario you headed to a session with a baby like what like what's your like what type of beats are you gonna play from it takes confidence to really do this but i'm always on it it used to not saying you used to [ __ ] me up but it wasn't my time it would be like you would kind of maybe think you suck but i'm always playing what i want you to be on i'ma let you tell me no first i'm gonna be like if it ain't going right then i'm gonna try to go cater i'm gonna try to call the cata just to get the check get the placement or where you want to call it but i'm always gonna want to hear what i want to hear you just like i heard this whether you agree with it or not i'm always played at first but now it's like like with meg we running right through her album um me o.j parker and joo we want to work on her album and we listen i was just i just sat back and listened to all the records she had she has no record that fits this i'm not gonna say what it is that's why they're gonna come out she has no record that fits this let me go do this and the thing is is most of the time the artist don't even want to do that you got to sell them on it but as a reducer like being a salesman is a lot people underestimate that you get on the beat you in the studio you [ __ ] 78 drink popping a little bird got a little hoe whatever the [ __ ] they got going on and you come in there and push and play [ __ ] like it ain't even like you ain't seen the vibe of the room like [ __ ] like like that's why a lot of producers do good not pulling up that's why i know that's why a lot of deuces do great not pulling up it's like okay let me hear this come out this speaker sonically like this [ __ ] dark did it or not but meanwhile [ __ ] pulling up and you just looking like you're not mad you're not even you know you don't got to be like a hood [ __ ] to make a dark beat but you won't even ought to sell it to him this is a cell like bruh there's a lot of like boy like i don't know what you like hit maker that boy be selling that [ __ ] man i'm not even saying it's not nothing good this i'm not saying there's nothing good to buy i'm just saying that boy be in there sexy [ __ ] you don't batman you gotta go lay that track down right now you know what i'm saying like we laying that [ __ ] down right now so what uh you know [ __ ] gonna trick the art is like yeah i do need to lay that down not even so much you tricked them the artist didn't know they need to lay it down but they like nah you they [ __ ] it down and this is like yeah i i do know if i could cut it and it's a hit [ __ ] meanwhile they wanna did that they just would have put up some same little piano crappy whatever the [ __ ] they doing you know what i'm saying like man this is this is a salesmanship at this point people lose that people don't understand that art that's producing too god damn [ __ ] [ __ ] what you heard i don't care if you did hair on the beat i had to make the [ __ ] rap on it and i'm not just [ __ ] daddy i had to sell like [ __ ] could come in and hum and just be and make a [ __ ] feel like they supposed to be on it i'm telling you bruh it's a salesmanship like like you could your [ __ ] could be or it could be if something is really light it could be the same beat two three or they could be like this or [ __ ] be like this you know what i'm saying like ah it's the same tempo as double timing some [ __ ] like might not understand that i'll get a new york station [ __ ] be on this no cat just yeah yeah yeah it'd be the same tempo or beat though you know what i'm saying just like selling it knowing where you at knowing the climate you in knowing the artists you're dealing with let's rest it real right you dropped some sauces down crazy because i definitely been in a situation where i was at main street and i played a beat for this song already it was like next next next and i ain't really know like when i go into the room like i feed out the vibe but i ain't really like a targeted [ __ ] you feel me so i just sit there i'm just you know i'm saying i'm not in my head just like how you would breathe same as that [ __ ] just like how you was doing bro you need to be like next pick a couple yeah ain't got the one he ain't picked i played it but i went to that session when it was like two weeks later i went to the session my manager had to be in the room and he played the same a zach beat he was like yeah bro i could hear this hook he was like load that [ __ ] up you know what's alright [ __ ] i played that too easy yeah think about it you just said that [ __ ] though like it really beat anything when you come up when you be in the game so long or get some years under you you get a routine i have a routine when i have a routine i come in you know she ain't scared to scale a room but you know you make sure you it's just this is little confident things whether you're good at beating these little confident people things like look at it like look at my [ __ ] face like bro like whatever you saying look at them dead in their face type [ __ ] like like little [ __ ] like that but i start the same thing we got to play i play some [ __ ] play i'll stop it like and just aim for interaction i'll do the same thing every time i be like hey whatever you lock in don't just tell me i'm putting my [ __ ] to the side for you like all right it i say it's the same thing it's like a full formula i say the same thing every time so they go through it they go through it you'll be going through beats and sometimes they don't even be locked in they peoples do but i say i'm telling you there's a little psyche to everything you got to pick up on everything you'll play something the [ __ ] be like and that's a partner that's what they brought that's what they with that's what they