I have something I want to tell you. I am running for president
of the United States. Holy. I'm paving the road for a lot of other
people looking like me to get elected. Brooklyn's first black representative. You're about to make history. I love your hair. How old are you now? 47. Yeah. Jamal Finkley, BlackTree TV. Um, I always start with. My favorite actress of all, I mean,
I love, love you, Virginia King, and it's always, it was great to see
y'all pair together to work on this. So you just say you love
her, younger than me. I love you too! He said actress, he hadn't
gotten to actor yet. I gotta, I gotta ask first, I mean,
cause I know we've seen you, we've heard you do the voice of Huey and Riley. How, how, how was it getting into this
Bayesian accent to pull off Shirley? Ooh, that was a lot of work,
um, to, um, try to honestly, uh, capture Shirley's dialect. Um, because it's very specific to Shirley. Have, um, and I said, I was about to
say had, but have an amazing, uh, vocal coach, Aaron Washington, who really
just, um, helped my ear understand that as humans, We don't sound the same way
all the time, you know, mood, um, uh, different times in life, uh, um, emotion. Uh, determines who you're talking to,
determines how we sound, and so her helping me to tap into that and really
listen to, okay, Shirley speaks really fast during these moments, Shirley slows
down in these moments, you really hear a little bit of Brooklyn in these moments,
you hear a little Bayesian in these moments, and allowing me to give myself
the freedom to not, um, because the last thing I want to do is a, is a impression. Shirley Chisholm. It's kind of where An impersonation. Yeah, an impersonation, yeah. Where Shirley and Regina meet. What's the commonality? And that's what we really worked on. A lot of research to just who she
is, or who she was as a human being. All of that played into the dialect. Hopefully, you know, people, uh,
walk away feeling like they're not hearing me, they're with Shirley. It was not an impression,
but I was impressed. Oh, well, hey! I like that. It's just how Papa raised you. It's the truth. So I don't blame you? No, you blame my father. He had four daughters. Four. But when he died, he left
you the little money he had. You were treated differently. And now you think, now
you think you're special. That's how Papa was with you. He made you believe things. They aren't true. He made me believe in myself. Regardless of what people think. You have no regard? Whether or not someone else stands
with campaign does to your friends? I can do what's necessary. That's what Papa would want? You are pushing us away over nothing. Miriam, is that what you
think my campaign is? Is that all it is to you? Nothing. Nothing. It's what you make the
rest of us feel like. It's a presidential
year, uh, election year. I'm boss and I'm bothered was, uh, Shirley
Chisholm's, uh, campaign slogan for each of you, each of you, if y'all was. To be our president this year. Like what would your, what would
your campaign, uh, prospects be a slogan or, uh, well, it's kind of
hard to beat unbought and unbossed that that's a hard one to be. That is a hard one to beat. I don't know what, I guess. Um, I don't, I don't know. I don't know. It'd be some boss. How can we beat unbought and unbossed? Yeah, that's saying that's, that's. I'm authentic. I'm real. That's a beautiful place to be. You can reflect off of real. And I think that's why they were afraid
of Shirley and didn't teach her in school because she was unbossed and unbought. And that kind of integrity and
commitment to the greater being that you are, that's, that That's incendiary. So many of her titles
are catalysts for change. The numbers are improving. Less than 3 percent of the
vote in Maryland and Michigan. Yes, that's better than less than 1
percent in Wisconsin, but If I can't get the nomination, I can still get delegates. And if we can control some of
the delegates, we can still force change at the convention. Get delegates from where? All that's left of the map. Look, Oregon's going for
McGovern, we know that. And we're not even on the ballot
in Rhode Island, South Dakota. But there is California. California is winner take all. But what if we win California? Shirley, you said yourself
it'd be a waste of time. I would do whatever it takes
to compete in California. It takes money. Do you have money? Because we need money. We can get money. We, jeez. Even if we enter the primary,
how do we get traction? Who wants to back you? Now, come on, Mac. I'm just being realistic. Yeah, I know, but come on. You want to do this, we'll figure it out. But at this point Without something
that's going to make some noise. I mean, Terrence, I know
you're like a scientist. You be talking about double helix. Yeah, absolutely. But, we're doing a, and I just
went back to school, so I know like the studying part, but when you're
preparing for a historic drama, um, besides the script, like how deep do
you, you know, delve into history? Like how do you build the character
of, of Arthur Hardwick, you know? Finding out his little secrets and
tricks that he had, um, that he carried a gun, I always had a pistol with him. That kind of, and you only, you don't get
that in the books or anything like that. You literally have to if
you have at your disposal. Um, right now everyone
has it with the internet. You can look up almost anything
and you can go to the dark web if you can't find it there. If you're, depending on what your appetite
is as far as wanting to get to the truth. But finding out little other aspects of
them that other people might not see. You know, being able to look from
a crevice or even from a projected mountaintop that they want. You know, you don't just look at
who the character is, look at where they failed and look at where what
they were trying to accomplish. And then you get a full story. But you're always in at the end of the
day, because there's a million stories to tell, but the lead is going to lay the
foundation of where you're going to go. So you have to be there looking and open. And that was perfectly easy with
Shirley and Arthur because Arthur, he adored, you know, everything
that she did, every aspect of her. So, um, You know, I love that you,
like, brought up, like, the fact that, you know, Arthur, you know, uh,
he carried a gun everywhere he went. And I think a lot of people don't realize
when they're watching actors that while you don't see that, um, Written out or
spoken about it gives you yeah It is what we and that's what we do as actors
when we're even if it's not playing a real life person But you're just building
a character when you decide okay this person Always in this case carried a gun
or this person was from Uh, Barbados and lived with her, um, her, her grand, her
grandparents during these formative years of her life before she came back to, um,
to Brooklyn, uh, that, that informs you. that informs so much about how your body
moves, you know, like Shirley was always very erect, you know, always just, and
that didn't bend back, didn't bend. But when moments where you needed to
see how everything that was happening to her would affect her to get into
those real human moments, it made sense. To kind of let your
shoulders drop a little bit. Yeah, but it was just your shoulders. Your back never bent. And your shoulders would come
forward a little bit and then that breath would come back up. And that's what everybody needs to see. That, hey, you're gonna get kicked. You're gonna get knocked down. It's how many times you're willing to
get up and take that next breath again. Yes. Yeah. Well, great movie, Rain in Virginia. Y'all produce some more movies together. Put Terrence in them, because
he's absolutely fantastic. And, uh I learned a lot about this movie. Can't wait till the world gets to see it. Oh, appreciate that. Thank you.