Brittany Cartwright | Not Skinny But Not Fat

Britney hey hi how are you I'm good how are you you look great thank you and you're going through it right now so like saying you look great is like I mean it thank you because people that go through like separations and stuff like aren't leaving their house aren't being public about it no and here you are I feel like I've had to be very public about it I know it's been crazy you know the whole public part is something most people don't have to deal with when they're going through something like this yeah well I want to start from the very beginning okay because I was going through some Nostalgia thinking of you and when you joined the cast and you were like a little itty baby 26 with little little itty booies um they're obviously that's they're obviously different now they're different now I know what were they then um probably like a A or a B I'm not really sure I was so mad at him then by the way when when he like wanted me to go bigger yeah I remember I was like I was never a like Jack's um like the people that were against him no matter what he did I was like you know I enjoy watching reality TV for like the characters that give us good TV you know what I mean but with that I was annoyed well but then I realized you liked it yeah I think that he got a lot of hate because people just thought that he like made me get a big job which is not the case at all but they are way bigger than I want right now so oh yeah oh yeah I'll definitely do like a a downside a mommy makeover one day and get them smaller really yeah cuz they just keep growing and growing and growing in like the energizing bunny wait how do they grow just if my weight fluctuates and stuff it's just like up and down up and down like they feel hum right now so and I feel like they make me look bigger than I really am too right that's the thing with big boobs like sometimes I'm like I want smaller boobs cuz like you know what I mean it's hard to dress because I'm like smaller like down here and then like up here so it's a whole thing but yeah but people do get like reductions oh yeah for sure and I would do I would definitely do that it's just I want to see if I G to have more kids or not you know I know so let's talk about you coming on boobs aside you officially joined the cast in season six but we met you SE season four oh yeah yeah yeah were you a fan of the show no I had not ever seen an episode whenever I met Jack never ever are there people that don't believe you cuz people say that people still at this day think that I got into his DMS and met him like that and I'm like I have literally told the story a thousand times we were at a bar in Vegas and he approached me at the bar we met Katie first because my friend Carol was a fan of the show so I literally took a photo of Cara with Katie and then Schwarz came over and we all went to the bar to take a shot and then Jax came up so how did it get though to the point where you're moving to La for him uh we just uh spent every single night in LA or in Vegas together for like four days straight and then I figured we wouldn't talk anymore after that cuz obviously I found out who he was everybody was telling me that he's like this bad boy and stuff so I go back to Kentucky and every other week I was like flying out to LA to see him and then he like asked me to move in right away kind of he was even telling me in Vegas that he wanted me to move to LA like Fast wow yeah so he like swept you off your feet yeah we like definitely had that like love at first sight type romance and were you listening to the chatter of people online and people being like no no no I mean people were definitely telling me my mom had to even watch the show so she like knew who JX was and stuff oh my God so people definitely were letting me know about who he was but I'm such a I don't judge people for their past and stuff I'd rather like I was more about like how you treat me is what I'm going to go off of do you think that he was partly So Into You because you were so different and such a good girl I think so he liked my accent he was like he talked about all that stuff and I think I was just a lot different than all the LA girls right so and how did you feel about coming on the show though uh I was a nervous wreck I was it was insane I barely spoke the first couple times you see me like Jax was definitely the one that carried all the conversations because I was just so nervous yeah it was very weird and meeting the casts and stuff too oh it was so intimidating but they kind of like took you in oh yeah I actually became friends with Katie like that's how we met Jack because Katie was so nice and she was like she was like let's talk like where are you guys from like she started talking about our accents and stuff because my friend Cara that I was visiting she's from Kentucky as well so that's kind of how the ice was broken there and then Sheena was like nice to me right away got really close to Sheena whenever I moved to LA they were they were actually nice to me Lala was the only one that you had a little bit of a that's so funny isn't that funny looking back like seeing you guys like fight go yeah well I had to like confront her and really it was Jack that was being a flirty [ __ ] the whole time yeah how are you now you and Lala we're great yeah yeah I love her good I love her too um there is something going around on Tik Tok I think that's saying that they did hook up have you seen that I don't think they ever hooked up no I she would have told me by now yeah it doesn't matter anymore like you never know in this friend group we just found out about Sheena and Schwartz oh yeah that's crazy did you know about that no I don't think I knew about it like unless she told me one night drunkenly and I forgot but she's never mentioned it to me was that what did you think when you saw that I was just like what like I just she tells me all these crazy stories all the time so the fact that that one was left out was weird to me yeah but do you believe it that it was just like a not a full-on make out that it was just like a little kiss or um I do believe it I feel like it was probably just a drunken Vegas thing you know and she probably felt like guilty about it because he was dating Katie and she was dating Shay so that's probably why she didn't tell anybody no I feel like that's more the the I feel like the shocking part is more that Sheena did it to Shay yeah than Schwarz did it to Katie because we know that he he's made out with multiple girls he was on the show yeah um so everybody loved you on the show like I said you really fit in thank you so quickly and people were rooting for you with everything going on with Jack