riding and flying out with hold on let me start the [ __ ] now y'all stop playing with me now you pull that [ __ ] up again and it's just like it's like a party almost it's like june whatever the [ __ ] pot name is john you [ __ ] with that you know what i'm saying it's it's it's a salesman thing bro like that's a loss all right i'm just blessed i can be able to make beats and know how to actually sell cause y'all realize i don't have this big ass face card or social media present you know i'm saying like i play would come out to see speakers in the streets and this is what i when i'm in the room it's like what can i do like nobody won't know you know what i'm saying like nobody who's not sure of it anything is if you're not sure of it put somebody else who in there who is sure of it everybody like you know i think it is you may not be here you might not just be this that may not be you but you having the right person around you to make sure that part still gets done that still makes you the best you that still makes you the best [ __ ] that i don't do that if i that i'm looking for now if i put this if i put that around me i just know i'm not going to do that i feel like lebron james is the best person at that too like that yeah i think that [ __ ] know spring hill movie deals nah he ain't doing that yeah he he gotta win and be strong on the court as long as he do that that's the brand maverick carter go do all that yo i'm saying like go it's just putting the right people in place to make sure everything you want get done hey you lit it here right there too much sauce so we have this um thing we used to do on with the older podcast called overrated underrated basically we give you a topic and you say if it's overrated or underrated and then you say your reason like why so for the first one is traveling to meet artists that's underrated for sure because like is it well it depends on who you are too because some people just a person who would just could never connect with an artist or the person their sound may have but far as like so it that's a that's an in-between i'm a dude that's hard but if i have to hit if i dance i'll say underready because getting in and locking with the artist and knowing who the person and just the soul you dealing with like whether you just vibe with him or not you can sometimes feel like a good soul or a good person you're dealing with so just a side track a little bit so let's say artists i mean not artists let's say producers who was like in germany got down on the island somewhere what can they do to like you know what i'm saying network with artists keep dming me me all these [ __ ] they doing how they doing it i don't know anybody eating though i don't know anything really notice from netherland germany voo voo music vue heart food music cue beats uh cash on the ap from over there kyo from over there uh 808 mel all in for them folks is man for a little like yanis coming over here to the states dunking on [ __ ] like man you don't need to speak but i swear i'll talk to cats on the ap i ain't no i just see him on the ground you know he wears balenciaga gotta look curly i like this little light skin dude he was like yeah buddha you're gonna make beat we're gonna make beats yo like these come over here dominating like don't sleep it's more of a world now like the internet made everything smaller i'm saying like where everybody get on and get to do their thing like for real all right so dm is important thing especially for people who's not really like near the big music cities so let's talk about younger producers theme and like producers they want to work with like you for example an artist when you're looking at dms and you you know saying you're looking at people who want to work with you what kind of like stuff strays you away from adidas the lame is [ __ ] i don't hey look i don't like all that look man i'm on i got cancer and that you know you start hearing all that [ __ ] i schooled this one boy so quick one time like out a lot of you're not like just being an [ __ ] but just out of like being real in love [ __ ] he got on there he was like hey man you inspire me this is this and that man i'm just trying to change my family life my my my my aunt got cancer just got going on this and i still talk to him now too cause i i didn't leave him after i said what i said because i you know i said what i said to him but i was like hey bro like from one man to another nobody care about none of that [ __ ] you just said hey look i said bro look no i'm not real talk nobody care about none of that [ __ ] like my folks will die every day this happens every day every day i don't know why i'm a i have a harsh reality at it like just like i just get it like nobody's gonna feel sorry for you you know i'm saying like and i said to him don't appeal to my gratitude appeal to like my needs something i need don't have me coming there feeling sorry for you have me come in there feeling like i need that's like uh 48 laws of powersheet and i know it appeals to my like don't like don't have me like don't try to judge like appeal to what i need might be like just coming in on my gratitude like on man i i just want you to i know you have rich and i just wanted i just want to see if god gonna move to you and you're gonna have a heart to give me a start like don't do that like like like like don't do that you know what i'm saying like like don't do that like what you just said [Laughter] a heart to give me a start right god damn man like i got two producers signing me dang i ain't got them off the ground yet and i gotta have a heart to give you stuff like i'm saying like that's what it be but that's why i said like appeal to something that [ __ ] like if you're trying to get to