Beginner Research Resources (Geoffrey Fröberg Morris Live)

we are going to kind of get started with today's topic and if you have specific research questions you know beginner research um please post them in the comments and we will try to get as many of them addressed but um do you go by jeff or jeffrey oh jeff my mother my mother calls me jeffrey okay only when i'm in trouble yes we'll go by jeff and i even think that you have you're gonna we're gonna have a reveal today and you're going to tell us a little bit about a new tool so so stay with us because this is just getting exciting and we appreciate everyone who's participating i've already seen that we've got viewers coming from chile and around the world and here in in utah we're both um in utah and i'm i'm actually downtown really close to the library um but where are you joining us from jeff i'm in west jordan in west jordan okay so let us know where you guys are are from and what oh we have costa rica and montana and i'm just looking off to the screen at our comments okay so when people come to the library and you're you know sitting at one of the reference desks or what are some of the most commonly asked research questions oh boy that is a give us the answer okay okay but that's a really mixed bag because people come in from literally all over the country we even see guests come in from other parts of the world who just you know come to salt lake city or maybe they're here to see the national parks and they come into the library and we get a really wide variety of questions um i think that one of the most common questions that we get is well first of all they want to be able to see if they can find their ancestors familysearch.org and and so you know that's really a matter of sitting down and just identifying which generation they want to go to um if they are trying to find someone who is living then that's going to be a lot harder yes because you know the records and are all protected by privacy laws but on the other hand if we can get to you know a grandparent a great grandparent um to a time and a location with today's technology there is a really good chance that we can find some really exciting things um i think i can think of one experience just right off the cuff yes we had a visitor who had come in they were from like back east somewhere and they just happened to be in salt lake they come to the library and we sat down with them we started entering just a little information into the tree and gratefully this person had enough living memory from their parents and their grandparents to be able to just populate just enough information to where we could tie into um information that was already in the tree wow and yeah i can tell you you know when i was working at the library 20 years ago this would only be a dream you just would never believe that a person could just come in sit down and within a half an hour have enough information in the tree that suddenly we start seeing all these record hints appear while on these person pages and suddenly they're connecting they're connecting to lines and information that's already there and it's going back generations i mean wow they had nothing and within you know an hour we're staring at generations generations i mean the 1700s i mean it's just so rewarding it's incredible it really isn't that doesn't always happen but um but boy when those do happen i am always just amazed how far we've become and we know we know you know and those of us that are here together you know have a love for our family history and for helping others and so it's wonderful to hear that that's something that you you get to do so show us uh show us around a little bit and some sort of some cool research tips for those of us who are beginning researchers or want to learn more alright i'm going to share my screen okay and we're confirming um we've got oh brazil and argentina and columbia here this is so great that you guys are here um um yeah and so we're here with jeff from the library and he is a nordic swedish nordic research expert and we're going to talk about kind of beginning research questions and he's going to give us a little sneak peek of something coming and then we'll we'll take questions from our viewers so wendy i got a message here that says host disabled participants screen sharing oh good heavens that we definitely can't have that be an issue um let me make sure that you can share your screen okay now try see if that works there we go yep perfect okay here we are we we are live everyone can see this i'm already logged in on family search and i have navigated back to one of my ancestors who happens to be in sweden big surprise and um one of the great things that you see here in the tree already is that you can see some of these little little badges these little label icons that are just showing and the ones that are really exciting are the blue ones the red ones indicate that there's something that needs to be fixed and usually those fixed are tied to things like non-standardized place names those are easy fixes but the blue ones are exciting because in this case i'll go ahead and click on the name and that brings up this summary this summary badge and then i click here on person down here at the bottom and when i do that then we open up what we call the person page now ideally you know every person should only have one page in the tree but it's not uncommon that you'll find duplicates and when you do you just have to merge them down so the first thing you want to do when you come to a page like this is you just want to just look around on the page just kind of acclimate to what you're looking at you're going to look up here in the vital section where you'll see birth dates and places you'll see this little in this case there's a little exclamation point indicating that the place name needs to be standardized um so that's why we got that red one in the first place but that's an easy fix i mean i won't do that now because i have more exciting things to show you but you just keep scrolling through