Bird Photography Chat With Jan Wegener The Bird Whisperer and Duade Paton The Bald Dude

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today and welcome to the channel in today's video I have a chat with good mate and fellow bird photographer Yarn Wagner we talk about all things bird photography related with a focus on editing images yarn was actually one of the very first people I admired online I remember when I started out I saw his images and just thought how did he get those images so so much better than anything I could take so his images were kind of a catalyst for me to learn and grow and try and figure out how to achieve similar images I've been very fortunate that over the years I've met yarn last year we went on a trip with another mate into the Mallee area of Victoria and we got some really good shots including major Mitchell's and other things yarns actually got a video on his YouTube channel of our adventures so feel free to check that out if you're not aware of who yarn is he goes by the nickname of the bird Whisperer and that's because of his ability to photograph rare and hard to photograph birds he's photographed a lot of parrots and different birds that have notoriously difficult to photograph yarns also got a very successful YouTube channel of his own and has a large following on social media I'll put all the links below if you want to know further information about it so one thing that makes yarn stand out this is attention to detail as images always look really good and it's obvious to me that he really knows what he's doing when it comes to editing lucky for us yarn has actually released a masterclass on hitting and it's available for purchase off his website he goes into a lot of detail about how he processes images and I have been fortunate to watch it and learnt a lot while doing so I highly suggest making a cuppa sit back and enjoy our chat all right get a yarn thanks for joining me today maybe we could just start with you telling me about how you got into bed photography and your journey so far I was always interested in birds over time I kind of developed an interest in photography as well I managed to buy my first keyboard was Ken and 20 D and a first version 100 to fournette millimeter lens and so that was kind of my first venture into sort of real nature photography over time I got a 500 millimeter lens and that's when it sort of started to become really serious graded to six and a mil lens and that's where I'm at now but a couple photos you've shared with me oh that you took with your 20 d the first one is a common McGann's I think and that was near my house and building in Germany and I was like so stoked finally I got like so close to a bird enough I was pretty proud with of the picture back then now I look at it know my people so good behavior though it's catching a fish of some sort yeah but obviously you'd want a much lower angle now and a lot of other things but that's I think how we all start I think people forget that they see my pictures now on the Internet and some are assume that's the kind of pictures that I always took but that's really not the case I think for everyone who does photography it would be the same for you sure you start out in a certain way and you start out with not knowing anything really we all start with no knowledge essentially and we just have to then teach ourselves how to get better and for me it was just always looking at other people's images that I aspire to take and then trying to figure out what they were doing and eventually getting me yeah no you've definitely got there that's for sure you've said a few of your photos with me what are you trying to achieve in the shots now so what are you actually trying to capture or what are you trying to get in the photos well it's an interesting question because I guess a lot of my style and how I take images because kind of developed over time and what I want to do now is I think is just bring the nice colors and vibrancy of nature to people and just show people how I see nature how I experience nature and that's very vibrant and bright and lively and that's why I edit my images the way I edit them and I take them the way I take them so I'd love to have the bird really be the hero of the shot where people can really appreciate all the details all the colors and then I like to frame it with a nice perch to just add a bit of that sort of natural element to it and then you know from all my images the background is kind of just the colour but that's what appeals to me because I can kind of eliminate the background to the point that it just complements the image but doesn't distract from it and I think that's kind of what I try to achieve now with that sort of style of photography than I do yeah we can see it in this Western spine little shot that you've shared the bird looks fantastic awesome calling pose and it's obviously a native and a Western Australian plant those beautiful pink flowers so that obviously puts all those components you're talking about together and that shot yeah and I think that's just something that I'd try to achieve did you have the bird but also not just on a stick I know that's kind of the classic thing to bird on a stick that can work sometimes as well especially if it's a stunning bird but a tiny little bird like that spine bill it obviously looks the best if there's some nice pretty flowers with it or something that unlike a big log wouldn't quite look the same got this black cockatoo and waa on a grass tree which is obviously a fantastic image and one that you just have to be in the right place I'm assuming when that to take that one yeah that's one for instance that you can't plan at all even if you go there now the chance that you actually see one of these cockroaches perch on a grass tree like this it's probably almost none it's definitely one of my favorite just and shorts fanta so it's just a lucky one basically I think we all get a few of those in which we could replicate it but it is tough as you say that's for sure so you sort of mentioned that you've gone for that you know that the colorful sort of birds is that what's attracted you to the parrots