Bohr Model: A Delightful History [CC]

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I have a professor from Denmark at my university and his professor was a student of Nils Bohr. These stories are not as long ago as they feel like. We gathered so much knowledge in such a short time, it's crazy when you think about it.

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This is great. Looking forward to watching more of your videos!

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This was absolutely lovely!

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Very nice, well researched and well told video! Must have taken a long time to compose - I appreciate the effort. I learned a lot of fascinating history.

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"The Boring World of Niels Bohr" r/simpsonsdidit

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Very enlightening and entertaining! I just an hour earlier finished watching a 3 episode series called Atom on Amazon Prime and it was great to learn more details through your video!

It’s utterly amazing to me how many brilliant physicists there were in the early 1900s who literally created the foundation and paradigmatic shift in our understanding of the world and cosmos.

Crazier to me is the fact that in the history of our time on Earth, this quantum leap in understanding began barely 100 years ago and look at the rapid advancements (both impressive and scary) we have made as a result of these brilliant minds in this short amount of time.

It makes me wonder what might we learn or accomplish in the next 100, or 1000 years as a result of this foundation.

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wow, thanks!

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- Niels Bohr said later in his life that back in 1913, almost nobody thought that the colors of light that you get from burning hydrogen would tell you anything about physics even though they follow a pattern. He said it was just like butterflies have patterns with color on their wings, but, "nobody thought one could get the basis of biology from the coloring on the wings of a butterfly." However, in February 1913, 27-year-old Niels Bohr read a book about the spectral lines of hydrogen and everything clicked. Within weeks, he wrote a paper that revolutionized physics. Ready for the story? Let's go. β™ͺ Electricity, electricity β™ͺ β™ͺ Electricity, electricity β™ͺ I like to start two years before then, in September 1911, when 25-year-old Niels Bohr went to Cambridge. He was so excited, he wrote his fiancee Margrethe that he "rejoiced" when he, "happened to read the address Cambridge over the door." Bohr was thrilled with the opportunity to work in a top-notch department with the incomparable JJ Thomson, who had discovered the electron 14 years earlier, and his dizzying array of influential students. Instead, it was a total disaster. The students didn't want to talk to a mumbling Dane with weird ideas and his relationship with JJ Thomson started on the wrong foot. Because on the very first day, Niels Bohr went to Thomson with a copy of one of Thomson's books, opened it up, and told the Nobel Prize winner in halting English, "This is wrong." Bohr actually thought this first conversation went well, but after a few weeks, it became clear that it didn't go so well. And he wrote his brother Harold, "Thomson has so far not been as easy to deal with as I had thought on the first day. He has not yet had time to read my paper, and I do not know if he will accept my criticism." For the next three months, Bohr was miserable and mostly alone. Then on December 6, 1911, his life changed when JJ Thomson had this annual dinner for his current and former students. This was a strangely raucous affair. I mean, it was a formal dinner with formal attire and 10 courses, but also people would stand on tables and chairs and sing limericks and songs about physics and about Cambridge. β™ͺ Oh my darlings, oh my darlings β™ͺ β™ͺ Oh my darlings, ions mine β™ͺ β™ͺ You are lost and gone forever β™ͺ β™ͺ When just once you recombine β™ͺ So yeah, physicists were dorks then, too. We didn't just invent it. And for dessert, they serve plum pudding. This was also a dorky physics joke because the accepted view of atoms came from JJ Thomson and was called the plum pudding model where Thomson imagined that the negative electrons were like the raisins, or if you're British, the plums, in a sea of positive pudding. However, this was a slightly controversial dorky joke as Thomson's former student, Ernest Rutherford was there. And nine months earlier, Rutherford had proposed a new model for atoms, which was not food related, and which Rutherford thought was, "superior to JJ's". At this time, Rutherford was only 40 years old, but he had already discovered alpha and beta radiation, discovered the half-life of radiation, and use that to suggest a method to determine the age of the earth that we still use, and determine that radiation can change the atomic number of a material, for which he won a Nobel Prize, and had accidentally determined that alpha particles can bounce off thin pieces of metal. Whew! Rutherford is amazing. Anyway, that accidental discovery that alpha particles can bounce off thin