especially season six oh gosh yeah so how upset were you when you weren't coming back for season 8 uh it was really weird well we were on season 8 we didn't come back for season N9 yeah but um it was really weird because at that point our whole relationship had been on camera so it was going to be a new part of our relationship also that we were going to go through but was you know it was a much needed break for us as well because Jax was kind of getting a little bigheaded a little egoy towards the end of it like not wanting to show up for certain things and kind of taking things for granted and he he'll say this himself so he felt like he needed that time to like really like understand and now he's like ready to come back and he's like so much better with that kind of stuff would you have stayed without him or was that a no not even a question for you um I mean if him and I would have broken up I would have stayed right cuz how would you do it if you're together you mean exactly yeah cuz we were married by that point it's funny that you're saying his ego got big and now he learned like you're still defending him whereas like still now his ego is so big like basically says that he created the valley he kind of did yeah he actually kind of did listen I think it's just kind of like my natural thing to like try to take up for him and I know it sucks and I shouldn't do that but are you like that with everybody you love uhhuh I like I'm ride or die like I got your back no matter what but you know it's I can see how stupid I look on like the valley when I'm like he didn't mean it he shouldn't have pulled his pants down like the stupidest thing but you still believe that like about the pants do are you still siding with Jack on the pant oh I think it was so stupid obviously like I think that it was like very childish but also I don't think it's that big of a deal I see you know yeah so but what I'm saying is his ego is still big oh his ego is still big but but when whenever I say that it's because he was being like so weird like he didn't want to go to Malibu because he said it would take too long to drive and do a scene there he's like we could do a scene here and it'd be the exact same like he was kind of getting like that and you can't be like that if you're trying to make a show so like a diva yeah he was being a diva was being a diva yeah so he at least doesn't do that part anymore so did you have any resentment though like we're not on this show anymore because of you and I could be with all my friends and be still on TV I mean a little bit but there was so much going on at the time like it was Co I was pregnant there was just like so many different things that was happening so I'm kind of glad we weren't on really at that point yeah cuz I had like a a hard pregnancy you were saying you had a hyperemesis don't know yeah and my postart was pretty intense and you would had to film that yeah I would had to have film that so like I'd give all the props to like Sheena for going through that and I mean she's still going through it kind of on the show yeah yeah she's still dealing with the aftermath of G of giving birth yeah I mean it it takes a long time and for me I had gained so much weight and I just like people are so hard on me I feel like in the media and everything that I'm just glad I didn't have to deal with that publicly do you think people are harder on you than on other cast me me Members sometimes really yeah why do you do you think it's cuz they you're nice and yeah really I know that sounds weird but I don't like I take everything I'm very sensitive and I take things like personally whenever I shouldn't because it hurts my feelings like I I'm the type of person that's like I don't understand what I did to you to like make you be mean to me you know first of all it's a valid very sincere question about trolls what did I do to you yeah that you're so mean yeah it can like really get me down sometimes I try not to but I'm such a people pleaser I know that about myself and I just try to like I'm always wanting everybody to be happy everybody to get along like that's kind of like who that's who I am yeah so when somebody random is like going after my character or like spreading lies or doing whatever it just like really gets to me so is this stuff that gets to it sounds like more about does it get to you more when it's about who you are as a person or about like your appearance or stuff like that I mean more about if they're going after my character because I feel like I've never shown like a mean side or anything like right but I also feel like I get a lot more heat because I don't normally go off on people but like one time I like popped off at on James at like a reunion everybody was so mad at me I'm like so I just so I'm not supposed to ever take up for myself I kind of feel like I get backed into a corner a little bit with that kind of stuff I feel like we do get to see a little bit of um that side of you on the valy now where you do talk you're you're more spoke you speak up for yourself more oh for sure we're seeing that like do you think it has to do with maybe you feel like more confident cuz Vander pump you came in new and were always going to be newer than you know the OG and here you're the OG I am I'm the OG it's crazy and I also think I've just gotten stronger after I had my son and kind of like woke me up a little bit and and this season on the valley I think you're going to gradually see me continue to get stronger good so yeah how did you feel this season the girls on Vanderpump kind of brought up your relationship they were talking about they were at lunch and they were saying like rumors about Jax and Britney I mean we all are still very close friends like even though we're we're on the valley they're on Vander pump rules like we all know each other everybody in our cast knows everybody on Vander pump we're still around each other all the time um and I think that there's always things about Jack and like rumors going around and I don't believe that they're true right I mean who knows what he's doing right now but like back then he didn't believe it no ever since we've been married I really don't think he's cheated really yeah have you cuz I know when the faith thing happened on season you made sure to know all the details you heard the recording like you found out you legitimized it so when you hear rumors about him during your marriage have you checked them out we investigate you investigate you haven't found basis to those things no I have like all of his passwords I have his social media accounts I've got all that stuff and also that what they were talking about was like a picture on Reddit and it was like the bar owner's wife