something like appeal to what that something is like make yourself align with it don't i'm saying like don't don't try to hop there or hop under or hop behind or hop before it even you align yourself with it and then what direction that's going and to where a person like myself or any producer metro south side they can see you you know valuable as an asset i'm saying because i signed liabilities before i signed my book i need 1500 bro and i kind of [ __ ] up too because i i do try to i guess you could say spoil [ __ ] and [ __ ] just trying to you know show [ __ ] i'm saying [ __ ] better than what the [ __ ] needs to grow on whatever felt like [ __ ] [ __ ] real and [ __ ] like that but i'm saying i signed liabilities so second overrated underrated no no music there it's underrated it's just it's it's it's just good music like sonics but the thing is is like what is good music so it's so opinionated somebody could do it's like and it could sell a bunch of records but how did it make you feel like i keep going to this record because it's the biggest record ever but old town road how did that make you feel and that's the biggest song of all time sales wise held along to how did marvin gaye was going on major over it on the reddit um using midis said like i'm using midis like what do you mean by that drum minis or it could be like like something that comes in sequence already the loops like the files and you oh you talking about those pianos oh yeah that's that's overrated it's overrated when the reason why i say overrated is cause it's like [ __ ] man how much more easier you want this [ __ ] to [ __ ] be like [ __ ] like you got all you gotta do is drag the 808 down to the note and it matches whatever loop you found and it'd be like it and it'd be like i get the vibes of trying to find the this is this and that but a lot of people they'll take that and go make it their own anyway like a lot of people take it in they'll start making it as long as you you know you tailor it to what you i don't know i just i never even seen that physically i heard about that but i haven't physically seen or downloaded something i could pull up and it's already like a midi thing that i can just start [ __ ] with now i've seen that i'm lying i've seen that before and that's one thing how way i seen the 808 mafia high hat [ __ ] and i'm like i was on my i was on my one on my producer's computer though that's i'm saying his computer he was i'm like bruh these [ __ ] [ __ ] look like a gang look like word was a word puzzle man like [ __ ] like crazy so assembling old songs it's underrated i say yes that's what i do like that vibe whether i'm sampling or not is um it's always going back go it's always good to go back and appreciate this is what is good to make new and move forward i just feel like hip hop itself was started on appreciating other music it's the only other music that really samples or like you can take any genre of music and put a hip-hop thing to it and it'll be like it's like latin hip-hop you don't hear that with any other type of it's it's latin gospel it's latin r b you don't hear that you hear latin you're there's r b or is that where is that where you where's that or is that hip-hop is it's like a bridge like a connector with all that and [ __ ] hip-hop was spotted on the james brown drum break beat drums that's all hip-hop was they didn't have this back then they had the djs and the dj will have a james brown record and that part of the record that word just do cut it's been a long time i should have left you the rocking down to comparing it's a whole it was two records going to literally two samples they took the drum beat from this and the little string piano apart from that record it then put another record on when the hook come in they scratching the words for the hook like that kid didn't play [ __ ] like all that type [ __ ] you know what i'm saying so like sampling is that's the art form of where this [ __ ] was going it grew into like more originality which is great because that's more money for our pockets but to go back and listen and at least pull from is always an amazing thing the last thing is using expensive vsts overrated i know you say use hardware but i'm not [ __ ] that i made big amount with wave sounds on the side of fruity loop oh like a one shot one shot and i had to go in and [Music] the streams that was all wave like one shot uh those are all ways literally it's about what you doing with what you got that's why i ain't never like like that session [ __ ] didn't believe it there is no vst present in that whole thing really all my songs like that now because i use hardware but now i get a fruity loop long as i got my drums i'm good i make everything on my board so like the back track going back to like placements you're working with migos trade to change you got these placements like what investments are you making with your money at this point uh first thing i invested in was my house like when i got paid i made sure i spent a little more money than i wanted to on it too reason being because i know the money would go there and not to something just like you know i'm saying like i'd rather spend money on this then be like oh well i got this money i'm gonna get this i'm gonna get a car like i'm gonna go do this like cause i got more money it's more money freed up first thing i did was when they got it how that's the best thing and every and even since i got my house i got my house two years ago february 14th uh uh valentine's day 2020. i got it appraised it went up hundred thousand dollars like since the pandemic and all that [ __ ] like i'm i'm i'm up a hundred thousand dollars i'm not going to tell them i was going to keep my house but another thing i've been doing too