in Australia obviously a lot of your shots are parrots is that what attracts you to them I guess generally a lot of the parrots have really spectacular colors as well so it's always really nice to see those and to capture those talking of spectacular colors you've shared with us this major Mitchell cockatoo which is absolutely amazing I know we went birding last year together and actually found these birds we didn't get this shot but we saw them up close and they're absolutely amazing but you must've been stoked to get this photo yeah that was another bird that I've wanted for many many years and they're not uncommon but they're very hard to kind of track down I think they just hear they're in everywhere and then you just get lucky sometimes that they come to like a watering hole and I was just talking about sticks before so in this case if you have like a stick that has a lot of nice character to it with a spectacular bird on it it can actually work it's always good to keep in mind as well where the bird lives like a spine ball it's always near flowering bushes basically but the major Mitchell's cockatoo might never see a flowering bush in his life basically so I think it's always good to kind of match the perch into bird to have it like really really yeah hundred percent and obviously to get the crest up on that species as as good too and can be hard to achieve well that's the key I think and when you look at pictures of them you often see that with the crest down they almost look like a different burn they just become like a kind of fluffy white bird you almost see no colors but when the crest is up the whole body posts you're kind of changes and all the pink comes out and obviously the spectacular colors in the crests come out so yeah it makes a big difference with that bird and usually they only have to crest up right after they land so it might be like what two three seconds that they have to crest up and the rest of the time it's just yeah for sure definitely I asked you to share a couple of your favorite images that you've taken over the years you've obviously got a lot and it's hard to narrow them down but one of the first ones that you sent me were these Gordian finches obviously a highlight of a recent trip you took up north and you could just tell us a little bit about that image well that was sort of a targeted trip to trying to get those birds for a while it didn't really work and then we found a spot where there's a bunch of them coming into like a water source every morning so we just set up a couple purchase next to the water and when the birds before they don't really like landing on the ground so if you put a few sticks there they like to have like a tree at the top and then kind of come down to your perch and then go to the water it actually makes them feel safer so you kind of help them out by having a few purchase then getting five males kind of perfectly spaced out is obviously next level you're just planning and preparing things properly and I think that's a lot of things that you can't really see with my shots but there goes into these sort of images there's a lot of thinking and preparation to get a shot like this and you will never get a shot like this just walking through the bush and hoping that they would just sit nicely lined up for you in a tree and that background is that just like a creek bed or rocks that's just the other side of the creek bed if you want to get a lot of birds in focus and you're using setups or in general even if you just see a lot of birds sitting somewhere you would have to try and line yourself up in a way that the perch is parallel to your sensor because if it's kind of like this it will always be parts out of focus and parts in focus whereas if it's like this even with a really wide aperture you can still get all the birds sharp because it's directly in line with your Center so the depth of field covers the whole length of the perch so I'm assuming well I know you obviously shooting the high-speed so you're taking a lot of shots at once to hopefully get one of them that's sharp and has the pose that you want there's obviously the key yeah and that's especially if there's multiple birds there's not many times on all the birds look in the right direction so it's really key to just fire away and hope that one time you get where all the heads are kind of aligned in a good way that's certainly did challenge with multiple birds because often you get two birds looking great in a third one it's looking away or a fair bit of planning goes into some of these shots and I thought it'd be fun to ask you what species took you the longest and how many attempts you made to further F this bird I think sometimes what happens is people see your images online and they think oh you know you go out you take this shot and you come home but obviously there's a lot of work behind the scenes and you often go home without anything so what was that species that took you forever to get well it would be very nice if I could just go out and get those nice shots that would that would make it a lot easier and you know from our road trip we did last year in June what kind of grind it can be like we got some nice shots in the end but we spent over a week driving thousands of kilometres not really getting much for a few days in a row another -3 degrees that's very cold sitting in a tiny little metal higher so yeah it's a lot of planning and preparation that goes into it and for me it was definitely those region parrots that were parrots I was very interested because that was one of the birds that I had back in Germany as a teenager that I was breeding so I have like a sort of special connection with them I must say now I definitely prefer to kind of see them fly through the outback and the closest for me is probably five six hours away from them or something so over the years afterwards are probably done at least one trip a year to that area trying to get some shots but never got anything that never even got close yeah I think was May 2018 when I thought I'll just have to do another trip different time of the year let's try that I think first time I tried was like October then