you know and when you come further down you can see family members the left-hand side we have the individual with their spouse and children and on the right side we have that same individual listed as a child with their siblings and their parents and so you can just look how big these families were as you come a little further up you can see that there's some sources that have been attached as well as the timeline but the the fun thing the thing that i get really excited about is these record hints over here on the right side of the screen because what's happened here is family search has either you know done indexing that has gone through records that have not been indexed before and have created searchable databases or they have formed a good partner relationship with family search partners where the partners have created indexes and in either case the the information has been fed into the system and then what the system does is it uses certain parts of information to try to find good matches and that has gotten a lot better through the years i mean it used to be just kind of the first and last name you know the birthday but they have now got that to an art where they have they've included even relationships so it's not just names dates and places the system will actually look and see who is this person related to and then it will look at the hints and then it will see if you know the same relationship exists in the hint so then you just click on the hint so this is a great beginner way to be familiar with what you can do to contribute to the tree right absolutely absolutely and these hints that are being served up to you you know they're not family search is not saying that the people in these records on the right are the same person on the left they leave that up to you as the user to to use good judgment and just look at those names dates and places to see how consistent they are and if it looks good then you would attach it to the person page through the process of review and attach um if i click on that i can just show you it opens another tab um automatically i'm just in google chrome and um you can see it opened this tab up here at the top and then all you would do is just go through the information which is the indexed information on the left and what's in the family tree on the right and then if they are the same person then you would just go ahead and attach and and if they're not then you would click not a match and so you know that's an activity that anybody can do anybody can come in and just look at those names dates and places and just see how well they fit but you know to find your ancestors is a journey i mean it just is and um when you're using these hints you're really just starting that journey you know what what if there's no hints what if the hints are already attached and they didn't provide any new information for the person on the tree in that case you have to actually do some other things to try and go find them and um family search has created some really exciting ways to go about that and really what i wanted to do was to just kind of show you some of that process okay we are here for it and show us and teach us do we have any questions up to this point have i explained things pretty pretty good yeah i think and i think our audience is probably very familiar with with hints and so i think that's that's a good reminder that that's a great place to start i think you're good all right so if there were no hints the next place i would go look would i click i would click up here and search up at the top and then go into records and a lot of people just go ahead and type in a name here on the left side but if you if you will come down and click on browse all published collections on the right side then what it does is it brings up all of the historical record collections that family search has published on familysearch.org and you have these filters down the left side of the screen so you know if i was interested in you know tracking down more about johann matson i would come down to continental europe i would scroll down a little bit more till i get to sweden and when i hit that on the left automatically it filters all the collections on the right like instantly and at this point i can go through and i see that there's there are some databases here that are really big but just because they're big doesn't mean that it has everybody in them um it just means that they have indexed you know a large amount of data that's searchable but it's not comprehensive um if i look a little further down i can see that there's these camera icons and the browse images links if i wanted to go in and look at specific records that have been digitized that i can browse and so you know historical records would be the next place that i would just go see what is available to learn more about johan and you know the time and place that he that he was was living now let's say and by the way the record hints are generated from the searchable databases the record the record hints are not created from the images that have not been indexed so that's a gold mine that's a gold mine i mean in this case they're all organized by county um and you would just click on the county and then the parish and then you could start looking for your people um now even with this said even with everything we've looked at here in historical records there's more family search has collections that have that are available through familysearch.org that are not published in historical records um if i scroll back up i'm just going to move the little little zoom icon out of the way um i've clicked on search and down here is the catalog now a lot of people aren't familiar with the catalog it's intimidating yeah it is you know you feel like oh i don't know what's this what's this gonna be like when i get in there you know um if i were to come back to the person page and i just look at the vital information i can see that this guy was living in a place called heliforce so if i come back to the catalog and i come down to place