that took it and he was there too so like people just see a picture and they like kind of run with it yeah um but also like Janet on the valley she's like really good at doing that investig investigation stuff just like Kristen so like they'll like dig deep and find out every single detail so we debunked it we knew it wasn't true by the time that it did you get like do you get like annoyed with the girls on Vander pump like why would you bring up my relationship kind of thing on the show it was kind of weird since we're not on the show anymore but also like the valley was getting ready to do a crossover so kind makes yeah like like not bad uh product placement over there I mean even though we weren't on Vander pump We There was always flashbacks of us right so I was like Jack is still basically a cast member ping up that ego again um so do you have any foma watching Vander pump though or have you moved on from that um I don't really watch it all the time I but I do obviously see I get tagged and everything and I know what's going on because I'm so close with like Sheena and laa um I saw Ariana last time in Chicago by the way she did awesome oh yeah she's so good are you close with her yes and Tom Schwarz is like always around us too so like they're very much in our lives and sandal and Jack are like they're starting to be like friends again it's very weird is that I mean it's so weird yeah because Jack really leaned into the scand ofal yeah train he did so how how do they move how do they move I mean this group moves past while they're dead but they moved past it and they're like buddies now I think it's because Tom and Jack were friends longer than anybody like they kind of started that whole bander pump group like they modeled together way back when yeah and I think that over time Jack started realizing like you know yeah what he did was bad but he didn't like kill anybody so there's you know that's kind of how he was like taking it and Jax is like the last person that could like really judge something I mean but he did he did he did he did it was hard on him he did and I and he told him these things to his face too it's not like he just said it behind his back so I think they were able to get over it after and what about you with sand ofal I mean he's nice to me and I'm nice to him but um it's not like I'm like texting him or or meeting up with him or anything like that like no but he's he comes to our bar a lot so I like see him is that weird that he's supportive of I would think that he would be competitive with your bar they're so different ours is like such more of like a sports bar theirs is a little bit like fancier kind of like they're not really I don't really think that they're they don't see competition in it I don't see and it's going well Jack say yeah it's going really good and you're part of it I mean Jack said on the show but you're what do you do there at the bar um I helped with like a lot of the design and stuff and I've got like Mall's beer cheese on the menu and like different drinks and this and that and of course we go in and like we um a lot of it is us like promoting and getting people in and doing like different parties and different things like that so it's fun yeah yeah it could be fun it could be could be a lot yeah it could be a lot but it's F have chairs in the Place uh yeah we all we do it's just our partners are like so great we already had a place so we were able to get it open in like three months oh wow like very fast so it's not just his name on the bar yeah I see so yeah it's like you know but we're kind of the face of it the face of kind of like TomTom yeah but so now you're separated you have a son together you're working at the bar together you do a podcast together MH you were just doing Easter together you were just together you're a lot together we are but it seems like we're together a lot more than we are but I'm still like I'm still staying in a separate house but and you have to get an Airbnb yeah explain that so we just got into a big fight and I was just kind of like okay I'm I'm packing up and me and Cruz are getting out of this toxic environment so I went and got a Airbnb for a month and then it turned into two months three months so I've been in Airbnb since January 24th right before my birthday um so so what happened on your birthday did he wish you happy birthday I didn't invite him out did he try to talk to you and I mean happy birthday buy you a gift yeah he like was wishing me happy birthday and stuff but like we weren't posting about each other or anything like that so people started to notice that's the only reason I even said anything publicly is because like the Instagram investigators could tell that I was staying in a different house that is wild cuz when I started hearing about it I was like no way you know and then it's like way yeah a lot of people thought it was a publicity stunt I mean people yeah that's and I I was I mean I'm naive in general I never think things are publicity stunts but I'm like no way like that was another thing with my sensitive soul that like really hurt my feelings because like I feel like people should know my character I would never do that and I would never put my my St through this if it wasn't real but like I feel like I've gotten so much stronger and I just like had enough I hit my breaking point and I just was like I have to get out of here and Jax is really stubborn so he was not about to leave the house even if I paid for the Airbnb which I offered stop wow yep why do you have like separate finances yes that's good yeah oh yeah now you're probably happy about that yes very and what about Cruz how is he doing he's actually doing really good I think he's like thriving a little bit and and that kind of breaks my heart because I feel like we were just arguing in front of him and that's one of the main reasons I was like I have to get out of here cuz he doesn't deserve that yeah he doesn't deserve that so once I had him it was just like a veil was lifted and I could just see everything that I was going through and I just hit my breaking point they always say when a woman hits their breaking point it's like over are we ever going to know what that breaking point was like is it going to be on the show are you going to share it at any point um I we do pick up the cameras again so you know we filmed over the summer so it's been like six or seven months since we start filming but we picked cameras back up for a couple days so that we could document what was going on now so then people will find out kind of what that fight was m a little bit more into it I mean I don't really go into like too much detail but it sounds like it's not about cheating no no no