is investing in my artist i got frosted k she um has curtain rashida daughter she's on love and hip hop right now she just she just did the contract she just finished shooting whenever she dropped whenever that new show is coming out i'm dropping that i'm putting my time on my money there and my thought my focus there on her a lot she already got her own little bags and i don't try to build up [ __ ] and from nothing and i was a trap [ __ ] and i got a thousand followers and uh you know what i'm saying she just got motion it's just different things that come come with tv time certain etiquette certain things she know just know how to and she dope like a lot of like artists get lost in you know like a little tv world and all that little [ __ ] but shawty dope like she's just hard like i just she's just hard and just that's where i can save my time in like my investment like i'm not done with this music i ain't staying started the cryptocurrency [ __ ] you ain't starting on that [ __ ] i got me a crib you know you was supposed to get you a crib that you own it's your crib and i still wanted to put in this music i still got a lot to get his game musically like a lot to get his game i only got some cars too but ain't no that's not investment i'm talking about [ __ ] that i appreciate over time and my mom crib too because i just look at that too if we both get our cribs paid off it's like a million and some changing in the family you know what i'm saying like we get by that's how i look at it my mom's house get paid off and my my house get paid off but if anything happened in the family like anything to hurt me to anything that's like like a million isn't changing in the family like just my family can go off of like it's in property even whatever [ __ ] but if anything just so happen i got kids too i got five five kids yeah i sell it [ __ ] i might have my wheel i got my wheels i ain't got my wheels set up that's something i need to get to but even with [ __ ] like that like i go sell that house everybody just start another peter's pizza they like you know what i'm saying like just a little [ __ ] like that like i know i got a good 100 20 000 i was gonna get from from dad or from grand you know what i'm saying like from just the family you know what i'm saying like the family that's how i really look at [ __ ] that's what i'm gonna make sure my mom was gonna sell her house i made sure she didn't i made sure my mom wanted to sell my own some like equity [ __ ] like wow that's a house we got in the family my aunt got a house too though but like you know my honest she's us but you know you know your mommy you know yeah immediate immediate media my honest immediate immediate media too but like it's even with her house in the family with my house all my crib my mom on her crib my uh on her crib my grandmother on her crib in new york and i think she owned her career out in in orlando you ever thought about getting like real estate tight [ __ ] on the side yeah uh yeah that's one thing uh shout out lisa the owner too she been on my ass about uh staying on that but i'll be in my own way you know cause i i'll be like i just i'll be thinking about what i'd be thinking about it ain't been like i'd be like [ __ ] that investment [ __ ] it'd be like well if i get an artist like boy if i got a little uzi vert like you know that dream i'm like you know what i'm saying that hustle you know what i'm saying is like i'm still there and it's like man if i can get if i could just be ditty will y'all need him yo your calendar is set for the next [ __ ] month [ __ ] you got 15 shows and we getting paid from anywhere from 50 000 to 200 000. like walk throughs and like different [ __ ] that come with artists being there where you can branch yourself with artists i think that's where i'm at next branding myself with an artist like really in that light because you could say i got a lot of two change records like right now i have an album worth the music out on two chains right now i have an album worth the music out on dolph right now i have two albums worth of music on migos but it's not like branded with with with them like oh yeah you know y'all know you because of them i know you did but brandy with how 21 at metro came out with savage mode how pierre and playboy cardi came out with the albums they came out with how you know what i'm saying like you're branded with it's it's it's it's a big difference how kanye wants to be able to bring b brandy with jay now part of that is just me being a loner too like as a person not a loner but just being like i want to stand on my own like we want to not be but it's all about the game you play like of course weezy going goddamn half thug sound he's son with them they with them they watch cell it makes sense to be boo you know what i'm saying like you can get in with your feet and like if you just work with him or a feature or something you know what i'm saying but that part makes sense as far as like i have being a part of a family and being a part of a a situation or whether i'm being branded with something going to build that going to build that relationship i built those relationships with you know i tried to start those relationships or those producer artists relationships with people and friends in my neighborhood but you know that always don't work out you feel like your brand's big enough when you could like hit those guys up and be like yo let's take these songs we ain't finished let me put them on my project let me make my own project or something ah yeah i dread all the time every producer do it all the time but the artists give you records and i got records in my phone right now you'll be like bro all right i mean it'd be way more than that it'd be way more politics