and the easiest way to get anything in the catalog is just by place so a good tip yeah and i'll just type in hello and there it is and it's it's asking me is this it and it is so i go ahead and run the search and here are additional collections or items that family search has for this loca locality that have not been published on historical records if i click on church records you can see that well first of all they're in swedish yes but that's okay we have some really good word lists in the family search wiki that will help you know what those words are um but you click on the collection that you're interested in and then you scroll down and you can see these camera symbols here on the right side those mean that you can click on those and actually look through the collection which is anytime you see a camera like this it's pointing to historical records the question is what about these ones down here so if you scroll a little further down they don't have a camera icon these ones have a microphone number but not a camera icon and that means that this is a record that had been microfilmed decades ago that is available as a resource on microfilm and you can't look at it online and you might be going well jeff how does that help me because i'm working from home right how does that help us yeah exactly so couple things to consider there are a variety of different contracts when it comes to visibility of digital records in some cases you know well let's put it this way um so decades ago the records were microfilmed but when technology came of age where we could go through and scan them then we had to contact the original repository who hold who has the original record on their shelf and ask for permission for digital rights and in some cases they say yeah go for it and other times they say no just make it available in your centers but not not just online for everybody and in those cases you would need to go to a family search center to be able to look at it and and so you know just because there's no uh camera icon here doesn't mean that it's hopeless it just it just means you need to go to a center and try it at the center and um anyway there's a lot and that's that's yeah i think that's really helpful for people to know and um for our moderators we'll say please put in the chat a link to where we list all the centers and they're all currently closed but if you follow the family history library facebook page and the family search facebook page will be posting updates when things um start changing so but i think it's helpful to know that there's information out there and you may not be able to get it online due to restrictions as you explain but there is a possibility to see them somewhere else and that's why people come to the library or go to centers and that's why everyone wants it to open up again yeah it's true and there's records that have been you know put up online through other providers as well and i think sometimes sometimes we feel like you know the resources available through familysearch.org are so large they're so vast that you know certainly they have everything and boy that is just not true in fact the majority of records in the world have not been ever microfilmed or digitized wow i mean by far the majority and so um you know really this journey to find the piece of information that you're after begins with what is published online and you know in in this case here in the catalog we can see that there's a there's a little magnifying glass which means it ties to a searchable database and if it doesn't have one of those then you click on the camera to actually browse through the record yourself and if you're finding that that browsing through that record yourself is overwhelming like sometimes records can be organized in weird ways it makes it made sense to the people who created the record but for those of us 100 years later trying to go through them it might be confusing and in that case what you do is you find someone else who has some has more experience than you have like you you'll walk you through the process and as soon as they show you what the process is it's really not that hard to do you know once you know how how to navigate right and um you can do that in a variety of ways you can find help through through uh family search communities you know there's community groups yes yes it's a great way to ask for what's a good next step um lots of people go there to get that extra guidance and then we're gonna be talking about here in a minute another new a new offering that the family history library has during this pandemic and honestly it it was i think um spurred if you want to say because because of the pandemic but it's not going away after the pandemic well i i think can we go can we can we show them now what it is you're talking about yes of course let's let's do so this is this is our big reveal jeff this is exciting it is exciting this is awesome is what this is um so if i go into the family search wiki but maybe i'll just scroll up and actually go through the steps to show you that would be great so i've clicked on search which opened up these tabs up here and then i'm going to click on wiki and it's still loading see here we go so in the search field here i'm just going to type in family history library and there's lots of choices here but i'm just going to choose the one for the library when i click on it then we have this notification up at the top indicating that the library is closed because of the pandemic if i scroll down a little bit you can see that there is a big letter from online family search consultations wow this is awesome yeah so you know for all those people who who have come to the family history library but are unable to because it's closed um you have access to specialists people who have lots of experience with research and research problems virtually so then what you would do is just click on the learn more and when you do that it opens up this page in the wiki now this is a i mean this is a pilot let's be honest let's be honest here it's a