it's more about behaviors more about respect and taking me for granted and different things like that so and people have been asking you a lot in the last you know couple months it's been going on like what cuz it's a separation you didn't file for divorce right you might give him a second chance it depends on what I don't know I'm like so up in the air right now like right now I'm like loving my space really yeah and I feel really glad about my space and not being like with him right now um if that he would have to do a lot of work to change my mind so it's kind of like in his hands if he's going to do the things that I've asked for him to do does it seem like he will in the beginning he was did not want me to leave and but now he's kind of more like sunken into the fact yeah he's leaning in a little bit and it's like okay if you're not going to work on it then I'm definitely gone so it just kind of depends on what's going to it depends on him it does look like he's leaning in may we see him at the bar I mean not that that's you know really you can know what anybody's going through on social media but I mean I'm thinking about Jax as a person and like yes he loves you and is probably so dependent on you and around dependent on me but maybe he's seeing this other life like wait I could be out here again I think he's like enjoying his space as well but like there's just a lot of internal things that he needs to fix so how do you separate that and then record a podcast separate that bar I will literally put my headphones in and ride in the car with him and then just do my podcast as a job yeah wow mhm and not like have small talk chitchat coffee like I will be honest if we have small talk we end up fighting really yeah so what was happening in Malibu when you were hanging out that was actually okay because it was Easter and that's super important to me and I want to Cru to have a good day so we kind of got into a little tiff before we got to Easter but one of our friends also was proposing that day so it wasn't like about us you know so I kind of just made it you were able to do that yeah yeah well good for you I want you to know that like the people have your back thank you even if you see like mean things on the internet most people think you deserve more yeah you know what I mean oh yeah I've been definitely getting a lot of support and whenever I say like I do get a lot of of like hate and stuff there's always way more people that oh I'm aware that like the hate can be 5% but it's so loud exactly exactly so I do have a lot of support and a lot of people are so kind to me it just you know going through a lot pebic can be very hard does it do you feel like you have the strength to go through with like a permanent separation like to be like we're done we're living you know it's going to be really hard I love my house and that's like one of the biggest you're like Tom sandal over here it's hard I mean that's my house too like you know like that's my home where I raised my son yeah and I really love it so like things like that are hard and like I don't know how I feel when he start if he starts dating somebody if I start dating somebody what are the rules now like of the separation are their intimacy roles we don't really like it's hard to have a conversation with j i mean about that it's also like weird it's he doesn't really like you can't just like sit down and have like a like a meaningful conversation with him it always turns into argument always gets defensive it's like really hard for me to do those things I'll try but it doesn't really get anywhere but I I mean I'm down to like hang out with somebody I think a separation is all about like figuring out what you want in your future really you know damn Bry okay okay I'm down with that yeah I'm down I mean I can if I want to so does that mean he can I mean if he wants to yeah but are you hearing stuff lately or no not really not really not really I think he's very much like I'm not I don't want to do that blah blah blah and I'm like whatever give you like another month and we'll see how you're acting then yeah you really did get a lot stronger and speaking of you're like Jacks can never own up to anything yeah it's like I was watching some clips from season 6 and it is a mind I don't know if we knew the term gaslighting then oh like we do today yeah but like wow the fact that he managed to flip the Fai thing on you because you played the audio yep is wild so think about dealing with stuff like that for nine years and putting up with it and how much that weighed on me over all these years and I was you felt bad I was so because I was so in love and like he he literally like made me feel that way it's a manipulate like he knew how to it really is like we use gaslighting very Loosely yeah but that is making flipping the script making somebody somehow managing to make you feel bad when he did the most awful [ __ ] yes and also his friend support I mean sandal supported that he was yelling at Ariana for and everyone was like yeah that's so [ __ ] up that Britney did that and I'm like what I'm like what's [ __ ] up is the recording in the first place right not that I played it but Britney you forgave that I did I did I forgave so much in our relationship and I'm glad that I have my son like at least I have that out of it can't like yeah it's hard to regret that exactly cuz cruise is the best thing in my life so that's worth any of the hard things I've been through but that's why I know I've gotten so much stronger because like if that was to happen to me now there's no way in hell I would stay with him or put up with it anymore like I've gotten so much stronger you think that today you wouldn't have oh gosh no there's absolutely no way I would stay with him after that after that and you had sex with him after that like the night that night or something it was a couple days later and that that was is like very weird but I've talked to like other women about that and I feel like it's like a like a ownership type thing a lot oh reactive thing yes yeah which is very weird I know but that's just kind of what it was like yeah have you gone to therapy to like talk through this stuff ever we've done it a couple times but together you've done it yeah but it was always on a show and stuff so it's like hard to yeah you know and now I I really want him to go that's you I feel like for you I haven't myself no I probably should because I like I'm very it's hard for me to express my emotions a lot but like I also keep a lot of things in because I always try to be positive yeah so like it it'll just like kind of crush you over time right yeah I mean even what you're saying right now like you know just the face Stu