getting the song cleared and if that was the case metro boomin would put out an album every you know what i'm saying like not all heroes wear capes and all that [ __ ] that [ __ ] take like like salute and that's platinum like he's a reducer and dropped a platinum album he's not like dj khaled he's a brand metro is a big ass brand but he's just not like dj khaled love my song it's me and jay-z like he don't got that whole you know what i'm saying but just a sound and a metro and go platinum and make platinum records it's a big feat and you get all the [ __ ] cleared [ __ ] that's some [ __ ] like that'd be that thing like because they i try to go in like i'm putting together my blues album they be like yeah you try to try to do singles like you you know you know like the label be like it's hard to get you get another label to goddamn give you a budget and they like yeah let's just see if we do singles because we don't want to just commit to a whole album and we can never get [ __ ] cleared because they are just putting out a song but it's under our imprint you know what i'm saying it ain't like it's a [ __ ] on the song it's a producer cause i started saying that weird politics should start coming into we're going back into like investing in your brand and stuff and put you in a scenario so you're in atlanta you got like a thousand dollars to move around that is like like like eating but he got thousand dollars to like market like this is spending money what moves would you make kind of like get connected and i'm starting from clean scratch you know but like i don't know nobody i'm just gonna know about you just got beats and thousands i'm from alaska and trying to get to atlanta make beach i'm starting to click talk about it because anybody who knows anything about the [ __ ] world right now i know atlanta is the [ __ ] club cap like strip club like definitely strip club big big meech then they don't [ __ ] it up they came to alana throwing so much money you could show [ __ ] here now for real that's why i like that but you get here and it's like you know that's where the music at you know that's where the rapper's at you know that's where now mind you you're not gonna get a basement in the club by walking up to a rapper you're not you repeat that people you're not you know don't go to the club like i'm gonna get fresh today i'm gonna walk up and break in the flash drive don't do that silly ass [ __ ] don't do that go there soak up vibe go there you know what i'm saying like um okay boom hey [ __ ] dj that [ __ ] dj every that [ __ ] dj every saturday on a popular night um what's up bro my name my name you wanna do you drink something you wanna drink bro you wanna who you want i think it might be like give me some patron or [ __ ] might be like just give me a water or [ __ ] might just be like nah i'm cool and you come back and do what the [ __ ] again the next saturday or you're gonna do it the wednesday where it's slow when he dj in there and you can just really like and this is a producer now this is a producer i'm not talking about artists because artists get out y'all could do this [ __ ] too and make more relationships and whatever this is a producer see who you get to know you know why because some other thousand [ __ ] walk up to him every day willing to pay willing to give a little 100 to payday song for 30 seconds [ __ ] that ain't big [ __ ] big come up to him because they he's in a popping club they want to keep their relationships we want to keep our records going to where it's like yeah a lot of artists unless they just get too big or whatever they don't want to [ __ ] on the dj like just like it kind of got away from it a little bit nowadays but for you a [ __ ] being knowing nobody it's still something you got to play or you should play whole dj that where artists like dj big tiny perfect example all right that's what i grabbed with uh dj big tiny was he was an honey bag yo dj now he's only mac yo dj right now he was yo got his dj he's from memphis and he he was flocka dj yo gotti when he ain't on tour hey yo dj diamond hey onyx meanwhile you ain't saying [ __ ] to him you just going to the club looking at hoes looking at them i'm sorry i know the producers are gone but you just looking at hoes and [ __ ] and [ __ ] like you're just there and just you don't get you know three little hundred dollars you know [ __ ] like to put a little hundred dollars y'all trying to cuff your little tent to go home with i'm talking about [ __ ] who don't have money i ain't know where that money but meanwhile you could have spent that same honey with this [ __ ] who know you won't got it but he watched you trying to spend it he money back yo dj and if you hot really just have beats that hard he can get no money back and get five percent of ten percent offer whatever you negotiate with you at that point it's a play for him like it looked [ __ ] hard who you trying to ain't signing nobody like that she played me i pull up to my spot pull up to the apartment the plane be that apartment hey look bruh [ __ ] say at that point you get you could negotiate anything bruh i know your [ __ ] goddamn blow up bro i know i can get you the bag i know i can get you to push ice tea i know i can get you to that i'm just i'm just talking about from dj big tiny because i know him i know what he can't do hey little girl i ain't gonna lie man you out of here i'm trying to manage you though i'm trying to sign i'm trying to sign i'm gonna shoot code nothing with you like i'm trying to get you point a to point b so we both just go in there now whatever you give up in the negotiable that's negotiated but meanwhile that just started from you going to the club and talking to the right [ __ ] and when you talk