trial run it is but when i say when you say trial wendy it is not a trial that they may decide to remove later um this is here to stay go ahead and that's great when when we talk about it as a pilot we're just saying that you know this is a new service that's being offered we still have to figure out the the the speed bumps we got to figure out a few little problems to just make sure that the service continues to improve um but so anyway we appreciate people being patient with us as we're starting this out on this page in the wiki you'll see that there's this nice paragraph here that just helps you prepare for the upcoming consultation it also just kind of creates a little bit of the scope um for example you know these consultations are free right now they are limited at 20 minutes and the reason that is is because you know we're we're a small team and um we have a lot of other work assignments that we're also trying to accomplish ongoing assignments that that we are asked to do from the family history department but the department felt it was a priority to carve out some time and offer this service we are really excited to be offering this but we do this in 20 minute increments the goal really with these consultations is to help the guests find a good next step you know they're in 20 minutes you can't really you can't really solve some problems that are going to require more time but what we can do is we can identify a good next step we can we can look at the situation look at the problem find out what it is that you want to find and then we can offer some good suggestions of where to go look and we can even you know point you or take you to some of those resources to show you where they are and then and then of course the guest would do the actual searching um but let me search community to get help or a good reminder or they can schedule another consultation yes right yes this is good um show us the i think you talked about the it's all based on homelands right is there a specific air okay here we go there are so because this is a pilot and because you know even with all the all the people who offer you know specialist help at the family history library really these are the countries that we have the greatest strength you know it doesn't mean that we couldn't give guidance for countries or for you know requests outside of this list but this is where we're starting and then over time we hope to be able to expand it um but but and yes there are homeland countries um that are listed among this list that family search is focusing on urban yeah yeah yeah that they're growing additional resources for the future in those areas when you come just a little further down there's more information that you just as far as the tool that we'll be using it's called microsoft teams and microsoft teams you you can run it off the desktop without installing it but it's not the best experience so i really recommend that if you're gonna come do a consultation download the app first and install it to your computer so that you can have the best experience that's a good tip yeah so so you'll just go ahead and download join and there's instructions on how to go through this when you want to actually book the consultation you'll just click on um book the consultation and it takes you to this screen and this is where you would choose your locality now the first time you look at this you might think oh that's not a very big list but there's a slide bar over here on the side okay so you have to use the slide bar to be able to look at all the available localities that are being supported right now so and then you'll just go ahead and choose a day and a time you know it will not allow you to schedule faster than or sooner than a 24-hour appointment okay and it will also not let you schedule past two weeks so um so anyway does there is this available in other languages is there spanish there is spanish yep um let's see right over here oh good is there any there's latin america spain on the left and then there's latino america espana on the on the right okay good yeah we had someone was asking that question so the way to prepare is listed above the way to join is here you can't join further out than two weeks and no sooner than 24 hours um this is awesome i feel like we need a drum roll i mean this is this is exciting when have you guys started this is this just brand new just recently just just recently within the last boy i don't know probably a month that's recent yes that's reason for us that's great and how's it been going so far you know it's been going really really well um we're excited to get the word out we're excited to have more opportunities to provide support because really this is the part of our jobs that we love you know be able to meet with people and and hear their story we never get tired of hearing their story and and um trying to help them figure out what's a good next step uh and then the location just just to start to interrupt you to clarify the location is the where you want to do research you can be located anywhere in the world and um and yeah um okay so i have a question for you and then we'll take some is there anything else you wanted to say about this before we jump in just to clarify that was a really good point wendy thank you um so yes the what will happen is you will select the service for the place where the ancestor lived not necessarily where you live unless you want it in spanish and then you'll run it through there but you know if i had an ancestor from norway i would come in and i would just click norway and then i would come down and i would just choose a choose a day and then from there you choose your time the only other thing i wanted to mention is one of the things that we have found is that sometimes sometimes people have come in on these consultations and they've been hoping that we would be the ones who would actually do the looking up or the or that we would you know look up things for them and the service is not designed for that um i mean realistically those types of