pieces of metal sometimes was what made Rutherford think that the plum model wouldn't work. Rutherford realized that the scattering of alpha particles "must be the result of a single collision. And when I made calculations, I saw it was impossible unless you took a system in which the greater part of the mass of the atom was concentrated in a minute nucleus." This is why on March 7th, 1911, Rutherford wrote a paper where he assumed that atoms were composed with, "a positive charge Ne at the center and surrounded by a distribution of negative electricity Ne uniformly distributed within a sphere of radius R." By the way, Rutherford wasn't wedded to this whole idea of the electrons being uniformly distributed as he also mentioned the work of a Japanese scientist named Hantaro Nagaoka, who had made a Saturn model of the atom, where the electrons were in a ring around a positive center. Honestly, Rutherford really wasn't that concerned about the electrons. Anyway, Rutherford's model was almost universally disliked and ignored. For one thing, it made solids not very solid For example, if an atom was expanded to be the size of a cathedral, the nucleus with 99.9997% of the weight would be the size of a fly. Moreover, Rutherford's atom had a significant physics problem. Opposites attract, so what keeps the negative electrons from being sucked into the positive nucleus? Even if the electrons are spinning around the nucleus like planets, they would be accelerating charges. Spinning is a form of acceleration, which should, according to Maxwell's laws, be creating electromagnetic waves, which would cause the electrons to lose energy and spiral into the nucleus. In other words, according to the laws of classical physics, Rutherford's atom should just implode. Not surprisingly, JJ Thomson was particularly displeased with this model and the students that Cambridge followed suit. In 1962, Bohr was asked if he was the only person at Cambridge who responded well to Rutherford's atom. And he replied, "Yes, but you see, I did not even respond to it, I just believed it." At that dinner in December 1911, Bohr realized starkly that he was working for the wrong man. Here was the physics and the physicist that he needed. It didn't hurt that Papa Rutherford was a big, loud, exuberant New Zealander, described by contemporary as "always a charming blend of boy, man, and genius." Bohr sheepishly asked JJ Thomson if he could spend some time in Manchester with Rutherford to learn a little bit about radioactivity, and Thomson let him but made him stay in Cambridge for the winter term. By March 1912, Bohr had moved to Manchester and wrote his brother that he was working "in a lab full of characters from all parts of the world, working with joy under the energetic and inspiring influence of the great man." After a few weeks of working in this laboratory, that was very well run, Bohr decided that experimental work just wasn't for him, and told Rutherford that he would like "to concentrate on theoretical things" and basically never experimented in any laboratory again. Rutherford usually hated theoreticians, but he made an exception for Bohr because he thought Bohr was brilliant, and also because Bohr was really good soccer player and Rutherford respected that. Anyway, at the time, Bohr was fascinated to learn about the Solvay Conference that Rutherford had gone to in October of 1911. At this conference, it became clear to everyone that quantum ideas were here to stay. As a scientist, Marcel Brillouin said at the conference, "From now on, we will have to introduce into our physical and chemical ideas a discontinuity, something that changes in jumps, of which we had no notion at all a few years ago." Brillouin was a little late to the game as Max Planck and Albert Einstein had these ideas more than a few years by this time. How to introduce quantum ideas and how to make it work with atoms, no one, even Einstein, knew. In fact, Einstein started to joke that quantum ideas would drive you crazy and told a friend that, "The h-disease looks ever more hopeless." According to Bohr, Rutherford wasn't that interested in what he heard at the Solvay Conference and just said it is odd. But Bohr, once again, just believed. In mid-July. Bohr wrote Rutherford (in the reverse of Einstein) that you needed quantum theories to describe atoms as, "It seems hopeless," with only classical mechanics. By the end of July, Bohr returned to Denmark and to his fiancee Margrethe Noland. A small comment about their relationship, because I think it's important for understanding how Niels Bohr worked. So when Bohr was depressed at Cambridge, he wrote his fiancee a letter, worried that she wouldn't be interested in his work, and she replied, "Oh, dear Niels, I cannot at all describe to you how much I love you and how much I love your work, and I cannot distinguish you from it. And I cannot at all describe to you how much I long for the future, for being allowed to help you a little sometime if only I can." Niels Bohr was elated by this response and wrote her a letter asking her for her help. "To try to lead a great and active life. My head is so full of plans, and they are all, all of them, based on you." They married in August of 1912, and Niels Bohr would dictate all of