to the right [ __ ] appealing to them god what am i [ __ ] gratitude i got the hardest [ __ ] bro this [ __ ] hard bruh [ __ ] ahead i swear to god i don't care [ __ ] i hear that [ __ ] every day you got 100 you got some money for me [ __ ] be like man they trying me going to play myself god gave me 100 playing my song for 45 seconds 60 seconds first of all that's all that's even big [ __ ] only they getting that [ __ ] cut that fast this club everybody moving to the next song but [ __ ] be feeling some type [ __ ] go to the club and don't say the right things to the right people you talk to the strippers and you y'all [ __ ] with this song you [ __ ] with that get a [ __ ] number yeah my song i see it all the time like yeah that my song yeah yeah yeah meanwhile [ __ ] who push and play that [ __ ] don't care she's like yeah you threw me money that's all you're throwing money too right yeah yeah i thought that [ __ ] was hard you know saying like she don't give a [ __ ] you do it you just threw your bag to it make sure this [ __ ] give a [ __ ] you know what i'm saying like that's some artist [ __ ] but even with playing like [ __ ] around with dj's is just like as a producer the [ __ ] be like and i did it like i just need to be coming here you don't even ask me to play zone right this [ __ ] just dropped the whole play like the play not real i'm telling you that [ __ ] he don't even he don't even he don't even he don't even ask me to play songs it's like what does he want from me i'm building a relationship bro i'm just let me start out as not being um a leech first try to add to the cubs right like bro like that man i gotta go home and feed his kids like man get the look up [ __ ] ain't gonna put up forte for you know four saturdays in a row yeah he only gave me like fifty dollars every time he came man you know just [ __ ] with me like whether there's a drink like whatever money you spent with them like like two three hundred dollars or whatever somebody wi-fi bill that small like imagine if you had to go your wi-fi cut off right now and the [ __ ] just was like he just had it cost 325 and he just you like hey that'd be weird but like just [ __ ] paying your [ __ ] but it's just like but for your business it's like you whatever you grew you could just like i don't know if you sell beats just say anything push and play on the song like it's just small [ __ ] of course [ __ ] wants the world [ __ ] want to get paid more for that but it's just having a reason to be an asset to somebody like brother left bro left the work and got wi-fi with my money you remember that he feel that these [ __ ] ain't been rich all day life i know i wasn't real brother [ __ ] that's another thing bro you gotta appeal you gotta know how to appeal to that we're not looking like a starving broke [ __ ] too like you gotta know how to appeal right bro look i don't need you but i'm trying to look like come on [ __ ] got down [ __ ] working like y'all know how to piss this it's a fine line with a bunch of [ __ ] like it's a fine line this is it's a dance it's all a little dance but everybody ain't being rich you know what i'm saying like you can fight everybody been finding humble point even with me like like i see things somebody will say to me and i find the humble point like damn i remember i felt like that brother i responded to them on instagram or not losing matter of fact i gave a [ __ ] jump yesterday at qt like this one so i'm like jump right yeah i remember that [ __ ] i had a saturn but i'm not [ __ ] starting [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] my curse is a [ __ ] well i remember that it just humbled me too like like he's just appealing to those right things though so [ __ ] not like all right bro he's another [ __ ] hey buddha blesses me okay i know [ __ ] you like young boy son that's all it is appealing appealing appealing appealing appealing that's what anything women business people appealing appealing knowing the pill and dressing for the job appealing well let me ask you this so i know main thing like when producers think okay how can i get placements we got of course the artist director state manager engineers songwriters and you just said dj's well i feel like producers just forgot about djs what's some other like people like that you could you know say i want to get my beast of a baby like what are people around him that you get your beats to uh people have a and rs and all that stuff too you know a and rs but like let's say artists like little baby i don't know if baby just sitting there really looking i don't know i never been in the studio with him just sitting there like where uh let's say that our jonathan where's jonathan at with the beats you know what i'm saying i think little baby studio kicking it you know you don't need to do shooting dice you hear something come out from speakers whatever come out them speakers if it's hard it's hard i think he more business now to where he can hear a beat and really like it and be like this [ __ ] gonna be hard who's producer on him let's get let's take him get the out of here type [ __ ] like we're saying they out of here the boys out here type [ __ ] but um but we'll say that question one more time i wanna make sure i'm answering besides the regular like engineered song right right right right right right like some of the people you can get to but um sometimes you gotta another thing you gotta know you gotta know who a artist [ __ ] with like it could be a little partner who just be bringing the lean he'll rap too go make his [ __ ] tape don't make his [ __ ] bro gonna hear it cause he love him he could be hard if it's hard he's gonna be that's the same thing that happened with um the cash and strap [ __ ] the brs cash