forgiving him doing uh you know being intimate with him after what you're saying you even learned as like a a coping mechanism oh for sure which makes sense yeah and i' like I said I spoke to other women about it and they were like we I did the same thing it's weird it's very weird it's like he yeah so you're saying looking back today you would have done things differently if it was me now I would be completely different yeah than I was back even I was watching that scene when you're in bed and he like breaks up with you that was really weird you were in shock of your life so was very crazy because as soon as cuz I like ran out of the house I remember and he's calling me 25 times I don't want to break up I don't want to break up none of that was even on the show like it just looks like that he left me but in reality I actually left him and I broke up with him for like three months and he he would call me like a hundred times a day over and over I went traveling with Sheena hooked up with my ex like I was doing all the things um and then eventually he won me back he won you back yeah but it was that was also a mind [ __ ] whenever he like tried to break up with me on camera after doing after embarrassing me publicly All Season it was really hard I know and like do you think that you cuz a lot of women that get betrayed like that even though they forgive if they for if they decide to stay and forgive it stays with them and it could come up in a fight five years later six years later um I was just seeing on summer house like Amanda batula brought it up to Kyle you know and or about Kyle and I'm like wow she's still there you know what I mean or even Katie seeing Katie emotional about Schwarz where like she left Schwarz she's not she doesn't give a [ __ ] about him anymore she's living her life but you could still that she still has that like emotion towards like the [ __ ] that he did yeah did you did it kind of stay with your relationship oh yeah it was hard for a very long time and I can still go there if I really want to but I try not to cuz it's like a not a low blow but it's like an easy oh yeah it's easy way to like fight with him or whatever but honestly like this goes back to Jack's not being able to communicate like we anytime I ever brought it up it was it was always shut down like I was never really able to express my emotions or how I felt throughout that whole situation because he always would shut it down I'm not GNA fight about this 247 just because the show's back on you're not and we're reliving it I'm not going to fight about it like he would always shut me down where I felt like I couldn't even talk about it that's [ __ ] up it is it's really [ __ ] up yeah So Random did you see that he liked a comment somebody left on one of his Instagram saying you should have married Stacey what he liked it he liked it yeah is that not weird very weird I know that is so creepy I know I know um okay let's talk about the valley I just want to tell people it's getting [ __ ] good it is getting good and even with the first episode I remember watching the first episode and being like okay we're not there yet but the coming scenes look really good yeah we had to introduce the new cast members you know yeah I think the introductions are always like you know cuz everybody's brand new but me Kristen and Jack right so you're like don't care don't care and then all of a sudden I'm like invest I care I care which we knew it was going to be like that even like talking to my producers and stuff they're like it gets really good it picks up and you know why do you think Jax hates Luke so much they're a lot closer now but in the beginning we just were not close and we didn't really know him he was going back and forth between Colorado and La he seemed very different than Kristen so it was yeah but I I love him now and you do you think it's GNA last I I mean I hope so yeah you never know and what's the like Kristen and Alex we hear a lot about this Alex guy we see him Jax invites him to guys did you like him yeah so Alex was actually our friend before they started dating that's why everybody's right like was also like Katie's friend yeah Schwarz everybody so he's been around for years and years and years and that's what Jack kept saying like he's my friend before you guys started dating so now that you broke up like am I supposed to not be his friend anymore yeah so that's why I got what Jax was saying more than like a viewer watching the show because they don't really realize that like he's always been around they just have never seen him before but is there a conflicting cuz on the last episode we hear like Kristen is saying he's like toxic and all these things but it sounds like there's like a different story like there's the there's two sides of stories and the truth they had definitely had a hard breakup and I was there for Kristen through all of that so like for me like I'm not going to have a party and invite Alex and Kristen at the same time right like if it was a guy's night and they're out hanging out like who cares like Kristen wasn't around and Luke is had at that point was just getting started to hang out with the guys like like I said we didn't really know him at that point yeah but now he's a lot closer to everybody so I know it looks weird yeah but like for me I also was like I was around Stacey Kristen Rachel like as soon as I came to LA you know but were you scared to start filming again in general like wait how's this going to affect the relationship our lives like a little bit a little bit just because and it kind of did though well I feel like or you don't think it's because I don't think it was because of the show it got worse when after we stopped filming like it things got worse and we were fighting all the time like it was to the point where he would leave a cabinet open and I was like freaking out like little things like that just like the ick you know so yeah and it was just I couldn't do it anymore you know I deserve to be happy you do you know you do yeah and Michelle and Jesse did they break up because of the show you think um they were already having their issues like Michelle talks about it on the show like she even in like last October wanted to separate from him and then I think like having the show also makes you like front like really head on face things that you might not like your normal dayto day yeah so I think it also just like brought out that and like how unhappy she was so how is that gonna work out if they're separated and filming and you guys it's going to be crazy be really crazy I think that they're going to like they're going to be fully done yeah yeah whereas you're not sure at all I'm not really sure but I don't