I tried July then I tried August and I tried September and I'm and then I talked to some other people that seemed to have success in April May so I thought oh yeah I try that and I got there the birds were there I set up and I had up to like 12 of them on my purchase so that was just totally crazy next day I break something on my car and I'm stuck for a week in this country town because I had to wait for the paths to come but I got the shots and now it's a good story but I'm still stoked that I was finally able to get those shots because they're just a spectacular bird and fun ya know that beautiful when you've done a lot better than me I've tried a couple of times and had no success so hopefully another time I'll get another chance but I thought I'd just talk about a couple of images of yours that I really really liked the first one is this giver bird for people that aren't aware this is a ground dwelling bird so that you've got to go I've never even seen it you've got to go into the outback of Australia to see it and it lives on the ground on these rocks so it can be hard to fire them in the first place because they kind of blend in but this shot just sort of has everything that I'm looking for in an image you've got the birds pose is fantastic eye contacts great exposures great and the inclusion of habitat is what really does it for me that that little flower and those little shrubs that image is just outstanding you must have been stoked with that yeah it's really happy with that shot and if you said they live in areas where if you just saw a photo you would not think anything could literally it's literally just rocks on the ground for the next thousand kilometres you can't even see anything else so it just rocks on the ground and suddenly you see like this little yellow bird running through the rocks yeah this was outside coober pedy and I was just driving looking for these birds and suddenly I spotted like this little thing just running through the rocks and it was just kind of looking for insects and stuff and so there was just a few little rocks and little kind of hills next to the road there probably just from the road grading or medicine push a bit of dirt to the side so it built like a nice little kind of wall and I noticed that it always likes to stand on like a rock that's a little bit bigger than the other rock so I just put a nice Rock in between some of the knives flowers that I could find and then when I just kind of came through it just goes like from rock to rock and then it just stands on a rock and looks up for a little bit and then it runs to the next rock so just a bit of planning a bit of luck so yeah and that's what brings it all together give it a feel craft there obviously the that's often the key is to watch the behavior because birds will often repeat their behavior and if you can predict where they're going to go will give them an opportunity they'll often do it and obviously results in that shot which is amazing we've talked a little bit about all these awesome shots what makes them awesome apart from taking them in the field is obviously editing these photos and all of your images are just edited to a really high standard so thought we just have a quick chat about the editing process and what that involves and I guess the first question is why edit photos at all because if you're shooting in RAW I think it's just a necessity to actually edit your images because the aim of the RAW format is not to give you a finished file it's to give you a nice flat file with the most information and details possible in the file so you can then convert it and then edit it into the file that you actually want so I think editing is a very big and important part and I'm certainly an advocate of it because I want my pictures to look as good as possible ya know for sure definitely I agree with what you're saying it's that the process is doesn't stop once you take the photo it's it's you know editing is part of the whole digital workflow and I've got an image here that I took was actually I think you are with us yeah when we're trying to get this per Peretz and in a little and I happen to photograph IRA I think you were somewhere else it just happened - yeah it just happened to fly in front front of me but they obviously the raw file is so flat it's almost devoid of color but in reality in real life it looked a lot more like the processed image that obviously the raw files collected the information and then just with a little bit of processing of process it much more lifelike and to bring out the details and I guess that's ultimately what it's about going from that raw to the final product think this would be the perfect example that I was just referring to as well where the raw file delivers you a flat kind of gray boring looking file that it requires you to bring back to life to it but because it's so flat initial it actually contains the most information possible so we can get the absolute most out of it and actually transform it into the image that we saw in the film mmm yeah for sure definitely you've shared with me a before-and-after of some beaders that you took I noticed that you took this way way back in 2007 and so when did you start taking editing seriously and when did you learn about it to get images looking like this better well actually the first version of this picture looked nothing like the picture that are added now so I think I got a lot more into taking nice pictures but it took me a lot longer to understand editing and to learn editing when you start Photoshop it's just this overwhelming program where you can do anything you want to do but you have absolutely no idea how to do any of it it has been a long process for me and and I think this is a good example we're shooting in RAW helps me so much as well because I could go back and have this really stunning image from I don't know 15 years ago or something open it again and re-edit it with my knee knowledge and getting a fantastic final image whereas if I had shot this in a different file format I would have just been stuck with the old picture so I think that's a big thing for me shooting and raw and having shot and