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at silver hammer surveillance we are security and smart home specialists and we talk about both on the channel now i know there are channels dedicated to apple out there there are channels dedicated to google channels dedicated to amazon and then other smart home platforms and you know when we're talking about security and smart home i've been asked before by our customers i've been asked for people to watch the channel we've seen you talk about apple we've seen you talk about google specifically you've only talked about amazon or ring in passing when you're talking about the other two so why is that well today i address the elephant in the room let's find out what up everybody it's george langevier with silver hammer surveillance and today we are talking about amazon for smart home and we're talking about ring on the security side of things and what is my take on it again people ask me all the time why don't you ever talk about ring you actually have ring in your showroom when we come in why don't why don't you talk about it or if you do what do you have to say about it on the channel we've seen you talk about apple we've seen you talk about google we can tell you're an apple lover which i am but i do like google products and what about amazon what about ring so what is my take on that when it comes to ring and amazon i've got pros and i've got cons so let's get into that when you're talking about the pros let's talk with the pros let's talk about the positive first it goes all the way back to the beginning we have a we have a pretty complicated history with ring and amazon here at silverhammer but let's go back to the beginning now the gentleman that invented the ring video doorbell i applaud him i think it's awesome he was on shark tank they rejected him he said screw you i'm gonna make this device work he did make it work he started the video doorbell resolution which kind of changed the complete surveillance world i mean back in the day when i first started doing this only shady people had cameras on their house people were watching you if you had cameras the police that is they thought you were a drug dealer or whatever but man when he came out with that video doorbell with the ring and made it so mainstream and socially acceptable it changed everything it started to help law enforcement it branched into other cameras being acceptable people started getting cameras left and right but the video doorbells alone started the revolution i love that as a small business guy i think it's so cool that he said screw you to shark tank and and made it work and then as a small business guy i'm envious that he sold it to amazon for a billion dollars i mean i applaud him but what i also liked about him and one of the cool things about ring at the beginning was when he started helping law enforcement he really got into it he started the ring neighborhoods and as a crook catcher as a guy that's been catching criminals for over 20 years i thought that was cool because he really started to help they really started to you know help communities you know the next door app or neighborhood watches they were using those video doorbells and then eventually other ring products to solve primes left and right and that's awesome so for me you know what as silverhammer when we were selling surveillance cameras and we were starting to get in the smart home world when the video doorbell came out we jumped all over it so i thought that was really cool i applaud him i applaud what he stood for once he kind of got into it and and really kind of got excited about helping communities so that was a big positive for me is him and his philosophy and just making that work and and what he turned it into it's just a big success story so i like that a lot what are some of the other pros when you talk about amazon i think their their smart home platform is awesome there's just a ton of devices i mean neck and neck with google but i think amazon takes it as far as the device is compatible with alexa so you know and the way they make their products at least their displays and their speakers i think they're very well made i think their speakers sound awesome like i think their smart display the new echo show is is cool i mean they're just well made products a lot of cool features so in the smart home world i like that another big pro is innovation and i'm talking more about ring in this case than i am amazon amazon can be innovative and they've got a lot of cool features in their smart home side but on the ring side i got to give it to them for innovation i mean they started the video doorbell revolution and yeah you can't give amazon credit for that but we're talking about ring in general they've got a lot of cool concepts from their smart lighting they branch out a lot and i like that um you know smart lighting the spotlight they were kind of the first to do the spotlight um sirens on their cameras um the batteries the solar power version of their of their cameras awesome i mean there's a lot of times when we install cameras we're at the mercy of the house you know sometimes we can't run wires certain places we don't want to be like the cable company where you got cables all over the outside of your house sometimes that can be challenging when we're doing a wired camera system or even a wi-fi camera system that requires power ring was kind of the first to really bring the solar panel to the front the forefront and that was awesome i mean it was game changer so you could power cameras through solar power and yeah they've been doing that a long time with other cameras but for the mainstream ring ring really