I don't see us getting back anytime soon you don't wow no he's going to kill me when he watches this he is probably yeah you guys have really different Vibes about the separation it's because I because you left yeah so he's like what his ego like what's going on all of it all of it yeah but if you say tomorrow I want to come back home I just feel like things will go back to exactly how they were be happy about it I think so we don't really like some some days he's like well I'm happy like you don't see me crying like he'll say like mean crap like that and then other days he's like completely different once me to move back into the he wants me to move back into the house and live in the main bedroom and him live in the guest bedroom I'm like we are not pulling a Tom and Ariana he really wants a Tom and Ariana yeah I'm like that's not happening oh my God I'll just keep spending a [ __ ] ton of money on airbnbs until we figure out what we're going to do I mean that's also an annoying I mean cuz you're in the house still and I'm still paying for all the bills at my house house and then I have Airbnb too like you're paying half of the bills no I pay all the bills Jax pays the mortgage I pay all the bills yeah we have everything very like split up but is your name on that house yeah oh okay yep yeah I put down just as much money as Jax did to buy it yeah so you put down just as much money but he's paying the mortgage right but I pay all the bills and all the stuff for school and cruise and oh wow insurance and car and all that yeah wow so Zach is on the show your bestie he he's your bestie from home yes I've known him since College I used to cheer um at EKU for college and one of the guys that I cheered with started dating him and we just all stayed best friends so he moved to LA kind of for you he moved to LA 6 months after I did he took care of me whenever I got my boob job and are you just as close to yes I love him and everyone kind of is besties with him now yeah him and Kristen got super close yeah yeah I was like stop trying to steal my friends I know but I mean in I love it I love it that they're friends in this last episode we have some Chris drama um she she tells the girls she was angry that Jax invited um uh Alex Alex the ex to to date night and from there it's like a quick switch and she throws Janet under the bus and says before you started filming Janet calls Janet says that Michelle is a racist Republican right from there everyone's like that's not even true no it was deduced from something else some Bill that she was talking yeah I think it got like the game of telephone just made it worse and worse and worse as it went along so why how do you explain Kristen doing that like we talking about she's a veteran she knows what she's doing why would she go down that path given her history I think she was so upset about Alex being there that she just like wanted to pop something off so that all the pressure wasn't on her I don't know why she would think to talk about race at all that's why we are so upset because like to bring that up on camera after everything that's happened it was just kind of like oh my gosh like we know what that could do to somebody yeah and she even Kristen knows that Michelle isn't like that so she definitely regrets well she was hurting Michelle she thought she was hurting Janet Janet probably does she have some beef with Janet that we're not seeing yeah they have they all have beef all summer they all have yeah so maybe she was doing it to piss off Janet but she's actually like you know making her friend Michelle who looks like innocent in this situation look bad Michelle was kind of like what is happening like where is it coming from she didn't understand it was very very very weird and so with Kristen do you trust her because she even says on this episode yeah I'm a truth teller I'm in this era I say everything I don't give a [ __ ] and my thing with Kristen was always like she kind of like you say about yourself ride or die like she does give that energy about her friends I feel like me and Kristen have a lot closer relationship than she had with like Janet or Michelle or anybody like that so I do trust Kristen like I really do she's been there for me like so much especially through my separation like she's definitely been there for me so I do I honestly do TR do trust Kristen yeah you do I I don't see her popping off on me like that I really don't you would kill her yeah what does she say like what what is she saying in your ear now like is she telling you you should end it for good like what are your friends saying what's your family saying kind of everybody's just like whatever you want to do we have your back like you know they all know the story a lot of people say that I shouldn't go back with him what about your mom she's very she's just worried she's just worried she's around a lot we see her in the so does she live with you guys or she she gets to stay with me every August for the whole month oh so that's just like one month yeah so she got to stay for one month and we happened to film this year so she was also here last August as well not on but other than that how often does she come out um she'll come out normally for Cruz's birthday and like stuff like that um and then I go to Kentucky like four or five times oh you do yeah so but she gets to see a relationship like she understands so she's not like I want something better for my daughter oh yeah she definitely wants something better but she also is like whatever you need I'm here for you I support you whatever but she understands how I got to where I am for sure she sees it she I know she was she was there and I was like I wonder what she is thinking yeah she definitely sees it well like we talked about Jack says he created the show you were saying he kind of did can you give us more info on that yeah like he definitely spearheaded the show like he like went and met up with Alex Baskin and was like we're ready to come back let's do it instead of doing the the Vander pump spin-off like we were originally going to do I know it's they're still calling it a Vander pump spin-off because of me Jackson Kristen but back in the day it was supposed to be it was supposed to be all of us yeah before everything happened but now we were like let's bring fresh people in like these are all our friends for years and years anyway they just people the audience doesn't know them yet and show like who how are now what we're going through now kind of like a grown up TV I got that's where I felt like I was like very good at is I went to every single person and like kind of persuaded them to do the show yeah you know so I feel like some people probably needed less persuasion