things the time adds up really fast and uh but as much as that would be fun you know we we're also trying to help as many people as we can and so we're just limiting these to 20 minutes and really just trying to find a goal a next step the next step that we will lead people to and then the guest does the step okay that's i think that's a good clarifier and if they're looking for help in countries not listed here like germany for example that would be a time to go to the communities right yeah yeah exactly exactly okay this is exciting i i i think this is great i'd love to see our viewers just flood this with you know necessary requests obviously um i have a question for you and then we'll take uh some viewer questions what's a commonly overlooked research tool that you can share with us i think one of the most common uh overlooked research tools is using other websites this this ties back to what i said earlier and you know and i i love working for family search and family search offers an enormous amount of information but we use ancestry we use my heritage we used to find my past and tons of other websites all the time um you know as we're helping a guest we are not as concerned about whose website it is or where we'd like we want to get them the guess to what they need and and so i think uh when you ask about overlooked tools i would just suggest that you know for whatever for whatever locality that your ancestors were living in just get familiar with the environment the genealogical environment of what resources are available and you can find a lot of that in the family search wiki just by by going to that locality in the wiki and then go to like the websites page and you'll see a long list of resources and articles um on how to use those resources so use the wiki that's another that's another tool i'm surprised i shouldn't be a surprise that the world is a big place with a lot of people um but there are still many people who are not familiar with the wiki you know and i think that's great and we had um i think it was amber larson talk about the ins and outs of the wiki so um so we'll have to have someone post a link to that because it is just a huge res uh resource okay i've got a couple of viewer questions are are you ready no okay um this is and i don't know if this is i don't know if this is your area of expertise but this is a you can say that you can answer it or we can we can let the the know where to find the information how can you add an adopted and a biological family to the tree to be able to research both this is from tammy okay well you have a couple options you want to show us too yeah yeah i can show you okay this is great um so if i come back to we'll we'll just use matt's person as an example but it one option is you know i mentioned here in the beginning that we've got you know the the father the mother the children on the left side for this person page when i come down to add child i can just go ahead and put in a name and you know i'll just make up a name i'm not actually gonna add it um so johann matson and let's just say you know he's male deceased and then i would put in a birth date and death date um i'm not actually going to do those steps here so but the system would look to see if this johan is already in the system and if it does look like he's there i would just go ahead and attach okay now once he's once he's been attached to the family then you would come back here in the tree and you would click on this little box with a pencil in it it's a little icon on the just to the right here when you click on that you can come down here to you know it shows the father and the mother and you can choose a relationship type so for example if this peter matson let's say maybe he was born out of wedlock maybe he was born before his mother married and maybe his father isn't actually moths so then what i would do is i would come in and i would click on add relationship type for the father you know this this mott's person and from here i can choose adopted biological foster guardianship or step and you know i think that the engineers were wise in choosing letting people choose how they want to define the relationship in other words the tree is not going to force people into deciding whether you want to put adoptive or whether you want to use step right in this case the motz is a step he's he's the stepfather um because you know given that scenario the child was actually from a different father and so then what you would do is you would put in a date and you would put in a reason of why you know that this this child is a step child and if that is the case then what's going to happen is um it will actually have the word step right next to his name okay and you have a couple options there you know one option is to leave the child within the family with all the siblings and out to the side of his name would be the word step to indicate that he was adopted by the father um or you could add that individual as a child of stina to an unknown father and if i had done that then what would happen is further down here you would have an unknown father i'll show you i'll show you an example real quick yeah this is great we get this question uh a lot this type of understanding the relationship and how to indicate the accurate relationship yeah this won't take long um let's see i'm gonna go down through this one and then i'm gonna go down through this one and then i'm going to different mom so to her and then to her tree okay so in this case uh let me zoom in so you can see better you can see that here we have this augusta who was born in 1884 and her mother is on and to this day we still don't know who augusta's father is um we're doing some dna testing and we are going to explore those avenues hoping that we're going to discover who the dad is but if i click here on ana you know let's see you know what i yeah i just sorry let me choose the daughter i just realized i wanted to show the step on the children of unknown father so this daughter she too had children out of wedlock she did