brought it to the mainstream and so i gotta applaud them for that but the way they dabble i mean they're they're flying camera that flies through your house i mean whatever you think about it privacy wise or whatever the concept is just cool and the fact that they're thinking outside the box i gotta hand it to them for innovation i mean they're always trying to innovate even now that amazon's taking over yeah they've you know an inventor kind of gave birth to it all but amazon's still trying and i appreciate that so because you gotta innovate i mean in the world of technology you've got to just keep coming with new stuff and you can't let it get stale i mean technology is always changing so i got to appreciate that i think their features in general are awesome i mean like i said you got a spotlight you've got sirens you've got an actual alarm system you've got cameras you've got smart lighting all that combined in the smart home they've got smart bulbs now all the things that you can think of smart home related or smart security related they've got it covered and whether you you know you can control it all with your amazon echoes and echo shows and they all work together so whether it's amazon or ring it's just kind of like google and nest but all work together great so keep innovating ring keep innovating amazon keep it coming now with matter in the smart home world check out our video on matter with all these different platforms combining all the devices that are possible to use with everything the above using your echo with google devices or your echo with apple devices or vice versa is great matter is going to be a game changer and i can't wait to see what amazon and ring does with that i mean again their innovation is second to none and keep it coming so the pros with amazon and ring i mean are kind of similar you've got one of the rich or the richest man in the world starting amazon you've got a guy that made a billion dollars off the sale of ring to amazon that invented ring huge american success stories you can't fault that i love that as pros our founder of ring i love where he was going i love that he's trying to help the community that's awesome that he kept coming with products trying to help law enforcement i think their relationship with law enforcement has kind of gone a little south but still that's not his fault he meant well and you know his heart was in the right place and as a small business guy that catches crooks i appreciate that so that's a huge pro and then again innovation awesome absolutely else so that being said let's talk about the cons and let's talk about that elephant in the room why i don't necessarily talk about ring in my showroom why i don't make videos on ring or amazon amazon's a little different than ring but let's talk about that all right so number one quality of products i i think amazon does a much better job with this than than ring even though they're kind of the same company but amazon i love their smart home products like the echo devices i think they're really well made i think the features are awesome i think you know high quality the speakers you know when you're talking music or you're talking sound they sound great they've got a nice build to them i mean the new echo show is really cool um but then on the flip side amazon does things you know like they're tablets i thought their tablets felt cheap i thought their operating system felt cheap the fire stick stuff like that i just it's kind of like from one into the spectrum of the other i don't get that so you've got these awesome echo devices but then you've got these cheap i mean i know they're trying to make it cost effective and i appreciate that you got to have options for every budget so i think that's really cool but the quality is almost like too cheap sometimes where on the flip side you've got these echo devices that you can't believe you're only paying a certain amount for them they seem like they should make me more money so i don't get that but one of my problems is the quality and then that goes in the ring unfortunately i just think ring is very cheaply made and and that is my biggest gripe we've got like the nest iq yeah it doesn't exist anymore but that was just a really well made camera even the little logitech circle view the well-made camera ring a lot of times is just cheap plastic going back several years you know when the video doorbell revolution i kind of talked about how they started it was a smart home guy and as a security guy i was really excited when that video doorbell came out and at first we didn't have another option to offer so i was excited and i started offering ring and i got to tell you probably about 40 of the time out of the box those doorbells did not work at the beginning i think they've improved but man guys still got weather issues we've got customers all the time or people calling us all the time asking us to replace the ring video doorbell with something better because it didn't survive in nebraska winter but going back to the beginning like i said as a small business guy i can't put my stamp on things that don't work very well and that that video doorbell made me look like a fool about 40 of the time and again they did start to improve it as far as out of the box but still their quality after the fact just doesn't compare to like a nest video doorbell or some of the others out there the arlo video doorbells it's just not the same quality and so with ring that's my my biggest gripe yes great budget friendly options better than nothing but the quality i mean look at this camera here i could you know it shakes in the breeze you know if the wind blew i feel like if i