yeah some people were like all for it like yeah like Zach's like let's do it you know Jasmine's been in reality TV before so she was like pretty um excited but you know there was times whenever I had to be like this will be worth it like it's going to be a good show we were like we're going to at the beginning it was like it's going to be like about family and it's going to be like oh we're going to be very grown up and yeah I I honestly did not think we would have as much drama as we ended up having like for real for real does does Jack still have the I'm the number one guy in the group energy in this yeah but they give him [ __ ] which is nice like they're not like letting him have it even though he is like an OG and whatever yeah I think I've definitely outgrown the number one like I feel like I am the one who actually brings the whole group together you know and my friends will even say that yeah people like you more obviously like people like you more I just think I'm always the one trying to keep everybody together do you think Lala and Sheena will eventually I would so be down if they did they both they both moved to the valley recently they moved to the valley so like do you think one day like maybe that the valley would be a better home for them I mean like the valley the show yeah I would be down for it yeah you know but right now it's like I'm I'm glad that everybody's getting to know all these other people too right cuz they're doing a great job they are doing a great job I mean they're showing therapies and like the insides the inside of their lives and everything um what I was wondering the most about Jack's when thinking about everything that's happening and obviously the question of like you forgave him how did you say I want like what I want to know is like what do you love about him that we're missing that we're like that we're missing no no I don't hate him I don't I don't what are we missing that is key we know all the reason like everyone wouldn't judge you at all for leaving right they're like we get it yeah you're you put up with this for so long what are we what's the good stuff that that you love about him he just has always been my best friend like we laugh and we have so much fun together and this is hard to say right now because everything he does right now is driving me insane but in the good parts of our marriage um we just like we love to do a lot of the same things we you know it was just always like so fun he cracks me up and I was like very to me like laughter and having fun together is so important in a relationship um and then once things started like dwindling and we were barely having even the laughter anymore I was like what am I doing but I mean there's more to him than that like he actually has a bigger heart than a lot of people know like he can be like an amazing friend he he's a great father is like he's really really good with Cruz and he loves him so much um it just kind of gets overshadowed all the other dumb crap he does in the previews we see a pregnancy test were you trying for baby number too yes yeah you were I was wanting to I was definitely wanting to have another baby this summer and him and Jack he was like we had it all planned out you'll see it more on the show but like we had it all planned out that we were going to start trying at the end of the summer and the bar all kinds of things happen and you know we I don't know how much I could say because I don't want to ruin like this story but it was definitely he definitely kind of like flipped a script on me a little bit and that really upset me well people are speculating as you know the speculators they [ __ ] get on to [ __ ] really easy so they're they people are speculating that that might have been like one of the breaking points that you really wanted another I mean he was still like down I guess but it was just like not happening like we were we not even like intimate with each other so how are we going to have a baby are you taking the pressure off yourself there I mean now that sep like are you like I'm not going to worry about second baby right now no I'm not going to worry about it right now I just turned 35 I still like I still feel like I have time you do and you know whether they're he's the dad or I'm with somebody else who knows I mean we were seeing la la babies to this world owner like hey like if I really want to I can right but don't don't I think don't make that be the driving force behind you know staying or no no no definitely not like that's that's not important to me right now Cruz is like my main focus yeah so how old is he now he'll be 3 April 12th so it's almost his birthday almost his birthday I can't believe it I know you share him a little bit not like a ton yeah do you how do you feel about like sharing kids like your kids on social media um like I'll always like manage his accounts and stuff like I'm he's not going to have control account I forgot oh yeah he's got like 200,000 followers wait that's how we found didn't we find out his name before how did he know his name Tom Schwarz made moooo for everybody and posted it and it Cruz's had Cru in on it and our said like Mama and Dad D or something and he posted it not thanking and people of course about that we were upset yeah cuz it was our first baby like that stuff is like private to us and we wanted to be the ones to be able to share it he sent me flowers and everything he he felt so bad he didn't even like think about it like that cuz he just thought he was posting like the little MooMoo and I was like but it literally said cruising dud wouldn't understand like I know I know he was like in it like I don't think he did it like on Purpose By Any Means so but yeah that was a whole thing so you're you're okay with sharing Cru on social media and like people can be like annoying about kids too yeah oh I've people like already say stuff about Cruz because he's like has a speech delay and I've been super open about that because I also feel like as a mom and like I've got this form like I want to share my experience and help other women that are going through it because I never thought I would go through something like that you think everything's just going to be perfect you know so we're in speech therapy occupational therapy he's in school now like you know you share about that and what people still criticize people just don't they're there like why isn't he talking or this or this or that and I or they try to diagnose yeah they try to diagnose him from their armchairs and that is like super annoying right cuz he's in everything that he should be in and he's an amazing little kid he's super smart even though he's not talking much like he is incredibly smart