eventually marry and she had children with that husband but if i scroll down a little bit you can see that here is here is augusta with three children with an unknown father now this frida down here at the bottom it's true we don't know who the father was the records don't show us the records don't say that the said to be father is but we believe that she is actually the daughter of this guy up here ow and so in this case you have one person who is attached in two places and it's not a duplicate you know her id number here l21x is the same id number l21x it's the same individual it's just she's been entered into the tree to be showing that she you know is a daughter of an unknown father but up here she's actually listed with a father and you know in her case we have records that support that we think that this really is the dad but with these other two we have no idea and and she put both of these children up for adoption um very very young and so they were never raised by the man she eventually married um if if she had not put him up for adoption and this eric olaf had actually raised them then i would have added them as children here and then added the word step you know to just really help help tell the story that eric really did raise these children and they considered him a father role you know in their lives and so um but in this case she put him up for adoption at under six months old it didn't make any sense to put him up there so instead they're in you know this is how we organize the tree to try to tell the story right right oh i i appreciate the lens into that because i think that this is where a lot of people have questions and someone else earlier on was asking about linking their genealogy to their brother's genealogy and so can you explain a little bit about the living you know the people we say living but those of us who are in the tree and why it's it's not something we can we can share with you i mean you know you can you can explain it better than i can but that's a common question i'm sure it is it you know it's uh it happens a lot our society it's i mean it just is what it is and so there are questions um and i think that um here's the basic rule living people in family cert in family tree cannot see living people and that makes sense mount family search will want to protect their privacy right and rightly so so living people cannot see living people in the tree so then what that means is that if i have a sibling who is living who also creates a tree creates an account and wants to attach to the tree um they will create that account they'll have themself in there they'll add the parents and if the parents are living then only the person who created can see so because living can see living so so in other words if i entered my parents living and then my sibling say my brother were to enter them as living i would not be able to see the the parents that my brother entered i could only see the ones that i entered and then what would happen is we would go another generation back to connect to what i sometimes refer to as the horizon of death yes that's an internal term yes it is but the reason i call it makes sense it does it does and and once you hit the horizon of death then everybody's visible and so your goal really should be to try to get your enough information in there so that you then connect to the people who are who are the feast in the tree and then at that point if you wanted to if i wanted to add my brother i would have to add him as a living person but only i would see him so in other words right now at least in our current world and that doesn't mean it won't change in the future right but in our current world if i i can't see the information that my brother would put in regarding living people um only he could see that and then eventually when my parents pass away then what will happen is the system will show duplicates and those duplicates need to be merged down to just be one person page okay thank you for answering that because i think that that's a a commonly asked question and we'll take we have another um viewer question and this is from vinnie and he's asking about researching obituaries you know those can be really rich records and sort of what tips you have for using those okay so when it comes to obituaries the real question that you need to come back to is where did the ancestor die if you know where they passed away then your first step would be to identify what local papers exist and and what newspapers existed when your ancestor was there right that's gonna that's gonna vary community to community country to country and so you know really it it all comes back down to time and place and you just have to figure out where was your person um where you know when they passed now if they were anywhere here in the u.s there are some really large databases that you can go look for obituaries for example on multiple providers but ancestry is one that that um you know has a vast amount of obituaries as well as family surgeon and many others so you know you can go in and try those if you're looking for an obituary that's overseas then i would suggest that you would probably check with the national library of whatever country to see if maybe they have an online collection of newspapers and maybe in those newspapers there will be obituaries um and so you know certainly we do that in the nordic countries where they have digitized historic newspapers but in order to search them i have to go to the website for the national archives of sweden right for example so it's just it depends on where you go and then of course there's been some providers who have you know really built um a lot of data around that like newspapers.com so what's your what's the favorite record that you've ever discovered for yourself like what's the most exciting experience you've had oh boy um i think that it would probably be one of them would be when you know my mother who had also been doing a lot of research like she had been trying to find her great great grandfather and all of the records