his paper and Margrethe Bohr would edit them, transcribe them, and be a source of logic and sanity. Even after they had six sons together and he got an assistant, nothing could be published without Margrethe's approval. Anyway, soon after the marriage in September 1912, Bohr recalled that he, "Went into the country with my wife and we wrote a very long paper on these various things." However, it didn't go very well. And Bohr wrote Rutherford that he was facing "some serious trouble" with the work and nothing productive happened for months. Then in February 1913, Bohr was discussing some of his theories with a colleague and the colleague asked him how it worked with the spectral lines from burning hydrogen. Bohr was astonished. He had forgotten that there were equations for how light was emitted from various glowing gas. It turns out the back in 1885, a 60-year-old school teacher named Johann Balmer had noticed that the frequency of light from glowing hydrogen follow the geometric pattern where the frequency depends on the difference of the reciprocal of two integers squared. Amazingly, Bohr didn't know, or had forgotten, about this empirical formula, meaning a formula based on experiment with no theoretical backing, until he read about it in February 1913. Years later, he recalled, "As soon as I saw Balmer's formula, the whole thing was immediately clear to me." In less than four weeks, Niels and Margrethe Bohr banged out one of the most influential papers of all times. In this paper, Bohr started with one electron and assumed it was going in a circle or a shell around the nucleus, where the electron is limited, and that it can only be at certain set distances from the nucleus where the lowest energy corresponding to the closest to the nucleus is now called the ground state. What about the problem of the spinning electron radiating out energy and then spiraling into the nucleus? Well, Bohr just declared it didn't happen. Really, this was described by Bohr's biographer as, "One of the most audacious postulates ever seen in physics. [Bohr] simply declared that the ground state is stable, thereby contravening all knowledge about radiation available up 'til then." Bohr then made two more radical assumptions. First, he assumed that the electron was spinning around the nucleus with an energy equal to an integer times Planck's constant times the frequency of spinning divided by two. Why divided by two? Well, he gave an awkward explanation. Years later he said that was confusing because of the, "stupidity of the way of writing it." His words, not mine. Don't get mad at me. But he said it had to do with averaging the energy that was zero once the electron was free. He also might've divided by two because then the results worked amazingly well for the hydrogen spectrum, and he backtracked to find a reasoning that would make sense. With this assumption and equations for electrical force and electric energy, Bohr could determine the position of the electron as a function of fundamental constants, and Bohr got that the radius of electrons is a constant times an integer squared. So the possible radiuses would be r, 4r, 9r, 16r, I think you get the pattern. As the distances depend on an integer squared, And the energy depends on one over the distance, the energy depends on one over an integer squared. Bohr made one more assumption, this one even more radical than the others. He decided energy of the light, the radiation, came not from the energy of the electron, but from the change in energy when it jumped in a quantum leap from one shell to the other. This was an absolutely new and radical idea, so crazy that when Einstein heard about it, Einstein admitted that, "He had one similar ideas, but he did not dare publish them." With these assumptions, it was a basic physics problem to make the change in energy equal Planck's constant times the frequency of light emitted and get an equation for the frequency of light that is possible to be emitted from a hydrogen atom. Bohr not only gotten the equation from fundamental ideas that fit the hydrogen spectrum equation, he also derived the constant in front, called the Rydberg constant from fundamental constants. But Bohr wasn't done yet. It turned out that he could use his equation to explain a mystery of spectroscopy called the Pickering series, which was a series of shadows from a star that looked like half of the hydrogen lights. Now, in order to tell the Pickering series, I'm gonna tell you the little bit of the backstory because it's fabulous. The Pickering series was actually discovered by a woman named Williamina Fleming. Now Williamina was a school teacher in Scotland, and then when she was 21 years old, she moved to Boston. But then after two years in Boston, her husband left her pregnant and alone and destitute. Luckily, she got a job as a maid to Edward Pickering, a professor of astronomy at Harvard. The story goes that one day Pickering was complaining to his wife that his assistants were so bad his maid could do a better job. And his wife said, "Actually, you have a maid who could do a really good job. Give Williamina Fleming a chance." And he did. Pickering was amazed to find that Fleming was a naturally fantastic astronomer. And by 1881, after the birth of