travis supporter we just making records and at the time i didn't really i didn't know cash was related to transporter in him he was just the [ __ ] in the neighborhood and he had a little girl he always the kicking you know he had some shorties it was just like on some shorties and he'd just be rapping and [ __ ] like type [ __ ] then it was like oh yeah food my cousin i'm like what yeah i'm trying to put up my gun yeah like nah but for real bro i swear right am i good [ __ ] took me to where he stayed he took me to his crib you know he stayed with his he stayed with their grandmother cash stay with their grandmother i see pictures of him at the crib i'm like oh [ __ ] this is real keep working and then that relationship evolved from brs cash to travis porter and me meeting dj east hood because issa dj travis porter mixtapes in ej issa dj cash mixtape then esa going into being street ex manager now i have the relationship with streets x period street is ace um al tech lawyer miss carol charlie i know the whole infrastructure now i got everything now to where i walk in the studio and be like yeah buddha to where i go to issa it'll be like i don't got no records but it'd be like bro i'm trying to get some [ __ ] to bruh like bro you got to [ __ ] with me bro like bro this is where i swear i swear bro i'm just i need to be where she's gonna be hard where i'm gonna get some [ __ ] to break like [ __ ] like yeah cuz you came around you know showed your face for five [ __ ] years five you know what i'm saying like it was time i was going around there thinking i finna get signed 3d6 hey really [ __ ] really [ __ ] everything anybody ever did charlie charlie jabbing um he stopped he stopped uh managing he stopped street he's exciting to do like the whole health fitness thing but he had an interview and he brought my name up and a couple other people too cause i like it was a time where they were signing producers they were signing everybody but they had names on the board i seen eight track i seen chill go hard i seen my name seen child pals i seen mondo i've seen his other g fritz one of them [ __ ] like that just seen a bunch it was a bunch of them and my name didn't get signed and i didn't get signed everybody got not everybody but but i did not get that call i just knew i was gonna get that call i was being cash was going crazy i just started getting transported [ __ ] ain't called my name but charlie got an interview and was like um i missed that he literally said i missed it and you know what i overlooked him because he was you know he was trapped to fool's little cousins producer yo i love because because i say it's exactly how i looked in the interview like that's how i looked at it as a person but for him to say now i overlooked that that [ __ ] mean that [ __ ] meant something to me like and she was cool like just on some just keep working type [ __ ] bro like like we're like keep working type [ __ ] cuz like a person i felt like man they didn't came back it was like now even when he came back and said i overlooked you ain't like he needed me still was like who he was he was like man nah i didn't see that that's something i ain't catch mad i didn't but i'm glad you made it yo man you know i'm jam like that [ __ ] cool oh let's get into young thug travis scott out west how did that placement come back i had when we did modern slavery and we did me and travis scott did a song with for juicy j he uh um he switched his number he had his phone number he switched his number but i still kept just flooding his email i always just kept saying i always just i do it like routine just emails like sending [ __ ] especially people out like know that like looking they'll look at my email and put up i just kept sending them beats and he uh he emailed me back he was like hold this beat and he said the name of it held it then they called me the um they called me to l.a it was me sycamore his manager i think neo was out there but he played me he played it for me you know he ain't saying thought was on it he just played it and i'm like and i'm listening to it i don't know that's good he played that he played highest in the room that's before he even came out he's in la yup he's in conway in l.a he played both those records and he little baby was supposed to be on the original you know putting him on the remix but when i first heard it it was a little baby on like it was the heist in the room was travis scott featuring little baby but i guess he just you know left him for the remix all right so we had posted on on instagram um for producers to ask some questions and we got a lot we got some weird ones we got some hard ones too someone said most profitable song oh know it's like a three-way tie between heat ios and make no sense it's like a three-way tie but don't stop was eligible for like go to platinum earlier but make no sense is the highest selling it's but ios was but he got the most radio play it's just like a i really can't tell you i tell you what though this song coming about to come out that's gonna be my most profitable song is my [ __ ] my phone get my [ __ ] my phone no no i'm i'm sure like right i'm 100 sure you're going to t that's all you're going to say no i'm going to say [ __ ] i'm going to take [ __ ] hey so let's talk about that though right there right man i don't put the situation out but like producers speaking on their placements before they come out how can that [ __ ] backfire on you i don't know speaking on a placement it don't backfire it's like it says you always hear like you know who you've been working with yes i've been working with this person i've been working with this person i've been working with this person i mean now if you just oh i got one on there i just got on