British Airways PILOT GETS ANGRY with KENNEDY CONTROLLER!
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Length: 2min 36sec (156 seconds)
Published: Sun Sep 29 2019
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This happens quite a lot and pushes pilots to redefine what stabilized criteria is. We’re trained to fly a speed that would be safe and appropriate on an approach. Many congested airports keep us so tight if we fly +/- 5 kts they will know and mess up spacing for the 100 airplanes coming in a 80 airplane/hr airport. That said we don’t go over there and complain about guaranteed holding at LHR. They should understand this is how we deal with over saturated airports and take it up with the government. Like that would happen. So we bicker amongst ourselves. He can refuse it all day but know that it really puts a kink in the NYC metro area airport system. Flying fast and putting on the brakes right at final is almost impossible sometimes so that is the main issue.
I fly out of Newark on B757/767.
I'm not a controller, but from what I can tell watching the video, he was following proper procedure and she got butthurt about the (polite) refusal to deviate from that procedure in order to maintain the safety of his ship and passengers. Then, she retaliated by circling him out of the landing sequence when other measures to accommodate the traffic behind him would have been more appropriate.
They seem to have a lot of go-arounds at SFO. 50% of the time I see a go-around it's a BA 747 (the other half tend to be random A320s...)