Fleming's son, Edward Pickering Fleming, he hired her as his assistant. In 1886, Pickering was given a moderately large sum of cash by the widow of another astronomer named Henry Draper to use photographic spectroscopy to catalog as many stars as possible. The next year, Pickering put Williamina Fleming in charge of the project, and she hired an army of women to study the stars. Pickering specifically wanted women as they were cheaper than men, and he wanted to prove to the world that women could make scientific discoveries. Pickering called the women his computers as they computed thing, but his rivals called them his harem. Anyway, while cataloging the spectrums from over 10,000 stars, as well as discovering four new stars and discovering white dwarves, she noticed something strange with one star. It had an odd spectrum. It seemed to have only half the hydrogen lines and Pickering and Fleming published an article called "Stars Having Peculiar Spectra" in 1896. The following year, Pickering published that these lines were from hydrogen that followed a half integer transition level. Fast forward to 1913, Niels Bohr realized that these spectral lines could be explained if they came from ionized helium, meaning helium with only one electron instead of the usual two, where, because the helium has two protons instead of one, that would multiply the possible frequencies by two squared and one would no longer need the halves in the equation. By March 6, 1913, Niels Bohr sent his paper to Rutherford to have it published in England, and Rutherford had mixed feelings, writing Bohr, "Your ideas are very ingenious and seem to work well, but the mixture of Planck's ideas with old mechanics make it very difficult to form a physical idea of what is at the basis of it all." Yeah, that is a problem with quantum mechanics, isn't it? After Bohr visited Rutherford in April to hash out the details, Bohr published the first of his three papers on this model in July of 1913, and it was the talk of the town for every physicist. Niels Bohr's brother Harold was in Germany at the time and told Niels that everyone wanted a copy of the paper, but most found it a little too radical for their tastes. A scientist named Carl Runge's sighed, "Well, Bohr is such a nice man and so intelligent, but this man has become completely crazy. This is the sheerest nonsense." Eventually, he would change his mind and they would become close friends. But not everyone hated Bohr's paper on site. Many young scientists were very excited about it. One of Bohr's only friends from Cambridge, a man named Georg de Hevesy, happened to be in Berlin at the time and talked to Einstein. And Albert Einstein told Hevesy that if Bohr's theory was right, it "is of the greatest importance." According to Hevesy, when Hevesy told Einstein about the results with helium and the Pickering lines, the "big guys of Einstein's looked still bigger," and Einstein remarked, "Then the frequency of light does not depend at all on the frequency of the electron. This is an enormous achievement! The theory of Bohr must be right." Later in Einstein's life, Einstein recalled that in 1913, "All my attempts to adapt the theoretical foundation of physics to this quantum knowledge had failed completely, [which is why] Bohr's theory appeared to me like a miracle and appears to me as a miracle even today. This is the highest form of musicality in the sphere of thought." It's important to note that no one, including Bohr, thought this was a complete theory. It was obviously a makeshift theory that barely worked with one electron, but it gave a path forward. And the idea that radiation is due to quantum change in energy is a fundamental concept of physics that is still used to this day. Still, Bohr knew that spinning electrons do radiate energy. So what's going on with the electron? By 1927, with the help of Heisenberg's uncertainty principle, Bohr came up with his answer: you can't ask that question. You can't ask what the electron is or what the electron is doing. You can only ask what can you measure about an electron. This viewpoint, currently called the Copenhagen interpretation, is the most commonly taught interpretation of quantum mechanics, and Einstein hated it. It quickly became a huge debate between these two friends, involving God playing dice, spooky action at a distance, a disappearing moon, and a cat that maybe is alive and maybe is dead. The great Bohr-Einstein debate is next time on the Lightning Tamers. Thanks for watching my video. If you're interested in more details about Rutherford, or JJ Thomson, or the history of radiation, or Einstein, or Max Planck, I made a lot of videos, you can go check them out. I'll see you next week. As usual, a big thank you to my patrons. Thank you, patrons. If you wanna be thanked too, there's a link down below. And don't forget, put a thumbs up, share it on social media, put a comment, even if you're just saying "Hi, Kathy." Hi! And also, obviously, I'm gonna make a video about Williamina Fleming. I just learned about her two days ago, and Pickering and his harem of female human computers because... Yeah, that's pretty cool, and I love that stuff. Okay, you stay safe out there, okay? Bye!
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