there i know i'm on it what i'm saying like that's different how you saying it but it depends on some producers like kanye west may not want you know unless he just like they got that little vibe going on we're just i want that i want a cocoon and i want nobody to know nothing until or something you know what i'm saying on this question about leno he said how do you get his how do you get your drums to knock sound selection and mixing tips for your 808's i guess how you mix your beats stop all that extra [ __ ] y'all be putting on them stop all that no i use camo crush all that wave shape boy and i'm gonna do all this sometimes you just the sound will come as it is bro just change the notes on that [ __ ] like put a maximus on you on your like i'm saying like just control it like i remember i used to over mix my i'm talking about i used to be on youtube oh my 808 or if i did a hurts cut off at 20 percent 20 hertz you need to make it hit harder even still you apply some of those things but it'd be like and even like with the sound and all of that like that's why you but you got to keep making beats bro like you got to know your sweet spot it's really a combination like it's really a combination of [ __ ] i could do right now and know i can go sell because it's a proven combination rather and like like the make no sense sound that's what i call it like people identify me like heat don't sound like i was a west don't sound like make no sense make no sense don't sound like big amount bigger mom don't sound like call casting nothing sounds the same but make no sense for some reason that song is how people identify me like what they like bro you made i mean those things like i need something like this so i get a studio [ __ ] like i need something like this i need something like this i need something like this i need something like this to the point where i can just use the same elements in the beat and give it to kodak and he gonna rap young boy's song on it and the [ __ ] go back up like i feel like i'm called that back in 2015. that's i feel like i'm gucci mane in 2006 and this is the same mechanics on the b i got my base i got my 808 i got my little i use i use the flute in the kodak one i use a rode in the nba young boy one but to a point it's a formula a proven one and it's like you know it brothers like people lock in on it like it's something you really can't explain like they they will let you know they'll let you know i've been on it trying to find my sound like like when they come on where they tag on it you know it's zay when kanye come on you know that's hey when that folk come on you know it's for real when timbaland you hear them little flutes in them blue arabian [ __ ] you know that's him like you i fought for that for a long time bro for a long time to be able to have a formula that i can just like i hop gonna make pancakes bruh and the motherfucker's gonna come in there and they're gonna buy pancakes it's ihop they don't gotta change it they can make it automatic no matter who come in [ __ ] just pour it in and just drop it it's a hot hot pancake you know what i'm saying like they're my favorite on sale like it's finding that and that's making enough beats and sometimes you just be making a beat one night you might have been awful you might have been sober you might have been drunk you might have been high you might have been shroomed you might have been anything that was just that one day something is just my vibrations like where i vibrated that that day it just went there and when you find it you better learn it it's like you got to study what you did again because sometimes you just be cooking up sometimes you got to go through the music theory of what you did and why it is like what did people gravitate about like people be trying to do four count now right and they don't even know with the like to try to achieve the same little sound i did it's a certain thing you have to do you just can't do like you could do it but it's like a it's weird whereas like it's something i can't explain it's just my music a little weird theory like he got that's a little weird [ __ ] but it's just like studying sound and really just making beats and when you get that [ __ ] just locking in on what who you are on what you got how do you know when to stop adding elements to a beat you ever try to rap over it and it'd be always right always hum or rap over i don't care who it is i'll do a crayvolt cadence i'll do it i'll whoever i'm trying to get on it i'll rap like in two chains i guess you gotta do my little impressions i literally try to make my voice sound like the [ __ ] to hear i was sound on it and if it's just hard for you to rap over it's just like or you you just i don't know like and it took a fine line of knowing that space because i used to want to kanye west everything i used to want to bring strings in and if i can get an orchestra from my from my old high school and bring him in and put him on his record like i'm in the business of making hit records and hit records they need their space they they have powerful melodies good drums and great space heat has great space with a good melody we [Music] that's not a bunch of just straight it's a bop it's a vibe big amount [ __ ] some of these beats i'm not even pi i'm not even dropping stuff no mom made no sense i didn't even drop a sound i did a four account and ran it all the way through sonically that that melody is holding that damn strong this is what it is make too much it ain't too little it's just about what the song what's going on man that's really it though child producer grind shout out dylan for having me shout out the whole week community

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Published: Sun Nov 21 2021