Body cam video shows verbal exchange with police after sheriff called 911 on Black newspaper carrier

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[BLANK_AUDIO] 5, Boy William, boy, 5870 >> Hey, keep your hands where I can see, hands on steering wheel, is that what you coming over here for? >> Yeah, that's why we're coming over here. Okay. >> I'm suspicious. >> No cuz he called, saying that- >> I don't care what he called for, he's following me. >> Okay, we'll see- >> Go talk to him, I don't want you to figure out nothing, I am working. >> We will figure out- >> I am working. >> Okay. >> I'm a black male ,in a white neighborhood and I'm working. >> This has nothing to do with that, >> Yes it does, he is following me. >> Okay >> The fuck. >> He's getting out of the way, okay. >> Okay, he's still following me. We will figure that out. >> Yeah, get the fuck away from me, I don't care how many cops show up. He's following me. I don't give a fuck,I know he's a fucking cop.What the fuck. How many cops, for a fucking newspaper carrier?Oh, you guys are some badasses, I swear to God you are badasses. >> Stop reaching for stuff dude. >> I'm not reaching for shit. >> Then don't keep your hands on the steering whee. >> My hands have been moved off the steering wheel. >> Okay, can I explain it? >> No, I don't need nothing to be explained to me. I'm being followed, he called the cops.Congratulations. >> Yes, >> I'm coming to him from my house. He's committing a crime, he's black, he's black, he's black. Oh,I'm doing my fucking paper route. >> Okay, I understand that,I see all the papers in your car. >> Yeah, congratulations. >> He just called saying that someone threatened his life, that's why we're here.Okay? >> Yeah, I threatened his life because I walked up to him and asked him why he's following me. >> You're not under arrest, and step out of the car. >> I don't need to be under arrest, I don't,I'm gonna come out,thats dumb. >> Appreciate it. >> Your gonna arrest me? >> No I'm not gonna arrest, come sit down here, okay. >> I'm working. >> Sit on the bumper,Anything else Antonio? No one's got shit on me.I'm working. >> We're gonna inspect,okay? gosh, I've got a fucking knife in my car. That's fine, I don't care about what's in the car. >> To cut my straps on my newspaper. >> All right,okay. >> Nothing,we don't need nothing. Nothing officer, what do we here for? What are we here for? Search my car, there's fucking newspapers. This is the second time shit happened to me. >> What's your first name sir? >> Cedric, all the time. >> Okay, Cedric Okay, we just got a call saying that- >> I'm in danger, That's a fucking lie. Now what happens to him?He's lying. That's why we're here.Okay? >> He's lying, so what happens to him, what happens to a liar? >> We'll figure it out. >> To get four cops here, how many cops cars are here? Cedric, Cedric. >> For a newspaper carrier? >> Cedric. >> I don't need to talk. So making no fucking sense, I'm not under arrest, right? >> Your not under arrest, >> Okay, I can go right? >> No you're not free to go either. >> Why can't I go? I'm not under arrest, who's the sergeant? Who's the sergeant around. >> The sergeant is on his way, okay. >> Thank you. Please, I'm not under arrest right. I'm going back to work right, >> No your not leaving right now, but you're now under arrest, okay. Okay. Do you want me to put you in handcuffs, right now? >> Putting me in handcuffs for what? >> Cedric, Cedric. >> Cuz I'm talking? >> Right now I'm just talking man to man, trying to figure out what's going on, okay? >> It's not a man to man conversation.Go talk to him. This one so endangered, he's danger, I got weapons. I got weapons. >> Cedric, do you see how calm I am? >> And throw a fucking newspaper on him. >> Do you see how calm I am? >> I pulled into his driveway, If I pulled into your driveway I'm obviously your carrier. >> Cedric,just talk to me a little bit. >> There's nothing to talk about. >> Did you guys have any verbal altercation? >> He's following me. >> Okay. >> I've walked into his car because he came around the block again for the third time, I approached him. Why are you following me? >> Okay. >> Because I'm a black male, in a white neighborhood?Oh where are you at? I'm on the North end.Oh you don't know where you're at? My wife is black, I don't care. >> That's often what we're trying to get to is, what happened between you guys that made him course- >> I am working, I am driving a bucket and I'm in a nice neighborhood, I'm working, I'm over here every night, I see you guys every night, nobody messes with me. But a car that sees a bucket in the neighborhood on the wrong side of the street, throwing a paper off the fucking window, he's suspicious. He pulls up to another house, he's going to steal a fucking Amazon package off that porch. Check my car, got 15 Amazon packages in the trunk. >> Cedric, I'm not saying you stealing anything, he's not saying you stealing anything. He just said there was an altercation, that's why we're here, okay? >> You guys can be doing so much over there. You guys had one officer,oh you're following a newspaper carrier. >> I wanna be 100% honest to you,cuz the reason for sending the cops here is because he's the sheriff >> I'm not gonna say that. >> I know who he is, I know exactly who he is. >> He said someone threatened his life,he had no clue who you are. >> He said he's threatened?. He's so threatened, I knew he was a fucking cop, I'm over here every night. Six days a week. >> We're counts please. >> He's not our [INAUDIBLE] Okay? >> Thank you. So, we're totally getting you out of this.we're just trying to figure out what's going on.That's why there's so many people here. >> Okay. >> Okay, you're not in handcuffs, your not in trouble right now. >> Okay. >> I know I'm not in trouble, I am working. >> But until we figure it everything else,make sure everything's covered.Okay? You have to talk to us,If you don't talk to us- >> It's a big investigation. >> You see them leave. >> Everybody needs