raw early now allows me to recover or improve up on a lot of my old images simply by applying my knee and better knowledge to it you know for sure probably won't go into detail today between raw and JPEG yarn did do a video recently about the difference between that you can check out and have a look but we obviously shouldn't raw for all those reasons that he's mentioned is there any other software that you use to edit your photos so once you get back from the field what it what's your process and I guess also how do you store your photos well I use fast on image viewer to look through my raw fat it's a free program and you can just really quickly click through all your RAW files and look at them really easily at 100% and that's something that I'm very fond of because I like to make sure that my files have critical sharpness so being able to just zoom in and then scroll through all the files at 100% at almost no delay is something that I really appreciate and that really speeds up my workflow but other than that i only use photoshop so i use Camera Raw to do all the adjustments to the raw file and then open up the file and do all my adjustment layers in Photoshop and then save it as a PSD file when it comes to storage at the moment I'm basically just saving my files in folders and then have multiple backups on external hard drives to be sure that I don't lose any of my files so I'll leave links below in the description to this fast own image viewer that yarn mentioned I guess the question is do you enjoy the editing process and how long does it take on some images I enjoy to degree and usually takes way too long especially for really like an image I'll fiddle with it for way too long to make sure that it looks like absolutely perfect so anywhere from like five minutes to maybe up to an hour if it's like a very difficult image editing has become a little bit less of a priority for me so I try to only edit the images that are really loved that are real standouts and then put a little bit more effort into them so editing probably would take me an average maybe 10 to 20 minutes for a nice bird photo just making sure everything is perfect what we're talking about editing and and the power of Photoshop and that I guess it's also important that we cover how important is to try and get it right in the field you obviously know what you're doing in the field to make your editing process easier so maybe if you could just talk us a little bit about what you're doing in the field to make your editing process easier well I think the first thing is to get your exposure right I made a whole video on mastering exposure so I think I would recommend watching that because it's a bit too detailed and you just explain it but the theory is that you want to expose the image as bright as possible so expose to the right of your histogram to get a really nice bright flat file where that has maximum detail and that's what I try to achieve basically so the only thing that actually represents or shows you how your exposure is working is the histogram so I think it's very important that you understand it and that you use it in the field to be able to expose as far to the right without clipping any of the highlights and getting the most perfect raw files because the better your RAW files the better will be your final images there's no way around that yeah I think you just touched on it there and it's something I get asked a fair bit as well and that is how do you deal with noise obviously with the older crop bodies and a lot of cameras they didn't handle it as well but some people were probably surprised to know that you don't really apply any noise reduction at all because you're obviously getting your exposure bang on in the field and if you do that there's a lot less need for noise reduction and post-processing well I'm usually trying to get a somewhat light background and if you have a light background noise shows up a lot less than if you're shooting like on dark backgrounds or dark green background this is something if you look at my images I try to avoid having dark green backgrounds at them at all costs basically so if it's really bad then I will apply it but I think there's too much emphasis on it almost and people spend so much time running noise reduction rather than making sure that the image is perfectly exposed and looking really nice there are good tips for sure I guess the other thing I'll just quickly notice you mention is you just talked about the dark backgrounds light backgrounds this also leads into the light that you have in the field and the conditions that you're shooting and I've got a couple of images here of the first one is a spoon or was taken before the Sun was up it's quite dark with a dark background so it's a very flat blueish image whereas contrast that to only half an hour later and I photographed this Egret and that dark green becomes a light green because the sun's warmed it up so obviously the color temperature of the Sun and the scene can make a big impact on the final images well kind of oh absolutely I mean light with photography is probably the key like I personally just like to shoot in really flat light because then it gives me an even flatter file that I can then tweak in the direction that I want but with Sun I think you get really nice colors especially if it's kind of early in the morning or later in the day but you also have to be aware with especially shooting with like bright Sun like that Iger you just showed an hour later would probably be very hard to expose because in this image the light is just perfect it hits the background enter bird with the kind of same intensity but as the Sun goes higher and the white becomes much brighter you will have to start underexposing because you camera sensor can't handle the dynamic range anymore and then suddenly your background becomes really dark even though it's not that dark in real life well this is why I kind of like to have lighter backgrounds because then exposure is easier because the contrast between the bird and the background isn't so much and it's easier to expose and you can actually shoot longer because your background doesn't