so you know but I just like to share those things because I know other women are going through it too yeah something you don't expect right and every kid really does develop so differently yeah um so that's good that you're yeah the tough part too is that we all had kids together so they're all constantly compared to each other yeah and that could be weird who else is the same age as Cruz or all like sa's daughter Hartford summer o summer sheena's daughter and O la oh they're all [ __ ] the same age way though girls do Advance way faster than boys you know in general um okay you were in Malibu with Ariana's brother yes there are rumors that he hasn't talked to Ariana in months is there anything you can say about that um I think those rumors are true yeah I'm not sure what's really going on there I didn't really get to talk to Ariana about it last night she's been so busy and um but I think that there's something going on there and they have like a little riff but they brother and sister they'll get back like Scandal aside yeah they not Scandal no no no no but they'll get they'll be fine they're they're family and regarding Ariana in that sense like do you sense cuz you're not in Vander pump anymore you're like an you're looking from the outside right do you think that the girls can genuinely be happy for her success or like it'll always be meddled with like jealousy cuz you're all doing the same thing you're you all kind of want the same things and she's getting she's getting it right now I mean I think it's obvious there's a little bit of jealousy going on in that show yeah um I mean I'm definitely happy for her and I'm and I know that they're all happy for her I think that everybody's just like well why did why isn't this happening to me you know type God I saw the Mina sapril fools you guys that was like somebody did like a Photoshop TMZ that sheina is going to be on Dancing With the Stars I know and I believed it for a second and I was like that's so mean my goodness yeah like like Sheena for instance she's definitely happy for Ariana but there's you know you can still be happy for somebody and want to do those things too I remember when Stacey was on the show you know and I remember being at like Bravo con and people would always openly talk about like well Stacey's the most famous or Stacey's like you know the most followed or the I was like how are people saying that would piss me off as a cast member at the end of the day you're an ensemble and everyone wants like to be you know loved and everything so so that's why also think about that I'm like there's no way it's just pure like we're just happy for her like you know there has to be a lot of jealousy involved I mean I'm sure I'm sure there is yeah and Lala is the only one that kind of you know goes out and says it yeah and says and says like not only the the good stuff I feel like um well I know that they've also been upset because people say things behind the scenes and then don't and don't say it on the C on camera so I think that's been an issue also season long for them on B P love breaking the fourth wall yeah I mean LA's super open about it and the after show and everything like she like them I know that's why whatever the thing that I say about La the most is like even when she's wrong like you still love her you know what I mean like she could be so wrong she could be like hypocritical in a moment and you're like well you're right when you're wrong you're right um so Katie and Stacey used to be so close with them they kind of steep away from the Friendship a little bit did they come back around with the separation did they check in neither one of them has reached out to me no what why would there be like beef like that between there's not there's definitely not like if I see Saucy or Katie like we're fine like we'll talking we like we'll give each other a hug and all this but like it's not like reaching out to me or anything what like what happened I have no idea I mean I know that we didn't go to Stacey's wedding and that was like a big deal but Katie absolutely no reason why she wouldn't be talking to me like we've never had an argument ever had a fight do you think Katie just took I mean Katie is like yeah on on this season she's like riding for Ariana and fighting with laala do you think she just because of Stacey's wedding is I think because of that and I think that she doesn't like Jax either so I think Jax was a big wedge in between me and Stacey and Katie yeah well I hope you all become friends again oh yeah I still love them especially like I Miss Stacey a lot you do oh yeah yeah so you regret not going to the wedding that was a huge part between me and Jack that like nobody knows about like it we we W like it was bad yeah you wanted to go oh yeah why didn't he want to go he's Jack he didn't just on purpose like a thing like I mean there was there was other uh circumstances that happened like yeah my son's passport didn't come in in time my mom's best friend's husband passed away so she had to fly back anyway there was like a lot of different things cuz she was coming with me to it to Italy my mom was to watch Cruz so Cruz could come yeah so there was like a lot of different things that actually happened but but C Jax was like messing things up like riding in group chats and like stsy and Bo were in them and like they were finding out about it and like I had no was he jealous like what I don't know but like I had no idea he was doing that so then like that to them it looks like me and Ja are planning on not coming and this and that but like I had no idea Jax was doing those things so I think Jax just put a big wedge in between everybody do you regret not going oh for sure like now I was so Cruz was so young still that I had never left him you wouldn't have left him with your mom at home and gone by yourself well cuz it was like 14 it was like a long like eight 8 to 14 days or something I can't remember yeah yeah so it was like now I know that he would have been fine and I could have went but at that time like I had never left him by by myself so it was just like I can't leave him yeah you know but now I would be fine going cuz I know he'll be okay let you and Stacey become friends again if that's important no cuz it's stupid to not be friends over something like that especially if like this is another situation we Jacks it's his fault exactly it's all his fault brennie you're the best thank you and I really wish you all the best and know that everyone supports you and wants the best for you and you're hot and beautiful and a great person and you deserve somebody great thank you I appreciate it thanks for having me for

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