to leave. >> You guys need a walking him home, follow him home. He needs help, he needs assistance, I got 200 fucking papers, I'm not worried about him. I'm trying to get home. Fuck, I got plenty in the car. I was supposed to be home by 3:30,you guys are slowing me down. >> Okay. >> Sir, did you ever threaten any sort of violence? >> No, what am I threatening him for? >> That's what- >> I feel threatened,I'm followed. >> Did he make- >> Just because I walked up on him, I threated him? >> Did he make any threats to you? >> Nobody made no threats. >> Okay. >> That's a lie, if I made a threat, I'll tell you, but I didn't. I didn't even go to him angry, I just wanted to know why he was following me. >> That's a- >> Simple. >> So, what this looks like is a big case of misunderstanding.Okay? He thinks you're doing something, and you think he's doing something.Okay? >> Because I didn't answer none of his questions, he says he's in danger. >> You're a Sheriff, you're so in danger. >> Cedric,stop.Okay, that's not gonna help. >> Damn as hell. >> you are not gonna help the cops getting out of here, without him getting him pissed off.Okay? >> what, you're gonna arrest me cuz he lied,? >> No, I'm just asking you to Just, not yell at him, okay. Alright? >> He seen me pull out, to how many houses? >> I mean that's just- >> I know you'fe a paper delivery ,okay. >> We pulled over so many paper delivery people because, yes, its weird when we see them in the middle of the night go house to house, and people always call you guys, right? You always had cops drive by you, sometimes get pulled over sometimes you don't. Once you realize how you did with the papers,that's how you do your job.Okay?Obviously, he didn't realize that you're doing your job.okay? Papers, bags hanging in the window, how you not see that?Real tenants are not hiding nothing from windows are clearly down. >> Once we make sure everything's talk to him >> To make sure that it's functional,I'm talking to you to give your side,and they're talking to him to give his side.Okay?That's exactly what is going on. You want me to write it down? >> No I belive you.Okay? So as soon as I can get you back driving, begin to work. >> Make your money, okay, I'm gonna let you go.Okay? >> How long is that gonna take? >> It's hopefully just a couple of minutes. >> What are we waiting for? >> We're waiting them to talk to him and figure out what's his side of the story. >> What do you mean talk to him for, he's following me, just because he made a call. >> Yeah ,cuz you are, the two of you. >> So, if I would have made the call, you Feds ,would you let me go? >> You two are involved so that's why we're getting both_ >> Involved in what,a car following me? If it's a Sheriff, somebody has a gun on him? >> If it's as simple as that ,yeah.Okay? I understand this is taking long,I appreciate you been quiet.Okay? >> How many times you gonna look in my car, I ain't no weapons in there. That's a [INAUDIBLE] >> What are we searching my car for? There's nothing in there. Not searching your car, looking from the outside there. >> You looking for drugs?Looking for anything? Don't do drugs, I just work. I'm just working, that's my work car. [BLANK_AUDIO] >> How much longer do you gonna do this for? >> I just started, losing another an hour and a half, about to finish my first section, about to go to the second. >> Did he, did he tell you to stay her,e or did you just stay here? >> I stay here because he just following me, I'm going to my houses I don't want him to know where all my houses are. >> So you just wait for me one night? So why did you say to us who he was? I recognized him.He's been on TV. >> That's good. >> As soon as I walked up to him, I was like, yeah, you're a cop. But I know where he lives, because I'm over here every night. I've seen him, I see his wife every morning going to work. When I'm late, this is why, I come out here through park and never get fucked with. I come out here at one o'clock, be early, try to hurry up and get home,I get fucked with. That's why the people are out still? >> I guess so. >> I get it, I get it. >> I guess I got to wait till three o'clock every day, sometimes to tell myself I don't wanna be late. >> Hopefully you don't have to do that. Hopefully, get your stuff done when you need to get it done, but right now, we're just getting you guys side of the story figured out. [SOUND] >> Do you have any idea why he said that you made threats? >> Dude, I asked him if he was a cop, that's the first question I asked him. Okay, I didn't make no threat. Like I said, I just wanna know why he's following me. >> Okay. >> Like I said, we passed each other, okay.Right? >> Did he turn around and come? >> Yeah, turned around, came back, okay. So I pulled then right behind him, went to my house, and then. >> Ny God stop talking [BLANK_AUDIO] I'm just talking with the other other guy right now. [SOUND] No, we ran into each other, three times, he's obviously following me. >> I was walking back from my house, when he was coming down street. So, I just came across, and just asked him a couple questions, he roll down the window. We had a conversation. It wasn't like who's, I got the gun on my car. I'm gonna shoot you. And you now start following me. >> Did he ask why he's following you? >> I have five kids. I'm not trying to go to jail, I've already been in jail, and it's just not fun. [BLANK_AUDIO] >> All right, thank you. >> And can you, Cedric, can you not say anything as you drive past, okay? >> Yeah I'm actually going back. >> That;s perfect. >> I have to go in this way
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Channel: The News Tribune
Views: 4,391,034
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Keywords: Black newspaper carrier, Ed Troyer, Pierce County Sheriff, Tacoma police, body camera, local, news
Id: ft9o-B19n4U
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Length: 11min 9sec (669 seconds)
Published: Fri Apr 23 2021
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