go so dark so quickly there's a really good point I must admit I have struggled in cameras in general struggle to expose white birds and dark backgrounds for sure so it can be a difficult thing to do and so I asked you an to process one of my flame rodman images that I took so I sent him the raw file and he has kind enough to process it for me so Yan in his master class video he has a basic workflow and then at some advanced workflow so he's sort of done both so I've sent you the raw image what are you thinking when you immediately see it you see that the color balance isn't quite right and you're thinking of a crop what sort of going through your head when you first see a raw image like that well whenever I see a red or an orange bird my alarm bells go off it's like oh my god this is going to be terrible to edit because the Photoshop and roll converter will really struggle to keep any detail in red or yellow or orange color it's by far the worst color to process what usually happens it over saturates it and you lose all the detail in it so that's the first thing I noticed I mean this image is a expose pretty well if you go too much I'd probably like to be a little bit brighter but then if you got much brighter you start to lose detail on this side of the bird and on that white wing strip that's already kind of struggling so it's very tricky bird to expose because you exposed to brighter you lose detail exposed to dark you're pulling it up and it's kind of a struggle as well so it's tricky but that was the first thing I thought and then the rest of the image I thought was very nice and we just need a little bit of a crop and yeah personally I like to probably lighten the background a little bit but that's something I would only do in my advanced process no it's good tips and just just quickly with the cropping how do you decide the crop is it just a for me it's something that's just through experience you know what you like and it's almost an instinctive thing as opposed to following any sort of defined rule but how do you crop it's all feel for me people have always said I've nice compositions but that usually just happened like I don't know I can't describe it it's just something I crop and then I move it around and it just feels right at a certain point like I don't follow any rules or swirls or angles or I don't know there's heaps of different advice on that I find that it's Whitely technical for me I'll just crop it to the point where it looks nice and again I think it comes down to you you can crop the image whatever way you want it like this no real rule behind yep so this the basic edit that you've done obviously makes the image look a lot better and it's actually a very quick process isn't it you're just doing a few adjustments to obviously the the white balance of the image the contrast and a few other little things which doesn't take that long and it's not that hard to do really is it well this was probably 30 seconds so open to raw file in Camera Raw I chose a color profile and that's something that's very important and something that I think people underestimate us well there's a lot of different color profiles and those are there no matter what process what program you use whether it's Lightroom capture one or Camera Raw there's a lot of sort of predefined standard profiles that are applied to your raw file so you never really get to see your true role phone you get to see it through a filter pretty much that's applied by the raw converter that you're using and so I always think it's important to pick the right pro for iting it a little bit pull two highlights down a bit and I think made it a little bit warmer and then I just applied levels curve saturation and I'm done yet and so this is basically something that I just have in my master class the basic process if you don't really want to do much to your images at all it still lets you take them from a good level to a great level without really spending any time and then if you want to take it further to take them to that next level or fiddle around with them a bit more have my advanced process where I go a lot more into detail and apply changes to like certain areas of the bird where is in the basic process I basically just apply everything to the whole image of its ya know for sure and obviously we move on to the advanced image and I can immediately see that you've lightened the background mainly the dark greens you brought them up it appears you've removed slightly out of focus rock that was a little bit distracting and the bottom left and the you've fixed the blow and highlight on the wing and obviously the orange is a little bit on the chest is a little bit more sort of even over the bird that's sort of what I'm instantly noticing just looking at it is that roughly what you've done what always seems to happen especially if you have like a bride bird with the limited dynamic range of the camera is dead usually the bird and your foreground is too bright and your background is too dark so I guess in my photos are always try to kind of even that out or match that up I think in the second image you can see nicely how the intensity of the light on the background and the bird seems to be kind of similar now as before the bird and especially the rock as well I darkened to rock of fear but they can see just all the light kind of reflecting catching on that rock in the other image too so I darkened that down in the first image kind of drawing more of the tension towards the bird and then yeah I definitely worked on the orange actually dee said sure I did the orange and then use selective color to bring it back to the color that's a good trick to maintain detail so if i desaturate it i keep more detail in it but if i D said just D set your edit it kind of starts to look pale or loses the right color so I use selective color in this instance to bring it back to that sort of orange colors the other thing as you said I just lightened the background slightly in all I've done basically is tried to make the bird to hear off the shot by making a better slightly lighter so the top of the bird stands out a little bit more personally I think I took