in sweden all these household examination records that are a lot like censuses they all said that he was born in a certain place all of them throughout his entire life i mean the guy shows up in like 16 records and they all say born in such and such parish right but when you go look in the birth records of that parish he's not there like he's just not there and you check the previous year you check the year after he's still not there and so then you know you face this question of well do i just accept it maybe it got maybe it was forgotten by the pastor it didn't get recorded in the book or do i just put in of you know this place no you keep going not you you keep going you keep going and so what i ended up finding was that when he he was the oldest of seven children when he turned 13 years old he moved out now that sounds really weird to us in our society but in their society when you were 13 or 14 years old you might go work on like a neighbor's farm just to start you know working especially if there were too many mouths to feed at home so that is what he did and he actually ended up going to a neighboring parish and he lived and worked there he wasn't really that far from his mom and dad but he lived and worked there for three years and then when he moved home again you know the house was more empty and dad probably needed more help he went to the pastor in that other parish and the pastor wrote out a moving certificate and on that moving certificate he wrote his birthplace and that birthplace does not match all the other 16 records and so then and by the way that birthplace was 160 miles away and this was in he was born in 1814 so the family had moved 160 miles in 1814 and when i looked in those parish records there he was with his mom and dad oh wow and that was awesome that seems awesome um okay one one last question how has being involved in the genealogy um industry and your profession impacted how you record your life and your family's life um i think the main thing there is uh i just have a deep love and appreciate appreciation for the things in the living memory because you know when when an older generation a member of the older generation passes away that knowledge goes with them and to be able to pull out a photograph and sit down with somebody who knows who that individual is and have them say i mean this happened with my dad he had a picture from when he was like i don't know nine years old and he's wearing this cap from world war ii a sailor in the navy had this white cap and he's wearing the cap and he's standing with his arm around this other young man next to him and no one knew who this was and when i finally sat down had an opportunity with my dad to say hey who is that he told me he told me immediately and at that point i could add it to the tree i could upload the photo i tagged my dad i tagged that other gentleman and now everybody knows who he is and i just think that i think that i have just been working hard in finding as many documents and pictures and uploading them and then reaching out to my extended living family to try to find out you know who are these people and really capture that before that knowledge is gone yeah that sounds like a really worthwhile um thing to do okay jeff as we are wrapping up what would the final message uh what final message do you want to give our viewers as they are embarking on their sort of research journey give us some words of wisdom okay i'm just going to summarize this i can be anybody who knows me can vouch that i'm long-winded oh i'll keep this short wendy okay um so i think that my advice would just be to enjoy the journey and keep going like enjoy the journey rather than seeing what you're missing look at what you have and then whatever you have you try to build upon it we are we as human beings we are constantly trying to interpret the unknown based on what we know and so um and that often requires going back and looking at evidence more than once to try to see it with a different lens and then based on that try to find something else and then and and if you're still stumped reach out to somebody who has more experience than you do because there's tons of people who do i mean there's you can get that kind of assistance by people and there's wonderful self-help tools and we live in the most exciting time in the world's history to be doing genealogy and family history i mean it is unbelievable and i think the best is yet to come oh what a great message i appreciate you saying um think about what you have not what you haven't found yet and i think that that translates into more than just genealogy and so anyone who is interested in signing up for an online consultation that jeff showed there's links in in the chat but going to the wiki and typing in family history library and scrolling down and looking for the capital letters new we'll help you do that and then also you recommended um accessing the communities um by area or location and people will be there helping and follow along on facebook to find out when the library will be returning and the centers so wendy yes i just remembered something that uh you know ngs was recently they've recently had their live conference but the family history library put together some workshops as part of ngs yes when ngs decided to go virtual they moved the workshop date so it's in july on july it's the week of july 16th and uh there's still open spots where people can have either a one hour or a two hour workshop with one of the specialists from the library to just you know receive great instruction and problem solving and all kinds of things oh what a great great tip and there's also the ongoing family history library webinars where it's a presentation around a specific topic and those are fantastic resources as well so thank you jeff thank you for spending the afternoon with us and thank you everyone for joining we will be here wednesdays at four o'clock mountain daylight time and we'll see you next week thank you thank you wendy

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