sneeze too hard it would fall apart a thief could crush this with their hand i mean every time i show a customer this device in my showroom this little piece falls off you know i just i just can't put my stamp on that kind of thing so when somebody comes in here it's just hard for me to sell it i mean some people are just huge amazon fans and huge ring fans and they just want that night i find myself talking about of it just because as a small business guy yes they want this item and i don't want to give them something they don't want but as a small business guy i can't put my stamp on it because if it fails it becomes my problem and so with ring it becomes my problem a lot and i just don't like that it's it's cool that we've got a variety of options to install this goes back to the features the solar panel you know sometimes we can't run wires ring gives us a great option but man and then that stuff fails especially here in nebraska when you talk about weather or vandals or whatever it is i mean they're just so easily destroyed or or fails because the weather whatever it is i just can't put my stamp on it and that's a problem so quality is big for me i mean the thought is there i understand why they do it for the budget they've got to have that budget-friendly option but come on there's other options out there that seem to be able to do it just for a little bit more or sometimes even less but better quality so ring you mean well but i can't i can't put my stamp on your quality so that's that's con number one no it's like it's it's crazy like i understand when amazon bought ring you know why why those devices come out they're just not a little bitter made and i keep giving them a try i think that they're going to improve and they don't so i don't know if they just need to have two lines like a ring junior or whatever it is one's for affordable ones a little more high quality i don't know what it is but quality is number one okay con number two is features if you look at my last video on home security or some of my other videos when you buy a surveillance camera and then this with features we're talking about rings specifically amazon their smart home devices loaded with features i can't complain there they're awesome um but when we're talking about ring i'm talking about security cameras and securing your home or your business and forget about it i mean i think ring tries to market to some businesses especially with their security system but i i'm just not i'm just not there now on the home front you know features they're cameras you know they they don't believe in the facial recognition and i understand why they've got a good reason for it but other cameras out there one of the huge features of a surveillance camera or smart camera especially is facial recognition watch my last video where i talk about burglar alarms versus security cameras and and why i think cameras are better than burglar alarms and a lot of it's because of facial recognition and having alerts before somebody gets in your home now rings got pretty specific and sophisticated motion alerts but they don't do that facial recognition so it kind of lacks you know there are certain times when people install a ring video doorbell if they've got a bush by their front door and that thing blows in the breeze you're getting alerts all day long my problem with it is you start to ignore those alerts because you think it's the bush blowing and then somebody steals your package or whatever and you realize it and you and you work you couldn't have caught it live you could have scared them away with the two-way audio but you didn't even look because you thought something else was setting it off a passing car your dog your cat whatever it is i mean i think they're just lacking in in that kind of features and specifically the facial recognition i think they kind of need to i think they're being a little stubborn about that i think they need to get over it and and just kind of start offering that stuff because some of some of the things are great but some of the things are great are also kind of lacking in actual execution so let's say the spotlight for example ring's got a spotlight camera those spotlights are great but the lighting you know compared to an actual you know electrical fixture you'd go buy at home depot or lowe's it's just not even the same thing i think on the commercial or whatever they just make that light look like it lights up your whole yard it's a pretty weak light also those cameras are just so easily destroyed when a thief sees that light they can just go hit that thing with a broom and destroy that camera so i don't you know the the idea is there if the thought is there it's a wonderful thing to have a camera integrated with a light i mean that's beautiful innovation but the execution is just kind of lacking and that's that's my problem as a small business guy i just don't want the stuff i'm selling to look cheap and that light just kind of makes it look cheap same thing with their two-way audio you know they've got speakers which two-way audio on a camera can be huge i've talked about this before you can scare people away when you see them and if you get the proper alert that's where facial recognition come in you get an alert that there's a person in your yard they don't belong there talk through the two-way audio and scare them away well ring you kind of gotta be right up on the camera and yeah you i mean it's decent but it's not what it should be it's a b there's other cameras that blow it away and uh not for much more sometimes less money so again the the thought is there and and they really kind of started again with the video doorbell the