it to another level but like I said whether you prefer the raw the basic or advanced version that's really up to you but I really like to know about all the things you can do to your images so you can decide what they look like I really appreciate you going through that and I think you touch on good points I think editing is a creative pursuit as well I think photography in general is a creative thing I don't like how people say this is right or this is wrong you should do that you shouldn't do that ultimately it's up to the individual and what you like because you've got to get enjoyment out of it and you know editing is part of your creative process and I agree with you totally so learning the editing process can also help your photography by working backwards I think because you see what the issues are when you're editing to try and fix that in the field so you don't have to deal with those issues later on oh absolutely I think that's a very good point the more you understand editing order more you edit your images the more you see what you've done wrong in the field and do more you're aware of certain things like your like I always blow out these highlights on the bird for instance so I have to be a little bit more wet so maybe you could show us your edit now yeah look I processed this image probably last year obviously before what's your course and learnt a few of the different things and that's you can have a look on the screen now so it's similar isn't it but at the background slightly darker you mentioned maybe not as much color in that rock but you've definitely dealt with the oranges and that's something that I'll need to learn to do and add to my toolkit when I process images in the future what do you think of the difference what I find amazing that we almost chose the identical crop hoses almost 100% identical without any guidance just by going by our fields so I think that's a pretty cool thing both are really nice edits and I think this is where the personal preference comes in yeah I like the background a little bit brighter the rock a bit more colorful you kept it a little bit different but that's both a really nice images once my style once your style like this isn't really one style everyone should aspire to you should really be just your style in whatever you're happy with I think this is a good example where you can get basically three really nice looking images with my basic to advanced process and you're editing three similar looking images but both are little bit different and you can probably find a nice thing in each three of them that you like so something that I get asked a bit and people will probably be surprised by this answer that is how do you deal with sharpening and do you sharpen your images well again unless I make a really big print I don't sharpen my images at all anymore I apply just the standard sharpening in Camera Raw but that's not very much but I guess I'm using pretty good gear so generally when I got a shot it is pretty crisp and if I apply more sharpness I'm almost creating artifacts basically so I never really felt the urge to add a lot more sharpness you often get people who find Photoshop quite daunting a lot of people just refuse to use it yeah they just find it very difficult to use what's your advice for someone just starting out with Photoshop or hasn't really got a lot of experience of it get my master class will probably jump ten years and a half in the Cure fair point I know it sounds a bit cheesy but it's really the truth like this is something that you said you would have liked when you started out for me that's something that I wish I've had because it is totally overwhelming when I started out in Photoshop I didn't know what to do with it like I said you can do anything in Photoshop but unless you know how to do it there's just no way to do it he can he certainly don't have to spend money but what you have to spend is time on watching a lot of videos watching other people edit and just get an idea what they do and then incorporate it into your own workflow ya know some good advice I'm much the same I just you know watch some YouTube videos and asked other photographers how they went about doing it and picked up little things and obviously your course has helped me I did ask a few of my subscribers if they had any questions and a couple of them popped up some of them we've already answered a lot of them about noise and sharpening one of the good one here is what are the signs that you're over editing is there such a thing of over editing if it's purely your choice what you want your images to look like yeah some people might make the choice and say they want the bird to look 100% like they look in the field and that's their choice some people say they don't want to edit some people like to do a lot of editing like I said before I don't think there's any right or wrong and it comes down to personal choice I would say if you're doing too much is when you're doing things that are not necessary like I brighten a background that's already nice or I'm darkening down something that's already dark when you're basically doing things you don't have to do I think that would be the case yeah just one last question here your guide because how do I successfully remove unwanted objects like a unwanted branch near the bird and you do actually go through this in your master class and there are some tools that are available sometimes it's easy it's hard and like you just said you have to make a decision whether you do go to that effort would usually use the clone tool and the patch tool to that no I think that covers pretty much everything I appreciate the time that you've taken today just for people that are wanting to find out where this master class is how do they find it where do they go to look for it well hopefully you will put a link in your description that would be the easiest otherwise you can just go to my website you will find it there as well or go to my youtube channel or my Instagram or yeah sent me a message your email and I will hook you up all right thanks for that take care cool so yeah
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