two-way audio thing two-way audio is huge because you make people think you're home when you're not uh you can scare people away so the thought is there the innovation is there but the execution that's kind of where they fail so again i'm always on the front with ring agent i think they mean well i think they always have what the execution is just kind of lacking and again as a small business guy i put my reputation on the stuff that i offer and ring just can make me look bad sometimes and that's my issue so features is a problem no facial recognition what they do have execution is kind of poor sorry all right moving on to my last con my last con and this is the big one is privacy now i know everybody worries about privacy with smart devices and trust me i'm one of them i'm a smart home king i've got all this stuff myself uh obviously you're going to worry about privacy now when you're talking about all these smart devices obviously the big dogs are apple google amazon and i gotta say that apple has gone a little psycho with it in a good way they've been bitten the butt enough times that they kind of figured it out and now they just go crazy with it to the point where they're kind of pissing off people like facebook and all that stuff but they're really kind of listening to their customers that they just want privacy first and foremost and that's great they've kind of got the message that is bleeding over into homekit which is their smart home platform and homekit secure video which is their security camera platform so the privacy is really kind of going hardcore and it's for the customer's advantage and i love that google same thing they kind of got a lot of uh crap about certain things they did you know when their security system came out it had a built-in microphone in it for the google assistant and they didn't tell anybody until all of a sudden the feature was live now they claim they weren't using that microphone until that feature went live and i i do believe them but they they caught a lot of slack for that and i don't blame people for being upset but they took stuff like that and now with google just like apple you can pretty much opt in to any privacy thing you want i mean they just give you a list of all the things they're doing you opt in or out now is it really easy to find that sometimes no but they do give you that option but unlike amazon which a lot of things you're already opted in whether you know it or not they don't opt you in unless you select it to be opted in with google and definitely with apple so the privacy thing with those two has kind of gotten a lot better with amazon i'm just not seeing the improvement they say they're working on it but i'm sure my ring display which is to my right i'm sure they're watching and listening to me right now i'm just convinced of it amazon's new service amazon sidewalk is a perfect example of this brilliant idea you know everybody's got mesh routers nowadays where these routers form a huge mesh wi-fi network in your home and really helps your wi-fi service well they're kind of doing that with their amazon devices called amazon sidewalk where other amazon devices with your neighbors will form a network and it really helps strengthen the network in your amazon devices which is great the innovation is fantastic but one of the problems is it's automatically enabled in your settings and you got to go in there and turn that off well what if you don't want to share you know with your neighbors what if you don't want to have a network with your neighbors what if you don't like your neighbor i just think they should have that off and then you go in and turn it on and that's one of those things with privacy and again it just kind of goes back and wraps this whole thing up innovation but the execution it's just kind of i don't want to say shady but it's just not it's just not there so that's kind of in a nutshell my take on amazon and ring so for the people that ask me why i don't really include it it's because i just don't have enough pros to overtake the cons and as a small business guy i got to consider that because i got to offer what i really believe in and what i would put my stamp on and what i think people will you know the quality that's going to last people and not come back on me and make me look bad so there you go those are my pros those are my cons in a nutshell so tell me what you think what are your thoughts are you an amazon person a google person an apple person or another smart home platform i mean i'm just an enthusiast on all the above and i want i mean well for ring i mean well for amazon i want matter i hope it just brings it all together and we live in a one big happy smart world and and privacy gets to where it should be and everything's cool and when everything gets convenient and everything gets secure i can't wait for it all to happen but in the meantime you know i gotta just put my stamp on when i put my stamp on so hopefully this kind of solves the riddle as to why you don't hear me talking about ringing amazon and hopefully i get there hopefully something changes and i'll become a huge believer but anyway hopefully you like this video come back for more tech talk security talk i tell some crazy shoplifter stories from back in my loss prevention days check out what loss prevention is if you don't know how it all makes sense with smart home and security it brought me to the dance just watch one of my videos it'll make more sense um but again smash that like button subscribe to the channel we'll be back for more next week until then peace and love [Music] you

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Published: Thu Jul 08 2021